Admission Secrets Colleges Don't Want You to Know
Summary
TLDRThe video discusses strategies colleges may use to improve rankings and admissions rates, including guaranteed transfer programs, large waitlists, and emphasizing transfer student programs. It also mentions using test scores as a proxy for family wealth. The speaker aims to make students aware of these potential college admissions 'games' when applying.
Takeaways
- 😊 大学录取程序就像一个游戏,大学也在竞争申请
- 😮 通过保证转学计划来增加排名和申请率
- 🤔 通过大量的候补名单录取来提高录取率
- 😃 转学计划为非主流学生创造了机会
- 😕 通过转学计划来提高排名
- 🧐 通过测试分数来判断家庭财富
- 😢 测试分数有时候被用来作为财富的代理
- 😠 一些学校利用候补名单来增加收入
- 😥 一些学校利用不合理的方法来提高排名
- 🙂 了解这些内幕可以帮助学生更好地应对过程
Q & A
What are some strategies colleges use related to admission rates and rankings?
-The video discusses guaranteed transfer programs, large waitlists, and expanded transfer programs as ways colleges try to manage admission rates and rankings.
How do guaranteed transfer programs allow colleges to improve statistics?
-By deferring some admitted students, colleges don't have to count them in the initial freshman admission rate statistics.
What is the dual purpose of expanded transfer programs?
-They provide opportunities for non-traditional students but also allow padding of admission rate statistics.
How can large waitlists help colleges?
-Students who are admitted from waitlists are more likely to attend, helping a college's yield rate statistic.
What is an example of using test scores to identify wealthier applicants?
-Applicants with higher test scores but lower GPAs may come from more affluent backgrounds.
Why do colleges care about rankings and admission statistics?
-Higher rankings attract more applicants and top faculty, impacting a college's resources and reputation.
What disclaimer does the video provide about its analysis?
-The analysis is based on observations, not interviews, and other motivations may also be factors.
What resources does the presenter offer for test prep?
-Online courses, books, mailing list, and social media pages related to SAT and ACT prep.
What does the presenter encourage viewers to do?
-Share their own experiences with college admissions tricks and tactics.
Who is the target audience for this video?
-Students in the college application process and their parents.
Outlines
📚 大学录取过程的秘密
本视频由Brooke主讲,她拥有超过十年的SAT和ACT备考指导经验,并分享了一些大学录取办公室可能不希望你知道的关于录取过程的秘密。她解释了大学录取过程像一场游戏,不仅是学生试图加入系统,大学也在争取更高的排名和声誉。大学排名,如US News和Forbes发布的,对大学的申请量、声誉、吸引师资力量及其生存发展能力有重大影响。Brooke还提到了她通过SuperTutorTV.com提供的在线课程,以及专门为ACT数学部分准备的书籍,旨在帮助学生充分准备考试。
🎓 录取策略及其背后的逻辑
Brooke讨论了大学使用的一些录取策略,如保证转学计划、大量等候名单录取和大规模转学项目,这些策略有助于大学在保持或提高排名的同时,管理录取率和新生班级的统计数据。例如,通过保证转学计划,大学可以在不影响新生录取率的情况下接纳学生。等候名单的使用可以提高学生接受录取邀请的可能性,从而提高大学的录取收益率。大规模的转学计划可以为非传统学生提供机会,同时帮助大学维持对新生录取的严格控制。此外,她还提到了大学如何使用标准化考试成绩作为财富的代理指标,通过选择高分低GPA的学生来确保有足够的学生能够支付学费,这是为了保持财政稳定。
🤔 大学游戏规则的影响
在这一部分,Brooke分享了关于大学录取过程可能存在的一些不那么光彩的策略,强调了大学为了维持或提高排名、确保财务稳定而采取的各种措施可能对学生产生的影响。她指出,尽管这些策略可能有助于大学在竞争激烈的高等教育市场中保持竞争力,但它们也可能对学生造成不公平的影响,特别是那些期望能够直接被录取为新生的学生。最后,Brooke鼓励观众分享他们可能遇到的任何类似经验,并提供了她的网络平台和书籍资源,以帮助学生更好地准备大学申请过程。
Mindmap
Keywords
💡college admissions process
💡guaranteed transfer programs
Highlights
大学录取过程像是一个游戏,学校需要通过各种策略来提高自己的排名和声誉。
有保证转学计划可以帮助学校填满课堂,同时不会立即影响他们的录取数据。
使用考试成绩来判断家庭财富状况,以确保学校的财政收入。
Transcripts
how do you just finished applying to
college are you applying to college soon
and wondering more about the college
admissions process if so in this video
I'm going to share with you some secrets
that college admissions offices may not
want you to know about the admissions
process now college admissions like it
or not is something of a game right it's
not only a game for the students who are
trying to game the system and get into
it but it's also a game for the colleges
because colleges have to compete for
business ie applications in the
marketplace there are rankings that come
out and publications like US News and
World Report is the most famous Forbes
there are other lists the world's top
100 colleges there are these other lists
that are out there that ranked schools
and these rankings really impact how
many applicants a college gets how much
prestige that college has its ability to
attract the faculty and just overall its
ability to thrive and survive as a
university if that ranking drops or if
it rises that really can affect a
school's overall kind of situation so if
colleges need to protect that ranking
and in order to do so they sometimes
create particular strategies and I'm
going to talk about some of what I think
those strategies are today if you're
wondering who I am my name's Brooke I've
been coaching SAT and a CT prep for over
a decade and a half
I've squirted perfectly on both these
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College Admissions
so the first caveat that I'm going to
say is that I have not necessarily
interviewed actual colleges for why they
do what they do but I see a correlation
between these kind of behaviors and some
