Second Brain Workflows (Obsidian vs Craft for PKM)

Brandon Boswell
10 Jan 202329:57

Summary

TLDR在这段对话中,两位朋友Josh Madeski和Brandon Boswell探讨了他们如何使用各自的“第二大脑”系统来管理个人知识。Josh是Craft的用户,而Brandon使用Obsidian。他们讨论了个人知识管理的不同工作流程,如何开始使用这些系统,以及第二大脑与PKM系统之间的区别。他们分享了对于系统化和完美主义的看法,以及如何通过简化流程来提高效率和创造力。此外,他们还讨论了如何捕捉和组织信息,以及如何通过日常笔记和周/月回顾来进行反思和进步。

Takeaways

  • 🧠 个人知识管理(PKM)和第二大脑系统是帮助人们管理和组织个人知识的有效工具。
  • 🤖 使用第二大脑和PKM系统可以克服完美主义障碍,通过不完美的方式记录信息,从而提高效率。
  • 📝 通过简化的笔记和系统,可以更好地专注于核心任务,而不是花费时间在工具上。
  • 🚀 第二大脑系统的最终目标是产生创造性输出,如YouTube视频、博客文章等。
  • 🔄 创意过程是循环的,一个想法可以通过不同的媒介转化为多种形式的内容。
  • 📚 随着时间的推移,即使是简短的笔记也能积累成有价值的知识体系。
  • 🧩 使用像Obsidian和Craft这样的笔记应用可以帮助人们在日常生活中捕捉和组织信息。
  • 🔗 双向链接功能可以帮助人们在笔记之间建立联系,形成一个知识网络。
  • 🗂️ 通过PARA方法(项目、区域、资源、归档)来组织笔记和信息可以提高工作效率。
  • 📅 定期回顾和反思笔记内容对于个人成长和知识积累至关重要。
  • 💡 个人知识管理系统的选择应基于个人需求和偏好,没有一成不变的规则。

Q & A

  • 什么是第二大脑(second brain)?

    -第二大脑是一种个人知识管理系统,它帮助用户捕捉、组织和回顾日常生活中的信息和想法。这个概念由Thiago Forte提出,旨在通过非程序化的方法,让用户能够更好地管理个人知识,提高创造力和生产力。

  • 个人知识管理(PKM)系统和第二大脑有何不同?

    -个人知识管理(PKM)系统是一种更广泛的概念,它涵盖了个人收集、整理、分享和使用知识的各种方法和工具。而第二大脑是PKM的一种具体实现,特别强调了非程序化和接受不完美的原则,以及通过链接和网络化的方式来组织信息。

  • Josh Madeski和Brandon Boswell在个人知识管理方面使用了哪些工具?

    -Josh Madeski使用了Craft作为他的笔记应用,而Brandon Boswell则使用Obsidian作为他的个人知识管理工具。他们都利用了这些工具的双向链接功能来构建自己的第二大脑。

  • 为什么说接受不完美对于第二大脑的工作流程很重要?

    -接受不完美可以让个人知识管理系统更加灵活和易于使用。它鼓励用户快速捕捉想法和信息,而不是花费过多时间在追求完美格式或组织结构上。这样可以减少启动障碍,提高效率,并允许用户随着时间的推移逐渐完善和扩展他们的系统。

  • 在个人知识管理中,如何避免陷入完美主义的陷阱?

    -避免完美主义的陷阱可以通过以下几个方法:首先,从粗糙的起点开始,不要担心一开始就做得完美;其次,专注于核心内容而非形式,将注意力集中在笔记和完成任务上;最后,定期回顾和反思,通过实践和迭代来改进系统。

  • 第二大脑系统如何帮助提高创造力?

    -第二大脑系统通过提供一个灵活且易于访问的知识库,帮助用户捕捉和连接不同的想法。这种连接可以促进创新思维,因为用户可以轻松地回顾和整合过去的思考,从而产生新的见解和创意。此外,系统的非程序化特性也鼓励用户接受不完美,从而减少因追求完美而导致的拖延。

  • Brandon Boswell为什么选择Obsidian作为他的个人知识管理工具?

    -Brandon Boswell选择Obsidian是因为他看重长期日记记录的实践,并且希望拥有对自己数据的完全控制权。Obsidian允许他拥有文件的所有权,并且文件格式是标准的,这意味着他可以将数据迁移到任何其他系统。此外,Obsidian支持Markdown格式,并且提供了数据视图(Dataview)插件,这使得他能够以编程方式改进工作流程。

  • Josh Madeski的个人知识管理流程是怎样的?

