Psilocybin and Seeing God
Summary
TLDREl guion explora la idea del estado psicológico profundo que se convierte en social, citando a Tolstoy y su influencia en Gandhi. Se discute la experiencia de concierto como un ejemplo de unidad y armonía, y cómo esto puede abarcar a las personas a nuestro alrededor. Se menciona la posibilidad de una experiencia trascendental que sugiere la inmortalidad y se habla de experimentos con psilocibina en hospitales que han reducido el miedo a la muerte en pacientes con cáncer. El guion reflexiona sobre la verdad subjetiva y objetiva, y cómo la ciencia busca respuestas universales. También se abordan las diferencias en las creencias religiosas sobre la vida después de la muerte y los peligros de enfocarse en la vida eterna o en la vida presente, con una crítica a los transhumanistas y su obsesión por la inmortalidad.
Takeaways
- 📚 El estado psicológico profundo puede influir en el estado social, como menciona Tolstoy en 'El reino de Dios está dentro de nosotros', que influenció a Gandhi en su filosofía de resistencia no violenta.
- 🎶 La experiencia de unidad y armonía en un concierto puede ser tan profunda que afecta a las personas a nuestro alrededor, similar a la idea del 'reino de Dios' que Cristo habló.
- 🧘 La equilibrada experiencia de bienestar y significado puede ser beneficiosa tanto para los cercanos como para los lejanos, como se describe en el estado de equilibrio panequilibrado.
- 🌟 La idea del 'Stairway to Heaven' representa una estructura de significado que, al estar bien organizada, beneficia a todos los niveles de existencia.
- 👽 La experiencia de una acumulación de significado puede llevar a una intuición de inmortalidad, algo que se refleja en las especulaciones metafísicas sobre el cielo.
- 🍄 Los experimentos con psilocibina en John's Hopkins hospital muestran que las experiencias místicas pueden reducir el miedo a la muerte en personas con cáncer terminal.
- 🤔 La verdad es subjetiva y puede variar de persona a persona; lo que es verdadero para uno puede no serlo para otro, lo que plantea cuestiones sobre la objetividad de la verdad.
- 🧪 La ciencia busca respuestas objetivas y generalizables, como la efectividad de la meditación en reducir niveles de estrés en un porcentaje significativo de la población.
- 🏛 La interpretación del 'Reino de Dios' varía entre las religiones, y aunque algunos se enfocan en la vida después de la muerte, otros, como el judaísmo, priorizan la vida presente.
- 🛠 Los riesgos de la inmortalidad tecnológica y la transformación radical de la existencia humana pueden llevar a perder la esencia de lo que significa ser humano.
- 🌐 La decisión de Arabia Saudita de no vender petróleo exclusivamente en dólares puede afectar la dominancia económica de los EE. UU. y el valor del dólar.
Q & A
¿Qué relación existe entre el estado psicológico y el estado social según el guion?
-El guion sugiere que un estado psicológico lo suficientemente profundo puede influir en el estado social, transformándose en un estado social colectivo.
¿Qué libro de Tolstoy menciona el guion y cómo influenció a Mahatma Gandhi?
-El guion menciona el libro 'El Reino de Dios está dentro de nosotros', que tuvo una influencia significativa en Mahatma Gandhi y su filosofía de resistencia no violenta.
¿Cómo se relaciona la experiencia de un concierto con el concepto del 'Reino de Dios' según el guion?
-Según el guion, una experiencia de concierto profundamente unificadora y armoniosa puede, si es lo suficientemente intensa, extenderse más allá del individuo y afectar a las personas a su alrededor, similar al concepto del 'Reino de Dios'.
¿Qué es el estado de equilibrio panequilibrado mencionado en el guion y cómo se relaciona con la experiencia de vida?
-El estado de equilibrio panequilibrado se refiere a una situación en la que las cosas funcionan bien para uno y, al mismo tiempo, se estructuran de manera beneficiosa para las personas cercanas y distantes, maximizando el bienestar colectivo.
¿Por qué el guion sugiere que las experiencias de vida profundas pueden dar una intuición de inmortalidad?
-El guion indica que cuando las experiencias de vida están bien estructuradas y profundas, pueden llevar a una sensación de continuidad y existencia más allá de la vida terrenal, lo que se asocia con la idea de inmortalidad.
