Behind The Scenes Of My Biggest Production Ever

Chris Williamson
3 Apr 202422:56

Summary

TLDRThe script describes a pioneering attempt to create a world-first five-camera virtual video wall podcast, featuring guests like Tim Ferris. The production faced numerous challenges, including complex technical setups, lighting adjustments, and coordinating rapid scene transitions. Despite potential risks and sleep deprivation, the team strived for an immersive, visually stunning experience that could enhance the traditional podcast format, aiming to captivate audiences with a blend of rich conversation and cutting-edge visual production.

Takeaways

  • 🚀 A world-first attempt at a five-camera virtual video wall podcast is being planned, showcasing innovative broadcasting technology.
  • 📅 The planning for this ambitious project has been in the works for approximately two months.
  • 🤝 Collaboration with notable personalities like Atia Ferris, Dr. Kane, and Mr. Ballan has been orchestrated.
  • 📍 The project brings together talents all based or near Texas, facilitating the logistics of the shoot.
  • 🎥 Challenges in filming arise due to the complexity of managing multiple virtual environments and the advanced video wall.
  • 💡 The production team had to adapt quickly to technical issues, such as lighting and camera coordination.
  • 🛠️ The team faced unique difficulties, including warping 2D images onto a curved LED wall and syncing them with the cameras.
  • 🎮 One scene involved was fully rendered for a video game using Unreal Engine 5, requiring a complex setup and transition process.
  • 🎬 The podcast host emphasizes the value of trying new and exciting things, even if they might not work out perfectly.
  • 🌟 The host expresses gratitude for reaching milestones like a billion mids and 2 million subs, and reflects on the growth and transition of their career.
  • 🥂 A special mention of receiving champagne from Winston Churchill's custom bottle, symbolizing celebration and appreciation.

Q & A

  • What is the main goal of the podcast production described in the transcript?

    -The main goal is to create a world-first five-camera virtual video wall podcast, aiming to provide a visually stunning and immersive experience for the audience.

  • How long has the planning for this unique podcast taken?

    -The planning for this podcast has taken approximately two months.

  • What challenges did the production team face while setting up the virtual environments?

    -The team faced challenges such as coordinating the lighting for multiple virtual environments, dealing with the technical complexities of a five-camera shoot, and ensuring seamless transitions between different scenes.

  • What was the significance of using Unreal Engine 5 for some of the podcast's scenes?

    -Unreal Engine 5 was used to render some scenes, providing high-quality, realistic visuals that contributed to the immersive experience of the podcast.

  • How did the changing environments during the podcast affect the conversation dynamics?

    -The changing environments revitalized the conversation, creating shifts in energy and mood that enhanced the dialogue between the hosts and guests.

  • What was the role of the video wall in this podcast production?

    -The video wall served as a key technical component, displaying the virtual environments and allowing for a dynamic background that could change in real-time during the podcast.

  • How did the team address the issue of the LED wall's curvature affecting the image?

    -The team had to warp their images back to correct for the stretching caused by the wall's curvature, ensuring that each camera's view appeared as close to reality as possible.

  • What was the significance of the podcast reaching a million subscribers?

    -Reaching a million subscribers was a significant milestone for the podcast, indicating its growing popularity and the impact of its content.

  • How did the host feel about the potential risks involved in this high-tech podcast production?

    -The host acknowledged the risks and potential for failure but was excited by the challenge and the opportunity to create something unique and innovative.

  • What was the host's perspective on balancing the podcast's visual appeal with the purity of the conversation?

    -The host believed in the utility of beauty and aimed to maintain the purity of the conversation while enhancing it with grandeur, occasion, and visually stunning elements.

  • What was the host's reaction to the technical difficulties encountered during the production?

    -The host expressed understanding and appreciation for the crew's professionalism and ability to adapt to challenges, emphasizing the importance of teamwork in overcoming obstacles.