surprising behaviors that have arisen as
I've been working with students through
this college process that I've come to
know of through the personal experiences
and my students and it seems to me that
some of the motive is is colleges trying
to play the game that does not mean that
that is what motivated completely every
college to do all of these things I am
just saying what I see and then what the
outcome is but I also think if it caught
up their press office they're not gonna
just say oh yes we're trying to protect
our rank like that's not the response
I'm gonna get from colleges right so I'm
gonna point out some of these
correlations to you guys I will say it
with a grain of salt because there could
be other motivations that I don't know
about that are making colleges want to
do these kind of things but let's get
into it number one guaranteed transfer
programs so what are guaranteed transfer
programs and why might colleges be
invoking them I mean when you apply a
college do you think there's probably
two outcomes right you either get accept
it or you get rejected haha just kidding
you can also get kind of admitted for
something called a guaranteed transfer
program well what it is is you get a
letter from a college instead of getting
an acceptance letter you get this letter
that says we really liked you but we
don't have room in our freshman classes
fall but we have room for you either the
second semester of freshman year or we
have room for you sophomore year if you
go to some other college you get a
certain GPA at that other college hey we
will guarantee that we will let you
interaction you can come on down and
we'll have you and that'll be all fine
and dandy right why would a college do
this why wouldn't a college just let you
win I mean some people might say oh well
they want you to prove your grades
because they really liked you but you
just hadn't proved your grades like that
might be the explanation that a college
gives you but I have students that I
know and I've seen their transcripts and
I know what kind of grades they had and
they had pretty good grades and they
still are kind of shoved into these kind
of programs well what is it you if you
guarantee a transfer to a student that
admission doesn't count in your freshman
admin rate right so if you're trying to
pad yourself for the rankings and you're
trying to rank higher on US News and
World Report wouldn't it look better if
say you were USC and your admin rate
would say 12 something percent or 11
percent or something like that wouldn't
it look better if that were your admin
rate instead of say nineteen percent
when it used to be like several years
ago because then it'd be easier to climb
the ranks because you look more
exclusive and who doesn't want to look
more exclusive when it comes to being in
college so what this does is it helps
schools fill their classrooms it helps
schools graduate lots of students but
without having to take them right away
so that they can kind of pad their
statistics it also helps them protect
things like what the GPA of kids who get
in is what the test scores are kids who
get in is because they can just take the
kids who are at the top and then the
kids who they actually like and want to
admit that might be slightly lower well
they can still let them in but they can
shovel them in in this other program and
so they get them in but then they don't
reflect that at all in any of their US
News and World Report's reported
freshmen admitted class statistics right
number two and many huge numbers from
the waitlist so another tactic that I
see some schools using and it's not all
schools but I see some schools doing is
that they admit huge numbers of students
for the waitlist if you admit kids off a
waitlist where you make them wait to see
where they've gotten in everywhere else
before they then write you a letter of
continued interest right to say hey I
still want to go to your school hey I
still want to be considered for your
waitlist hey still let me it the kids
you admit off the waitlist
are already not accepted to all these
other schools so you're probably the
best thing they've got going or they
wouldn't have written that letter and so
the chances that that kid who was
wait-listed is gonna go to your school
if they write that letter and say hey I
really still want to go here are a lot
higher then if you just given an offer
of admission to everybody in that
waitlist pool right so that protects
your yield it protects how many students
decide to attend that have been accepted
and so that's another statistic that
goes into your rankings and things like
that
another thing that a waitlist does is it
protects your admin rate right if you
don't actually admit students and you
just put a bunch of them on a waitlist
you don't have to include that in your
admin rate right
number three another way that schools
can kind of leverage themselves in this
