Admission Secrets Colleges Don't Want You to Know

SupertutorTV
10 Jan 202011:14

Summary

TLDRThe video discusses strategies colleges may use to improve rankings and admissions rates, including guaranteed transfer programs, large waitlists, and emphasizing transfer student programs. It also mentions using test scores as a proxy for family wealth. The speaker aims to make students aware of these potential college admissions 'games' when applying.

Takeaways

  • 😊 大学录取程序就像一个游戏,大学也在竞争申请
  • 😮 通过保证转学计划来增加排名和申请率
  • 🤔 通过大量的候补名单录取来提高录取率
  • 😃 转学计划为非主流学生创造了机会
  • 😕 通过转学计划来提高排名
  • 🧐 通过测试分数来判断家庭财富
  • 😢 测试分数有时候被用来作为财富的代理
  • 😠 一些学校利用候补名单来增加收入
  • 😥 一些学校利用不合理的方法来提高排名
  • 🙂 了解这些内幕可以帮助学生更好地应对过程

Q & A

  • What are some strategies colleges use related to admission rates and rankings?

    -The video discusses guaranteed transfer programs, large waitlists, and expanded transfer programs as ways colleges try to manage admission rates and rankings.

  • How do guaranteed transfer programs allow colleges to improve statistics?

    -By deferring some admitted students, colleges don't have to count them in the initial freshman admission rate statistics.

  • What is the dual purpose of expanded transfer programs?

    -They provide opportunities for non-traditional students but also allow padding of admission rate statistics.

  • How can large waitlists help colleges?

    -Students who are admitted from waitlists are more likely to attend, helping a college's yield rate statistic.

  • What is an example of using test scores to identify wealthier applicants?

    -Applicants with higher test scores but lower GPAs may come from more affluent backgrounds.

  • Why do colleges care about rankings and admission statistics?

    -Higher rankings attract more applicants and top faculty, impacting a college's resources and reputation.

  • What disclaimer does the video provide about its analysis?

    -The analysis is based on observations, not interviews, and other motivations may also be factors.

  • What resources does the presenter offer for test prep?

    -Online courses, books, mailing list, and social media pages related to SAT and ACT prep.

  • What does the presenter encourage viewers to do?

    -Share their own experiences with college admissions tricks and tactics.

  • Who is the target audience for this video?

    -Students in the college application process and their parents.

Outlines

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📚 大学录取过程的秘密

本视频由Brooke主讲,她拥有超过十年的SAT和ACT备考指导经验,并分享了一些大学录取办公室可能不希望你知道的关于录取过程的秘密。她解释了大学录取过程像一场游戏,不仅是学生试图加入系统,大学也在争取更高的排名和声誉。大学排名,如US News和Forbes发布的,对大学的申请量、声誉、吸引师资力量及其生存发展能力有重大影响。Brooke还提到了她通过SuperTutorTV.com提供的在线课程,以及专门为ACT数学部分准备的书籍,旨在帮助学生充分准备考试。

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🎓 录取策略及其背后的逻辑

Brooke讨论了大学使用的一些录取策略,如保证转学计划、大量等候名单录取和大规模转学项目,这些策略有助于大学在保持或提高排名的同时,管理录取率和新生班级的统计数据。例如,通过保证转学计划,大学可以在不影响新生录取率的情况下接纳学生。等候名单的使用可以提高学生接受录取邀请的可能性,从而提高大学的录取收益率。大规模的转学计划可以为非传统学生提供机会,同时帮助大学维持对新生录取的严格控制。此外,她还提到了大学如何使用标准化考试成绩作为财富的代理指标,通过选择高分低GPA的学生来确保有足够的学生能够支付学费,这是为了保持财政稳定。

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🤔 大学游戏规则的影响

在这一部分,Brooke分享了关于大学录取过程可能存在的一些不那么光彩的策略,强调了大学为了维持或提高排名、确保财务稳定而采取的各种措施可能对学生产生的影响。她指出,尽管这些策略可能有助于大学在竞争激烈的高等教育市场中保持竞争力,但它们也可能对学生造成不公平的影响,特别是那些期望能够直接被录取为新生的学生。最后,Brooke鼓励观众分享他们可能遇到的任何类似经验,并提供了她的网络平台和书籍资源,以帮助学生更好地准备大学申请过程。

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Keywords

💡college admissions process

The college admissions process refers to the procedures and policies that colleges and universities use to select which students to admit. This is a central theme of the video, as the host shares insider perspectives on how admissions offices make strategic decisions to meet enrollment targets and rankings goals. For example, guaranteed transfer programs allow colleges to pad their freshman admission statistics.