    -Josh Madeski的个人知识管理流程开始于每日笔记,他会记录当天的计划和完成的任务。他还使用项目、区域、资源和档案(PARA方法)来组织信息。他会将信息捕捉到笔记应用中,然后在Finder和Google Drive中以PARA方法组织文件夹。此外,他还强调了从信息中提取和整理出自己的观点的重要性。

  • 在个人知识管理系统中,如何进行周回顾和月回顾?

    -Brandon Boswell进行周回顾的方法是查看过去一周创建的所有新文件,并评估哪些内容需要进一步审查或已经审查过。他还做年度回顾,通过查看每周的亮点来编制一年的成功和高点。Josh Madeski则通过在Obsidian中查看去年同一天的笔记来进行日常回顾,以此来观察自己的进步和变化。

  • 如何使用Obsidian的Dataview插件来改进工作流程?

    -Dataview插件允许用户在Obsidian中创建自定义的查询和视图,从而以编程方式展示和组织笔记。例如,可以创建一个视图来显示过去一周创建的所有新文件,或者显示所有标记为“需要审查”的文件。这有助于用户更有效地管理和回顾他们的个人知识库。

Outlines

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🤝 与好友Josh探讨第二大脑和个人知识管理

在这段对话中,作者与好友Josh Madeski讨论了他们如何使用各自的第二大脑,以及他们不同的工作流程。Josh是Craft的用户,而作者使用Obsidian。他们探讨了个人知识管理(PKM)的入门经历,以及第二大脑与PKM系统之间的区别。作者提到,尽管有系统试图提供一些结构化的建议,但最终每个人都是从零开始,需要找到适合自己的系统。他们讨论了如何捕捉日常工作和个人生活中的有趣信息,以及如何通过不完美的方式将信息输入系统以获得更多好处。

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📝 Josh的第二大脑和PKM系统

Josh分享了他是如何通过日记开始接触第二大脑的。他最初使用Stoic应用进行日记写作,但随着时间的推移,他开始寻找更适合自己的日记方式,并最终发现了Obsidian。他通过Obsidian和Readwise的结合,开始构建自己的第二大脑和PKM系统,这帮助他将日记中的主题转化为原则和思想。Josh还讨论了他如何使用PARA方法(项目、区域、资源和档案)来组织他的笔记,并分享了他如何通过这种方式捕捉和存储信息。

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📱 作者的笔记应用和工作流程

作者介绍了他使用的笔记应用Craft.do,并解释了为什么选择这个应用。他强调了应用的美观性和与iOS设备的同步功能,以及双向链接的重要性。作者展示了他的文件夹结构,包括项目、区域、资源和档案,并解释了他如何使用数字和表情符号来保持组织。他还讨论了他的日常工作流程,包括如何通过每日笔记开始一天,并如何将Google Drive和其他存储解决方案整合到他的系统中。

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🔍 深入探讨PKM和第二大脑

在这一段中,作者和Josh深入探讨了PKM和第二大脑的概念,以及它们如何帮助他们专注于重要的项目和目标。他们讨论了PARA方法如何帮助他们管理项目和资源,并如何使用档案来存储已完成的项目。作者还提到了他如何使用Obsidian的ARC方法来管理在线资源,并如何通过上下文来进一步组织他的笔记。他们讨论了如何通过这些系统来提高创造力和产出。

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📅 笔记和日记的回顾与反思

作者分享了他如何通过Obsidian进行日常笔记和日记写作,以及他如何使用这些笔记进行回顾和反思。他提到了他在每日笔记中包含的内容,例如感激之事、每日亮点和成功的定义。作者还讨论了他如何通过将过去的笔记与当前的笔记进行对比来观察个人成长。此外,他还提到了他如何进行周回顾,以及如何通过这些回顾来设定目标、记录成就和学习经验。

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🌟 总结与未来展望

在视频的最后部分,作者和Josh总结了他们的第二大脑和PKM系统的使用经验,并分享了他们对未来的展望。Josh提到了他的YouTube频道和他在Dorsada的工作,而作者则谈到了他在Obsidian中的设置和他对Vim仿真功能的兴趣。他们都表达了对这个话题的热爱,并鼓励观众订阅他们的频道以获取更多相关内容。

Mindmap

Keywords

💡第二大脑

第二大脑是指个人知识管理系统,用于存储、组织和回顾个人的想法、笔记和信息。在视频中,两位主角讨论了他们如何使用第二大脑来管理自己的工作流程和个人知识。

💡个人知识管理(PKM)

个人知识管理(Personal Knowledge Management)是一种方法,通过收集、整理和分享个人的知识资源来提高个人效率和创造力。在视频中,两位主角讨论了他们如何通过PKM系统来提高自己的工作效率和创造力。