process is creating these large transfer
programs now there's like a dual
competing stories here on the transfer
end one story which is usually the most
popular story and the one that all the
you know press people from every
university are telling is the story that
transfer programs help create
opportunity for non-traditional students
and for students who may come from less
affluent backgrounds which is true
because community college is a heck of a
lot cheaper than almost every four-year
university in the country so if you go
to Community College for two years and
then you transfer into a four-year
university you're gonna save a ton of
money so it's an option that a lot of
students who want to save money do and
you know what I am actually very
thankful that there are large transfer
programs out there I'm super thankful
for it because I think there are a lot
of students who when they're playing the
game and they try to play this like test
score game they're not SAT AC T people
and that doesn't mean you're not smart
or that you don't have awesome skills or
that you shouldn't go to college right
that's one kind of metric it's one way
of thinking and this is creates a
different pathway and that's really cool
but what we find is that you look at a
school like USC and you see their
regular admin rate is is pretty small
right and then you look at their
transfer admin rate and it's more than
double their regular admin rate so you
can also see how again schools can kind
of pad they're elitist kind of
exclusivity with their freshman adamant
rate by pushing a lot of the students
into a transfer situation and that can
help them look better right number four
this is more of just something that's
sad and this is using test scores as a
proxy for wealth so again one of the
other things that I mentioned at the
beginning this video is not only your
school's playing the game to try to get
their rankings up they're also playing a
game to try to protect how much money
they have coming in my understanding of
this is actually based off of reading
articles I read an article about an
interview with a former admissions
person from Trinity College which is
liberal arts college on the East Coast
this is something that might affect
schools that maybe are not necessarily
as highly ranked as like your Harvard's
are
birds or things like that but that are
looking to try to bring in enough money
to make sure that the college budget was
balanced right some schools are neat
blind some schools are neat aware some
schools say they meet a hundred percent
of demonstrated need of the kids who are
getting in but that doesn't mean that
all these schools that are having these
wonderful programs where they're trying
to help everyone and and and pay for
everyone's way as much as possible they
have the resources easily to do so so
one way that schools try to make sure
that they can cover all their bills is
by admitting students who they think
probably have a little bit more money
and can pay their own way one way that
sometimes schools identify that is by
using test scores as a proxy for wealth
now it's true if you have high test
scores and high grades and those
correlate together you know you may be
wealthy you may not be wealthy and maybe
depend on what kind of high school you
went to and how good of an education you
got there
but when you have these schools who have
discrepant test scores who have these
higher test scores and lower GPAs those
circumstances tend to indicate wealth
more often and some colleges use those
kind of discrepant applicants and as a
pool of when they get to sort of the
last kids they're letting in to scoop
into their sort of admin tile to ensure
that they have enough kids who can pay
their own way there you go it's a dirty
trick that some colleges might play for
better or for worse to try to play the
game and play the system unfortunately
you know we all have multiple pressures
on us colleges have to pay their bills
right they've got to play the rankings
game because that's part of what you're
buying into when you apply to these
schools anyway and it's not always
pretty and the motivations are not
always pure and the policies sometimes
can I think sideswipes some students
because you didn't expect them to be
coming your way but hopefully at least
this gives you guys some insights onto
some ways that the system works so that
you're just at least a little bit more
aware of what might happen to you or how
you might be able to navigate the system
and in any case I wish you guys the best
of luck with your applications if you
are applying do you know of any secret
tricks that colleges have played on you
do you have any circumstances like they
guaranteed
program that have happened to you but
maybe you're there a little do it
different and you want to talk about
those feel free to post a comment below
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