Service 201: Toss, Point of Contact, Depth and More (TB EP. 08)
Summary
TLDRIn this video, the instructor continues a series on table tennis serves, focusing on universal principles rather than specific techniques. Key points include the importance of touching the ball at shoulder height for better camouflage, avoiding viral gimmicks like the 'ghost serve,' and understanding the depth and rhythm of serves to disrupt opponents. Emphasis is also placed on consistent ball tosses to maintain serve disguise. Practical demonstrations and quizzes are provided to help viewers grasp these concepts. The video aims to enhance viewers' serving skills and overall game strategy.
Takeaways
- 🏄♂️ The video is part of a miniseries on surf techniques, focusing on universal principles rather than specific techniques.
- 👐 The first principle is to touch the ball around shoulder height, which helps in camouflaging the serve.
- 🚫 Avoid touching the ball too far in front or behind the body, as it makes the serve too obvious.
- 🎯 The correct point of contact is crucial for disguising serves, making it harder for the opponent to read.
- 📉 Viral videos showing serves like the 'ghost serve' are often impractical in real matches because they are easy to return short.
- ⚖️ Vary the depth of your serves to avoid predictability and break the opponent's rhythm.
- 🔄 Change the point of contact on the racket to produce different spins and better camouflage the serve.
- 📏 Consistency in the toss is important for disguising the serve, regardless of whether it's short or long.
- 🔀 Mixing up serve speeds and placements helps in keeping the opponent guessing and off balance.
- 📹 The video emphasizes learning through observation and practice, and encourages viewers to comment with their thoughts and questions.
Q & A
What is the primary focus of the 'Surf 201' video?
-The primary focus is on universal principles that apply to many serves, rather than specific techniques for particular serves.
What is the first key principle mentioned in the video?
-The first key principle is to touch the ball around shoulder height, which helps in camouflaging the serve.
Why is it important to touch the ball at shoulder height when serving?
-Touching the ball at shoulder height helps in camouflaging the serve, making it harder for the receiver to predict the serve type.
What common mistake do people make when learning a new serve?
-A common mistake is touching the ball too far in front of or behind their body, which makes the serve less effective and easier to predict.
Why should you avoid trying viral serves like the 'ghost serve'?
-Viral serves like the 'ghost serve' are not practical in matches because they are too easy to receive short, making them ineffective in real gameplay.
What is the second key point mentioned in the video?
-The second key point is not to be fooled by viral videos of serves that look cool but are not practical for match play.
How can varying the depth of your serves improve your game?
-Varying the depth of your serves helps in breaking the rhythm of your opponent and makes it more difficult for them to predict and receive the serves.
What is the third key point discussed in the video?
-The third key point is to understand the difference between a serve in the short forehand, in the short forehand, and in the short forehand twice, emphasizing the importance of varying serve depth and placement.
How does changing the point of contact on the racket help in camouflaging serves?
-Changing the point of contact on the racket (bottom for backspin, top for topspin, etc.) helps in disguising the type of spin and makes it harder for the opponent to read the serve.
What is the fourth key point about camouflaging serves?
-The fourth key point is about camouflaging serves by changing the point of contact on the racket, which can alter the spin and make the serve less predictable.
Why is it important to keep your toss consistent when serving?
-Keeping the toss consistent is crucial because it prevents the receiver from predicting whether the serve will be short or long based on the toss, adding another layer of camouflage.
What lesson did the speaker learn from playing tennis about serving?
-The speaker learned the importance of a consistent toss from tennis, where hitting a specific target with the toss helped in achieving a reliable serve.
What is the fifth key point mentioned in the video?
-The fifth key point is about maintaining a consistent toss to better camouflage serves and prevent the receiver from anticipating the serve's direction or length.
What is the overall goal of these serve videos according to the speaker?
-The overall goal is to provide useful information and techniques to improve viewers' serving skills, making their serves more effective and harder to predict.
