Live Demo of a Mergers and Acquisition Case Interview (Part 11 of 12) | caseinterview

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23 Apr 201146:39

Summary

TLDR在这段视频中,讨论了并购(M&A)的策略和分析框架。首先介绍了并购适配框架,用于评估目标公司是否适合被收购。通过分析客户、产品、公司和竞争四个关键领域,可以判断两家公司合并后的潜在价值。视频中通过一个虚构的广告公司Omega and Omega的案例,展示了如何应用这个框架。该公司面临销售停滞的问题,通过分析发现,尽管整体广告行业增长5%,但数字广告领域却以30%的年增长率快速增长。Omega and Omega擅长传统媒体广告,而市场正向数字广告转移。因此,建议Omega and Omega考虑通过并购来获取数字广告领域的能力和市场份额,特别是考虑收购在这一领域增长迅速且市场份额大的公司。视频还讨论了并购中的文化适配问题,以及如何通过组织结构调整来最小化潜在的文化冲突。

Takeaways

  • 📈 **增长策略**:企业在考虑并购时,不仅要考虑是否值得收购,还要考虑特定目标是否合适,这涉及到对目标公司的全面分析。
  • 🤝 **互补性资产**:并购中常见的互补性资产情况是,一家拥有强大品牌和产品的年轻公司与一家拥有强大销售力量但产品不佳的老牌公司结合。
  • 💰 **成本协同**:通过合并可以削减重叠的内部成本,如两个公司都有人力资源部门,合并后只需保留一个,从而节省成本。
  • 📊 **市场和行业分析**:分析公司的盈利情况时,需要查看收入和成本,并考虑市场整体趋势,判断问题是公司特有的还是整个行业普遍存在的。
  • 🔍 **客户和产品分析**:了解客户群体和产品类型对于确定并购是否适合至关重要,需要分析不同客户群体的需求和市场对不同产品的接受度。
  • 🚀 **市场变化应对**:面对市场结构性变化,企业需要调整策略以适应需求变化,可能通过内部建设或外部收购来获取所需能力。
  • 🛠️ **公司能力与专长**:企业在考虑并购时,应评估自身在品牌建设、创意媒体、在线广告等方面的核心能力。
  • 📚 **数据分析**:在分析过程中,区分不同客户群体的媒体消费习惯和广告投放偏好,以及这些习惯如何随时间变化。
  • 💹 **利润与增长**:了解不同业务部门的利润和增长情况,特别是那些快速增长的领域,可以帮助企业确定并购的潜在价值。
  • 🤔 **结构性转变**:识别并理解市场结构性转变的原因,如消费者偏好的变化,对制定并购策略至关重要。
  • 🏢 **组织文化与整合**:在考虑并购时,评估两家公司的组织文化和潜在的整合问题,以确保并购后能够顺利运作。

Q & A

  • 什么是并购适配框架(mergers and acquisitions fit framework)?

    -并购适配框架是一种用于评估潜在收购目标是否适合被特定公司收购的工具。它主要关注目标公司是否与收购公司在客户、产品、公司本身及竞争环境等方面相匹配,而不仅仅是评估收购行为本身是否值得。

  • 在并购中,互补资产的经典情况是什么?

    -互补资产的经典情况是一家拥有热门品牌和新产品但分销有限的年轻公司,与一家拥有庞大销售力量但产品质量一般的成熟公司之间的并购。通过并购,可以将年轻公司的产品通过成熟公司的销售网络进行推广。

  • 在并购分析中,如何看待公司内部成本重叠的问题?

    -在并购分析中,公司内部成本重叠被视为潜在的节约领域。如果两个公司合并,可以精简重叠的部门,如人力资源部门,从而减少成本开支。但同时要注意保持公司的核心优势,避免因过度缩减而损害公司价值。

  • 在分析Omega和Omega公司的案例时,为什么销售增长停滞不前?

    -Omega和Omega公司的销售额增长停滞不前,是因为其主要客户群体——大型跨国公司的广告支出没有增加。同时,市场整体在增长,特别是数字广告领域,但Omega和Omega公司在这一领域的业务占比较小。

  • 为什么数字广告领域的增长速度远远超过其他广告领域?

    -数字广告领域的增长速度超过其他领域主要是因为客户群体的偏好改变。大型公司越来越倾向于在线媒体投放和可量化的媒体形式,这使得数字广告成为增长最快的领域。

  • 在并购分析中,为什么需要考虑文化兼容性问题?

    -文化兼容性是并购成功的关键因素之一。如果并购后两家公司的员工无法良好合作,可能会导致整合失败,影响业务运行。文化差异可能导致员工抵触、效率低下,甚至关键人才流失。

  • 在考虑并购时,为什么需要进行竞争对手分析?

    -竞争对手分析有助于了解目标公司在市场上的地位,包括市场份额、增长速度以及与竞争对手的比较。这有助于评估并购后能否实现战略目标,如市场扩张、产品线增强或成本节约。

  • 为什么Omega和Omega公司可能需要考虑并购来应对市场变化?

    -Omega和Omega公司面临的是市场需求的结构性变化,他们的传统强项(如电视广告和品牌建设)正在萎缩,而他们不擅长的领域(如数字广告)正在快速增长。通过并购,公司可以快速获得新的能力和市场份额,以适应市场变化。

  • 在并购分析中,为什么需要考虑产品线是否有重叠?