¿Cómo están relacionadas las experiencias trascendentales con las especulaciones metafísicas sobre la realidad del cielo?
-Según el guion, las experiencias trascendentales, que a menudo incluyen percepciones de inmortalidad y lugares celestiales, son reflejo de experiencias embebidas que dan lugar a especulaciones metafísicas sobre la existencia del cielo.
¿Qué ha demostrado la investigación de John's Hopkins con psilocibina en pacientes con cáncer terminal?
-La investigación de John's Hopkins ha mostrado que el uso de psilocibina en pacientes con cáncer terminal puede inducir experiencias místicas que disminuyen significativamente su miedo a la muerte.
¿Cómo se relaciona el concepto de 'verdad' en el guion con las preferencias personales y las creencias?
-El guion plantea que la 'verdad' puede ser subjetiva y variar de persona a persona, como en las preferencias por distintos tipos de chocolate o la elección de la mejor canción de rock, y que la ciencia busca hallar verdades universales.
¿Cuál es la diferencia entre el enfoque de la vida inmediata y el enfoque en la vida después de la muerte según el guion?
-El guion destaca que el enfoque en la vida inmediata puede ser más moral y significativo, mientras que el enfoque en la vida después de la muerte puede llevar a abandonar la vida terrenal y sus responsabilidades.
¿Qué implicaciones tiene el cambio en el acuerdo del petrodolar con Estados Unidos para la economía global y el valor del dólar estadounidense?
-El cambio en el acuerdo del petrodolar puede debilitar el valor del dólar estadounidense si hay menos demanda, lo que puede afectar la economía global y la dominancia económica de Estados Unidos.
¿Cómo el guion aborda el tema de la inmortalidad tecnológica y su relación con la identidad humana?
-El guion cuestiona si la transformación tecnológica radical para lograr la inmortalidad no sería una forma de muerte, ya que la identidad humana original podría perderse en el proceso.
¿Qué es el concepto de 'finitud de la vida' y cómo se discute en el guion en relación con la vida extendida?
-El guion considera si la vida está estructurada de tal manera que su finitud es necesaria y no debe ser superada sin pensar en las consecuencias, cuestionando si una vida extendida sería verdaderamente deseable.
Outlines
🌟 Experiencia Profunda y Estado Social
El primer párrafo explora la idea de que un estado psicológico profundo puede convertirse en un estado social, citando la obra de Tolstoy 'El Reino de Dios está dentro de nosotros', que influenció a Mahatma Gandhi en su filosofía de resistencia no violenta. Se discute cómo una experiencia de un concierto puede ser profunda tanto individual como socialmente, y cómo el 'Reino de Dios' de Cristo podría referirse a una experiencia de unidad y armonía. Se menciona la idea de un estado de equilibrio y significado profundo que beneficia a los demás, y cómo la experiencia de este estado puede dar una sensación de inmortalidad. También se toca la posibilidad de inducir experiencias trascendentales con sustancias como el psilocibina, y cómo estas pueden reducir el miedo a la muerte en pacientes con cáncer terminal.
🌍 El Reino de Dios en la Tierra y la Inmortalidad
El segundo párrafo continúa la discusión sobre el 'Reino de Dios', sugiriendo que puede ser una experiencia inmersiva y significativa que trasciende lo individual y afecta el entorno. Se especula sobre si una experiencia profunda y armoniosa podría alterar la percepción del tiempo y el espacio. Se contrastan las visiones del más allá en las religiones de Judáica, Cristiana e Islámica, y se señala la evolución de la atención hacia la vida después de la muerte en el cristianismo. Se discute la posibilidad de que la vida eterna no sea solo un concepto, sino una experiencia directa que puede ser inducida por la ciencia, y se cuestiona la idea de la verdad en el contexto de experiencias personales y científicas.