Outlines

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🎬 Innovative Podcast Production

The paragraph discusses the ambitious plan to create a pioneering five-camera virtual video wall podcast, a world's first attempt. The planning for this project has been ongoing for two months, and it involves Atia Ferris, Dr. Kane, and Mr. Ballan, who are all based in or near Texas. The production challenges include managing 16 virtual environments on an advanced video wall while maintaining a conversation. Despite potential complications, the excitement for this unique cinema shoot is high, and the team is optimistic about the innovative visual approach to podcasting.

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🌟 Adapting to New Podcasting Challenges

This section highlights the challenges faced in creating a podcast at an unprecedented level of technical complexity. The team is dealing with rapid scene changes, lighting adjustments, and the integration of multiple environments. The use of a 3D view port as a 2D wall presents unique visual challenges, such as image warping due to the curved wall. The team's goal is to correct these visual discrepancies for each camera and ensure smooth transitions between scenes. The pressure is on to meet the schedule and deliver a high-quality product.

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🚀 Immersive Podcast Experience

The paragraph emphasizes the immersive and dynamic experience of recording a podcast in a changing environment with adaptive lighting. The guest, Dr. K, shares his appreciation for the unique setup and the positive impact it has on the conversation. The technical aspects, such as the use of Unreal Engine 5 and the challenges of transitioning between scenes, are discussed. The crew's professionalism is highlighted as crucial to the success of the project, which aims to provide a visually stunning and engaging podcast experience.

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🎉 Celebrating Milestones and Growth

This segment focuses on the celebration of podcast milestones, such as surpassing a billion mids and reaching 2 million subscribers. The host reflects on the journey from a simple setup to a complex, immersive production. The guest, Tim Ferris, is acknowledged for his influence and guidance. The conversation touches on the importance of maintaining authenticity while enhancing the production value of the podcast. The host also shares personal insights about growth, transitions, and the challenges of fame.

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🌈 Balancing Substance and Style in Podcasting

The final paragraph discusses the balance between the substance of content and the style of presentation in podcasting. The host expresses a desire to enhance the podcast with grandeur and beautiful visuals without compromising the integrity of the conversation. The potential criticisms about the shift towards a more mainstream media style are acknowledged, but the host defends the value of beauty in enhancing the podcast experience. The host also reflects on personal growth and the evolution of their career, emphasizing the importance of enjoying the journey and the community's support.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Virtual Video Wall

A Virtual Video Wall refers to a large, high-resolution display system composed of multiple screens or LED panels, used to create an immersive visual experience. In the context of the video, it is a key component of the podcast setup, allowing for dynamic background changes and a visually engaging environment for the conversation.

💡Unreal Engine 5

Unreal Engine 5 is a game engine developed by Epic Games, known for its high-fidelity visuals and real-time rendering capabilities. In the video, it is used to render the environments for the podcast, providing a level of detail and realism that enhances the viewer's immersion in the conversation.

💡Podcasting

Podcasting refers to the creation and distribution of digital audio or video content, typically in a series, where new episodes are released periodically. In the video, podcasting is the main form of content creation, with the introduction of advanced production techniques to elevate the conversation and viewer experience.

💡Technical Challenges

Technical Challenges refer to the difficulties encountered when implementing complex technological systems or processes. In the video, these challenges are related to the coordination of multiple virtual environments, lighting, camera work, and real-time adjustments during the podcast recording.

💡Immersive Experience

An Immersive Experience is one that deeply involves the audience, making them feel as if they are part of the content or environment. In the video, the goal is to create an immersive podcast experience by using a virtual video wall and dynamic environments that respond to the conversation and create a more engaging atmosphere.

💡Production Value

Production Value refers to the overall quality and polish of a production, often related to the resources, technology, and effort invested in creating the content. In the video, high production value is evident in the use of advanced technologies like Unreal Engine 5 and a virtual video wall, aiming to create a visually stunning and professional podcast.

💡Dynamic Environments

Dynamic Environments are settings or scenes that change in response to the narrative or actions within a production. In the video, the podcast features multiple environments that shift according to the conversation, enhancing the storytelling and viewer engagement.

💡Lighting

Lighting in a production context refers to the manipulation of light to set the mood, highlight subjects, and create visual depth. In the video, lighting plays a crucial role in enhancing the virtual environments and matching the atmosphere to the conversation's tone.