    -考虑产品线是否有重叠对于确定并购后能否实现协同效应至关重要。如果两家公司的产品线高度重叠,可能会导致内部竞争和资源浪费。相反,如果产品线互补,可以扩大产品范围,满足更广泛的客户需求。

  • 在并购决策过程中,为什么需要考虑收购价格?

    -收购价格是决定并购是否经济合理的关键因素。即使两家公司在战略上非常匹配,如果收购价格过高,也可能使得并购无法带来预期的投资回报,甚至导致财务负担。

  • 在并购分析中,为什么需要考虑公司的组织结构?

    -公司的组织结构影响并购后的整合过程。不同的组织结构可能导致不同的管理风格和运营效率。在并购分析中考虑组织结构有助于预测和规划并购后的运营模式,确保整合顺利进行。

Outlines

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😀 概述并购适配框架

本段介绍了并购适配框架,用于评估公司A是否应收购公司B。框架侧重于分析目标公司是否适合并购,而非并购行为本身对行业的影响。框架包含四个关键领域:客户、产品、公司和竞争,类似于商业情境框架。

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🤝 互补资产与协同效应

讨论了两种典型的并购情况:互补资产和协同效应。互补资产是指一家公司拥有优秀的产品但分销有限,而另一家公司拥有强大的销售力量但产品一般,通过并购可以实现产品和分销的优势互补。协同效应则是指合并后的公司价值大于各自独立价值之和的情况,通常涉及内部成本重叠和效率提升。

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📈 行业增长与公司特定问题

通过案例分析,探讨了公司销售停滞的问题。通过对比行业整体增长和公司特定情况,发现虽然公司销售停滞,但行业整体仍有增长,表明问题可能出在公司而非整个行业。进一步分析了竞争对手和市场细分,以及不同广告代理公司的市场份额和增长情况。

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💡 客户细分与市场变化

深入分析了客户的不同细分市场,如大型跨国公司、中型企业和小企业,并探讨了这些细分市场的增长情况。提出了在分析中遇到难题时,通过细分来深入理解问题的方法。

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📊 广告支出与媒体类型分析

分析了不同客户细分的广告支出变化,以及媒体类型的分布情况。发现虽然总体广告支出保持稳定,但在不同媒体类型之间存在转移,特别是从传统媒体向互动媒体的转移。

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🔄 市场需求的结构性变化

讨论了市场需求的结构性变化,如互联网的快速增长对广告行业的影响。分析了Omega和Omega公司在不同媒体类型上的专长和市场表现,以及它们与市场需求之间的不匹配问题。

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🎯 收购策略与市场定位

提出了针对Omega和Omega公司的战略建议,包括通过收购来获取市场快速增长部分的能力。分析了潜在收购目标的市场份额和增长速度,并讨论了收购的潜在好处,如扩大客户基础、获取新产品类别以及利用现有账户作为新工具的分销渠道。

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🤔 文化兼容性与收购决策

讨论了文化兼容性在收购决策中的重要性,指出文化差异是导致收购失败的主要原因之一。提出了在组织结构上采取措施以减少文化冲突,如保持独立运营或合并等。

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💭 收购的价值与市场参与

最后,讨论了即使在交叉销售协同效应不大的情况下,通过收购参与可能主导市场的细分领域,可能是一种比自建更快速的方式。强调了在不同情况下,收购的合理性会有所不同,需要根据具体情况来评估。

Mindmap

Keywords

💡并购

并购指的是两家或更多的独立企业合并成一家企业的过程,通常涉及一家公司购买另一家或多家公司的股份或资产。在视频中,讨论了并购的适配框架,以及如何决定是否进行并购。

💡市场适应性

市场适应性是指企业根据市场变化调整其产品、服务或业务模式的能力。视频中通过Omega和Omega公司的案例,探讨了公司如何通过并购来适应市场变化,特别是转向数字广告服务的市场需求。

💡市场细分

市场细分是将市场划分为具有相似需求或特征的消费者群体的过程。视频中提到了对不同客户群体进行细分,以识别和理解他们的需求,从而为并购决策提供依据。

💡竞争优势

竞争优势是指公司在市场中相对于竞争对手所具有的有利地位或优势。视频通过分析Omega和Omega公司与竞争对手之间的差异,探讨了如何通过并购来增强公司的竞争优势。

💡成本协同

成本协同是指通过并购减少重复成本,实现规模经济。视频中提到了两个大公司合并时,可以通过整合相似的部门(如人力资源部门)来减少成本。

💡资产互补

资产互补是指并购双方的资产可以相互补充,提高整体价值。例如,一个公司可能拥有强大的品牌和产品,而另一个公司可能拥有广泛的分销网络。视频中讨论了这种互补性如何成为并购决策的一个关键因素。

💡市场增长

市场增长是指市场规模或价值的增加。视频中分析了数字广告市场的快速增长,并探讨了Omega和Omega公司如何通过并购参与这一增长领域。

💡文化差异

文化差异指的是不同组织在价值观、行为准则和工作方式上的差异。视频最后讨论了并购中文化差异可能带来的挑战,以及如何通过组织结构调整来最小化这些差异。

💡客户偏好

客户偏好涉及客户对产品或服务的特定需求和喜好。视频中通过分析不同客户群体的偏好,揭示了Omega和Omega公司需要调整其服务以满足市场需求。

💡产品组合

产品组合是指公司提供的所有产品或服务的集合。视频通过比较Omega和Omega公司与Equal公司的产品组合,展示了并购如何帮助公司扩展其产品线并进入新的市场细分。