💡工作流

工作流是指完成特定任务或一系列任务的预定步骤或过程。在视频中,两位主角比较了他们各自的工作流程,探讨了如何通过第二大脑和PKM系统来优化这些流程。

💡Obsidian

Obsidian是一款知识管理和笔记软件,它允许用户以Markdown格式创建和链接笔记,形成一个个人知识库。在视频中,Brandon提到他使用Obsidian作为他的第二大脑和PKM工具。

💡Craft

Craft是一款设计精美的笔记和任务管理应用程序,支持Markdown和双向链接,适用于iOS设备。在视频中,Josh提到他使用Craft作为他的第二大脑工具。

💡PARA方法

PARA方法是一种组织笔记和信息的框架,代表项目(Projects)、区域(Areas)、资源(Resources)和档案(Archives)。在视频中,Josh和Brandon都提到了他们如何使用PARA方法来管理他们的个人知识。

💡知识共享

知识共享是指将个人的知识、见解和信息与他人分享的过程。在视频中,两位主角讨论了通过创建内容(如YouTube视频、博客文章)来分享他们的知识和经验。

💡创意产出

创意产出是指通过创新和创造性思维产生的成果,如艺术作品、文学作品或新的想法。在视频中,两位主角讨论了他们的第二大脑和PKM系统如何帮助他们提高创意产出。

💡完美主义

完美主义是指追求完美的性格特征,有时会导致过度关注细节而阻碍进展。在视频中,两位主角讨论了如何克服完美主义,通过接受不完美来提高效率和创造力。

💡增量学习

增量学习是一种学习方法,通过逐步添加信息和技能来构建知识,而不是一次性掌握全部内容。在视频中,两位主角讨论了他们如何通过增量学习来管理他们的个人知识,并逐渐构建他们的理解和创意。

Highlights

两位知识工作者分享了他们如何使用第二大脑和个人知识管理系统(PKM)来优化工作流程。

Josh Madeski 使用 Craft 应用程序作为他的第二大脑工具,而对话者则使用 Obsidian。

个人知识管理的入门是个人决策,需要找到适合自己的系统。

第二大脑系统的创始人 Thiago Forte 提倡接受系统的不完美性,让信息以不完美的方式输入,以获得更多益处。

第二大脑和 PKM 系统帮助人们克服完美主义,从粗糙的起点开始,逐步提升质量。

创造性输出是第二大脑系统的最终结果,不仅仅是为了制作完美的笔记。

创作过程是循环的,可以从一条推文发展到博客文章,再到 YouTube 视频和书籍。

随着年龄的增长,人们学会了更多地接受生活的混乱,这使得生活变得更容易。

通过使用第二大脑和 PKM 系统,人们可以避免从头开始,而是在现有的基础上建立。

个人知识管理的关键在于能够捕捉和组织信息,然后将其转化为创造性输出。

Josh Madeski 通过使用 Stoic 应用程序和 iPad Pro 开始了他的第二大脑之旅。

Obsidian 和第二大脑的概念帮助人们将日记中的主题转化为思想和原则的网络。

在个人发展领域,有许多方法和工具可以帮助人们管理知识和提高生产力。

Thiago Forte 的第二大脑课程帮助 Josh Madeski 走出创作低谷,进入个人知识管理领域。

个人知识管理系统应该是开放的,允许人们管理与工作相关的所有个人知识和资源。

使用第二大脑和 PKM 系统可以让人们更容易地回顾和反思过去的工作和成就。

Brandon Boswell 和 Josh Madeski 分享了他们如何使用不同的工具和方法来捕捉、组织和表达创意。

Transcripts

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I recently got an opportunity to sit

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down with my good friend Josh madeski to

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look at how we each use our second

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brains it was a really interesting

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conversation and we compared our

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different workflows with him being a

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craft user and me using obsidian we talk

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about how we each got into personal

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Knowledge Management and is there a

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difference between a second brain and a

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PKM system I hope you enjoy the

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conversation go check out Josh's Channel

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I'll have a link down in the description

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and with that out of the way let's jump

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into the conversation with software

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engineer Josh madeski we have about 40

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minutes to talk so we'll we'll just go

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back and forth and I'm not overly

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programmatic in my second brain workflow

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I'm using some apps that work well for

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me and so I thought it'd be useful to

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where that setup is and how it works for

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me and my mental model through the day

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and how I'm capturing

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all the interesting stuff that comes in

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through my work day and even my personal

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stuff and the YouTube life and break it

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down and I want to see your system as

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well yeah and I think the interesting

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thing with all of this is everyone kind

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of starts from scratch there's

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definitely some systems that try to

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apply some opinionation but what I found

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is it's a very personal decision and you

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have to climb what works for you and I

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think similarly to what you were saying