💡Collaboration

Collaboration is the act of working together with others to achieve a common goal. In the video, collaboration is essential as the host, guests, production team, and various specialists must coordinate their efforts to produce a high-quality, innovative podcast with a virtual video wall.

💡Cinematography

Cinematography is the art of capturing visual images and creating a visual narrative through the use of camera angles, movement, and composition. In the video, cinematography is critical in creating a cinematic podcast experience, with careful attention to framing, camera work, and visual effects.

Highlights

Planning for a world-first five-camera virtual video wall podcast, showcasing innovative broadcasting methods.

Collaboration with notable guests such as Atia Ferris and Dr. Kane, adding depth to the podcast's content.

Executing a complex production with 16 virtual environments, pushing the boundaries of podcasting.

Utilizing one of the most advanced video walls in the world, enhancing the visual experience of the podcast.

Incorporating real-time adjustments and lighting fixes to adapt to the unique challenges of filming in virtual environments.

The use of a curved LED wall, introducing new technical difficulties such as image warping.

Implementing a live-switching situation with OBS, managing multiple camera angles and environments simultaneously.

Creating a dynamic podcast atmosphere with changing scenes and lighting, affecting the energy and flow of conversations.

Overcoming technical challenges like syncing aperture fixtures with the blackout app for seamless transitions.

Designing podcast environments with references, allowing for more control and immersive experiences.

The importance of the crew's professionalism in handling the complex and sleep-depriving production process.

Celebrating podcast milestones, such as crossing a billion midpoints and 10th anniversary, marking significant achievements.

Integrating high production value into the podcast, setting a new standard for the industry.

The unique experience of being a guest in a highly technical and elaborate podcast setup, offering a rare opportunity.

Addressing the potential criticisms of shifting from the purity of talk to a more visually focused broadcasting style.

The goal of maintaining authentic conversations while enhancing the podcast with grandeur and beautiful visuals.

Reflecting on personal growth and transitions, from nobody to a micro-niche influencer, sharing the journey with the audience.

Transcripts

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big day big day man so we've been

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planning this for probably about two

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months now to try and

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do what is essentially I think a world

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first five camera virtual video wall

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podcast and I've had Atia Ferris Dr Kane

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Mr ballan orbiting for a little while

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and I thought right they're all in or

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near Texas we might as well pull the pen

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and uh I haven't seen what's going on I

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haven't seen any of the complications if

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you watched the last Vlog that we did in

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La you'll know that just filming things

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in the real world can often come with

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quite a lot of complications so trying

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to film something with I think a total

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of maybe 16 virtual environments on one

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of the most advanced video walls in the

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world whilst also trying to light and

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shoot all of the rest of the stuff and

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also trying to have a conversation um

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many things may go wrong this week but

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uh I'm excited this is the most excited

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I've been for one of these Cinema shoots

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I I really love trying to do something

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different and cool and it may be a total

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catastrophe but it'll be a good story

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and you're going to get to watch it

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unfold I genuinely think this might

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break people's brains heck yeah I'm

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excited I think it's a really cool way

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to visually kind of bu up Podcast yeah

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me too so when Chris reached out to us

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and said I've got this incredible vision

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for a podcast we were like wo we've

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actually never done a podcast at this

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magnitude here so uh he came in with a

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lot of different ideas a lot of

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different uh production value I think

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that was going to bring to uh his

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platform this one's definitely been

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difficult because it was a really quick

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turn and there's like 12 different

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environment so normally there's a person

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running a wall and there's also a person

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building and I've been doing both we

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have like an OBS or like a live

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switching situation here so it's just

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like it could skip it could dip to Black

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it could I understand what you mean yeah

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uh the only thing I mean you know

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yesterday and you did it three times

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perfectly but I think let's for today

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let's keep it A's less of a we've only

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got two scenes and we're going to cycle

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through them both and it's 20 minutes on

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each which is cool segments tend to be

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around about 10 minutes or so this

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project has come with some new

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challenges as we've never done something

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at this uh level for podcasting before I

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understand that we're trying to do a lot

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technically this week so couple things

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one is that we usually design with one

