How to Find Your Purpose | Robert Greene & Dr. Andrew Huberman

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2 Apr 202419:41

Summary

TLDRهذا الملخص يناقش الأهمية الكبيرة للهدف في توجيه حياتنا وتوفيرها مع معنى وهدف. يتحدث النص عن التحديات التي يواجهها الإنسان في تحديد المسار الصحيح من بين العديد من ال Possibilities المتاحة. ويشدد على أهمية إدراك القوة الداخلية وإيجاد المهمة الحياتية لجعل التعلم والعمل أكثر جاذبية وتركيزًا. يتضمن النص أيضا مناقشات حول الذكاء في أشكاله المتعددة وكيفية استغلاله لتطوير مسار مهني يتناسب مع الinclinations الشخصية.

Takeaways

  • 🧭 الهدف: النص يتحدث عن أهمية إيجاد الهدف الشخصي والتركيز على الenergies الهامة في المسار الصحيح.
  • 👶 الطفولة: يشدد النص على أهمية الاستماع إلى الأصوات الداخلية في الطفولة التي تشير إلى الاتجاهات العقلية والجسدية.
  • 🧠 الذكاء: يتضمن النص مراجعة لكتاب 'Five Frames of Mind' لهاروارد غاردنر، الذي يتحدث عن ال五种不同的ذكاء.
  • 🌱 التطور: يوضح النص كيف تتطور الشخصية وال兴味随着年龄的增长، مع تأثير البيئة والتعليم.
  • 💡 الإلهام: يشدد النص على أهمية ال_DETECTing_ ال兴味 المبكرة كمكون أساسي في生涯选择.
  • 🚦 التوجيه: ينصح النص بالإشارة إلى التوجيه الصحيح للأطفال من الصغر لكي يتعرفوا على ال兴味ات والقدرات الخاصة بها.
  • 🛑 الرفض: يتحدث النص عن التأثير السلبي لل勉強 ال強制ي وعدم الlove للتعلم، مما قد يؤدي إلى كراهية التعلم بشكل عام.
  • 💪 الانضباط: يشدد النص على أهمية الانضباط والcommitment في التعلم والممارسة، حتى لو كان الأمر مرهقًا.
  • 🌟 الlove: يشدد النص على الlove كمكون أساسي في الcommitment والability للتحمل الboring والtedium.
  • 🧗‍♂️ الصعود: يوضح النص أن الlove والdrive الشخصي يمكن أن يأتي من ال兴味 الإيجابية أو الdesire للescape من الأمور السلبية.

Q & A

  • ما هي الرسالة الأساسية في النص الذي يتحدث عن البشر والحياة والبحثهم عن الهدف؟

    -الرسالة الأساسية هي أن البشر يولدون بلا توجيه مسبقة وعليهم أن يجدوا الهدف في حياتهم بأنفسهم، مما يمكن أن يكون صعب ومشوشًا. ولكن بمجرد العثور على الهدف، يصبح كل شيء له توجيه وهدف، مما يعطي الشخص شغفًا ويجعل من التقدم في الحياة أكثر متعة.

  • كيف يمكن للشخص العثور على الهدف في الحياة الذي يسميه النص بـ "مهمة الحياة"؟

    -يمكن للشخص العثور على مهمة الحياة من خلال التفكير في الأحداث التي تثير شغفه في طفولته، والاستماع إلى الأصوات الداخلية التي تشير إلى ما يحبه أو يكرهه. ينصح النص بالإشارة إلى الكتب والدروس الشخصية للمساعدة في هذا الاستكشاف.

  • ما هي الأهمية الأساسية للبحث عن الهدف في الحياة؟

    -البحث الهدف في الحياة يوفر توجيهًا وهدفًا ويقلل من الشعور بالضوضاء والارتباك. يساعد على تركيز الطاقة والتركيز على الأمور التي تؤهلك الشخص ويجعل من التقدم في الحياة أكثر متعة.