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about being overly programmatic what I

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found is if I try to be too programmatic

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it actually becomes a barrier and it

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keeps me from doing what I need to get

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done and so I've definitely tried to

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strip it down and build the simplest

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thing I can that has me focus on my

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notes and getting things done instead of

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playing around with my tool

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yeah and Thiago Forte the guy who came

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up with the second brain system he very

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much Embraces like the imperfectionism

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of the system he's just let it be

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imperfect let it be messy because it's

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meant for internal use meaning you as an

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individual

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you can put as much information in as

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you want and in fact

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I would argue the more you learn to put

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into your system in an imperfect way the

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more benefit you get out of it and so it

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is incremental like you're not going to

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be able to just go everything that ever

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comes through my life is going to go

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into the system but over time you'll be

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pretty surprised how powerful

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a random email with some unexpected new

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project that comes into your life you're

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like oh I know exactly where to put it I

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know exactly how to organize this just

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to The Sweet Spot where I get it get the

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work done and can recall all the

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important informations about the project

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without like spending

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hours every week trying to keep it all

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in the right place yeah I mean that that

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perfectionism has always been a barrier

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for me I remember being in school and to

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be given a writing prompt and to just

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spend way too much time trying to figure

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out what the broader story was and that

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just became this barrier to actually

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getting started if I was given an hour

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and a half to do the writing prompt I'd

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spend 45 minutes trying to figure out

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what it is and not only have half the

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time to actually write it and I think

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where the second brain system and the

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PKM systems have really helped me is

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just start with some rough really awful

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outline some really awful starting point

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and you'll be really surprised how much

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quality you actually get out of that

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it's more of just a mental thing more

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than it actually being tangible it's

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just the mindset that you come at it

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from

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at least that's what's worked yeah

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totally and I think the end result at in

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the second brain system the end result

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is creative output yeah and it's

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creative output isn't

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good meticulous notes that you can

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reference later a good creative process

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is we're both YouTubers so creating

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YouTube videos and giving our unique

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perspective to others by sharing those

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videos blog posts or even as small I've

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learned that this creative process is

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very cyclical and so it can look like a

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tweet that turns into a blog post that

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turns into a YouTube video that turns

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into a YouTube series it turns into a

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book it's like you're right your

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creative ideas will Compound on top of

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each other and so it really only matters

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that you start

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sharing your experience and knowledge

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back out with the world and then over

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time let that thing grow don't just

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think oh I'm going to write a book in

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five years so let me do everything I can

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to make this perfect note-taking system

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so that in five years I have a book no

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every blog post every YouTube video

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every conversation you have with a human

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is your stepping stone toward that

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bigger goal so that that has helped me

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like disassemble that perfectionistic

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quality that I also had dealt with in

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younger years I feel like just getting

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older I've learned to embrace the chaos

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of life a little bit more which makes

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life a little bit more easy

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yeah that's where I'm at I I have the

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fortune of being very brief and succinct

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naturally not necessarily that I like

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communicate everything I meant to

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communicate but I just I write very

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briefly so like this idea of writing a

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book is so intimidating to me but the

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idea of writing zettels or figuring out

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your principles has been really nice

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because I can write these one or two

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sentence statements and then build upon

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them over time and then I realize oh

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there actually is a lot more there it's

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just incremental time with the idea you

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don't have to get all the way there in

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that first setting which has been really

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eye-opening for me I think in embracing

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PKM and not building from scratch each

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time I think that's been one of the

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really key things for me is I think

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previously because I didn't have a great

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place to put this to dump my brain out

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on a table or a digital workspace

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every time I started from scratch on an

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idea and now I can pick up where I left

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off and I go wow there's actually a lot

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more here than I thought or it's really

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amazing when you can come back to an

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idea and go I don't remember this at all

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but I really like what I put here and

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now I can build upon it further so how

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long have you been doing this second

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brain thing in Normal

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decision yeah so sure yeah we should

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probably Define yeah like the formal

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piece here because my introduction to

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second brain I think is a little

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different and a little unique I actually

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came to the second brain through

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journaling so like February of 2021 I

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got an iPad Pro because I thought it

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would be helpful in Focus thinking turns

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out it's not but what it did give me is

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like a different perspective in how I

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interact with computers and exploring

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all those apps there and it got me into

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this focused mindset where I would

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journal and so I started using this app

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called stoic and I started journaling

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against these prompts and I am not a

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journaler like that is not like in my

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historical character at all but I

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started journaling daily

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and eventually after about a month or

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two I had figured out what I really

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wanted to journal about and I'd start to

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get annoyed when the stoic prompts would

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get too far away from what I had decided

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I now want to journal about I came into