💡市场结构变化

市场结构变化指的是市场的基本组成或运作方式发生的变化。视频中讨论了广告行业从传统媒体向数字媒体的转变,以及这种结构变化如何影响公司的并购决策。

Highlights

讨论了并购的框架,特别是当公司A决定是否收购公司B时使用的方法。

介绍了“并购适配框架”,关注目标公司是否适合收购,而非一般性的并购价值。

通过四个关键领域(客户、产品、公司和竞争)来分析并购的适用性。

提到了互补资产的经典情况,如新公司有热门品牌但分销有限,而老公司拥有强大的销售力量。

讨论了合并带来的潜在协同效应,尤其是当两个公司合并后的价值远大于各自独立价值时。

分析了内部成本重叠的问题,如两个大公司合并后可以精简人力资源部门以降低成本。

通过虚构的Omega and Omega广告公司案例,展示了如何应用并购框架来解决实际问题。

分析了Omega and Omega公司销售停滞的原因,发现成本和收入均未变化。

通过对比行业整体增长,发现Omega and Omega公司的表现与行业整体不符。

识别了数字广告是行业内唯一快速增长的细分市场,年增长率达到30%。

探讨了为什么客户快速向数字广告公司投入资金,而其他公司却没有获得同样的增长。

分析了不同客户群体(如财富500强品牌经理和中小企业)的广告支出变化。

提出了在市场结构性变化时,公司应如何利用其资产和能力来响应变化。

讨论了Omega and Omega公司在创意电视广告方面的专长与市场需求之间的不匹配。

提出了通过并购来快速获取公司不擅长但市场需求高的领域的能力和产品。

分析了潜在并购目标Equal公司的产品线,发现其产品正是快速增长客户群体所需的。

讨论了并购后的公司文化融合问题,以及如何通过组织结构调整来最小化文化冲突。

强调了在并购决策中考虑价格之外的因素,如市场定位、产品组合和公司文化的重要性。

Transcripts

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all right let's talk about mergers and

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acquisitions

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okay so pull up the framework sheet let

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me walk you through the framework

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actually quite straightforward actually

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this is what I call the mergers and

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acquisitions fit framework and it's

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generally used when company a is

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deciding whether Company B is the right

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amongst the companies available to be

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acquired is Company B the right one to

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acquire is less about is it worth

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acquiring someone in general in terms of

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sorting trying to change the industry

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capacity it's more about is this target

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particular target makes sense okay and

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the easiest way to understand this I

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mean it really is just a variation of

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the of the business situation framework

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so MA and we're using slide a here ma is

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it's still my four key areas customers

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products company and competition ran up

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space here and essentially what I'm

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doing conceptually is we have company a

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which is the potential acquirer company

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B and then combine new company

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and the general rule of thumb is you

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sort of go through the exact same

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process we did earlier but for each

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individual company and you sort of

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synthesize you add up what the combined

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entities would look like those common

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M&A situations are mile there tend to be

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in one of two categories one is

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complementary assets so the classic

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situation is young company has hot brand

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new product ok but very limited

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distribution old company has like the

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biggest sales force on planet earth but

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their products stink okay

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so it's like well you could just take

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the product in product a company a I'm

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sorry company B move it to the acquiring

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company pump it right into the sales

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force and boom they got the hottest

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product mark with the best distribution

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wouldn't that be great so conceptually

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that's how it typically works the other

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area is actually those are ones I like

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just supper from the case those are the

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ones I think make the most sense

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right so in an obvious synergy where the

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two combined are worth a lot more

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together than apart other areas

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essentially are around

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internal cost cost overlap so you got a

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big company I got a big company we have

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we each have like an HR department that

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spends 50 million a year we only need

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one so you can sort of combine it to

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companies strip out and have one

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department in say 50 million a year and

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that tends to be more on the cost side

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but you know you can't shrink the

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greatness right so that's sort of just

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one area looking and so I'll give you as

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one example see if I got all the points

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here yeah make sense so far okay

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the case I want to give and demonstrate

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since we're on the topic of media anyway

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is there's this fictitious company it's

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an advertising agency so global brand

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advertising agencies serving consumer

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packaged goods companies and I'm going

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to call them Omega and Omega okay you

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can speculate who they are and Omega and

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Omega they are a billion dollar company

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roughly and their sales are flat and

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their sales are flat past three years in

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a row and they they contacts your firm

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and wants you to help them

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help us fix this problem we need growth

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or flat three years in a row what should

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we do and actually know what this case

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was sort of assuming I did an earlier

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case which I skipped okay so let me I'll

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give you the answer to the prior case

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Omega and Omega they how much fun do we

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have two o'clock when I'll do the whole

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thing okay I'll do I'll go through

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swithed isness situation framework for

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Omega and Omega and I'm gonna tell you

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in advance it's going to end up evolving

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to an MLA case you can sort of see how

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that flows and I'll try to point out

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some ojas that would trigger a thought

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that it should be there man okay okay

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Omega Omega flat sales actually this

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will be even better we use all the

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frameworks even better I'm so excited so

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I'm going to slide F here so

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we are talking about Omega and Omega

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profits are flat at 0% to understand why

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profits are flat we need to look at

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revenues and cost okay and it turns out

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there's been no change in cost and

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there's been no change in in revenue

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and the next question then is okay well

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what about what are the components of

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revenue and we know if there's a change

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in revenue per count let's say or the

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number of accounts

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and it turns out the clown growth has

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been flat and the revenue per account

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has been flat so that's interesting so

