How to get a Job After Diploma In Computer Engineering?

Musings by Amit
7 Apr 202206:09

Summary

TLDRIn this video, Amit Patel discusses how to get a job in the software industry after completing a diploma in computer engineering. He highlights that many companies, such as IBM, Zoho, and Shopify, do not require a formal degree if you have strong programming skills. Amit emphasizes the importance of being proficient in programming languages and suggests applying to companies and startups that value skills over degrees. He also mentions that training programs and opportunities are available for diploma holders. Amit encourages viewers to start applying immediately and shares insights on career growth in the tech industry.

Takeaways

  • 📚 If you know basic programming skills, companies are willing to hire you and provide additional training.
  • 👨‍💻 Amit Patel introduces his channel, where he shares tools and tactics for software engineers to grow in the industry.
  • 🎓 If you have the opportunity, it's recommended to complete your BE (Bachelor of Engineering). However, some companies no longer require formal degrees.
  • 🏢 Companies like IBM, Zoho, and even Google are hiring based on skills rather than specific educational qualifications.
  • 💻 Zoho pioneered a trend where they hired high school dropouts, trained them in programming, and successfully built a company without focusing on degrees.
  • 🧑‍🏫 Shopify offers a four-year bachelor’s training program for diploma holders, covering the cost of education and later hiring them.
  • 🚀 Startups are a great place to apply, especially if you're skilled in full-stack development (e.g., MEAN or MERN stack).
  • 🎯 The key to getting hired is being highly proficient in your programming language and technology stack, regardless of degree.
  • 💡 Once hired, certifications and degrees become irrelevant—it all depends on your performance and contributions.
  • 🔗 The video emphasizes continuous learning and improving your skills to maximize career opportunities in tech.

Q & A

  • What are some companies that do not require a formal degree for hiring programmers?

    -Companies like IBM, Zoho, and possibly Shopify or Spotify are mentioned as organizations that do not require formal degrees, focusing instead on programming skills and experience.

  • What does Zoho’s approach to hiring demonstrate?

    -Zoho pioneered a trend by hiring high school dropouts and training them to become programmers, showing that skills and practical knowledge are more important than formal education.

  • Why is it important to be proficient in a programming language when applying for jobs without a formal degree?

    -Many companies, such as IBM and startups, prioritize programming skills over degrees. Being proficient in a programming language increases your chances of being hired, as technical abilities are highly valued.

  • What kind of training might companies offer to new hires without degrees?

    -Companies like Zoho provide training to help new hires build their programming skills, and others, like Shopify, offer a four-year Bachelor's training program, allowing individuals to learn while working.

  • How has the hiring trend changed in the software industry in recent years?

    -There is a shift towards hiring based on skills rather than formal qualifications. Companies are more willing to hire individuals who can demonstrate their programming expertise, even if they don’t have a traditional degree.

  • What advice is given to those with a diploma in computer engineering seeking a job?

    -The advice is to identify companies that do not require a BE certificate, focus on improving your programming skills, and apply to places like IBM or startups, where there is a high demand for skilled developers.

  • Why should you consider working for startups as a diploma holder in computer engineering?

    -Startups often value practical skills over formal education and are willing to hire developers with specific expertise, such as full-stack development (e.g., MEAN or MERN stack), regardless of their degree.

  • What should you focus on when preparing to apply for programming jobs after completing a diploma?

    -You should focus on becoming highly proficient in a programming language, staying updated on industry trends, and looking for companies that prioritize skills over degrees.

  • What does the speaker recommend if you have the opportunity to complete a BE degree?

    -The speaker recommends completing a BE degree if possible, as it can still be valuable in some cases. However, they acknowledge that many companies no longer see it as essential.

  • How does the speaker suggest you measure success in the software industry?

    -Success is measured by continuous skill development, getting hired based on abilities, and progressing in your career by contributing to projects and working well with senior developers in various companies, including startups.

Outlines

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💼 How to Kickstart Your Career as a Programmer

In this introductory paragraph, Amit Patel encourages viewers to pursue programming if they have basic knowledge. He emphasizes that even without a degree, companies like IBM may hire based on your programming skills and provide necessary training. He introduces himself and the channel 'Musings with Software Engineer', encouraging new viewers to subscribe for insights, tools, and tactics to advance in the software industry. Amit stresses the importance of knowing how to program, regardless of formal qualifications, and begins a discussion on how to secure a job after completing a diploma in computer engineering.