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journaling not knowing what to journal

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about systemic was amazing for that and

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then after a few months I figured out

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what I wanted to get out of it and so

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when I started getting out of stoic I

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had to figure out where I wanted to keep

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my journal entries and so I started

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exploring everything there and then I

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came across obsidian and that's when I

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think PKM and second brain really

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started to become a thing I could see

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these ideas together I could pluck out

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the themes from my journals and start to

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get this web of ideas and eventually

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into principles and thoughts and then

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yeah so that's how I got into second

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brain

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I started layering in read wise and

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pulling out my highlights and I think

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around that time is when I first started

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to interact with thiago's work I guess

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it's probably worth talking about like

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where do we draw the line between a

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second brain and PKM and like what is

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that Venn diagram in our terminology so

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I guess when you say second brain do you

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mean specifically Tiago or do you mean

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personal Knowledge Management and like

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how do those interact yeah I'm about a

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decade into this personal development

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world like I remember Life Hacker and

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what's his name there's all sorts of

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development productivity people that I

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followed over the years so I've always

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been interested in this topic but I

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think about two years ago I was like I

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use Evernote but I don't use it very

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well and it's just a fallen to the

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Wayside and my I was in a creative rut

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and so I went a different path I

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actually found thiago's course and I was

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I'm a graduate of the building a second

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brain cohort I believe I was in cohort

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11 I think and so what are they up to

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nowadays because they're on like 13 or

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14. so okay it's about once or twice a

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year yeah and so I'm about a year and a

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half into this process so I'm more of a

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formal graduate and proponent of using

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his system the way he designed it it did

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bring me into PKM and I would say for

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now especially between me and you having

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this conversation those things are

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probably pretty interchangeable in that

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just having a system in place where you

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can manage all of your personal

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knowledge and

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collect any and all resources and

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information tied to the work that you do

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so it is a pretty open-ended thing but

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as we talk more about our systems you'll

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see like mine is very prescriptive to

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his methodology because I have found

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that structure

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has helped has worked for me like it's

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creating boundaries and structure in the

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way that he's already suggested doing it

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is great this is going to work for me

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I'll just lean into this and do it this

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way but I would say for now the things

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that that I want to think about and

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things I want to start talking about is

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just like

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how are you capturing information so for

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those that don't know there's this

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workflow for capturing your information

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organizing information distilling it

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down and then expressing it and so code

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is the acronym he's come up with and so

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basically

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I think for the next few minutes we're

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just going to dive into this and

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show what our system looks like yeah

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yeah you want to go first you want me to

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go first yeah let's do it at least for

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me everything starts with a note-taking

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app yep and I have craft.do this is the

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note taking app I use it is

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definitely not the most popular but it

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is very pretty as you will see it's just

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very aesthetically appealing and it

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syncs with all of my iOS devices

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and those are the big proponents for me

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and they also have bi-directional links

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which I know obsidian does something

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similar this is my second brain projects

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areas resources and archives is the para

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method you'll see resources is empty

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because I'm just still experimenting

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with how

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my note taking would have resources

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we'll see the para method actually gets

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repeated so if we go to my finder and we

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go to iCloud we see projects areas

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resources archives I've decided to put a

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number in front of them so that they're

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always sorted in this order and then

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I've added these little emojis we can

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match here so just a nice little touch

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that works for me and and this thing

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gets applied everywhere so

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just as an example I'm just going to

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throw these things out dscript is a

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video editing software and so in the

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drive the way you organize videos in

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this software also projects areas

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resources archives same emojis same

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numbered format and so for me it's just

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like anywhere that I have to store

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information I have those four folders

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set up

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I can tell you right now my general

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workflow is

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start with the daily note

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I almost always start with the daily

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notes so here's today I'm going to say

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record

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video with

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Brandon and then I can say

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second brain Deep dive

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so this is something that I'm going to

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do and I'm going to check it off it's

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today and if I go into this I have

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the first time me and you met I have

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notes on when that happened this is

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technically a project so today's there's

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a project called second brain Deep dive

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with you and so I had we had a Google

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Drive Link

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speaking of Google Drive if we were to

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go back into my system

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you'll see here as well how do I get to

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folders all right here we go so I don't

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go I don't do this all the time but when

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I do need to reach for Google Drive

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iwp para so here's para projects areas

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resources archives I did deal with

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someday maybe at some point I've dropped

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that decision I'm sticking just straight

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to Pera and then inbox

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we didn't talk about this much yet but

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there are you have to capture the

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information first and so in my

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note-taking app I'm going to always

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capture things on The Daily note

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in fact I can just say I can say Hey

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Siri today

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and it goes to the today note

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so I'm just always that's my go-to I