🛠️ La Perspectiva del Transhumanismo y la Longevidad
El tercer párrafo aborda el tema del transhumanismo y la búsqueda de la inmortalidad, con una reflexión personal sobre la ambivalencia hacia la prolongación de la vida y la juventud. Se menciona la obsesión de algunos con la vida eterna y se cuestiona si es deseable o no, considerando las implicaciones de perder la esencia humana. Se habla de la importancia de vivir una vida plena y significativa en lugar de simplemente prolongarla, y se plantea la idea de que la finitud de la vida puede ser necesaria. Se concluye con una consideración sobre cómo la tecnología y la ciencia pueden cambiar nuestra comprensión de lo que significa ser humano, y si la transformación radical de nuestra existencia sería una forma de muerte.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Estado psicológico
💡Reino de Dios
💡Experiencia mística
💡Inmortalidad
💡Psilocibina
💡Transhumanismo
💡Singolaridad
💡Meditación
💡Experiencia cercana a la muerte
💡Verdad
💡Religión y vida después de la muerte
Highlights
The psychological state of profound unity and harmony can become a social state, influencing the people around you.
Tolstoy's book 'The Kingdom of God is Within Us' influenced Mahatma Gandhi and their correspondence.
Gandhi's adoption of nonviolent resistance was partly due to Tolstoy's influence.
Christ's concept of the 'Kingdom of God' may relate to a profound psychological and social state of harmony.
The idea of a pan-equilibrated state where personal meaning benefits those around you is discussed.
Metaphysical speculations about Heaven and immortality are linked to embodied experiences.
Psilocybin experiments at Johns Hopkins hospital show mystical experiences can reduce fear of death in cancer patients.
Different interpretations of 'Heaven' exist in various religious traditions, with Judaism focusing less on the afterlife.
Christianity's shift towards a focus on the afterlife is contrasted with a focus on moral duties in the present.
The potential dangers of focusing on immediate life transformation versus afterlife are discussed.
The concept of 'stacked meaning' and its potential to warp time and space is explored.
Transhumanism and the pursuit of immortality may lead to a loss of what it means to be human.
The importance of finitude in life and the potential downsides of radically extending human life are considered.
The dichotomy between striving for eternal life and accepting the natural cycle of life and death.
Ray Kurzweil's personal quest for immortality and its psychological implications are examined.
The philosophical question of whether life's value is diminished by the pursuit of indefinite extension.
The impact of Saudi Arabia ending the petrodollar deal with the US on the global economy and the US dollar's value.
The promotion of diversifying savings into gold as a safeguard against economic instability.
Transcripts
if a psychological state becomes
profound enough it starts to become a
social State and so I would say that
that that kingdom of God that's within
which is something Tolstoy wrote a lot
about by the way that was a a book that
was he wrote a book called the kingdom
of God is within us and that profoundly
influenced Mahatma Gandhi by the way and
they had a lengthy correspondence which
was part of the reason that Gandhi
became a non um used nonviolent
resistance right in his fight against
the English which is quite interesting
but I think that there is there is
there's look look it's it's something
like
this maybe when you go to a concert it's
a great concert and you're having a very
profound psychological experience of of
unity and Harmony which of course is
what you get at a concert but if the
experience is profound enough
psychologically and individually it also
starts to Encompass and envelop the
people around you and so I think the
kingdom of God that Christ was talking
about was something like this is why I
like Jean P so much it's something like
the pan equilibrated state where things
are working out really well for you and
you're deeply immersed in a meaningful
experience but at the same time that
meaning is structured so that it's
maximally beneficial for the people who
are immediately around you and for the
people who are distally related to you
and so everything Stacks up and some
that's some that's that's something like
the idea of the ladder to heaven or The
Stairway to Heaven that everything's
stacking up properly and then there's a
there is see I think when people
experience that and this is where the
metaphysics touches the materal material
I think that when yes exactly that
precisely that yes precisely that them
in well you notice that the demons are
upside down going down right right which
is exactly right that that's that's
exactly the right way to conceptualize
it so I think that when people have an
experience of that stacking of meaning
that they also have an intimation of
immortality that goes along with that
that's embodied and that that's partly
why the metaphysical speculations about
the reality of the om of Heaven have
emerged because it's not just conceptual
right there there is embodied experience
and people report the same thing when
they have transcendental experiences of
various sorts and those and we know from
a scientific perspective that those can
be very reliably induced with the use of
Agents like psilocybin and you know I've
been really fascinated by what's been
happening at John's Hopkins hospital
with the psilocybin experimenters