What does the speaker encourage viewers to do at the end of the video?
-The speaker encourages viewers to leave comments with questions, suggestions for other videos, or additional insights to foster discussion and improve future content.
Outlines
🏓 Introduction to Service Techniques
The speaker introduces the video, mentioning it's part of a miniseries on service techniques. They emphasize the importance of universal principles for serving, such as touching the ball around shoulder height. Proper positioning of the ball is highlighted to ensure better control and camouflage during serves.
📏 Practical Serving Tips
The speaker advises against being influenced by viral videos showing impractical serves, like the ghost serve, which are not effective in matches. The importance of a serve's depth is discussed, emphasizing that a deeper second bounce makes the serve harder to return short.
🎯 Depth and Variation in Serves
Expanding on the previous video, the speaker talks about the importance of varying the depth and speed of serves to break the opponent's rhythm. They suggest practicing different serve placements and speeds to keep opponents guessing and to enhance overall game strategy.
🌀 Camouflaging Serves with Spin
The speaker explains how to camouflage serves by varying the point of contact on the racket. They describe different types of spins (backspin, topspin, and no spin) and how the point of contact affects the spin. The importance of disguising the serve to confuse the opponent is emphasized.
📐 Consistent Toss for Effective Serves
The speaker discusses the importance of a consistent toss to camouflage serves. They share a personal anecdote about practicing toss accuracy in tennis. A consistent toss allows for various serves (short, long, diagonal) without giving away the serve's intention to the opponent.
📹 Conclusion and Future Videos
The speaker concludes the video by thanking viewers and mentioning that another video in the series will be released in the future. They encourage viewers to leave comments with questions or suggestions for future videos, highlighting the value of feedback and discussion.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Shoulder Height
💡Camouflage
💡Reverse Pendulum Serve
💡Top Spin
💡Back Spin
💡Depth of Serve
💡Toss
💡Consistency
💡Serve Practice
💡Viral Videos
Highlights
Introduction to universal principles of serving in table tennis, emphasizing general guidelines over specific techniques.
First principle: Touch the ball at shoulder height, parallel to the shoulder, to improve control and camouflage.
Common mistake: Touching the ball too much in front or behind the body during a serve.
Importance of consistent contact point: It helps to disguise the serve type from the receiver.
Second principle: Avoid being misled by viral videos of impractical serves like the 'ghost serve'.
Effective short serve: Aim for the second bounce near the end of the table to make it harder for the opponent to return.
Third principle: Vary the depth and speed of serves to disrupt the opponent's rhythm.
Example quiz: Identifying different serves based on bounce and rhythm without video cues.
Fourth principle: Camouflaging serves by changing the point of contact on the racket.
Detailed explanation of serve types: Reverse pendulum, regular sidespin, and scoop serves, with contact points for different spins.
Interactive segment: Quiz to guess the type of spin on different serves based on contact points.
Fifth principle: Consistent toss technique to disguise the type of serve.
Comparison to tennis training: Consistent toss practice using a marked spot to improve accuracy.
Practical advice: Keep the toss the same for all serve variations to prevent the opponent from anticipating the serve type.
Conclusion: Encouragement to apply these principles, with a promise of future videos on advanced serving techniques.