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really no real change so next question

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is what's happening to the market

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overall right so one of the things on

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the checklist on the original

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profitability framework and it turns out

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that and usually when I swear to do

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comparisons I like to start with the

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most general number first and then and

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then then break down so if you're sort

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of down and you realize I'll kind of the

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industry comparison it's often better to

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sort of jump up a level because it's

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less math that way so I would say that's

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interesting I would say out that

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probably I now wonder if this is a

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company specific issue or an

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industry-wide issue and and then I would

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pie say do we have information on

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whether profits for the advertising

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industry overall is it has changed not

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is it going up as a flat or decline and

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so I've been here so this is sort of

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industry I see this right industry and

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oh oh and OH

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because it's well two reasons one sort

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of practical one sort of discuss one as

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I know the answer is sort of the real

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answer and the other one probably if the

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the the way the question was phrased as

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they want to grow faster and so if costs

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are flat and they haven't changed then

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if I no cost better I still can't grow

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it so I need either our pricing

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improvement to an improvement so that

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was for why sort of gravitate towards

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that and I didn't have any data there so

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I wanted to you know hasn't you stripped

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it over that way and so let's say so if

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we look at profits over all Omega and

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Omega is flat industries growing at 5%

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ok well that's interesting so obviously

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we're doing something different than the

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industry overall

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that's why AHA ok ok so so this is it's

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not clearly just a company specific

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profitability problem there's something

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going on difference in the industry

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overall perfectly for won't cut it ok so

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I'm going to switch I'll leave this over

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here and we're going to a slide G here

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and I am going to do the business

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situation framework because I'm like

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what that was one I have no idea

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something weirds going on and to

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understand what's going on for Omega

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Omega in this industry when you look at

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four key areas when you look at the

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customers the products company itself

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and competitors

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okay now in this particular situation I

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have some data and insight that there

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are some difference between what the

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company is doing the competition okay so

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I want to I would probably in this case

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be tempted to start there and we can

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pull that one out okay so if we look on

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our checklist the the first question I

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would ask is who are the major

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categories of competitors and what's the

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concentration in market share okay

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and so let's say there in this case the

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interviewer might say well there are

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three classes of four classes I think of

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advertising agencies okay that's a

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segmentation right and they are

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global ad agencies to direct response

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media agencies I will explain what those

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are in seconds and digital advertising

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and then media buying

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okay great and I would ask sort of a

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clarifying question so what is a direct

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response agency they do like direct mail

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okay got it digital ads they sort of do

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online advertising is that right yes

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that's right

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what does media buying thing well the

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way the ad agency business works you've

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got people who create ads you know

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people who buy ad space they tend to

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split it up so they're specialists who

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buy ad space and the specialist who

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create ads okay got it so that's what it

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looks like so I'm looking at the

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competition concentration so what's the

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mix like what percentage of total pie

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that each people have you know and we

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know in total it's a hundred percent and

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let's say I don't know media buyings

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and twenty percent the global ad

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agencies fifty percent will call this 20

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percent and 10 percent okay okay so it's

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fairly concentrated at least like

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category within global agency is roughly

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how many are there like four or five

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okay okay got it sort of a oligopoly ish

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kind of structure okay so the next thing

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is around competitors and their

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behaviors so we would like to know more

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about each of the categories of

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competitors we know what the mix is and

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so since we have this unusual situation

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where the company our company is has

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flat growth by the industry overall it

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has 5% growth we want to know where the

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growth is coming from so I'd say well

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now that we understand what the

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competition situation competitive

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situation looks like I like to

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understand what the profit is we know

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overall it's 5% but by segments what's

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the profitability growth for each of the

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major segments so so this is sort of

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market share and this is growth rate of

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profits

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turns out all global ad agencies are in

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fact actually shrinking okay

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so overall but engines the segment our

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client is in is actually shrinking a

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little bit so they actually outperform

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by here direct response is and growing

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it's also flat meeting buying is flat

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and digital advertising is growing at 30

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percent per year that's enough haha

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interesting so really it's not the

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industry overall its profits increasing

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its really a particular segments within

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the industry that's really driving the

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overall numbers so we really have to

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figure out is what's going on there with

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digital advertising okay now would say

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AHA now this is a time where I have the

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aha I understand what's going on and on

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the competitive side now I want to know

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why digital advertising is going so fast

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and this is when I'm inclined to switch

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over to the customer branch okay so I am

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temporarily leaving best practices

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barriers to entry supply to conservation

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all that because I have some information

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that suggests another issue is far more

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relevant is why are these customers

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giving these guys so much money so

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quickly when everyone else is getting

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none of it so that's what my decision is

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to switch so the way I would transition

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and say it's interesting it looks like

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the customers are really driving and the

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increase in digital advertising growth

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it's the only segment that's sort of

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profitable on an increasing basis it

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looks like we need to under better

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understand what's going on with

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customers so I'm going to switch gears

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unless we have any other information I'm

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going to switch gears and talk more

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about the customers and the interviewer

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might say that sounds like a reasonable

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plan to me why don't you go ahead and do

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that okay or they might sort of prompt

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you and say give you another some

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feedback saying yeah not quite yet and

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ask you to go further that's fine too

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but I think in this case they'll be

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reasonable switchover okay that's

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talking about the customers so who are

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the customers right what are their

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segments and let's look at the growth

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rates for each segments that's the first

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question on the checklist

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so let me get a new slide this is what

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is this that's G so let's see FG that's

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must be H so you slide H here and we're

