Tory Minister Gets Challenged Over Her Brexit Fibs!

Summary

The transcript covers a debate between an interviewer and UK politician Kemi Badenoch about the effectiveness of post-Brexit trade deals. Badenoch makes several misleading claims about UK manufacturing overtaking France and the economic benefits of joining CPTPP. The interviewer challenges her assertions with facts. They debate whether future US trade deals depend on presidential administration or Congressional approval, with the interviewer arguing the UK no longer holds the negotiating cards. Overall, it critiques Badenoch and Brexiteers for overstating trade deals' benefits and not admitting their failures.

Takeaways

• 😡 Badock resorts to lies and evasion when questioned on lack of major trade deals post-Brexit
• 😠 Badock falsely claims UK manufacturing has overtaken France
• 🤥 Badock repeats debunked Brexit promises on trade deals and global power
• 😒 Majority of UK trade deals signed so far just continuity deals, not new ones
• 🙄 Badock credits Brexit for post-pandemic recovery, not valid comparison
• 😟 CPTPP trade deal adds little economic benefit for UK
• 😒 US-UK trade deal stalled under both Trump and Biden presidencies
• 😠 Badock shifts blame for lack of US deal, despite 'taking back control'
• 😒 Badock hopes Trump victory could revive trade talks, but Congress holds cards
• 😟 Potential US deal risks lower standards for UK consumers

Q & A

What portfolio does Kemi Badenoch hold in Rishi Sunak's cabinet?

Kemi Badenoch is the Business Secretary in Rishi Sunak's cabinet.

What accusation does the narrator make about Boris Johnson's appointments?

The narrator accuses Boris Johnson of deliberately appointing incompetent people to positions of power if they pose no threat to him as leader.

What happened when Kemi Badenoch was asked about trade deals on Sky News?

When asked about trade deals, Kemi Badenoch resorted to lies and talking over the interviewer, before falling back on mentioning the CPTPP trade deal.

What was the original forecast for the GDP boost from the CPTPP deal?

The original forecast was that the CPTPP deal would boost UK GDP by 0.08%.

What was the CPTPP GDP boost forecast later downgraded to?

The GDP boost forecast was later downgraded to just 0.04%.

What inaccurate manufacturing claim did Kemi Badenoch make?

Kemi Badenoch falsely claimed that UK manufacturing has overtaken France, when more recent data shows France is slightly ahead.

Why does the narrator say comparing UK and EU growth rates is misleading?

The narrator says comparing post-pandemic growth rates is misleading because the UK started from a lower base after being hit hard by the pandemic.

What progress had been made on a US-UK trade deal under Trump?

Some negotiating progress had been made, but no final deal was signed before Trump left office.

Who does the narrator say really holds the cards in UK-US trade talks?

The narrator says the larger US economy holds more leverage, not the UK as some Brexiteers claim.

Why does the narrator think a UK-US trade deal may not benefit the UK?

He believes it could mean accepting lower standards like hormone-treated beef that would damage UK industries.

Outlines

00:00

😃 Paragraph 1 discusses claims by UK politician K. Badock about post-Brexit trade deals.

The first paragraph analyzes statements made by UK politician K. Badock on Sky News regarding post-Brexit trade deals. It points out that her claims about the benefits of deals like CPTPP have been exaggerated according to independent analysis. She is accused of resorting to lies and talking over the host when challenged. The paragraph highlights the lack of major new trade deals secured so far compared to what was promised by Brexit supporters.

05:01

😕 Paragraph 2 highlights more false claims made by K. Badock about UK manufacturing and growth.

The second paragraph focuses on additional falsehoods stated by K. Badock during the Sky News interview. It points out misleading statistics shared about UK manufacturing outpacing France, when recent data shows the opposite. It also counters her point about UK economic growth exceeding the EU by noting the UK was starting from a lower base after the pandemic. The paragraph emphasizes the pattern of lies and lack of truth from K. Badock.

Keywords

💡brexit

Brexit refers to the United Kingdom's withdrawal from the European Union. It is a key theme in the video, as the speaker discusses the impact of Brexit on the UK's ability to secure trade deals. They argue that Brexit has not delivered the promised benefits in terms of new global trade deals for the UK.