  • كيف يؤثر الشعور بالضوضاء والارتباك على الشخص؟

    -الشعور بالضوضاء والارتباك يمكن أن يؤدي إلى تآكل الشخص و makes life confusing and overwhelming، مما قد يؤدي إلى تلقي قرارات غير مناسبة بسبب الضغوط المالية أو الاجتماعية.

  • ما هي الأهمية الأساسية للlove experience في النمو الشخصي؟

    -الlove experience مهمة جدًا في النمو الشخصي لأنها تعزز الشخص على التعلم والتطور ويساعد على توجيه الشخص إلى مجالات يجد فيها المتعة والشغف، مما يزيد من احتمالية النجاح وatisfaction في الحياة.

  • كيف يمكن أن تؤثر التجارب السلبية في الشخص؟

    -التجارب السلبية يمكن أن تجعل الشخص يتجنب ما يكرهه، ولكنها قد تؤدي إلى كآبة الشخص في التعلم العام إذا لم يتم التعامل معها بشكل صحيح. يجب على الوالدين والمعلمين المساعدة في تحفيز الأطفال للبحث عن ما يحبونه وفهم أسباب كراهيته.

  • ما هي ال五种不同的思维方式 التي تتحدث عنها في النص؟

    -النص يشير إلى خمسة أشكال من الذكاء، وهي: الذكاء اللفظي، الذكاء المجرد، الذكاء الجسدي، الذكاء الاجتماعي، والذكاء الحسابي. كل نوع من الذكاء يشير إلى تميل الدماغ نحو نوع معين من المعرفة والتعلم.

  • لماذا ينصح النص بالعودة إلى الطفولة للبحث عن الهدف في الحياة؟

    -النص ينصح بالعودة إلى الطفولة لأن الأطفال يمتلكون أصوات داخلية تشير إلى ما يحبونه وloathe، مما يمكن أن يكون مؤشرًا على الاتجاهات التي يجب أن تتبعها الشخص للعثور على مهمته في الحياة.

  • كيف يمكن للشخص الاستمرار في التقدم في مجاله ال如果没有 الشعور بالشغف؟

    -النص يشير إلى أن الشعور بالشغف هو ما يعطي الشخص القوة للاستمرار والتعلم والتطور، ولكن يمكن للشخص الاستمرار في التقدم من خلال التركيز على الهدف النهائي والتركيز على التقدم التدريجي.

  • ما هي الأهمية الأساسية للبحث عن الهدف في الحياة في العلوم والهندسة؟

    -النص يشير إلى أن الهدف في الحياة يمكن أن يساعد على توجيه الشخص إلى مجالاته المناسبة، مما يزيد من الإنتاجية والإبداع في العلوم والهندسة، حيث أن التركيز على الهدف يمكن أن يؤدي إلى الابتكارات والابتكارات الجديدة.

Outlines

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🌟 الهدف الشخصي: الاستكشاف والتركيز

النص يناقش التحديات المحيطة بتحديد الهدف الشخصي وكيفية العثور على المسار الصحيح في الحياة. يشير إلى أن البشر يولدون بلا توجيه محددة، مما يسبب ضوضاء وارتباك في الاختيارات. ومع ذلك، عند العثور على الهدف الشخصي، يصبح كل شيء له توجيه وهدف. يشدد على أهمية التركيز وعدم الشعور بالضوضاء، وكيف يمكن للهدف الشخصي أن يوفر التوجيه والتركيز للطاقة. ي倡导 الاستكشاف الذاتي من خلال العودة إلى الطفولة وفهم الرغبات الطبيعية والinclinations العقلية، وكيف يمكن استخدام هذه المعرفة لبناء مسار مهني.