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camera in mind this one has five for our

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five camera shoot there weren't points

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of interest where we needed them to be

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and the lighting was way off we throw it

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up on the wall we frame up we see how it

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looks and then we got to take it down

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make all those changes throw it back up

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test it the wall is typically used as a

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3D uh view port a window into the 3D

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World and this one we're just using it

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as 2D so as you can tell the wall is

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curved and so when we throw up a 2D

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image on a curved wall you're going to

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get some stretching that comes along

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with it so as you can see here like our

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image is kind of warping this way

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because of the wall shape because we're

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not using an Unreal Engine five in real

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time we're having to warp all of our

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images back so we're having to frame out

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each section of the wall try to correct

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per camera so that's one of the

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challenges we're facing now I'm working

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closely with Zach to try to get that

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looking as close as possible to reality

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we're really tied on schedule so we're

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trying to make sure we can get through

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all the environments correct at all

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before our talent gets here and so we

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can roll on time I hope we can make it

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work we will make it

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work we're running late again

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technically making this happen this one

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especially so this scene that we're

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doing right now one of them is

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completely rendered for a video game in

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unreal 5 and that means that we need to

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stop recording and then like cut and

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then come back into some other stuff and

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all of the lights need to change so uh

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taking a bit longer to set up than we

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might have anticipated

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so feeling the pressure it'll be all

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right where's the projector that's a

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screen that's so

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that's all powered it's all lit from

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behind those are all individual mixes so

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that's that wheel and that smoke is

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going to be turning for like while we're

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recording birds are going to be flying

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around wow this is more impressive than

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being at a a nice TV studio um not just

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because of obviously the number of

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cameras but this is this is cool and I

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don't know that people can appreciate it

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from where they are but it's as I

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learned these are LEDs this is not a

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projector Peter's building a

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studio I'm not sure he's chosen the

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right day to take advice about how to do

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like a nice low lift low complexity

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podcast

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Studio apple and Charlie

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[Music]

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1 I found when it went from dark to

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light I was like ah like I've got a

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little there's a little something going

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on that it's cool man it's really cool

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obviously when you're recording usually

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nothing change apart from maybe the Sun

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going in and going out but as you sat

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down when the scenes move the energy

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changes between both of you today was

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fun man I mean it was a bit stressful

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because it took quite a while for us to

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get cracking and I don't want to waste

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the guest's time and you're kind of

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getting a little bit anxious and wanting

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to get started and stuff but it's wild

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having the environment change while

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you're in it it's crazy because it

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really do and the lights also all change

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to match the colors of the background

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and it gets this specifically cuz this

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one's super light and then the museum is

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really dark I have no idea if this is

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going to look good on camera I literally

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have no

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idea hardcore sports teams and they um

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love their

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beans Boston yes Bostonian nice

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yeah yeah

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it's just have a look at it on

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the the

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lens yeah yeah I have every color of

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Zara t-shirt that they make every single

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one of them and they've stopped doing

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this one Zara bring this color back

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please is there a world where anything

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needs to be back there maybe

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not I tried um they're just detail this

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so one of the challenges we're facing

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right now is some of our aperture

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fixtures aren't talking to our blackout

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app on this

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crmx so we're trying to do is reset some

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things update some firmware so that we

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can get it all connected cuz we're

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swapping in between scenes and a single

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interview so we're not cutting so we're

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just trying to make sure that is all

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super smooth when we're moving from one

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environment to the next today is uh in

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space orbiting in space but

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because it was made for a game so it's

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got like 3D Parallax effects to it we

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basically need to shut down for 3

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minutes so the only way that we can do a

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transition that's not going to look

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totally awful is for me to tell Tim

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about like a section that I'm going to

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move us to and I'm going to ask him a

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question and then he's going to have to

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not answer and then screen's going to go

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black and also all of the lights are

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going to go black so we'll fade from

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like space to Black and then back out

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from black after 3 minutes once they run

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all of the new stuff up and then fade

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everything up and we'll be in a new

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place so I think that's the only way

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that we can do it so we're like this is

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like a live performance it's like

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threading the needle of like right Tim