💡trade deals

Trade deals are agreements between countries to trade goods and services with preferential terms. Securing independent trade deals was a major motivation for Brexit. However, the speaker argues that the UK has largely only managed to replicate existing EU deals rather than secure ambitious new global deals.

💡manufacturing

Manufacturing refers to the production and fabrication of goods. The speaker accuses a Brexit supporter of falsely claiming that UK manufacturing has overtaken France's, when recent data shows France is slightly ahead. This highlights how Brexit supporters sometimes distort statistics.

💡economy

The economy refers to the system of production, distribution and consumption of goods and services in a country. The speaker disputes Brexit claims that the UK economy is strongly outperforming comparable economies like France and Germany.

💡services

Services refers to the portion of the economy that provides intangible value like banking, tourism, etc. The speaker notes that as the UK economy is 80% services, trade deals need to focus on services rather than just goods.

💡United States

The United States is highlighted as a key potential trade deal partner for a post-Brexit UK. However, the speaker notes that deals with the US have failed to materialize under both Trump and Biden.

💡Congress

Congress is the legislative branch of the US government with powers over trade policy. The speaker notes that Congress, not the president, holds the cards in negotiating any potential US-UK deal.

💡smoke and mirrors

This refers to deceptive claims or strategies. The speaker accuses Brexit supporters of using smoke and mirrors tactics to exaggerate the benefits of Brexit trade deals.

💡cards

Holding the cards refers to having negotiating leverage or advantage. The speaker disputes Brexit claims that the UK holds all the cards in securing new trade deals.

💡standards

Standards refer to regulations that ensure quality, safety etc. The speaker worries a US trade deal could force the UK to lower its standards for products like food.

Highlights

The business secretary blamed Brexit failures on imaginary people.

The business secretary lied about UK manufacturing overtaking France.

The business secretary dodged questions about lack of major new trade deals.

The UK economy is mostly services, not manufacturing.

Growth forecasts show CPTPP adds little GDP benefit for UK.

UK manufacturing has since fallen below France again.

UK growth only looks good compared to pandemic low point.

Trump didn't deliver a US-UK trade deal despite promises.

Larger economies hold more cards in trade deals.

Congress, not president, negotiates and approves US trade deals.

UK-US trade deal risks lower standards like hormone beef.

Trump was president 4 years without a US-UK trade deal.

Brexiteers view any trade deal as a benefit, ignoring costs.

Congress key to any US-UK trade deal, not the president.

Brexiteers falsely claim US trade deal depends on president.