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👶 الطفولة: البداية للاستكشاف الذاتي

يتحدث النص عن أهمية الاستماع إلى الأصوات الداخلية التي تشير إلى الاهتمامات الطبيعية والقدرات العقلية في الطفولة. يُشير إلى أن الأطفال يظهرون تميلات معينة في مهاراتهم واهتماماتهم منذ سنين صغيرة، وże هذه التميلات يمكن استخدامها كمؤشرات لتحديد ال目的 الشخصي. ويذكر مثالاً عن الأستاذ Howard Gardner وكتابه "Five Frames of Mind"، الذي يناقش ال五种不同的intelligences العقلية. ي倡导 العودة إلى الطفولة لاكتشاف هذه ال inclinations الطبيعية واستخدامها كأساس لبناء مسار حياتك.

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📚 التعليم: التأثير على التوجيه الذاتي

يناقش النص كيف يؤثر التعلم والتعليم التقليدي على القدرة على ال定向 الذاتي، حيث أن التركيز على التخصصات ال实用的 في المدرسة قد يؤدي إلى تجاهل الاهتمامات الشخصية والقدرات الغير تقليدية. يُشير إلى أن التركيز على التعلم من خلال الengagement العاطفي أكثر فعالية، وكيف يمكن أن يساعد الlove وthe hate في التوجيه الذاتي، ولكن أن الlove هو أكثر أهمية لأنه يشجع على التعلم والتطور.

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🧠 الدماغ والابتكار: الدور في التوجيه الذاتي

يناقش النص كيف يؤثر الTypeEnums العقلية والخبرات الشخصية في التوجيه الذاتي. يُشير إلى أن الTypeEnums العقلية قد تميل بالطبع إلى التركيز على أشكال معينة من المعرفة والتعلم، وأن التجارب الشخصية قد تلعب دورًا كبيرًا في التوجيه الذاتي أيضا. وي倡导 الاستكشاف الTypeEnums العقلية والاهتمامات الشخصية لمعرفة الاتجاهات المناسبة لتطوير المهارات والقدرات.

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💡الهدف

الهدف هو المفهوم الأساسية الذي يدور حول الشعور بالQUEST والعمل من أجل شيء معين. في النص، يتحدث المقدم عن أهمية إيجاد الهدف في الحياة وكيف يعطي الشخص اتجاهًا وهدفًا وتركيزًا للطاقة. مثال على ذلك هو عندما يذكر أن عند إيجاد الهدف في الحياة، تصبح كل شيء له وجهة وهدف، مما يجعله أكثر إثارة.

💡التوجيه

التوجيه هو المفهوم الذي يشير إلى المسار الصحيح الذي يجب اتباعه. في النص، يستخدم المقدم التعبير 'الرادار الداخلي' للتعبير عن الشعور بالتوجيه الصحيح في الحياة. يشدد على أنه عندما يكون لديك هذا التوجيه، يمكنك التعامل مع التشويش والبؤس بسهولة.

💡التطور الذاتي

التطور الذاتي هو عملية اكتشاف الذات وتطويرها. يشير النص إلى أن التطور الذاتي ليس عملية سريعة ولا يمكن أن تكون مجرد حلقة فورية، بل هو عملية طوالية تتطلب الاستكشاف والبحث عن الذات. يذكر المقدم أن الشخص يبدأ بالتعرف على الوجه الوحيد للفرد من خلال التجربة واستكشاف الذات.

💡العقل الخمسي

العقل الخمسي هو مفهوم يأتي من كتاب 'Five Frames of Mind' للمؤلف هوارد غاردنر. يناقش المقدم ال五种不同类型的 الذكاء: الذكاء اللفظي، الذكاء المجرد، الذكاء الجسدي، الذكاء الاجتماعي، والذكاء البيئي. يشدد على أن الدماغ يميل بشكل طبيعي إلى واحدة من هذه الأنواع، مما يشير إلى القوة الشخصية.