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gonna look at customers and I would like

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to say okay so what what I'd like to

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know more about the customers overall

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and what are the major segments and and

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the integral I well here's we do know

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there are let's see

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fortune 500 sort of brand managers if

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you would brand company so like a PNG

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okay yeah let's see who else they're

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sort of mid-market and I don't know

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small business okay that's interesting

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and what percentage of that dollars to

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sort of belong to each segment and it

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turns out so short of share of spending

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the big PNG kind of companies out there

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spending 70% then mark is 20% side in a

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small business of 10 percent so I'm

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parting that so okay so really the bulk

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of the markets being driven by the large

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multinational companies okay

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just out to get to what's the what is

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the change in what is the change in

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spending across all of these segments so

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total ad total ad dollars actually this

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math going to work out my math isn't

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going to tie perfectly yeah quite

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question

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yeah yes yes they will tell you

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that's fine too sometimes in real life

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you don't know right

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oh really uh I never had that so so they

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told you to make up a number basically

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you

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is that that sounds a little bit more

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like an estimation question okay that's

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different so on an estimation question

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that's more testing your ability to well

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estimate and it's less about finding the

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business implications of the data so I

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that I have done a lot to others and

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then have been on the receiving end and

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that's less about sort of business

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judgment analysis it's more about sort

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of computational flexibility in those

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situations that so that's a different

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intelligent kind of problem if we have

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time to end having to walk through that

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wasn't planning on average and some

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other resources that are available that

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sort of cover that topic fairly well the

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book case in point is one of them so

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back to here my numbers are going to tie

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up but if you don't hold me to that

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I'm going to say that see share spending

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was my next question so share spending

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and change change right right so let's

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say it's all flat

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so that's like that's interesting how

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does that work okay something must be

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going on well and so now I'm sort of

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like thinking I'm sort of stuck okay

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when when you're stuck in like seems odd

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something doesn't seem bright I know I

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clearly not I'm clearly not

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understanding something Golden Rule

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when in doubt segments when in doubt

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segments I mean that's sort of saved my

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butt a lot of times okay so we segment

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to think it's biggest right because

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obviously has the most leverage you know

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if the small business want to change a

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lot it's such a small percentage it

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makes no big difference on the bottom

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the aggregate number so I'm going to say

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well that's really interesting something

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unusual is going on here I'd like to

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sort of break out the the Fortune finder

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multinational companies and segment that

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and look at what are the sub segments

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within that mark that customer segment

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and then also I'd like to look at

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whether their ad spending has changed

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them up and so we are going to split out

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the fortune 500 and this is where you

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say I want a segment and then you sort

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of shut up

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and they'll tell you how to segment

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because a lot of ways you could segment

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and so they're going to say well there's

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yeah

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I literally just I said I would say um

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clearly okay I'm not sure what's going

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on here but something's very odd how can

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you have one type of competitor who's

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going 30% per year when the old one

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markets flat the big company seems to be

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is fairly flat so gosh I'm puzzled okay

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yes

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yes so so the question is in this

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particular situation you could have a

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segment of competitors who whose

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revenues are increasing but it could be

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related or unrelated to the fact that ad

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spending hazard has not changed I gotcha

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so points

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I would probably and that's I probably

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would ask and because this is a

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percentage basis right to your point

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so maybe the absolute dollars are

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changing that's a fair point and I would

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probably in hindsight I probably asked

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for absolute numbers rather than

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percentages so I get the percentage

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which I wonder which that one's largest

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and then I would probably at some point

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realize I have to get absolute numbers

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because because I don't know because it

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could be one of those two things

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so I'd say okay now that I understand

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that this is the biggest segment let's

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look at total $1 spent you know for this

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and so let's say that's I don't know

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we'll call it for total ad spend by

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segment let's call it four billion and

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there are two segments there are the

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fortune 500 sort of brand divisions and

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of the fortune 500

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I'm not interactive okay and interactive

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is a billion brain this three billion

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okay and so that's like that's

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interesting and here's in terms of the

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total how has that changed versus the

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previous series on absolute dollars in

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any mere sight well it's actually been

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fairly steady the past three years

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that's what's interesting so then within

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the segments how have how have numbers

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change and they might say well the in

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the fortune 500 brand division the brand

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divisions of the fortune 500 companies

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that's been shrinking so that used to be

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three and a half billion you know two

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years ago and this year it's only three

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billion and the it's so basically it's

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basically moving from traditional media

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to to interactive okay all right so so

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then so we know ad spending for the

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interactive divisions are going up and

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the ad spending on the traditional four

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should find brand managers is going down

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so I would say our synthesize at this

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point okay that's interesting so it

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looks like from a industry standpoint

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the companies that are doing the best

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are the ones that are offering digital

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advertising services

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to be the only growing fast growing

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segment if you look at the customer side

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on the demand side overall demand for ad

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spending has been fairly flat and it's

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actually been a big shift fairly rapidly

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I might add between sort of traditional

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advertising towards online interactive

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advertising and and if I wanted as an

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interview to push this to an M&A

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situation I would say great that seems

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like a reasonable conclusion now what

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would you recommend to the clients and

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that would be a way to force it to more

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of an M&A tie between oh I'd let it keep

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going and so we can sort of explore

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things more and figure out why what's

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changing so there are things around

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product issues potentially so

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interactive advertising is a different

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kind of product than traditional you can

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understand why there's lots of things

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you sort of make up there but I'll sort

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of speed it up a little bit so we can