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🎓 Diploma vs. Degree: New Hiring Trends in the Tech Industry

Amit discusses evolving hiring trends, noting that companies are increasingly willing to overlook formal degrees, such as a BE (Bachelor of Engineering), in favor of practical skills. He uses IBM as an example, where job descriptions no longer mandate specific educational qualifications. Instead, these companies prioritize a passion for programming and the ability to demonstrate knowledge, even if it’s self-taught. He mentions companies like Zoho and Google, which have adopted flexible hiring practices and highlights how Zoho pioneered this by training high school dropouts. Amit encourages diploma holders to seek opportunities where degrees are not mandatory.

🚀 Career Opportunities for Diploma Holders in the Software Industry

Amit continues to provide examples of companies that value programming skills over formal degrees. He suggests targeting companies like Zoho, IBM, and possibly Shopify, which offer training programs and employment opportunities. He mentions Shopify's program, which offers diploma holders a bachelor-level training course. He advises viewers to research companies with similar initiatives and assures that diploma holders in computer engineering can still land jobs if they excel in technology and programming. The emphasis is on building strong technical skills to secure a job, especially at companies that don’t prioritize degrees.

📈 Joining Startups as a Full-Stack Developer

In this paragraph, Amit discusses the viability of joining startups, particularly for those with full-stack development skills (such as MEAN or MERN). He advises that many startups are willing to hire full-stack developers without focusing on formal qualifications, as long as they can prove their ability to build applications. Amit suggests that once someone is hired based on their skills, certifications become irrelevant, and future success depends on performance and growth within the company. He closes by promoting a course that can help viewers advance their careers and advises them to remain focused on their goals.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Programming skills

This refers to the fundamental knowledge and abilities required to write computer programs. In the context of the video, the speaker emphasizes that possessing basic programming skills is more important than formal education qualifications when seeking a job in the software industry. Companies like IBM are willing to hire individuals based solely on their programming ability, regardless of their degree.

💡Diploma in Computer Engineering

A diploma in computer engineering is a technical qualification obtained after completing specialized coursework in the field of computer engineering, typically at the high school or college level. The video discusses how individuals with this diploma can still find job opportunities in the tech industry, even if they have not completed a more advanced degree like a BE (Bachelor of Engineering).

💡Trends in hiring

This concept refers to the shifting practices of companies regarding their hiring criteria. The video highlights a growing trend where companies are moving away from requiring formal degrees like a BE and instead focusing on candidates' practical programming skills and hands-on experience. The speaker mentions companies like IBM, Zoho, and Google as examples of this shift.

💡Zoho

Zoho is a well-known tech company that, according to the video, started a trend of hiring individuals who did not necessarily have formal higher education degrees. Zoho hired people based on their programming skills and provided them with training, a practice that helped build the company and its reputation. The speaker uses Zoho as an example of how alternative hiring practices can lead to success.

💡BE (Bachelor of Engineering)

BE stands for Bachelor of Engineering, a common undergraduate degree in engineering. The speaker advises viewers to complete their BE if possible but notes that it is no longer a strict requirement for many companies. Companies like IBM and Zoho are now willing to hire candidates who demonstrate strong programming skills, even if they lack a BE degree.

💡Full-stack developer

A full-stack developer is someone proficient in both front-end and back-end web development, capable of working on all aspects of a web application. The speaker encourages diploma holders to apply for jobs as full-stack developers, especially in startups, where they can leverage their knowledge of technologies like the MERN (MongoDB, Express, React, Node.js) stack to build applications.

💡IBM

IBM is mentioned in the video as one of the companies that no longer require a specific degree like a BE for hiring. The company is willing to employ individuals who demonstrate strong programming abilities, making it a potential employer for those who have pursued alternative education paths, like a diploma in computer engineering.

💡Startups

Startups are small, newly established businesses that often seek flexible, skilled workers to build their products quickly. The speaker suggests that startups are good places for individuals with strong programming skills to start their careers, as they may value skills and problem-solving abilities over formal qualifications.

💡Shopify training program

Shopify is mentioned as offering a four-year bachelor's training program for diploma holders. This program is designed to provide individuals with the necessary education and skills while allowing them to work at Shopify. The speaker encourages diploma holders to research such opportunities, where companies provide education and training as part of employment.

💡Self-taught programmers

Self-taught programmers are individuals who have learned programming independently, without formal education. The video emphasizes that many companies now recognize and hire self-taught programmers if they can demonstrate sufficient knowledge and skill. This concept is a key point in the video's discussion on alternative paths to success in the software industry.

Highlights

Companies may hire you if you know programming basics, even without a degree.

Amit Patel, the speaker, shares ideas and tactics to help individuals grow in the software industry.

Completing a Bachelor's degree (BE) is recommended, but not always necessary for getting a job.

Some companies like IBM and Zoho don't require formal qualifications for programming jobs.

IBM has job descriptions that don't mention specific degree requirements.

Zoho has been hiring 12th standard dropout students and training them in programming for years.