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always start there and then in my finder

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it's going to be the downloads folder

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and then in Google Drive I have to

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create

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an inbox folder because I just I need a

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place to start and so yeah that's my

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rough overview of the different things

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that I'm using to capture and store

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information and then the way that I'm

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organizing it is everything's para and

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so far that's working really well for me

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nice yeah I think a lot of similarity I

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think more technical differences on my

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side but largely the same so here's my

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desktop I think tactically similar I use

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obsidian this is MySpace and then for

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the most part what I do is I just have

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my folders here on the left I've got my

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calendar here on the right but as you'll

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see what I was showing a second ago most

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of the time it lives like this it's just

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in Focus mode and I would argue that the

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file storage side of things is not very

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important in obsidian or any sort of

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like graph Knowledge Management System

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like how they're organized I would say

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for most people is not incredibly

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important I do have a folder structure

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because I publish parts of my second

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brain and I need to keep track of what

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is public and what is not public because

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in order to push me to try to share more

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of what I'm thinking I'm naturally very

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like wordish that's just my natural

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personality is I'm careful of what I put

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out there so the the second brain has

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really helped me to get my ideas out

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there and become more sharing in that I

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do use Pera to a certain extent I use a

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modified version of para because I find

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that areas and resources have a rough

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blend and I find that the distinction

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between the two gets really subtle at

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least for me so I thought it was really

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interesting that you had areas that had

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something and resources that didn't

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because that's also the natural thing I

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find myself doing but where I get value

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out of para while we're on Pera is I

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think the key value thing that I get

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from Pera is enumerating what my active

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projects are and especially from a PKM

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perspective drawing Focus to those

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things because you can spend hours in

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your PKM system just gardening and I

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think gardening is really cool and I

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think people should Garden

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but I will spend way too much time

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gardening so I need a focus uh what are

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we trying to hone what are we trying to

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refine what are we hoping to actually

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deliver to the outside world because

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although I like refining my own thoughts

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I think it's often much more valuable to

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get it out there to the rest of the

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world because they'll tell me everywhere

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I'm wrong and it'll actually improve my

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thinking instead of this Echo chamber

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with myself and so I use projects for

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that and I use the archive to put those

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away when I'm done with them and areas

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again I think is a little loose inside

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of PKM because largely I think your

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folder structure should be flat and so I

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think it's more of a tag if anything but

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I don't get a lot of value out of an

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area tag for me personally but where I

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do get a lot of value out of Pera is in

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Arc so I use ARC as my browser and I use

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a modified version of para here and

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that's been really helpful for me

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because most of collecting my resources

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is not really done on a traditional file

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system anymore having a folder with all

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my assets is not the biggest thing

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because most of my assets are online and

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so this is where I don't think this is

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how Thiago intended it to be used but I

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think it's a really great use of Pera is

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enumerating my projects putting all of

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my resources associated with that

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project in one place put your document

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in there if you have some collective

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document that you're writing and then

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retire it to the archive when you're

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done and then I do this

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I had one more layer here which is

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contexts I think para benefits from

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context of this is my personal context

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this is my work context and this is my

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YouTube context and I do most of my para

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in obsidian for YouTube but having them

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separated in that way so that my work

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projects are together my home projects

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are together and resources and archives

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together

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so as far as actual daily notes and

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things like that similar to you so I

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have a keyboard shortcut inside of

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obsidian that will pull up my daily note

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I can also pull it from this right hand

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sidebar and just click and get to it

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from here but more often than not I will

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just hit command shift d and that'll

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bring me to my daily note along the

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lines of what you had and then I have a

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prompt here to help me get started and

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so this is the simplified version of

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where my journaling has gone is starting

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with three things I'm grateful for one

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highlight for today what would we call

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today a success if achieved and then any

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notes along the way of what happened and

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then I have this today was good because

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but I've largely retired that in

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exchange for just integrating that into

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my what am I grateful for the next day

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once upon a time I tried to do this

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where I started with what I'm grateful

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for at the beginning of the day I set my

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highlight and then at the end of the day

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I reflected but it became too much of a

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commitment time wise and I've since

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rolled it in into the next day because I

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know I can start my day right every day

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but finding time to actually like close

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it out I think has become a barrier and

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so again similarly to what you said

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I'll integrate what I'm doing in the day

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throughout that daily note so my daily

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highlight was this interview with you so

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I actually keep people inside of here

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too and then here so I guess let's put I

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think it's yeah second grade interview

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with Josh that would be the notes from

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today's call and so if I by that I can

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put that and aside and these were all of

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my notes like prior to us talking and

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then I'll link you and then we'll get

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all those ideas and then if I wanted to

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I could graph this all out that's

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actually the graph for everything let's