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and don't forget like when I step one

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step to the left like you need to go to

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the right this is what happens when

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technology has an attitude the DMX

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system isn't working it's not talking to

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our blackout app so they can't control

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it in between the transitions do at 5

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and then we five and then we it's been a

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very very long process uh long long days

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especially for the team here here's the

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thing we're all sleep deprived and we're

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trying to function the best we can and

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if it wasn't for the crew's

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professionalism and able to just to

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stick to chorus this whole thing would

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fall apart so the crew is so

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important

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good to meet you man yeah good to meet

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you too cool setup yeah we're trying

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something a bit different this time you

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know it's not my kitchen table but it'll

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do just kidding format super fun very

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immersive I feel like I'm flying on a

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creature through Avatar at the moment it

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does change obviously uh very Dynamic

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very fun as a guest to be part of

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something this elaborate and complex cuz

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I know for sure I'm never going to do it

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myself personally so this is a rare

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opportunity to enjoy something new oh

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yeah happy 10th

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anniversary amazing thank you I've heard

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that this is your favorite podcast

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actually crossed a billion mid last year

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I haven't announced it I guess I'm

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announcing it now uh if I'm celebrating

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them both at the same time

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congratulations yeah thanks thanks

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thanks guys we're in this Avatar world

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as you can see right like we're not

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bringing all our podcast equipment out

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there come on that's ridiculous listen

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I'm just trying to make pretty pictures

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bro oh my goodness dude this is

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amazing I even like the smell wow yeah

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there's Haze in the air as well there's

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a little bit of haze towards some

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atmosphere while we're doing this this

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is super cool dude I'm glad you like it

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I'm really excited I think it adds a

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completely different energy to a

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conversation it's huge 3

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two Dr K welcome to the show CH Chris is

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awesome at having great conversations

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but it's amazing how much of a

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difference it is to be in the right

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space and feel the right energy our

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first conversation was like over the

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Internet so I was in my space he was in

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in his space and even this place

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something about the air and like The

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Greenery it feels different and it feels

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very conducive to like I don't know

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dialogue and

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exploration and like I I thought it was

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honestly just completely awesome I feel

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like a UFC fighter that's just been

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through 15 rounds today was good uh I

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think we went 3 and 1/ half hours with

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Tim 3 three and a half and then 2 hours

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with Dr K and then about an hour of ads

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it's been so much fun to do something

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that you're like wow no one's ever done

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this before there's not there's not much

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stuff you can do that other people

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haven't done before and this is one of

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them I hope it looks good I hope you're

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enjoying seeing behind the scenes and uh

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I'll see you

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tomorrow men are working rapt fixtures

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make sure that they have a Hardline DMX

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by them um so I'm running a firmware

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update I think we're going to gain back

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control those so we're going to try to

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Hardline them and I didn't sleep good

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it's weird the harder I work the worse I

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sleep which makes it more and more

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vicious but caffeine and nutonic will

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keep me going today so this is kind of

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what we actually built the entire shoot

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around and originally BM was going to be

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the first episode that we were running

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with and then we were going to have AA

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and Ferris and Dr K and we would have

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finished yesterday uh but scheduling

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meant that we had to change it so we've

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saved the most technically complex the

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one that's got the most things that

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could go wrong the thing that we spent

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the most money on and the highest

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followed guest uh last as he tells

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different stories the scenes are going

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to move so there's a degree of

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coordination that's kind of happening

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and um it's actually really fun it kind

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of feels a bit like being a performer

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but doing what I know well which is the

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conversation thing if you ask me to

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dance or Draw or

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um I'm not going to be able to do that

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but I'm really really excited for this

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we've spent so much money I mean to

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render these things in Unreal Engine 5

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it costs an awful lot of cash for

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today's shoot we are doing kind of a

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marsh land so this was the reference

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that was sent over kind of like a swampy

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feel it's a very um monochromatic type

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color and it's definitely highlighting

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these Navy Seals in like their kayaks

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like they're kind of marching through

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the Marshland so what you'll see on the

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wall here was based off of this we take

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the references and then we kind of

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compile everything that we want to