IBM, Zoho, and even Google are examples of companies hiring individuals without traditional qualifications.

The trend of companies hiring based on skills rather than degrees is relatively new but growing.

Shopify offers a four-year bachelor's training program for diploma engineers, which covers the cost of training.

Diploma holders in computer engineering can apply to companies like IBM but must be strong in their programming skills.

Startups are also a great option for those who are full-stack developers (MEAN/MERN stack).

Once you are hired, your performance will matter more than formal certificates.

You can start applying immediately after completing your diploma in computer engineering.

Zoho's unique hiring strategy of training school dropouts helped them build an entire company.

A developer’s ability to prove their programming skills can help them get hired, even without formal qualifications.

Transcripts

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if you know programming skills if you

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know the basics of programming

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then they will hire you

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as a programmer and then you will get

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certain training hello and welcome

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everyone

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if you're new to this channel then my

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name is amit patel and you are watching

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musings with software engineer if you

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are new then subscribe to this channel

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and press the bell icon

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because on this channel i share ideas

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inside tools and tactics

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that can help you grow from where you

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are in the software industry to an epic

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level of success

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so if you're new then subscribe to this

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channel and press the bell icon let us

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begin

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how to get a job after a diploma in

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computer engineering so head for

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whatever reasons you are not completing

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your be

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if you have the possibility of

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completing your be

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then you should complete your be

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okay if you have the possibility

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then you should complete your be but

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what is happening is

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there is a little bit of change in

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trends

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okay

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there are companies

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which

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are

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ready to

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look at you

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irrespective of what degree you heard

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okay so ibm

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if you go and check for any of the job

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description of id ibm

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they don't mention the qualification now

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so in the job description they don't say

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that we want a be or a bsc or a bcom

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because what they are saying is they are

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saying

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that if there is a person

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who loves programming

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and

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whether he's done it on his own so after

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high school

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he dropped out after high school after

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12 he didn't do anything but he started

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programming like crazy and he's learned

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all these programming fundamentals and

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everything on his own or what by

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whatever resources

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and if he can prove that he's done this

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then we are ready to hire such people

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okay so if you want to get a job after

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diploma

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identify all the places

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where they don't care about your be

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certificate

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where the job description does not

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mention a be certificate okay there are

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companies like zoho

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uh ibm

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uh

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even google

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i don't know about netflix or not but

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there are many companies if you just say

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which companies don't require

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any graduation

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okay in software industry

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okay this is a recent trend it's not

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even uh like two or three years old of

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course zoho started this zoho started

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this 10-20 years back

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so what did zoho do

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zoho started a trend

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where

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they used to hire

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12 standard dropout children's

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and then they used to give training to

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these children to do programming

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and using that training

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they built all these applications and

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they built an entire company called zoho

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so they when when the entire industry

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was focusing on be engineers

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okay

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zoho did that and that completely

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changed the game for them okay so they

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don't care about about certification

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where you come from what you do if you

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know programming skills if you know the

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basics of programming

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then they will hire you as a programmer

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and then you will get certain training

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there is another place uh shopify i

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think okay you will have to go and check

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whether it is shopify or spotify because

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the names are similar but shopify has a

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training program it's a four year

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bachelor's

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uh training program where

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if you like if you're a diploma engineer

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you can try to enroll into it

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and they will give you the entire

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training of bachelor at their own cost

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and then after that you can join the

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shopify team

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okay so so there are there are such

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companies and you will have to do a

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little bit of research to find these

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companies

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but there is a possibility of

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getting a job after diploma in computer

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engineering okay because if you have

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done computer engineering uh you can go

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to companies like ibm and you can start

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applying but you have to be very good in

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your technology skills you have to be

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very good in programming language

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whatever

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programming language you are learning

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okay that you have to be very good at

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okay i hope

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that this helps you head

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and

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it it gets you a job okay

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let me know whether you are getting a

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job or not let me know in the next live

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start trying immediately if you have

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completed your computer engineering then

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start immediately trying uh you can also

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join startups you can easily go and join

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startups okay even in startups if you

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are a full stack developer like a man or

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a mean developer then there will be

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startups who want to start building an

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application on one

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full stack

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programming language correct on a month

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stack so you can directly go and tell

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them that i am a month stack engineer

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and i will be able to build an

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application if there is a senior i will

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be able to work with the senior and

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build the application lot of startups

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will hire you as an engineer and once

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you get hired after that nobody is going

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to ask for a certificate

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okay after that it all depends on you

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how you

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start

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i hope you enjoyed

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this session if you think you are not

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getting the right salary or promotions

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you can get the

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link to my

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how to become an a player

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course in the description

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thank you very much stay focused stay

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rich and see you in the next live

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