💡الرغبة

الرغبة هي الشعور الفعال الذي يدفع الشخص لاتخاذ إجراء معين. في النص، يشير المقدم إلى أن الرغبة يمكن أن تأتي من الشعور بالحب أو الكره، لكنه يشدد على أهمية الرغبة الإيجابية كم最能激励 الشخص لتعلم وتطور. يذكر مثالًا عن كيف الرغبة في التعلم يمكن أن تزيد من سرعة التعلم عندما تكون المشاعر متورطة.

💡التجربة المبكرة

التجربة المبكرة هي الأحداث أو المشاعر التي تحدث في سن الطفولة والتي يمكن أن تؤثر على الشخص طوال حياته. يشير النص إلى أن التجربة المبكرة يمكن أن تحدد الاتجاهات العقلية والجسدية للفرد. يذكر المقدم أن الشخص يمكن أن يجد الاتجاهات الصحيحة في الحياة من خلال العودة واستكشاف التجارب المبكرة.

💡التركيز

التركيز هو القدرة على التركيز و不分心. يستخدم المقدم التعبير 'تركيز القوة' للتعبير عن أهمية التركيز في إحداث النجاح في الحياة. يشدد على أن التركيز يأتي من الشعور بالQUEST والعمل من أجل شيء معين، مما يساعد على تجنب الشويش والبؤس.

💡التطور الشخصي

التطور الشخصي هو العملية التي يمر بها الفرد لتطوير الذات وتحقيق الهدف. يشير النص إلى أن التطور الشخصي يتطلب الاستكشاف والبحث عن الذات واكتشاف الاتجاهات العقلية والجسدية. يذكر المقدم أن التطور الشخصي يمكن أن يأتي من التجارب الإيجابية أو السلبية، لكنه يحتاج إلى الرغبة الإيجابية للتعلم.

💡الاتجاهات العقلية

الاتجاهات العقلية هي الاتجاهات التي يميل الفرد إليها بشكل طبيعي بسبب الشخصية والخبرات. في النص، يتحدث المقدم عن كيف يمكن للفرد معرفة الاتجاهات العقلية من خلال العودة إلى الطفولة واستكشاف الرغبات والمشاعر. يشدد على أن الاتجاهات العقلية هي المصدر الرئيسي للقوة الشخصية.

💡التعلم السريع

التعلم السريع هو القدرة على استيعاب المعرفة بسرعة بسبب التركيز وعدم التشويش. يشير النص إلى أن التعلم السريع يحدث عندما تكون المشاعر متورطة ويكون الشخص متحمسًا. يذكر المقدم مثالًا عن كيف تعلم اللغة بشكل أسرع عندما تكون المشاعر متورطة وتكون الشخص متحمسًا.

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Being a human being is not easy as opposed to an animal

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because we're born and nobody gives us like a direction.

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Our parents might be a little bit,

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our college teachers, et cetera, mentors,

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but generally we're on our own.

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And it's a very, very difficult process.

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You wake up in the morning

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and you don't really know what you can do.

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You could choose 12 different paths.

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It can be very confusing and very overwhelming.

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When you find that sense of purpose,

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when you find what I call your life's task,

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everything has a direction.

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Everything has a purpose.

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Your energy is concentrated.

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It's not like you're just going down

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a single narrow pathway.

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It's not like life becomes boring

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and it's just about discipline and solving problems.

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It's actually the most exciting thing

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that can ever happen to you

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because you never have that lost feeling.

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You wake up in the morning and you go,

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"Yeah, this is what I need to accomplish."

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People come at you with all kinds of distractions

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and boring and irritating things.

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You're able to cut it out.

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It's just the most marvelous piece of internal radar

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that you can have.

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So I genuinely wish that everybody can find

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that kind of internal radar.

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And so it's not easy and I understand that.

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There's no instant formula

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because we're all about instant formulas.

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It's difficult and I want you to know that

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so it's not like Robert can give me the answer

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in three minutes.

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No, I can't.

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But there's a process involved.