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include and it allows us a little bit

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more control it just takes even more

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time to make that happen it is a pretty

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big undertaking to do this many

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environment changes per episode

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typically we will uh set up a shot for

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one environment one location whereas

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these episodes have multiple

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environments that we're seeing so it's

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it's a new thing for our team to see I

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think so far it's been looking pretty

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good but it's definitely a big

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undertaking don't forget these guys

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usually have scripts they have have

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professional camera people there's

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actors they know what's going to happen

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next meanwhile we've literally asked

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them to repurpose their video wall into

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what a v DJ does like a video DJ would

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do dead mouse mixing tracks and being

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like Oh and when you know strobe comes

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on make sure that you change the colors

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to this thing so they've been waiting

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and watching me talk and then if I say a

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thing or the guest says a thing that

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they think is related to they've been

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great uh I've I've been unbelievably

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impressed we've gone over

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every single evening uh we've asked them

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for way more than they should do we went

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to them with a brief and they were like

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yeah no worries and made it in I think a

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few days so we owe them an awful lot so

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the scene you're you're about to see

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right here was designed by Ace who's our

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virtual production supervisor we got

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helicopters moving jets flying overhead

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um which we all be playing back in the

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podcast behind them after some notes I

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took it upon myself to redesign it last

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night and I'm just noticing I kind of

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miss something here on these trucks this

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tire goes into the ground which I don't

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know if you've ever driven a truck

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before that's not supposed to happen if

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you're seeing lines on the screen that's

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because of the Hertz rates of the LED

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wall so the LED wall set to 24 frames

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exactly so if you're any faster on your

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shutter speed you're going to see all

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these lines just roll through the screen

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if you can see on the

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screen we're individually placing each

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shot for our cameras

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so this is our wide shut so we're

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framing that and then we're also kind of

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working in all these different

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things awesome yeah decent setup huh

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needless to say this is the most

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impressive set I have ever been on I

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think I mean I'm I'm I normally film in

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my studio which is a crappy green screen

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and like my tripod and Camera cuz there

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is a lot more this is this is amazing

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good to meet you man how are you good

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I'm good man this is like insane yeah

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this is going to be special so you are

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uh the most technically complex the most

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expensive uh most things can go wrong uh

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with the most intricate lighting so uh

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hooray there we go we've got everyone's

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got their fingers crossed middle third

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your third my third but what it means is

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that they can put stuff behind you or me

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that's not like actually part of the

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render but that looks really good so

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let's say that we wanted Moon over your

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shoulder and we wanted this house they

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can just chop that pull that out you it

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almost like that yes exactly what you're

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left with is is a like cinematic piece

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of content though correct which is

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pretty amazing no one's doing that in

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podcasting at least not at that the

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level you're doing right now I don't

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think so I think because you've already

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established the Baseline of like

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authenticity adding production to it

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does not jeopardize the shows like yeah

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it doesn't feel like uh it's all uh

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style and no substance because you've

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already invested 750 episodes before

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You' tried to do a video walk this isn't

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me trying to replace the reason that I

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started doing the show right I I will

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happily talk to some dusty academic with

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a unpronouncable surname from some

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University you've never heard of from

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the spare room in my house all day but I

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also want to do this and I've been

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really excited there's a lot of

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criticism about sterile transactional

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boring communication and one thing I can

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definitely say is that this week has not

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been boring and really during the the

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recording I felt like the mood changed

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every time the scene changed it really

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felt like where you are is now different

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you know the the military scene that was

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in there it felt like it just went on

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forever out here in my peripheral it

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really seemed like it just went out it

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just it was cool it like almost

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revitalized the conversation cuz he

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would change the the question as the

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scene was changing and so it just felt

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like oh it's like a new scene even

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though it's the same conversation so it

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definitely the energy shifted and he

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told me that would happen and it this

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was really cool this a unique

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podcast

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we did

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it

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and I told a story this is going to be

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embarrassing if I can't open it uh I

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told a story to a TIA I think about uh

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champagne that Winston Churchill had a

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customized bottle built of uh and this

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is it so I actually haven't opened any

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of this yet but he shipped me some of