because one of the most recent things
they showed was that if you take people
dying of cancer and you give them cybin
and they have a mystical experience
which is something like an experience of
the kingdom of God on Earth but also
eternally at the same time that they
lose their fear of death or that at
least it's much modified and you know
that's a hell of a finding that's really
you can't just you can't just walk away
from that easily because that's a hell
of a thing to to treat well yeah I I
have a chapter on that in in Heavens on
Earth on near-death experiences um and
so but we're talking about two different
things um you know the the transitioning
from life to death in the most pain-free
or anxiety reduced state is is more is
progress uh you know medical progress
psychological progress or whatever and
I'm all for you know it's silos cybin
does it or whatever um then great we
should do that but there's a lot of
people that claim more than that that
this is opening the doors of perception
into another world right actually out
there and that those of us have have not
taken acid we just simply can't know so
now we now we get at this question of
Truth you know it's one of my columns in
scientific americ was I recently wrote
called what is truth anyway I mean when
I say like I prefer do dark chocolate
and you prefer milk chocolate you know
there's no truth that is to be
discovered yours is true for you mine's
true for me or I say Stairway to Heaven
is the greatest rock song of all time
and you say no no free bird is better
than Stairway to Heaven we argue about
that but there's no there's no
experiment we're going to run and so as
we start to move along these lines like
when deepo joper tells me meditation
works okay so if it works for you or it
doesn't work for me okay those are still
in that state of internal truths but
what we want to know in science is does
it work for everybody or you know 67% of
people that do an hour of meditation a
day under these conditions have reduced
uh stress hormones and blood pressure
and so on in some measurable way way
that's different than just an internal
state so uh when we're talking about
again just you know you know working on
toward toward striving to better
ourselves or some kind of Heaven if you
mean just you know metaphorically so
that I can better myself that's
different than There's an actual place
you can go to uh that's going to be
there after we die and so I think this
is where you know scientist you also
start you also start messing about with
the idea of place in a way that that
that's the problem with having
discussions about fundamental realities
and you know when you said another thing
that Christ said was that the Kingdom of
Heaven is spread upon Earth but men do
not see it right so and that's that's
something that's akin to the idea of the
kingdom of God is within you although
it's it's a strange Twist on it because
it also adds an element of externality
or physicality to it and an element of
immediatey not something that's
forestalled into the future but I wonder
see in my Wilder moments of spec ation I
I have this notion that if things stack
up properly so imagine that you're
immersed in a very deeply meaningful
experience and and it and it's it's
operating it's indicating that Harmony
has been established between multiple
levels of being simultaneously I wonder
if that can I wonder if that can put you
in a place that's profound enough or
deep enough so that the structure of
time and space itself still starts to
warp around that I mean I know that
that's a i i can't formulate it well but
there's there's something there's
something about it that seems to me to
be correct about that because people
have inations of of immortality and they
have intimations of of of heavenly and
hellish abodes as well and they're not
they're not the simp they're not the
simple kind of rational even rational
fundamentalist beliefs that often people
talk about when they're discussing
religious belief they're more reflected
in direct experience and it's not easy
to make sense of them well when you
delve into the literature on Judaism
Christianity and Islam and their
versions of the afterlife in heaven
they're quite different and the Jews are
far less obsessed with going some place
after death in fact originally they had
they were going no place at all sh was
just nothing it was just you returned to
where you were before you were alive
just no place uh and so but so that that
religion is far more focused on the here
and now like we have a moral duty to
help people the poor and so on now and
to live better lives and more lives of
dignity and honor and morality now and
and Christianity really started off more
like that then kind of morphed over the
the centuries and particularly in
fundamentalists and evangelicals in the
20th century toward this place we're
going to go right right after we die
yeah you kind of have the Schism in
Christianity today between the kind of
the the fundamentalists that that that
are constantly talking about the
afterlife and accepting Jesus and
they're focused on missionary working
and converting people versus say maybe
the Rick Warren of the world that want
to put their money into soup kitchens
and helping the poor and and and and
Christians have a moral duty to you know
help those in need and and not so much
focused on the next life and yeah well
and it's funny a because there there are
real dangers associated with both those