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It's not a mystery.

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You can follow a very singular process.

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And the idea is you're talking about childhood.

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The way I like to frame it is when you were born,

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you are a phenomenon.

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You are unique.

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Your DNA has never occurred in the history of the universe.

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Going back billions of years,

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it will never occur in the future.

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Your life experience with your parents

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and everything that you experienced

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in your early years going on up is unique.

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It's yours.

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You're one of a kind, right?

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So that is your source of power.

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To waste that is just the worst thing

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you can do in your life.

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And what the power is is finding that uniqueness.

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What makes you you and how you can mine that

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and how you can go deep into it

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and use that to create a career path, right?

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And so I tell people when you're a child,

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when you're four or five or even younger,

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you have what the great psychologist Maslow

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called impulse voices.

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They're little voices in your head that say,

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I love this, I hate that.

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I like this food.

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I don't like when mommy moves this way.

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I like when daddy comes from here.

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You're very cued into who you are

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and what you like and what you don't like.

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And these voices kind of direct you in certain ways, right?

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And when you're very young,

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they direct you towards intellectual mental pursuits

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as well.

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And there's a book I recommend for everybody.

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It's Howard Gardner's "Five Frames of Mind."

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It's helped me immensely.

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The idea is he talks about five forms of intelligence.

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Our problem is we think of intelligence

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as mostly intellectual,

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but there are many forms of intelligence.

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There's the intelligence that has to do with words.

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There's abstract intelligence

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that has to do with patterns and mathematics.

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There's kinetic intelligence that has to do with the body.

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There's social intelligence.

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He has five of them.

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And the idea is your brain naturally veers

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towards one of them.

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It can veer towards two of them, that happens.

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But generally one of them kind of dominates, right?

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And it's like a grain in your brain

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that's going in a certain direction.

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You want to go with that grain

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'cause that's where your power will lie.

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So when you're young,

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if you go back and think about when you were four or five,

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you can maybe get a picture of some kind of direction

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or voice inside of you that was impelling you towards this.

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I know for me, it was words.

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I can remember when I was six years old,

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I was just obsessed with words, just the letters in words,

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almost like in this almost slightly schizophrenic way.

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I would spell words backwards.

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I would take them apart.

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I would do anagrams.

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I love palindromes, right?

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So I had a thing about words and language.

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It's very primal.

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Some people, you know, Albert Einstein,

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when he was four years old,

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his father gave him a birthday gift of a compass.

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And he was just mesmerized by this compass.

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The idea that there are invisible forces out there

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in the cosmos moving this needle.

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And he's obsessed with the idea of invisible forces.

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Steve Jobs, when he was like seven or eight

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or maybe younger in Burlingame, California,

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his father, they passed by a store

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with technological devices in the window.

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And he was just hypnotized by the design of those devices

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and the glass tubes and everything.

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So he wanted to go in that direction.

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You know, Tiger Woods saw his father hitting golf balls

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in the garage and he was just like screaming with joy.

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He had to do that, right?

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You know, I could give you a million

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different examples of this.

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Of course, these are people who are famous, obviously.

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We can go back and find that.

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It's easier.

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But what happens to you,

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and please cut me off if I'm going on too long.

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No, please continue, please.

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What happens to you is you're seven.

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Now you're getting older

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and you're starting to not hear that voice anymore.

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You're hearing the voice of your teachers telling you,

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you're not good at this field.

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You need to get better at math.

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You know, you shouldn't be interested in these sports

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or anything.

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You should be going this way.

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Your parents are starting to tell you

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this is the career they want for you

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or the direction they want you to go in, right?

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You start hearing that more than your own voice.

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And as you get older, it gets worse and worse and worse.

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Then when you're a teenager,

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it's all about what other people are doing,

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your peers, what's cool, what's not cool, you know?

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And that kind of is more,

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so all of these noise enters your brain

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and you can't hear that anymore.

