Between two superpowers: Indonesia’s position in the US-China rivalry
Summary
TLDRIndonesia's diplomatic strategy has long focused on maintaining neutrality amidst rising tensions between superpowers like China and the United States. As a leader in Southeast Asia, Indonesia aims to balance its relationships with both nations, engaging in free diplomacy and investment while mediating conflicts, such as in Ukraine and Iran. Despite significant Chinese investment, recent polls show that Indonesians favor neutrality if conflict arises between the U.S. and China. As geopolitical pressures mount, Indonesia continues to uphold its stance as a bridge between rivals, emphasizing its commitment to friendly relations without taking sides.
Takeaways
- 🌍 Indonesia has pursued a policy of neutrality in international relations, positioning itself as a bridge between rival superpowers like the United States and China.
- 🤝 Since gaining independence in 1945, Indonesia has engaged in free and active diplomacy, seeking to have 'a million friends and zero enemies.'
- 🇮🇩 As a founding member of ASEAN and the only Southeast Asian country in the G20, Indonesia plays a crucial leadership role in Southeast Asia.
- 🚆 China's investment in Indonesian infrastructure, particularly through the Belt and Road Initiative, totals approximately $7.9 billion, with projects like the delayed Jakarta-Bandung high-speed rail line.
- 🛡️ The United States has invested around $20 billion in Indonesia, focusing on military and defense ties, including joint military exercises and counter-terrorism efforts.
- 🌊 Tensions in the South China Sea pose significant challenges for Indonesia, as it navigates its relationship with both China and the U.S.
- 🔍 A 2022 poll revealed that 60% of Indonesians feel the country should limit China's influence, yet 84% prefer neutrality in the event of a U.S.-China conflict.
- 📉 Recent deteriorating relations between the U.S. and China have influenced public opinion in Indonesia, increasing distrust toward both powers.
- ⚖️ Indonesia's balancing act is tested by aggressive posturing from both China and the U.S., as it seeks to maintain its neutral stance.
- 🔗 Experts predict that if tensions escalate, Indonesia may lean more towards the United States, viewing it as a less threatening partner compared to China.
Q & A
What is Indonesia's approach to its foreign relations?
-Indonesia aims to maintain a neutral stance, promoting a strategy of 'friends to all, enemies to none' through free and active diplomacy.
How has Indonesia positioned itself amid the growing tensions between China and the United States?
-Indonesia has managed to stay neutral while balancing its relationships with both China and the US, acting as a mediator in various international disputes.
What is the significance of Indonesia's membership in ASEAN and the G20?
-As a founding member of ASEAN and the only Southeast Asian country in the G20, Indonesia plays a leading role in regional cooperation and global economic discussions.
What major infrastructure project is mentioned in the context of China's investment in Indonesia?
-The Jakarta-Bandung high-speed rail line, part of China's Belt and Road Initiative, is a key infrastructure project that reflects China's significant investment in Indonesia.
How does the US approach its relationship with Indonesia compared to China?
-The US focuses on increasing defense ties and military cooperation with Indonesia, while China emphasizes economic investments to strengthen its influence.
What challenges does Indonesia face in maintaining its neutrality?
-Indonesia faces pressure from both China and the US, especially with rising military tensions and differing visions regarding trade and security in the region.
What does a recent poll indicate about Indonesian public opinion regarding China and the US?
-The poll revealed that while a majority of Indonesians believe the country should limit China's influence, most prefer to remain neutral if a conflict between the US and China were to arise.
What was the outcome of the 2018 APEC meeting attended by Indonesia?
-The meeting ended without a consensus on a final declaration, marking the first time in APEC history that member economies could not agree due to differing views on trade.
What can China do to improve its standing in Indonesia compared to the US?
-China should broaden its approach beyond economic investments and consider Indonesia's perspectives and interests to foster a more balanced relationship.
What is the predicted outcome for Indonesia if tensions between the US and China escalate?
-If the rivalry intensifies, Indonesia may lean towards the US, as it is perceived as less threatening than China, despite the economic ties with both countries.
Outlines
🌍 Indonesia's Neutrality in Global Rivalries
The transcript discusses Indonesia's diplomatic strategy, which has centered on maintaining a neutral stance amidst the rivalries of superpowers like China and the United States. Since its independence in 1945, Indonesia has engaged in free and active diplomacy, earning a reputation for having 'a million friends and zero enemies.' As a leader in Southeast Asia, being the only G20 member in the region and a founding member of ASEAN, Indonesia's role is that of a mediator in international conflicts. Recent events, including President Joko Widodo's visits to Ukraine and Russia, illustrate this approach. The country's relationship with China has seen substantial economic investments, particularly through the Belt and Road Initiative, while the U.S. has focused on military collaborations. Tensions in the South China Sea and public sentiment in Indonesia favor a neutral position, with a significant majority preferring to avoid siding with either superpower in the event of a conflict.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Neutrality
💡ASEAN
💡Belt and Road Initiative
💡Diplomacy
💡Military Cooperation
💡South China Sea
💡Investment
💡U.S.-China Rivalry
💡Public Sentiment
💡Economic Strategy
Highlights
Indonesia maintains a neutral stance in its diplomatic relations with major powers, emphasizing 'friends to all, enemies to none.'
Since gaining independence in 1945, Indonesia has engaged in free and active diplomacy to enhance its global standing.
The country plays a significant role in Southeast Asia, being the only member of ASEAN that is part of the G20.
President Joko Widodo's visits to Ukraine and Russia exemplify Indonesia's mediation efforts between conflicting nations.