💡guaranteed transfer programs

Guaranteed transfer programs allow students who were not initially admitted as freshmen to be guaranteed admission in the future after completing coursework at another institution. The video explains how these programs benefit colleges by allowing them to protect and inflate admission rates and rankings.

Highlights

大学录取过程像是一个游戏,学校需要通过各种策略来提高自己的排名和声誉。

有保证转学计划可以帮助学校填满课堂,同时不会立即影响他们的录取数据。

使用考试成绩来判断家庭财富状况,以确保学校的财政收入。

Transcripts

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how do you just finished applying to

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college are you applying to college soon

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and wondering more about the college

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admissions process if so in this video

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I'm going to share with you some secrets

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that college admissions offices may not

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want you to know about the admissions

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process now college admissions like it

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or not is something of a game right it's

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not only a game for the students who are

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trying to game the system and get into

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it but it's also a game for the colleges

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because colleges have to compete for

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business ie applications in the

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marketplace there are rankings that come

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out and publications like US News and

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World Report is the most famous Forbes

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there are other lists the world's top

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100 colleges there are these other lists

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that are out there that ranked schools

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and these rankings really impact how

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many applicants a college gets how much

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prestige that college has its ability to

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attract the faculty and just overall its

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ability to thrive and survive as a

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university if that ranking drops or if

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it rises that really can affect a

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school's overall kind of situation so if

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colleges need to protect that ranking

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and in order to do so they sometimes

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create particular strategies and I'm

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going to talk about some of what I think

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those strategies are today if you're

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College Admissions

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so the first caveat that I'm going to

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say is that I have not necessarily

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interviewed actual colleges for why they

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do what they do but I see a correlation

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between these kind of behaviors and some

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surprising behaviors that have arisen as

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I've been working with students through

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this college process that I've come to

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know of through the personal experiences

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and my students and it seems to me that

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some of the motive is is colleges trying

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to play the game that does not mean that

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that is what motivated completely every

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college to do all of these things I am

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just saying what I see and then what the

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outcome is but I also think if it caught

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up their press office they're not gonna

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just say oh yes we're trying to protect

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our rank like that's not the response

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I'm gonna get from colleges right so I'm

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gonna point out some of these

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correlations to you guys I will say it

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with a grain of salt because there could

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be other motivations that I don't know

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about that are making colleges want to

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do these kind of things but let's get

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into it number one guaranteed transfer

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programs so what are guaranteed transfer

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programs and why might colleges be

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invoking them I mean when you apply a

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college do you think there's probably

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two outcomes right you either get accept

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it or you get rejected haha just kidding

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you can also get kind of admitted for

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something called a guaranteed transfer

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program well what it is is you get a

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letter from a college instead of getting

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an acceptance letter you get this letter

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that says we really liked you but we

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don't have room in our freshman classes

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fall but we have room for you either the

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second semester of freshman year or we

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have room for you sophomore year if you

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go to some other college you get a

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certain GPA at that other college hey we

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will guarantee that we will let you

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interaction you can come on down and

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we'll have you and that'll be all fine

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and dandy right why would a college do

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this why wouldn't a college just let you

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win I mean some people might say oh well

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they want you to prove your grades

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because they really liked you but you

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just hadn't proved your grades like that

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might be the explanation that a college

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gives you but I have students that I

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know and I've seen their transcripts and

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I know what kind of grades they had and

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they had pretty good grades and they

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still are kind of shoved into these kind

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of programs well what is it you if you

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guarantee a transfer to a student that

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admission doesn't count in your freshman

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admin rate right so if you're trying to

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pad yourself for the rankings and you're

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trying to rank higher on US News and

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World Report wouldn't it look better if

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say you were USC and your admin rate

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would say 12 something percent or 11

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percent or something like that wouldn't

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it look better if that were your admin

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rate instead of say nineteen percent

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when it used to be like several years

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ago because then it'd be easier to climb

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the ranks because you look more

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exclusive and who doesn't want to look

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more exclusive when it comes to being in

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college so what this does is it helps

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schools fill their classrooms it helps

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schools graduate lots of students but

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without having to take them right away

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so that they can kind of pad their

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statistics it also helps them protect

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things like what the GPA of kids who get

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in is what the test scores are kids who

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get in is because they can just take the

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kids who are at the top and then the

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kids who they actually like and want to

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admit that might be slightly lower well

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they can still let them in but they can

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shovel them in in this other program and

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so they get them in but then they don't

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reflect that at all in any of their US

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News and World Report's reported

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freshmen admitted class statistics right

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number two and many huge numbers from

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the waitlist so another tactic that I

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see some schools using and it's not all

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schools but I see some schools doing is

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that they admit huge numbers of students

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for the waitlist if you admit kids off a

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waitlist where you make them wait to see

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where they've gotten in everywhere else

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before they then write you a letter of