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You don't know who you are.

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And so you go to college,

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you kind of maybe choose a major

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that seems practical that your parents want you to go into.

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Maybe you kind of wander around, you're not sure.

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And then you enter the work world

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without that inner radar that I'm talking about.

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And brother, you're lost, right?

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Where should I go?

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Well, I need to make money, right?

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And so you make a choice

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based on the need to make a lot of money.

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Not everyone, but some people do that.

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And I understand that need.

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We all need to make a living,

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but that can set you off in a very bad path

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because you're not connected emotionally.

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The thing is when you figure out that primal inclination,

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that grain that's inside of you,

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then you have the energy to be disciplined,

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to go through boring tasks, to learn.

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You learn at a faster rate

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'cause you're emotionally engaged.

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When you're emotionally engaged in a subject,

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the brain learns twice, three times, four times as fast

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as when you're not.

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I always give the example.

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In college, I studied foreign languages,

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which was kind of a passion of mine.

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For three or four years, I studied French.

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And then I went to Paris and I couldn't speak a word.

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It was useless 'cause it didn't teach me

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anything practical, right?

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I was totally confused.

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And then, but I was in Paris and I loved it

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and I wanted to live there, right?

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And I had a girlfriend and I needed to speak French to her.

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And I can tell you in one month,

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I learned more than those four years of university

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because I wanted to, because I was engaged.

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My emotions were there.

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It was like I had to survive to learn French.

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Whereas, so most of us, we don't have a need really

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to learn this subject.

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We're half, we're paying half attention.

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But when you find that thing that really connects to you,

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you're paying deep attention.

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Your emotions are engaged.

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You're learning at a much faster rate, okay?

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And so the thing is, how do you find that when you're older?

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When you're 21, I give people a lot of help

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and it's usually not so difficult.

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We can go through that process.

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It gets harder when you're 30

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and you've been wandering around, but it's not impossible.

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I didn't really start, find my exact path

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until I was 38, 39, to be honest.

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So there's hope.

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When you get 40 and you get 50,

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it gets more and more difficult, right?

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And it's very sad if you wasted that seed of uniqueness

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that I'm talking about.

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And I tell people there are ways of going back

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and we go through a process like archeology.

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We have to dig and dig and dig

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and find those bones from your childhood

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that indicated what you were meant to do.

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But when you find your life's task, everything opens up.

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It doesn't mean you figured out,

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okay, I've got to aim for this particular job when I'm 28.

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That's not how it works.

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It gives you a sense of direction.

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You can try different things.

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You can experiment.

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You can have fun when you're in your 20s.

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You're going to learn.

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You're going to learn skills,

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but it gives you an overall framework

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instead of, whoa, all of this confusion,

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this chaos, social media, the internet.

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I could go here, here, here.

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You're lost at sea.

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It gives you a very important sense of direction, a compass.

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As you describe this, I have this image of,

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you mentioned animals that presumably

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don't have a lot of flexibility

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in terms of the niches they can exist in,

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but the way I imagine this process is

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that as a human, we're plopped into a environment,

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and here I'm using an analogy where

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we don't really know if we are an aquatic animal,

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a terrestrial animal, or an avian, right?

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Or an amphibian. Or an amphibian,

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for that matter, and to make the wrong choice,

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to be an amphibian who's trying to fly,

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although I'm sure they're out there in the animal kingdom,

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it's not just a waste of time, it's probably deadly,

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and not to over-dramatize the failure

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of finding one's purpose, but I see it that way,

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whereas perhaps we could just say

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that the process of finding one's purpose

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is to realize like, ah, I'm an amphibian,

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I can go in and out of water,

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whereas a bunch of other creatures around me

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stop at the water's edge, right?

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And this is really cool, and a bunch of these other things,

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like these flying things,

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that they can't actually even go in the water.