China has invested approximately $7.9 billion in Indonesian infrastructure projects, highlighting its economic influence in the region.
The Jakarta-Bandung high-speed rail project, part of China's Belt and Road Initiative, has faced significant delays, raising concerns over investment reliability.
China is the third-largest investor in Indonesia, with $24.9 billion invested since 2000, compared to the U.S.'s $20 billion.
The U.S. has focused on enhancing defense ties with Indonesia, conducting joint military exercises and establishing a training center.
Maritime security in the South China Sea has become a new front in U.S.-Indonesia relations, given China's assertiveness in the region.
A recent poll indicates that 60% of Indonesians believe the country should work to limit China's influence in Asia.
Despite negative perceptions of China, 84% of Indonesians prefer the country to remain neutral in a potential U.S.-China conflict.
The increasing tensions between the U.S. and China have led Indonesia to consider aligning more closely with the U.S. due to perceived threats from China.
Public opinion in Indonesia reflects a desire for a balanced approach to foreign relations, emphasizing national interests.
Indonesia's leadership advocates for a diplomatic middle path amidst rising geopolitical tensions.
The failure to reach a consensus during the 2018 APEC meeting reflects the growing strain in U.S.-China relations, impacting Indonesia's diplomatic role.
Transcripts
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for indonesia relations with rival
superpowers like china and the united
states have always been a balancing act
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indonesia always want to um and always
declare itself to be neutral indonesia
has engaged in free and active diplomacy
since gaining independence in 1945 a
strategy that has allowed this rapidly
growing nation to reap the benefits of
having a million friends zero enemies
but as worsening china-u.s relations
continue to polarize the region into
rival alliances
can indonesia maintain this balance
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home to 278 million people indonesia has
long been a leader in southeast asia
it's the only country in the region that
is in the g20 and is a founding member
of asean the association of south east
asian nations
indonesia's leaders often see their role
in world affairs as a neutral third
party who can act as a bridge between
rival nations in times of crisis
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builder
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indonesian president joko widodo's
recent visits to ukraine and russia are
just the latest sign of this approach
indonesia has offered to help mediate
between the west and iran over its
nuclear program
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and maintains diplomatic ties with both
north and south korea
its relationship with china and the us
is a similar balancing act to see what
this looks like you only need to look at
two places bandung and baton
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china has invested as part of its
ambitious belt and road initiative an
estimated 7.9 billion u.s dollars in
indonesian infrastructure projects like
this high-speed rail line linking the
indonesian capital jakarta with the
country's fourth largest city bandung
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the high speed rail line was meant to
begin operations in 2019 instead in 2022
its three years past the deadline and at
least one year from completion once a
promising sign for china's ability to
beat regional rivals like japan in
high-speed rail projects the jakarta
bandung rail line has become emblematic
of indonesia's concerns over chinese
investments
still china far outpaces the us when it
comes to investment in indonesia china
is the third largest investor in the
country with some 24.9 billion us
dollars invested since 2000. the us on
the other hand funded some 20 billion us
dollars over the same period
but while china has focused on economic
investment to win favor the u.s has
taken a different approach
increasing defense ties
indonesia has hosted u.s military
officials for joint exercises and
exhibitions which showcased the
country's armed forces
the two countries historically
collaborated on counter-terrorism
efforts
but in recent years this cooperation has
shifted to a new front the south china
sea station
the us is spending some three and a half
million us dollars on a training center
and naval base in batam an indonesian
island on the edge of the south china
sea and right in the middle of vital
shipping lanes the biggest threat to
indonesia and the south china sea is
china itself which is embroiled in a
maritime dispute in waters around
indonesia's natuna island yes sir you
are in indonesian water sir please move
away and go back to your territory so
your course is dangerous please turn
your course to
your portal
it keeps causing problems it's it's not
the slime so there's a lot of power of
graduates from indonesia to china
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so far indonesia has managed to remain
neutral in the face of intensifying u.s
china rivalry we'll also stand by our
friends as they uphold their rights
and that's especially important
as a prc adopts a more coercive
and aggressive approach
to its territorial claims
foreign
indonesia has unsuccessfully tried
bringing the two parties together before
including during the 2018 apec meeting
in papua new guinea
china has taken advantage of the united
states for many many years
and those days are over the meeting
ended with member economies failing to
agree on a final declaration a first for
apec
but i don't think it will come as a huge
surprise that there are differing
visions on particular elements in
regards to trade since then the
relationship has only grown more
strained a recent poll conducted in 2022
found that 82 percent of americans held
negative views of china a six-point
increase over the previous year's
polling data numerous surveys conducted
in china show similar levels of distrust
with 64 percent saying that china-us
relations were worsening
in indonesia 60 said that indonesia
should join in efforts to limit china's
influence in asia
but if a war between china and the us
were to break out an overwhelming
majority eighty-four percent say
indonesia should remain neutral
so what does this all mean
if defensiveness united states and china
increases and indonesia has to be a side
my prediction is that it will choose
united states because united states has
always been less threatening than china
it also means that economic investments
while important aren't enough to tip the
scales in china's favor
china had done a lot of economic
investment indonesia so if china really
wants balance against united states
in southeast asia it's kind of simply
focused only on economy economy is
important
but it also has to look at more informal
dimension it has to stop being myopic
focusing only on waiting interests but
you also do have to look at what jakarta
wants
still aggressive posturing by washington
and a renewed push for security and
trade blocks like orcas and quad are
poorly received in jakarta
unless things change indonesia seems
intent on continuing to follow the
middle path
friends to all enemies to none and a
bridge between rivals whenever possible
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