Transcripts
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2011
yeah
so guys welcome back again to the hall
in ANP kilip pong Hall of my sponsor and
today we're going to look at the second
Surf video service 201 today again as if
you watched last video you'll find out
that in this sort of video miniseries
we're not looking into a particular surf
or a technique of a particular surf but
we're more going to look at some sort of
universal or barely Universal principles
which should apply to a lot of service
at the same time and the first principle
that we're going to look into is to
touch the ball around shoulder height
shoulder height I don't mean the height
of your shoulder but I mean in like the
same length of your should of your
shoulder sort of like parallel to your
shoulder because what you'll see a lot
of people do is when they're trying out
or learning a new surf is they want to
serve a little bit in the table for I
mean like the perfect example for this
is reverse pendulum
Surf and what you'll do you'll see a lot
of people touch the ball way too much in
front of their body or which doesn't
occur so often touch the ball a little
bit too much behind themselves so an
example is
this see this surf okay came in the net
try to do one more
time it's way too obvious what
somebody's doing with this Surf and even
though it might give them a little bit
of control at first it's some something
which you should keep in mind and you
should try to maybe use this as a
stepping stone to get all the other
things of the surf right before you try
to go back and you switch again to
touching the surf at the right height
and this should be like in front of your
shoulder again as I said about
camouflaging your surf so this this is
one of the most important things to keep
in mind and that's the shoulder it's
something like an
indication it's not an entirely perfect
science but at this height at this Point
you'll be able to camouflage your sures
much more uh much better and yeah see
camouflaging that's what surf is all
about so if I'm going to serve a reverse
pendulum surf as I did
before and I'm going to touch it a bit
too too much in front of me and I'm
going to touch it too much below the
ball it's going to be too obvious for
the receiver if I'm going to serve with
Top Spin the difference in movement is
going to be too big well if I'm serving
once again with the correct point of
contact like a little bit in front of me
so this is where I would touch the ball
then this is a down spin
surf but this is a Top Spin
surf so there might be some small
differences I'm not paying perfect
attention to it I miss both serves okay
so it's quite cold in the hall I'm I'm
not too warmed up I'm giving countless
of countless of excuses but at least
you'll see that the movements are much
more similar to each other and yeah
that's what you should should keep in
mind so as a sort of guy line try to
touch the ball like in front of your
shoulder at shoulder
height okay second key point is not to
be fooled by viral videos on YouTube or
wherever you want you'll see a lot of
people trying to teach you like
something like a go surf or something
which is basically just a backspin surf
that stays over the table and rolls back
into the net and it might look cool at
first but it's not something which is
very useful in match because I mean it's
way too easy to receive short on this if
your surf comes too short so it's not
very practical there are some nuances to
it and I'll get into it in in next key
point but overall if you want to surf
short basically you want a second bounce
which comes near the end of the table
and because again that's much more
difficult to re to receive short on
because let's compare the two okay what
surf do you think would be easier to
receive short on this surf
where you touch the ball
there or where you touch the ball over
there a little bit deeper yeah see it's
going to be much more difficult on this
one and that that is just a basic sort
of physics thingy and yeah so these
viral sort sort of little videos about
the ghost sures about a serf that looks
like it has a lot of backspin might look
cool doesn't really work third key point
is from something similar from last
video from from service 101 see in that
video there was one key point that was
called try to know the difference
between a surf in the short forand in
the short forand in the short forand so
if that's not complicated enough I'm
just going to make it more complicated
by saying well you also need to know the
difference between a surf in a short for
end in the short for end and the short
for end twice twice because now before
we were talking about the placement of
the small differences in placement
towards the side more towards the
corners now we're going to talk about
the depth of the surf and as I said in
last key Point see if you serve very
short it's too easy to receive short on
but if you serve a little bit
longer sometimes for some people it's
going to be too easy to flick on so
you'll want to vary the the two of those
you want to switch things up a little
bit accordingly according what your
match situation is there's not really a
right or wrong in this case and as an
example I'll give you some sort of a
quiz and and I'll show you three surfes
and I want you guys to know or like look
at the difference in the bounce in the
depth or just the rhythm of how the ball
is
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bouncing maybe you found out the
difference already but let's now do it
without any video
video
as you might have picked up some sures
are a little bit faster are a little bit
slower and these all help in Breaking
the rhythm of your opponent which is