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Some of them might be on the surface or dive into it,

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but they can't do what I can do,

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so the process of self-discovery,

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it sounds like it's about restricting one's choices

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to a sort of wedge within the full landscape of options,

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and for me, I can certainly recall, after reading "Mastery,"

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it helped me recall some early seed emotions

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that I experienced as a very distinct sensation in my body.

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Can you describe that?

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Yeah, well, without making it too specific

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to my unique tastes, as a kid, I loved flora and fauna.

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I loved learning about biology.

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Sure. Yeah, no surprise there,

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but animals and how they move in particular,

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and fish and going to a proper aquarium store

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for the first time for me,

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and going snorkeling for the first time was like, wow,

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and even as I describe it, it's almost like my body floats.

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I feel it in my left arm of all things,

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and it feels like there's something to do about it.

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It's not just that I'm in observation

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of things that delight me.

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It's like there's an activation state created within me,

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like I got to do something with this,

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and typically, it's tell everybody about it

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until they won't listen anymore,

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but oftentimes, it's to also draw those things

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to think about them, and I just delight in them.

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It's a constant source of delight,

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and so seeds such as those,

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and there are a few other things in that landscape

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of flora and fauna, and learning about animals and biology,

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including the human animal,

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and then organizing information feels so satisfying to me.

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It's like a drug that, and so it just feels like

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this eternal spring of life, right?

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And so for me, that's what it was,

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and in 2015, when I was teaching that course,

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the course I loved, but I was feeling a little bit astray

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in my scientific career, and then I read "Mastery,"

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and I realized, yes, I love running a laboratory.

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I love teaching, but there's something else for me,

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and it has to do not with a podcast.

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I didn't even know what a podcast,

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I probably, I knew what a podcast was.

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I was listening to podcasts at that time,

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but I wasn't on social media.

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I had no thoughts of having a podcast,

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but what I wanted was that feeling

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in its total number of forms.

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That's the goal, get that feeling

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in as many forms as possible.

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Is that about- That's absolutely perfect,

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because the connection to what I'm talking about,

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it's not an intellectual thing, it's visceral,

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it's emotional, it's physical, right?

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And you feel it in your body, and when you're doing it,

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it's like it's at your level.

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It's like you're swimming with the current.

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You feel that things are easy, everything clicks together,

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there's a delight.

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Not everything is going to be delightful,

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there's going to be tedium involved,

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there's going to be moments of boredom,

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but you're able to withstand the moments of boredom

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because you feel that deep overall connection.

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So yes, that's precisely what I'm talking about.

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I mean, for me, it's a little bit similar thing

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is I said about words, but the other thing

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that I was obsessed with when I was a kid

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was early human ancestors.

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Don't ask me why, I just was so obsessed

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with our ancestors millions of years ago,

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and how it's possible to be living here

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in the '60s or '70s with cars and everything,

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but to come to where we are now.

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And I wrote a short story when I was eight years old

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about a vulture, it was written from the point of view

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of a vulture watching the first humans

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kind of emerge on the planet.

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I'm sure it was absolutely awful, dreadful,

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but the weird thing is I'm writing a new book

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and all I'm doing in that book is going into early humans.

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And I feel like a kid again, I'm so excited, I'm so happy.

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So I can very much relate to your story.

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You mentioned these five different forms of intelligence

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or frames of mind, as you referred to them.

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And I'm certainly aware that I lean towards

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a more intellectual interests,

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although, as you pointed out, the excitement,

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the delight is visceral.

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And the actions are actions,

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they're of the body ultimately.

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One has to draw, speak, write books, et cetera,

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to transmute that excitement into something real.

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For people that are not as intellectually tuned,

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but maybe are kinesthetically tuned, for instance,

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I can only wonder what that's like.

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I'm not completely uncoordinated,

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but I don't think I have a kinesthetic attunement

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or frame of mind.

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But I, for instance, had a podcast listener mention

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that they think in feels,

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that they literally experience thought

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as sort of a patchwork of bodily sensations.