Transcripts

hi guys the business secretary isn't the

sharpest politician in Rishi Sonic's

cabinet but then I still believe that

people like him Boris Johnson and Li

trust deliberately put people in

positions of power that were incompetent

but provided no real threat to the

leader badok the brexiteer was asked

when she appeared on Sky News about

trade deals and the benefit of them she

resorted to lies and talking over the

host then she fell back onto the Old

Reliable

cptpp which was recently downgraded by

an independent body to adding just

0.04% to UK GDP it didn't go well you

know we were promised uh the best part

of eight years ago that brexit would

allow us to become a global power

particularly a global trading power

we've signed I think 70 deals now but

they're pretty much all what they call

rollover deals uh essentially what we

had before uh when we were in the EU but

they're very few New Deals and some of

the ones that we have signed with small

Partners like New Zealand responsible

for I think 2/10 of 1% of our trade um

we're not doing very well in signing all

the new trade deals are we we are doing

very well and that is not this that is

not quite this the story of what is

going on yes we immediately signed uh

about 73 uh trade deals on leaving

people said that we wouldn't get any of

those done and that what people we keep

hearing this argument from brexiteers

and her in particular people said that

we wouldn't be able to sign any trade

deals what people do these people have

any names because I remember at the time

saying yeah you can sign a trade deal if

the other country is willing to do it or

if you're willing to give away

everything as we saw when it came to

Australia and New Zealand if you give

away everything of course the cont yeah

sure we'll sign a trade deal with you

but uh if you want a good trade deal

then you need to invest time and effort

if you just want a piece of paper to

deliver to to Parliament to hold up and

say look we have a trade deal well then

yeah and you give away everything then

you can achieve that pretty quickly that

we were going to go backwards so we

succeeded in that but we

have I need to finish I need to finish

the I need to finish the the the answer

yes those some of those would have been

the same before but even then people

said that we couldn't do them but there

are some new ones like uh the

comprehensive and Progressive

transpacific partnership cptpp is huge

the

Indo you do most of your trade with your

neighbors we already know according to

Independent bodies that the increase in

GDP as a direct result of cptpp was

downgraded from

0.08% to

0.04% this is not some sort of

alternative to EU membership this is not

an alternative to being in the single

Market it adds very little now of course

and this is a forecast this is not

what's happening now this is a forecast

for the future what she tries to sell

another brexiteers try to sell is yes

but we're talking about the future

because the Asian economy is

growing but this forecast I believe

takes into account the growing

economy and it's still nothing even if

the the Asian economy grew by double

we're still talking about

0.08% of GDP add added to the UK economy

which is nothing

Pacific is where Global growth is going

to be coming from European growth is

shrinking and we are strengthening our

links with those countries on the other

side uh on the other side of the world

and our economy is 70 to 80% Services we

are not a Goods based economy and that

means that the deals which we sign need

to reflect the nature of the UK economy

we have overtaken France in

manufacturing our okay then here is

where we have the first lie well maybe

maybe it's not the first lie no isn't it

interesting that she said look let's not

focus on Goods let's focus on Services

because we sell most of our most of our

Trad is in services and then suddenly

she jumped to well we we're you our

manufacturing is bigger than France well

this is not true this is according to

full fact K bok's comments on UK

manufacturing success use data from 2021

just after the UK left the single market

and it says the figures while published

in September this year 2023 this was

actually refer to 2021 more recent

alternative data suggest that

Manufacturing in the UK has since Fallen

just slightly below that of France now

do you think K badok is going to correct

the record do you think she's going to

apologize for misleading the public what

do you think economy is growing faster

than Germany and France and other EU

countries when this is also another sort

of slight of hand smoke and

mirrors well our economy is growing

faster than France Germany and Italy yes

but if you're comparing

to growth after the pandemic when the UK

was in the worst position of course any

sort of growth is going to be faster

than the other other economies if you

start at the lowest point then of course

any growth is going to be faster so it

is important for people to know what the

facts are rather than the

facts you're lying to people and you're

claiming that the lies are facts focus

on a particular day in a particular

trade negotiation all right um the

biggest deal that we would want is with

the United States Mr Biden says there

won't be a trade deal anytime soon uh Mr

Trump when he was in office of course

talked about uh a deal four or five

times bigger than what we had at the

time are you looking forward to a trump

Victory uh it it is a shame that the US

current ly is not signing any free trade

agreements with any country so who's

holding the cards here this was the

brexiteer Mantra we will hold all the

cards so when Donald Trump the darling

of the conservative party you know in in

the US the darling of the right when he

was in charge there wasn't a there

wasn't a US UK trade

deal now Joe Biden is in charge there

isn't a UK a US UK trade deal whatever

way you want to put it so who holds the

cards you hold the person like the

person who wants the trade deal doesn't

always hold the cards the bigger

economy is probably the one who holds

the car so if the US says yeah we'd like

to have a trade deal with the UK then

there will be a trade deal not the other

way around I I really don't understand

why brexit heers don't understand this

we had gone uh quite a long way in terms

of negotiating a US UK uh Free Trade

Agreement as I was made to understand so

we hope that whoever it is who wins the

uh us election I have no idea who that

will be will be somebody who will look

again at the work that have been done

and hopefully we pick up where we left

off it's not dependent on the president

we've seen that

already it depends on Congress Congress

will do the negotiation and Congress

will sign off on a trade deal then it

will be passed to the president and the

president will sign off on that see this

is another thing that brexiteers are

trying to sell if Donald Trump gets into

Power then we can have a trade deal but

Donald Trump was in power for 4 years

and there wasn't a trade deal there was

negotiation but there wasn't a trade

deal signed off now I don't understand

why brexiteers also don't understand why

a trade deal with the US would not be

all not in the interest of the

UK because what are you going to see the

importation of hormone treated

beef lower standards these are the

things of course brexiteers think that

well as long as we have a trade deal

with the us we can hold it up and say

this is a brexit benefit but it's not a

brexit benefit it's not a benefit if

it's trashing your economy it's trashing

your farming sector as we've seen before

let me know in the comment section guys

what do you think as always your

comments are greatly appreciated thanks

a lot