also very important you don't want to be
too monotonous in your in your game even
with these small differences in Surf
which might have something to do with
the depth of your surf but not even the
depth sometimes it's also just about you
serving a little bit more a little bit
less into the table all these things can
help you VAR your surf even more and
bring your game to the next level yeah
key point four is also something which
we discussed in the previous video in
service 101 but because of some requests
and because of yeah just my conviction
itself I want to to explain it in a
little bit more of a detailed way where
we were talking about the way of
camouflaging your surf
by changing the point of contact see
normally as like a sort of ground rule
if you touch the ball on the bottom side
of your racket is going to be with down
spin the top side of your racket is
going to be with Top Spin and the back
side of your racket is going to be with
no spin so it depends on what serve
you're doing it depends on what serve
you're doing so I'm not going to go into
each and every one of those because that
would be just way too lengthy but we'll
just compare let's say uh a reverse
pendulum surf we'll start with the
reverse pendulum surf so because I'm
touching the ball in this
way this is going to be backspin
this part here top part is going to be
with Top Spin and maybe the end here is
going to be like a little kick surf a
little kick surf so the top of your wet
at the end is going to be a little bit
of a kick surf now regular side spin
surf bottom part back spin top part here
is going to be Top Spin and
the last bit of rubber on the uh on the
racket is going to be for no spin
the final surve maybe which we'll look
into is a sort of scoop Surf and this
surf can be done in a few different ways
because you can touch the ball let's say
with your wrecked head first with the
point of your wet first but you can also
do it a little bit more from the side so
again so you see how many sort of
differences there are so it's going to
be too difficult for me to explain and
for me to get into each and every one of
those it's going to be too long so
instead let's just to sort of like a
little quiz so I'm going to do some
serves and Luke will receive those and
right before he touch the ball I'm going
to freeze the frame and you're going to
have to guess which serve it was if it
was one with Top Spin with Back Spin or
with no Spin and comment below how many
of those you got
right
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you
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ATT
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okay guys Fifth and last key point now
we're going to look at the toss so the
toss should be always almost the same or
it should always be the same actually
because that is also one way of
camouflaging your surf a little bit
better and I'm going to tell you a
little story to compare when I was young
I used to play tennis my dad would teach
me and my sister and when we were doing
surf practice he would always put like a
sort of a little circle a little pad on
the floor and we would toss the ball up
and we we would have to hit the ball
with h we would have to hit the pad with
the ball so that we could get consistent
toss again as a way as a way of
camouflaging because this is also
another level to camouflaging it's not
only your the same movement the same
aperture of your racket the same point
the different point of contact it's also
the toss so that is also another level
and so I'm going to demonstrate it from
that side over there because that helps
us just remove the camera
here because a lot of times when people
want to serve long they're going to toss
the ball a little bit more to the front
see if I'm serving short if I'm just a
regular guy I'm serving short probably
what's going to happen I'm going to toss
the ball throw the ball up a little bit
towards me which is not bad necessarily
just the way it
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goes but if I am going to serve
long thank you if I'm going to serve
long then because I'm a little bit
scared
that I'm going to touch the ball too
much to the side that I won't be able to
serve down the line anymore well then
I'm going to throw it a little bit more
in front of me and you see this
difference in toss is something which a
receiver can pick up and that way he
will be he will be ready for the long
serve already so here this
toss it's different it's different and
it's too obvious this difference in toss
it's too obvious so try to keep this in
mind when you're serving down the line
when you're serving just an overall long
surf that you want to keep your toss the
same you want with the same toss you
want to have every opportunity
imaginable you want to be able to serve
short diagonal short down the line long
diagonal long down the line everything
with the same toss okay guys that was
the video again thank you very much for
watching I think I have one more video
in stock of sort of these miniseries
about the surf so surface 301 will come
out someday not in the too near future
um but as for now just thank you for
watching uh I hope you got something
from it which yeah this is my main goal
when making these videos and please
leave a comment down below if you have
any questions suggestions for other
videos if you want to have a sort of
note if you have anything to add on to
what I said then please just leave
something down below I always appreciate
the feedback that I get or the
discussion that can come from these
videos but for now thank you for
watching and hopefully I will see you
next time
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