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And that thought for them is not of the stuff

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from the neck up, but only from the neck down,

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which to me was really intriguing.

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And so I only raise this

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because there have to be, as you point out,

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there's an infinite number of different sort of orientations

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based on our unique DNA and experience.

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But what do you think explains why these particular seeds

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or as you point out,

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like the direction that the grain runs in the brain?

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I mean, it's partially going to be nature,

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it's going to be DNA. For sure.

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But we're talking about this as if there's some exciting

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or awe-inspiring or delightful thing that captures us.

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Can it be the other way too?

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Can it be, you know, one has a bad experience as a child

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in an intellectual environment and then decides,

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you know, I'm going in the, things of the body feel good.

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Things of the mind, of intellect feels bad.

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And does it matter whether or not we are drawn

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to our purpose by recognizing what we love or what we hate

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or are both useful?

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Oh, they're both very, very useful.

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You know, a lot of intelligence is non-verbal.

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We think in terms of images,

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we're very much infected by the emotions of other people.

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So I know for instance,

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my mother is very, very interested in history.

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She's obsessed with history.

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And I probably absorbed her interest in history.

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I don't think there's a genetic,

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a gene for that interest, you know?

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So you're going to absorb things from your parents as well.

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So it's not all just genetic.

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But yeah, what you hate will have a big thing.

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But the problem with doing that is

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if you go into a direction

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and you're in elementary school, et cetera,

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and they force you to learn math and you hate it,

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what it tends to do is it turns you off

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from learning in general.

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You think, I don't want to be disciplined.

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I don't want to go through anything

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because it's painful.

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It doesn't lead anywhere.

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It's not immediate frustration.

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It turns you off from learning in general.

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So it's really, really important for a child

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to have the love experience as early as possible

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so that they can know what they hate

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and why they hate it, right?

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And then they can rebel and they can go into that field

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as opposed to, I hate learning.

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I hate discipline.

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I hate studying.

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I hate trying things over and over again.

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If you're kinesthetically oriented,

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and you know, a part of me,

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I understand that because I love sports,

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is you have to practice.

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It's going to take a lot of,

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you're not going to instantly be good at something, right?

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And that's going to require a love of it, right?

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But if your math experience,

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'cause I hate learning shit,

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you're not, it's going to transfer to sports.

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You're going to hate discipline in general.

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So it's very important for parents

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to let that child have at least glimmers

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of that love moment.

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I know for me,

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when I finished college and I entered the work world,

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I had to get a job.

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I got worked in journalism.

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I hated it.

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I hated working for other people.

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I hated office politics.

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I hated all the egos.

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I hated the smarminess.

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I hated the lack of quality.

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It was all just about, you know,

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making money and getting things out there.

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And then I worked in Hollywood.

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I hated Hollywood.

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I hated working in Hollywood.

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That formed me very much,

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made me go in the direction that I went in,

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but only from the basis of,

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I knew that I wanted to be a writer.

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So, you know, that's very important

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that it's not just hate.

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It can form you,

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but there also has to be that positive,

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deep emotional love of something

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that also is grounded in you in some way.

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What you just said really highlights the fact

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that energy and motivation can come from either pressure,

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you know, desire for something

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or desire to get away from something.

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And earlier when you were talking about

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how we are so much more engaged

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and driven towards things that stir us emotionally,

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and actually we know based on the neuroscience,

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as you know too, I'm sure,

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that only by the release of certain neurochemicals

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in the brain and body

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would our brain have any reason to change, right?

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If you don't feel agitation

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and you can do everything that you're trying to do,

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of course your brain wouldn't change.

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Like, why would it, right?

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That agitation is a signature of the neurochemicals

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that are saying, "Hey, something's different now."

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Right, right, right.

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You might need to do something different,

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including rewire yourself, right?

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And that can come from positive or negative experiences.

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Of course.

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