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just graph this so this will be all of

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the like ideas that I touched on in my

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notes preparing for this session cool

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that's my system I'm curious right now

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just as a thought how often have you

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found doing the note taking in your not

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note taking doing the journaling in the

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note taking app

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is that creating a useful like timeline

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so when you do like audits or review

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your life or review your work or we

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haven't talked much about like monthly

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reviews or weekly reviews or anything

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like that but are you finding value in

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doing that or is it just a useful place

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to plop information it's huge huge I

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think I mentioned this in one of the

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videos I did where I got the bullet

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Journal so I'm on paper for a lot of

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what you're doing in obsidian for me

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it's less quantitative and more

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qualitative and so where it's been

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really useful for me is in reflection

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and being detached from the moment and

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being able to look at my notes in a

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different context and with a fresh

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perspective yeah and so this isn't a

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great example of it because I was

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traveling last year on today so I didn't

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actually do my note but what has been

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really useful is just in my template for

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my daily note it actually inter

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interleaves my same note from last year

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and so it's been really cool to see

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where where I was a year ago and to go

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oh wow I've actually progressed in a lot

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of ways that aren't really obvious in

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real time it's such a slow thing but

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when you're you're detached from it it's

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big the other piece and I don't

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necessarily have a great way to show

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this today because it gets a little way

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too personal on the weekly side of

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things but I do a weekly reflection okay

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I dropped monthly reflection just

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because monthly I think was too

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challenging for me so I do daily weekly

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and annually and annually is huge like

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annually is amazing just compiling all

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the successes and highs that you forget

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about so quickly and I use it as these

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daily notes see the weekly notes and

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then the weekly notes see the annual

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Note so I don't go through all my daily

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notes to generate my annual review I

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just go through the weekly highlights

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yeah and here let's just I don't think

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there's anything in this one yet so I

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can at least show the template

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so my goal for this week is I wanted to

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prep and have this great discussion with

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you and then at the end of the week so I

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set a goal at the beginning of the week

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sometimes a couple of goals but usually

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not more than maybe two they're just two

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tactically achievable things that I'd

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like to get done at by the end of the

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week and I find that if I set them at

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the beginning of the week I'm much more

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likely to get them done by the end of

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the week because like me and myself

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committed to this

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and then if I don't achieve it it's

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because I got lazy so if you do it at a

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regular time for me it's like Sunday

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mornings it's basically setting an

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intention and if I set an intention then

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I'll figure out how to do it if I don't

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send intention then who knows what's

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going to happen with the week yeah and

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so at the end of the week I compile my

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accomplishments and learnings my highs

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my lows and a reflection of what should

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I change

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and then I have last week last year at

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the bottom so I have another question

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with obsidian

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you you can attach images and have some

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imagery but with it being marked down

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it's not going to render those images by

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default no numbers it could you show me

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an example because that's one thing that

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I'm like I'm such a visual person so I'm

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going to take a screenshot of us right

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now okay and I'm gonna paste it in here

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Okay cool so you can show images in line

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yep that's fantastic and it's all stored

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so I've got it set where it puts the

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images in a folder in the folder that

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you're in okay and so I guess that gets

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back to the like why I really obsidian

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is when I was committing to obsidian I

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was committing to long-term journaling

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like I was basically committing to I

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want this to be a practice that I

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maintain and so a big part of that is

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how do I find a system that I can use

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indefinitely and where I have like

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control over that and so the last thing

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I want is one is the cost of what if I

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found a tool I really loved and they

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just ratchet up the price and what is

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the the value is still there but I don't

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like having lack of control over the

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overall cost so this is something that

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was really appetizing about obsidian is

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I own the files I own the format it's a

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standard format and I could move it to

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any other system in the future so

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actually a lot of these notes if I were

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to rewind back to early 2021 stoic also

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output markdown notes so like those

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early 2021 notes where aren't even

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written in obsidian but I can consume

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them in obsidian just fine cool and so I

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put this in the cloud just so that it's

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safe and backed up

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and can be accessed from different

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devices and then it's available wherever

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I want to go and if I decide I want to

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change tools then I can change tools

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totally

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yeah I've been thinking I could switch

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to obsidian but it's a it's better that

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you stick with one system as best you

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can and so far this tool has worked very

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well for me and so I'm like man I don't

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think it's a smart idea to switch it's

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very cool seeing your setup and seeing

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how far obsidians come it's the last

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time I looked at it was like

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a couple years ago a year ago and so

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it's come a long way since then yeah

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it's definitely gotten a lot prettier I

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remember like they just added this new

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minimal theme as the default but it was

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actually very similar to what I was

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running before but I had spent a ton of

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time making obsidian this minimalist