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continued interest right to say hey I

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still want to go to your school hey I

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still want to be considered for your

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waitlist hey still let me it the kids

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you admit off the waitlist

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are already not accepted to all these

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other schools so you're probably the

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best thing they've got going or they

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wouldn't have written that letter and so

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the chances that that kid who was

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wait-listed is gonna go to your school

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if they write that letter and say hey I

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really still want to go here are a lot

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higher then if you just given an offer

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of admission to everybody in that

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waitlist pool right so that protects

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your yield it protects how many students

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decide to attend that have been accepted

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and so that's another statistic that

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goes into your rankings and things like

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that

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another thing that a waitlist does is it

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protects your admin rate right if you

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don't actually admit students and you

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just put a bunch of them on a waitlist

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you don't have to include that in your

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admin rate right

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number three another way that schools

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can kind of leverage themselves in this

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process is creating these large transfer

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programs now there's like a dual

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competing stories here on the transfer

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end one story which is usually the most

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popular story and the one that all the

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you know press people from every

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university are telling is the story that

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transfer programs help create

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opportunity for non-traditional students

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and for students who may come from less

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affluent backgrounds which is true

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because community college is a heck of a

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lot cheaper than almost every four-year

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university in the country so if you go

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to Community College for two years and

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then you transfer into a four-year

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university you're gonna save a ton of

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money so it's an option that a lot of

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students who want to save money do and

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you know what I am actually very

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thankful that there are large transfer

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programs out there I'm super thankful

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for it because I think there are a lot

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of students who when they're playing the

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game and they try to play this like test

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score game they're not SAT AC T people

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and that doesn't mean you're not smart

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or that you don't have awesome skills or

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that you shouldn't go to college right

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that's one kind of metric it's one way

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of thinking and this is creates a

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different pathway and that's really cool

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but what we find is that you look at a

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school like USC and you see their

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regular admin rate is is pretty small

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right and then you look at their

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transfer admin rate and it's more than

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double their regular admin rate so you

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can also see how again schools can kind

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of pad they're elitist kind of

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exclusivity with their freshman adamant

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rate by pushing a lot of the students

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into a transfer situation and that can

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help them look better right number four

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this is more of just something that's

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sad and this is using test scores as a

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proxy for wealth so again one of the

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other things that I mentioned at the

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beginning this video is not only your

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school's playing the game to try to get

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their rankings up they're also playing a

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game to try to protect how much money

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they have coming in my understanding of

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this is actually based off of reading

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articles I read an article about an

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interview with a former admissions

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person from Trinity College which is

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liberal arts college on the East Coast

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this is something that might affect

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schools that maybe are not necessarily

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as highly ranked as like your Harvard's

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are

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birds or things like that but that are

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looking to try to bring in enough money

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to make sure that the college budget was

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balanced right some schools are neat

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blind some schools are neat aware some

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schools say they meet a hundred percent

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of demonstrated need of the kids who are

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getting in but that doesn't mean that

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all these schools that are having these

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wonderful programs where they're trying

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to help everyone and and and pay for

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everyone's way as much as possible they

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have the resources easily to do so so

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one way that schools try to make sure

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that they can cover all their bills is

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by admitting students who they think

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probably have a little bit more money

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and can pay their own way one way that

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sometimes schools identify that is by

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using test scores as a proxy for wealth

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now it's true if you have high test

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scores and high grades and those

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correlate together you know you may be

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wealthy you may not be wealthy and maybe

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depend on what kind of high school you

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went to and how good of an education you

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got there

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but when you have these schools who have

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discrepant test scores who have these

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higher test scores and lower GPAs those

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circumstances tend to indicate wealth

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more often and some colleges use those

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kind of discrepant applicants and as a

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pool of when they get to sort of the

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last kids they're letting in to scoop

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into their sort of admin tile to ensure

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that they have enough kids who can pay

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their own way there you go it's a dirty

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trick that some colleges might play for

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better or for worse to try to play the

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game and play the system unfortunately

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you know we all have multiple pressures

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on us colleges have to pay their bills

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right they've got to play the rankings

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game because that's part of what you're

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buying into when you apply to these

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schools anyway and it's not always

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pretty and the motivations are not

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always pure and the policies sometimes

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can I think sideswipes some students

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because you didn't expect them to be

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coming your way but hopefully at least

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this gives you guys some insights onto

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some ways that the system works so that

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you're just at least a little bit more

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aware of what might happen to you or how

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you might be able to navigate the system

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and in any case I wish you guys the best

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of luck with your applications if you

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are applying do you know of any secret

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tricks that colleges have played on you

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do you have any circumstances like they

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guaranteed

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program that have happened to you but

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maybe you're there a little do it

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different and you want to talk about

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