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get more onto the M&A side and so I

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would say that's it comics my framework

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here okay I'm going to keep on going on

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the customer stuff because there's a

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couple more insights I want to want to

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pull out so the question at this point

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now is is what so we understand

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interactive advertising in the global

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fortune 500 is really driving the shift

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on the demand side and on the supply

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side like why is it happening so we just

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keep going down the framework on let's

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see on the business situation framework

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so you know what does each customer

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segment want the interview might say

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well the fortune 500 companies they're

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basically they're very media centric

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towards traditional media so newspaper

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new print media television and

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television and radio and the the

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interactive agencies office they're sort

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of very very geared towards two things

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one is online media placements and the

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other is they like sort of very

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measurable media okay so where you can

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track responses so they have a vent

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towards a lot of statistical analysis

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whereas the traditional media they're

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more interested in like creativity

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brands you know make building the

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emotional connection to customers okay

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so that's interesting yeah might say at

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this point when we back up for a second

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for for Omega Omega I just want to make

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sure I got this right

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Omega mega is in the

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we'll a brand agency what is their mix

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of business what percentage of media is

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through the various media types and

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exactly it might be relevant so I would

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draw this out

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jump back over and the interview might

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say well about 50% of their media

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spending from their clients is

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television 25% is is radio and like 20%

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is radio and 5% interactive interesting

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so I would say aha

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right I've been AHA and I would say well

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looks like the problem is Omega and

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Omega they're really strong in the area

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that customers are carrying less and

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less about it happens to be big today

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but it's not where the growth is and the

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customers are shifting towards

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interactive media all right next issue

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we belong on price you know what is each

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some willing to pay and and if I were to

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ask that question you might say well the

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standard Commission for traditional

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media buyers and ad agency is like 15%

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Commission so on hundred million dollar

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budget the agency gets at fifteen

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million bucks okay that's interesting

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well what about for the digital

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interactive agencies well their

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Commission's are higher they get a 20%

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Commission well interesting okay so

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they're getting more money that's

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probably what's driving the revenue

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growth of that segments even though ad

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spending overall is fairly flat and in

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aggregate it's a more profitable product

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basically

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how and this is an action one um nice

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ward of AHA and formulation which I

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haven't valid yet is I'm wondering why

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they're shifting from traditional media

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to online media okay now prior knowledge

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would say well it's because internet's

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going so fast right but i want to assume

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that so I would say it's interesting I'm

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learning what's driving this trend so I

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within this framework I'm gonna within

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this and else I'm going to step out for

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a second and I like to look at further

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down the stream in the in the industry I

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want to look at viewership okay and I

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would be interested in knowing amongst

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the four major media types

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how has the viewership or the equivalent

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listenership readership how has that

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change across the major media types and

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the interview might say well we know and

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in the major segments like television

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radio you know radio newspaper ran and

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Internet the top three are flat

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Internet's growing top three are

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shrinking and Internet's growing fast so

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maybe in that's going thirty percent per

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year although other ones are shrinking

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and in fact it's actually what's

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happening today so if I had her that I'd

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say aha another aha okay so this is a

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structural shift being driven by viewers

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that's flowing through to advertisers

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who want to be where the people are

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which is impacting the profitability of

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the agencies that are trying to serve

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these advertisers so what's happening

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here is a structural shift and you asked

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earlier about what happens when it's a

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market problem versus an internal

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problem and this is exactly what that

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kind of situation you have a structural

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shift in demand now the question is what

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do you do about it

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so as an interviewer I would say that's

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an interesting interesting sort of

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insight what would you recommend to a

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mega mega and let's see now I'm gonna

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hold off on that for a second

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okay so basically now the question

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really is the problem really is the

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markets really changed - favorite

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segment that Omega mega is not in what

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should i may go make a do about it now

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at this point I kind of understand the

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demand drivers let's demand and that's

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more about like what options doesn't

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make it make it have to sort of deal

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with this demand problem because you

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can't really change in demand much right

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so now it's more like how do we respond

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issue so back to the original framework

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I would say okay I think we have a good

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grasp on on what customers are doing

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what they're doing is they're just

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following their customers that's really

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it and their customers are moving and

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shifting their viewership habits so the

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advertisers are doing the same thing so

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the question now is what do we do about

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well what do we have what assets do we

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have alright so what we ask us we have

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we can use and let's figure out what we

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can how we can respond so I'm going to

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jump over here and now look at the

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company because it seems like if you

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have a good sense of what the company is

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capable of doing we're not capable of

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doing a better sense of what options

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they can use to respond to the market

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situation that are structurally changed

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so let's talk about the company first

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issue on the list is capabilities and

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expertise what is omega and mega good at

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ok turns out they're very good at

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creating blockbuster television ads ok

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it's what the interview might say

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they're very good at creative media

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they're very good at branding they're

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very good at sort of the jingles and the

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slogans and sort of building brand new

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brand new brands it's interesting and in

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terms of of distribution channels Omega

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mega has a direct sort of sales for if

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they're constantly contacting the

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Fortune finder accounts which is fine I

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might be tempted to jump back into

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customer and say well what kind of is

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there a difference in the channel

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preferences right for for each of the

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segments in this case I've been jumping

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around a little bit because of the ihot

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I might have jumped too soon

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all right because next on the list I

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would have had distribution channel

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preferences was one of the things on the

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checklist but I sort of jumped back for

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because I thought this is more important

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sometimes I'm wrong and if you're right

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you can switch back but you got to be

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real clear about it ok so the way you