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thing that is enjoyable to live in and

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then they've now made it standard which

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for me is annoying because I spent a lot

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of time getting to it but I love that

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people who are starting it today can

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start from a much better starting point

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than right people who were here a couple

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years ago

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as a developer have you thought to put

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any time in like making a plug-in or

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extending obsidian's feature set

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um actually you can do a lot with

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dataview and so like data if you that's

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probably a good segue for that's a

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powerful way to programmatically improve

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your workflow yeah so like we were

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talking about weekly reflection I think

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another key part of my weekly reflection

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is reviewing my notes from the past week

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so

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I don't use an inbox but I use a handful

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of things that kind of function

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similarly to an inbox so everything that

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comes in from read wise gets tagged with

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needs review and so at any point I could

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look at all the things all the backlog

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that needs a review but the key thing I

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do is I have this file called new files

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and it's in my dashboards and this will

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pull up all of the files that were

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created in the last week so if I'm doing

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this week I think I have it doing nine

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days in case I do my review like a day

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late or something like that so this will

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pull up everything I've created in the

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last week and then on Sunday mornings

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when I go through this I will just click

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through all these it used to actually be

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a little bit easier I used to just could

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hold alt and click all of them and they

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would all go out as tabs and then I just

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run through each now it's a little bit

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trickier and then I think I have to hit

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command alt and then click

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let's see will it yeah command alt and

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click and then command alt click and

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eventually you'll end up with all this

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but I think it's just is it just command

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yeah okay so you have to command and

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then switch and then command and then

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switch and then command and then switch

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which

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it used to be a little bit easier

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because I just hit command and click but

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this is still just fine and so I've

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already reviewed this one but it would

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have a status that comes in with

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reviewed or needs review and then as I

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write about it so if I read this

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highlight I'll write about it and then

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I'll have a little blurb and this will

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be like a little zettel and then it

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keeps the reference back to the original

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Source document but that's separate so

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like in here I have all of my sources

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all of my stuff coming in from read wise

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in the sources folder so this is like

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every highlight I've ever highlighted

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from read wise and those are separate

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from my own opinions oh nice all those

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topics and so I can tell is this my are

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these my thoughts and my Pros on this or

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is this just something I'm pulling from

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someone else

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that's smart

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all right I forgot where it's going okay

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yeah so new files so this is how I this

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is my primary form of review and where I

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start building up my own opinions on all

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these things so I highlight it in one

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context it comes in to obsidian and then

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at some point later when I'm detached

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from that feeling I had when I

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highlighted it I then consume it figure

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out does it still resonate does it

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resonate differently and then write up

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my opinions on it and that will build

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sort of my own settle cost in my own

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principles tree and that's what will

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lead to those inner those packets and

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then also ultimately lead to me writing

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about things or doing videos creating

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some content that I share with the world

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we're almost out of time but I

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definitely dive into this so much more I

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know 40 minutes is not enough time but

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very cool thanks for giving us an

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overview of what it looks like yeah it

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makes me want to switch especially since

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I'm a big Vim guy and I know there's a

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Vim emulation in obsidian like man that

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would be be reason enough for me to

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switch

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is really nice I stopped using it

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because I mostly just stopped using them

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I went unfortunately I guess more the

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emacs mindset but if you already know

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them and you love them the mode is

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wonderful inside of obsidian okay so are

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there any other like final thoughts that

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you want to share right now in this time

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um we should do another video

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I could talk all day with you about this

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stuff yeah I guess the key piece is for

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those of you who don't know me my name

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is Brandon Boswell I like Josh mentioned

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I'm formerly an engineer I I now Focus

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predominantly on user experience but

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programming is still very near and dear

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to my heart during the day I lead user

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experience at dorsada where we build

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software that helps doctors deliver more

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healthy babies and then at night I have

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a YouTube channel where I focus on

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productivity tips and tricks for

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knowledge workers so anyone who thinks

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for a living

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that's fine yeah cool and I'm Josh

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madeski I am a full stack engineer at a

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startup in Austin called nutility we are

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automating Utility payments for

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consumers and property managers which is

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I like taking

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boring things and making them disappear

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so that's a bit of what I do in my day

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job and I'm also a YouTuber and I talk a

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lot about my Vim

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inal based setups for developers and I

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do some second brain stuff and I do some

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Mac OS productivity type things as well

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and so yeah that's a bit about me

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awesome it's been a pleasure thank you

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so much for watching do hit subscribe if

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you haven't already and if you enjoyed

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the video give it a like and you'd

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probably also be interested in my in

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depth of city and Vault walkthrough I'll

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have that linked over here on the side

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thank you again for watching and as

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always I'll see you in the next video

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