kinds of conceptualizations I mean you
alluded to one danger that was
associated with let's call those who are
concerned more with the immediate
present
and that's the that's starting to
manifest itself in these in these U
technological immort immortalists
they're saying well we should transform
the nature of being extraordinarily
radically right here and now so that we
have heaven and immortality here you
think well what do we lose by doing that
you know and and that's a question
that's really worth asking because if
we're transhuman then we lose Being
Human and it may be that we actually
don't want to lose Being Human even
though being human means suffering and
malevolence something like that it's a
very hard question but then the
Christians this is what where n went
after the Christians with such an act he
said well if you despise the the current
world and you leave everything to be
rectified in the afterlife then you just
abandon life itself and you're really
traitors to life right so how how to
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today well this the meage my message in
the book to to the singularitarians and
the cryonics and transhumanists and so
on is um you know I'm glad you're
working on this problem you know but you
because they say shmer don't you want to
live to be a thousand years and my
response is look just get me to 90
without you know Cancer and a 100
without Alzheimer's and 110 without
being plugged into machines and lying in
a bed because that's not a life and and
so and so I'm glad people are working on
like what's the best diet how much
sleep what what can we do to improve our
memory and so on that's all great and
and and and I'm glad power to them and
I'm glad kurile is now that you know
chief engineer of all Google I mean he's
got some resources to do something about
this but but this focus on living a
thousand years you're Miss first of all
you're get you may miss the little
incremental things we can do but also
you're missing out now there's this fail
I WR about out in the book um on Ray
kerswell it's a little kind of
biographical film of him uh called
Transcendent man and he's constantly
talking about you know living forever
and so on and he's obsessed with his
father his father died when he was 51
the father was 51 and Ry was you know
kind of missed out having a father
figure because the father was always
working and Ry was uh you know a real
entrepreneur achiever from his teenage
years so he was always working and the
fil kind of follows him around
collecting everything he can about his
father and he keeps it in the basement
of his house and he wants to resurrect
his father in a computer and it's like
oh boy Freud would have a field day with
this I'm not aan guy but there's
something there's something going on
there this sort of morose focus on I see
this this this strange dichotomy and
attitude that you just described even
characterizing you I see that in my own
life because I'm very interested in
technologies that Stave off aging
dietary manipulations and I have this
machine in my basement that's a an
intense pulse light L uh intense pulse
light machine that's unbelievable skin
rejuvenator like it's it's an absolute
Miracle this machine and it'll takes
it'll take sun damage from your skin
completely and and force Rejuvenation
it's like it's it's like using Photoshop
on your skin it's amazing and but on but
and so I think well isn't it interesting
to do everything possible to prolong
Youth and life but at the same time
there's another part of me that's
thinking
well this is something I wrote about in
in in in in this new book that I'm
publishing um I was thinking about
Socrates and his ability to accept his
death you know and and what Socrates
seems to have revealed in his acceptance
of his death was that if you live your
life properly then you youve may be you
lived your life in some sense you've
exhausted it in some sense and the
question is if you if you lived a
thousand years well what exactly what
what exactly would you do you know like
I've had kids and I I loved having kids
but I wouldn't have them again like I
wouldn't do that again I don't think and
I have a grandchild and that's fine but
that's a new thing and like I've had a
career and I as I get older the idea of
having 10 more careers
seems it's not like I'm not interested
in it but it it doesn't grip me the same
way that it would have say 20 years ago
and so I wonder like I wonder if it is
the case that life is in some
sense structured so that its finitude is
necessary and not something that should
be well casually transcended let's say
well the transhumanist would respond to
that uh that you're just used to this
idea of only living 80 90 years and and
then you're done that we would adjust to
that well maybe the other problem yeah
the question would be though who would
be the we that would adjust to that
because well yes you would no longer
okay to get there we we would really no
longer be human there the idea of the
transhumanist and the
singularitarianism
that up you know and and put chips in
your cortex and you'd essentially have
Wikipedia in your brain in for instant
access and so and and so would truly
bring new meaning to what it means to be
human okay right yes well and then
that's you could also argue that that's
a form of death because if you transform
yourself so radically that you're
unrecognizable then what where's the
continuity with what you once were
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