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would say that is well interesting just

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a double check I think I know the answer

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I'm a double track I want to make sure

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they're the two major segments and the

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cust

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the advertisers what distribution

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channels are they using for placing ads

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turns out they're using using agencies

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so okay I that's checked so we're sort

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of in the right ballpark okay and ant

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let's see the the inside I'm trying to

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drive towards is there's a mismatch

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between the capabilities of what Omega

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Omega can do and what customers that the

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fastest-growing customers really want

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okay so I mentioned earlier that that

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the interactive customers they want

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online media placements and they want

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really good metrics that help relieve

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they want to basically mass driven

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marketing okay and in this case when

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mega mega wants creativity driven market

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that's what they're good at doing so

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then the interviewer might say well what

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do you do what do you tell them they go

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and make it to do okay well that's a big

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challenge I think so basically about the

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so much what's going on Omega Omega is

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facing a structural shift in market

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demand yeah where the segments omega

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mega is strong in is shrinking and the

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segments Omega and Omega is poor in is

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growing incredibly fast okay so Omega

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Omega is not positioned properly in

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marketplace relative to new market

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demand and I and the in terms

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recommendations they got to be where the

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demand is and I think you've got one of

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two options typically you either sort of

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build that capability internally or you

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go buy okay and so while the energy

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might say interesting insight well which

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would you suggest yeah well I might go

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back and look at the company more look

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at the capabilities and really sort of

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hone in on what capabilities Oh Meghan

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mega has and then compare that to what

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customers want and there's a short short

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in the process I'll just tell you like

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what they're good at the customers don't

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care about at all okay so a total

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mismatch okay they want these are great

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TV people they hate TV these are brand

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people they hate brand these are

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emotionally driven people these are all

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like numerically driven people okay

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total polar opposites and so given that

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information what he suggests Omega Omega

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some sort of abbreviating certain parts

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of the case to get to the MA part I

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would say well given that there's a not

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just a skills mismatch between what

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Omega mega is good at and what customers

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want seems to be a sort of a cultural

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difference to that way

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Omega mega people tend to think about

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advertising is a totally different than

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the pneumatically driven marketers that

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are interested interactive advertised so

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in that situation I think you're the

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best option seems to be looking at an

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acquisition because the billet

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internally it seems like it's too big of

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a leap so I'd be looking towards looking

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at acquisition options in determining if

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there are any adversity and targets that

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we were considering okay great let's

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talk about that more the interviewer

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says okay great I thought the case was

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over but I'll keep going cuz this is my

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third frame right and I would say well

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what would you what would you suggest

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which companies which company should

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Omega and make a potential look at

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acquiring well I'd like to actually do a

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see I guess there would be a competitor

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analysis I would like to actually take

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the digital advertising segment that's

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going on 30% here and I would like to

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sub segment that into who the key

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competitors so basically it's a

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competitor analysis all over again right

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so who are the key competitors and

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what's the market share differential

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between each of them so there is we'll

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call it what do they call it there's

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equal advertising there is super click

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and I don't know math ads

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and together I forget what do we say

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they're doing a let's call it a billion

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and so quick Greeks we know what the

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three major competitors are almost

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called everyone else what's the market

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share structure look like and so equal

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is doing four hundred million super

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click is doing two hundred math ads it's

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doing two hundred and everybody else is

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doing two hundred okay that's

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interesting and just article companies

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are in the final category

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oh yeah I'm sorry so we have a situation

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where equals dominant player we got sort

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of two mid-level players and then we

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have everyone else that's sort of

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picking up all the pieces and I might

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ask well I've just had to make sure

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curiosity how many people are in

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everyone else 500 okay so it's a very

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very fragmented so I would say well look

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based on the market shares wipe I asked

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for growth rates - okay so who's growing

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are they shrinking and if I got growth

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rates - and it ran out of space

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unfortunately let's just say all of them

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are growing but equals growing the

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fastest okay if I were to pull back up

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I'd say well it looks like amongst the

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potential targets the three top market

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share players might be a good fit

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they're all going fairly well and G's

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equal looks fairly interesting because

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not only are they the biggest but also

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growing the fastest right

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equal first great why don't you do that

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what would you want to know and this is

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where I go to that original M&A

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framework

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so to summarize ma from here basically

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doing the business situation for me for

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each company independently and then

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adding the two together okay and

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actually I've done this I have not used

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this matrix but it's actually not a bad

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idea

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so I would say well for customers for

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Company A which is Omega and Omega and

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we're on slide here

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company a make Omega n Omega o and O and

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equal they have the brand the fortune

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500 brand accounts I would do the

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business situation analysis for equal

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and I discover they have the primary

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segment is the fortune 500 sort of EE

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accounts all the interactive arms of

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these fortune cookies and so this is 80%

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of the business for Megan Omega this is

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80% of the business for equal okay okay

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so I'd say that's interesting there

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seems to be very little overlap okay so

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that if Omega Omega which were quite

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cool it would in fact be getting a very

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big position in this fast-growing

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segments so that seems interesting I

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could do the same analysis around

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products and and in the the key products

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for Omega and Omega are sort of like TV

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ads focus groups sort of brand concepts

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the product set for equal is you know

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database marketing tools statistical

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modeling and then sort of online advice

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so there's no overlapping products

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either so you don't have to like you

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know kill one of the products or

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anything like that so you're their body

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they would be buying into a whole new

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category of products I would probably

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just verify that the products that equal

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has is in fact what customers want I