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this and it arrived yesterday so oh

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we've got to save it for an occasion but

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what more of an occasion is there than

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spending a deposit on a house on a video

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shoot for 3 days so here we

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are I will

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get I'm so glad that that wasn't pointed

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at something expensive Winston

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Churchill's champagne in plastic cups

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thank you very much for all of your

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efforts this week it's been unbelievably

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intense and I know that I've made you

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work very hard thank you cheers cheers

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Che it took us 5 and 1 half years and

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600 episodes a th000 videos to hit a

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million subs and it's taken 9 months and

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150 episodes to hit 2 million Subs I

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think when this drops this will be

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around about 2 million Subs but I mean

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God go back and listen to the first

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episode that I did in my old office in

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New Castle Upon Time with a single Yeti

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microphone balanced in the middle of the

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table talking to Stu Morton my friend

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from the gym who was going to row the

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Atlantic solo I say mhm every other

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sentence because I didn't learn that

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nodding silently was a thing that I

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could do in a podcast and I'm now on the

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biggest video wall in Texas filming with

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Tim Ferris literally a pod father the

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guy that taught me how to release a

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podcast before he knew who I was seven

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years ago

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and it's cool it's a cool Arc I feel

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like this has been a nice a really sort

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of nice occasion to bring things into

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land you are observing me go through a

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moderately big transition I think at the

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moment in life um you know this is going

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to be the next phase now I moved out to

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Austin two years ago I didn't really

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know is this going to be the thing is

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this going to work moved out on my own

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to a brand new country to try and you

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know talk to people on the internet and

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accidentally turned into a

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career I also understand that champagne

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problems uh too much attention is not

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exactly something that I am worthy maybe

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of any sympathy for and there's people

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that have got it way worse and all the

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rest of the stuff but I'm trying to be

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as open and honest as possible about

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what the experience of going from

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absolute nobody to like Micro Niche

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degenerate influencer Fame whatever

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wherever it is that I'm at now and

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if if it was me as a fan of a show like

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this I would want to know what it's like

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and I hope that it comes across that way

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this isn't me trying to Humble brag

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about like oh look at how much attention

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I get or whatever I don't I don't get

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that much attention thankfully because

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you guys seem to be uh unreasonably

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reasonable and um not obsessive in any

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of the bad ways and like supportive in

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most of the good ways as well which is I

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think the perfect balance but that I can

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see that changing you know the episode

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that you'll hear with Tim we talk an

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awful lot about the Perils of Fame and

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about why he's you know purposefully

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sort of

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defamed himself he's made himself less

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recognizable so that is four episodes in

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3 days first ever Five camera shoot on

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this volume the largest volume in Texas

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maybe the first ever virtual video wall

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podcast that's been done like this ever

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haven't seen anything on the back of the

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lens I have no idea if this is going to

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look even remotely realistic or cool or

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beautiful or whatever I know I it's

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really fed up this week I've been really

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really excited and I understand as well

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there's a Justified criticism which is I

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don't care about how it looks I'm just

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here for the conversation uh stop trying

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to return something that was supposed to

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be about the purity of a talk into TV

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which was the exact thing that

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everybody's trying to go away from and

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there's kind of this anti-mainstream

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media thing and I'm don't get me wrong

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like I'm a part of it but I think that

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there is utility in Beauty and I think

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that if I can maintain the purity of the

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conversation whilst adding Grandeur and

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occasion and gorgeous visuals to

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something which you already enjoy for

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the people who want that I think it's

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really cool hopefully it brings joy to

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you hopefully it helps you learn about

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yourself and the world around you

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hopefully it makes you feel less alone

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or less personally cursed with the

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things that you're dealing with because

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of the openness of me or the insights

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that you learn from the guests I'm going

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to try and enjoy the next million Subs

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as much as possible that's the goal have

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as much fun over the next million Subs

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as I can I really appreciate apprciate

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you hopefully this has been interesting

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to see as a fly on the wall what we've

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done and hopefully the episodes come out

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cool and if they don't I have blown a

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house deposit on uh giving myself an

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answer that I don't need to answer again

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all

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