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mean I'm feeling pretty good about that

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cuz the revenue so fast but I applied a

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double check and it would say and it

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would turn out that they in fact they're

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producing exactly what those kind of

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customers want that's why they win so

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fast so that's interesting see then in

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terms of the company we know that Omega

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Omega is is has one of the best in terms

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of sort of brand building and and equal

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as we analyze equal they are good at

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sort of online campaigns obviously and

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statistical predictive statistics

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predictive analysis in terms of what

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customers going to buy based on data so

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they say they have like PhDs right and

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whereas Omega make it has like artists

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right so it's very very different and

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then the question really is okay so if

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you combine obviously they're the

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favorite sort of facing the same

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competitive environments so I won't go

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into that one so now the question is

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okay so should should Omega Omega sort

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of acquire equal would it be a good fit

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and I would say it sort of purchase

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price aside just looking at what each

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has to offer the combined company looks

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pretty interesting okay you take Omega

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Omega which is tied for one of the

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largest market shares in its segment has

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reached all these major accounts eat by

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picking up equal they get much larger

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customer base with no overlap

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okay so there's sort of no negative

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synergy I guess like if we had if you

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buy and cost a competitor that the exact

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same account so you did you're not

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actually growing right because yours

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basically it's the same sale it's two

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sales force reaching the same accounts

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and so you may look at becomes a cost

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savings play whereas here you actually

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incremental I getting new accounts so

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your your number of accounts goes up

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significantly by the way what I'm doing

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essentially you probably

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get this out is every time there's a

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good fit it's sort of like check one box

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on the good idea list next is around

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products by Omega Omega acquiring into

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buying into equal they're picking up the

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picking up products that they're

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terrible in that the high-growth

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customers really want that seems like a

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good fit as well in the company

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environment you know things that are

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mega mega are good at are very very

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different than what equals good at so

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it's a net positive overall in addition

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because Omega Omega has access to so

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many more accounts there's an

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opportunity to take these tools and sort

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of use that as a distribution channel

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that seems like a good fit so I might

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say that you know overall acquisition

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price aside just from a fit it seems

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like it's a good idea the only issue I

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haven't talked about yet so maybe I jump

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to a conclusion too fast is around the

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company itself and particularly only

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really in any cases cultural stuff

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becomes important actually probably the

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number one reason why Fortune finder

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murders don't work it's not because of

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that any things I talked about it's

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usually because like the people can't

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stand each other right and if they can't

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stand each other in the room then

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usually sort of the business falls pro

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so I might mention I talked about about

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that as a potential issue and say you

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can address some of the potential

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cultural issues if that indeed is an

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issue it looks like there's a potential

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good fit here now the interviewer can do

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one of two things okay they can either

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say we'll create well let's talk about

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purchase price and that becomes more of

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a math case or they can say well how its

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use how would you minimize the cultural

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issues okay and that might be more of an

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issue around expanding around in the

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company part of this framework the

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organizational structure so is there

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something you could do as

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organizationally to minimize that so if

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the cultures are very different for

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example you might have my size well

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maybe you want to just keep them apart

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let's I haven't share offices right and

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it can be sort of an independent arm

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with more of a arm's length relationship

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if the culture fit is better you might

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want to merge them so those are sort of

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some different branches you could go to

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I haven't seen that happen too

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too much this is usually where we're the

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most common variation on this is a

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capacity issue so it's a high fixed cost

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industry let's say well given its

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acquisition if it were a high fixed cost

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industry what would happen to market

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prices hey if you merge and consolidated

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factories or whatever and then that

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becomes a shift to the supply demand

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framework so you can see how you know

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that this example we sort of evolved

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from literally every case we talked

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about and the key is there's always sort

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of one piece of interesting data that's

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the AHA that says ok we oughta this is

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we clearly go in a different direction

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and that's where it tends to be the

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trigger so I tend to do that intuitively

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but hopefully it mentioned F time so you

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can sort of get it right any questions

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on that yes

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absolutely both are right yes many ways

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to be right not always what I might say

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if I'm not sure is it looks like I would

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say well it looks like this is the real

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issue but just to cover my bases and ask

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a few more questions just to make sure

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and then I say I think you got it right

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why don't we move on okay so that's

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little feedback like no you got it keep

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going on one waste time on that and

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sometimes they might let you struggle a

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little bit and then tell you to move on

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so it's a variety of whatever they want

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to do but generally because in a typical

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actual consulting engagements there's

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sort of no right answer because you need

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to know all of this stuff at some point

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so whether you do it on a Monday or

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Thursday what's the big deal as long as

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you get all by Friday so a lot of ways

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to be right and that's a very reasonable

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approach to - yes

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so if you can consider yourself mrs.

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shirt you're going to need those

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customers they don't like if there's no

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overlap to the point um in that

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situation I would say the the benefits

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to Omega Omega and its acquisition this

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the value does not come from the synergy

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of cross selling which may be minimal in

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this case if that's the case the value

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really is participating in the market

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segment that's probably going to

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dominate and Omega mega is being left

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behind and this is a faster way to

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participate in that market than to build

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it yourself in general and in general

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there's a general it off it varies an

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awful lot you can do it a lot there's a

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lot of ways to justify an acquisition

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and reasons why not to do one and you

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may find a situation where you don't

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have that center of that particular

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synergy but there's another one that's

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more valuable so it might still be worth

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doing so there's in terms of how you

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interpret it there's no hard and fast

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rule it just really it really does vary

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on the situation

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you

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