2024 Predictions for Networking - Cisco - The Economy

Jeremiah Wolfe
15 Jan 202427:29

Summary

TLDRこのビデオでは、Jeremiah Wolfが2024年のネットワーキング業界の現状と今後数年間の予想について語ります。彼はCisco、HP、Palo Alto、Arista、Juniperなどの主要企業の収益と成長を分析し、特にCiscoが業界でどのように優位に立っているか、そしてその戦略が将来どのように展開するかを詳細に述べています。また、彼はCiscoがソリューションとサービスに焦点を移し、ハードウェアの販売からマネージドソリューションへと事業を転換している過程について考察します。最後に、2024年の経済全般についての彼の見解と、テクノロジー大手企業が直面する可能性のある課題についても触れています。

Takeaways

  • 🌐 2024年のネットワーキング業界は、Ciscoが依然として最大のプレイヤーであり、市場シェアと利益の面で他の企業を上回っている。
  • 💼 Ciscoは市場シェアよりも利益率を重視し、高利益を追求している戦略を採用している。
  • 📈 小規模な企業は高い成長率を示しているが、その市場規模はCiscoに比べて依然として小さい。
  • 🔍 Ciscoの戦略は、単にハードウェアを売るのではなく、マネージドソリューションとしての「サービスとしてのネットワーク」に移行しようとしている。
  • 📊 Ciscoの成長は、大企業や政府などの大規模顧客からの収益を増やすことに焦点を当てている。
  • 🚀 小中規模のビジネスに対しては、Ciscoは市場を他の競合他社に譲る可能性がある。
  • 🔐 セキュリティ分野では、Ciscoは完全なソリューションパッケージを提供することで市場に再び影響を与えようとしている。
  • 📉 経済全体に関しては、2024年の米国経済は、インフレ減少と賃金の大幅な上昇により、リセッションを回避していると見られている。
  • 🤔 しかし、大規模な企業の成長の限界や、中国の経済状況など、リセッションを引き起こす可能性のある要因が存在する。
  • 🌟 Ciscoや他の大手テクノロジー企業が市場の成長限界に直面する中、株価の大幅な評価下落が予測される。

Q & A

  • 2024年のネットワーキング業界の現状はどうか?

    -2024年のネットワーキング業界は成長を続けており、特にCiscoが市場の大部分を占めているが、Palo AltoやAristaなどの新興企業も高い成長率を記録している。

  • Ciscoの戦略とは何か?

    -Ciscoは、単にハードウェアを販売するのではなく、ソリューションや管理されたサービスを提供する方向に移行しようとしている。

  • Ciscoの市場シェアはどれほど大きいか?

    -Ciscoは市場の52%を占め、他のすべての競合を合わせたよりも大きい。

  • Ciscoの利益率はどのような状況か?

    -Ciscoは全収益の52.4%を占めるが、利益では約59%を占めており、効率的に利益を上げている。

  • Cisco以外で成長している企業は?

    -Palo AltoとAristaは、それぞれ年間成長率が25~30%、30~57%と非常に高い成長を遂げている。

  • Ciscoのビジネスモデルの将来的な変化は?

    -Ciscoは、顧客に対して完全なターンキーサービスを提供する方向に移行し、ネットワークをサービスとして提供するモデルを目指している。

  • 2024年の経済予測はどうか?

    -2024年初頭の時点では米国経済はリセッションを避け、軟着陸を果たし、賃金の成長が見られるなど、比較的良好な状態にある。

  • 市場でのCiscoのポジショニングは?

    -Ciscoは、中小企業よりも政府や大企業など、高いマージンを求める大規模顧客に焦点を当てる方向にシフトしている。

  • ネットワーキング業界の将来のトレンドは?

    -ネットワーキング業界は、ハードウェアの販売からソリューションやサービスの提供へと移行し、サブスクリプションベースのビジネスモデルへと進化していくと予想される。

  • Ciscoのセキュリティオファリングの将来は?

    -Ciscoはセキュリティセクターでの立場を再確立するために、完全なパッケージとしてのセキュリティソリューションを提供することを目指している。

Outlines

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🌐 2024年のネットワーキング業界の現状とシスコの戦略

2024年のネットワーキング業界と経済の現状、及びシスコの戦略についての分析を行う。シスコが業界の大手であること、市場シェアが52%を占めていること、そして利益率が59%に達していることを示すデータを基に、シスコに対する一般の誤解(例えば、シスコが時代遅れであるという意見)を否定する。また、シスコの成長率が他の大企業と比較しても高いこと、新興企業(パロアルトやアリスタなど)の成長率が高いが市場全体に対する影響はまだ小さいことを説明する。

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📈 小規模企業と比較したシスコの成長戦略

シスコの市場での地位を維持し、成長を続ける戦略について解説する。新興企業の成長が顕著であるが、シスコが依然として業界をリードしていること、及び小規模企業と比較した場合のシスコの戦略の有効性について論じる。シスコの成長が続く一方で、市場シェアの増加が難しい現状と、利益を最大化するための戦略に重点を置いていることを強調する。

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🔄 シスコのビジネスモデルの転換

シスコがハードウェアの販売からソリューションとマネージドサービスの提供へとビジネスモデルを転換していく戦略に焦点を当てる。5年以内に顧客が月額料金でネットワークを構築・維持・管理する完全なターンキーサービスをシスコが提供する方向に進むと予測する。この変化が業界に及ぼす影響、特にシスコが中小企業ではなく大企業や政府といった大規模顧客にサービスを提供することによる職種の変化について議論する。

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📉 2024年の経済見通しと大企業の課題

2024年の経済の状況と、特に大企業が直面している成長の限界について考察する。米国が景気後退を回避した現状と、物価上昇の影響による一般の経済感情に触れる。また、大企業(例えば、フェイスブックやアップル)が市場の飽和により成長の限界に達し、その結果として株価の大幅な評価下落が予想される問題について議論する。

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🌍 中国経済の不安定性とその国際的影響

中国経済の不安定性と、それが世界経済、特に米国に与える影響について分析する。中国の銀行危機や建設業の問題、軍事的脆弱性が明らかになったこと、及びこれらの問題が中国の世界的地位に与える影響について詳述する。さらに、米国が製造業の再構築を進める一方で、中国からの撤退が長期間にわたる過程であることと、その間の経済的なバランスについて考察する。

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🔮 2024年とその先の経済と業界の未来予測

2024年の経済及びネットワーキング業界の展望と、将来にわたる予測をまとめる。市場での成長の限界に達した大企業の影響、中国経済の不確実性が世界経済に及ぼす可能性がある影響、及びこれらが経済全体、特にテクノロジー業界に与える影響について詳細に説明する。最終的に、これらの要因がどのように経済の見通しに影響を与えるかについての見解を提供する。

Mindmap

Keywords

💡ネットワーキング業界

ネットワーキング業界は、コンピュータネットワーク技術の開発、販売、サポートに関わる企業や技術者の集まりを指します。このビデオでは、2024年現在のネットワーキング業界の状況と、今後数年間での業界の予測について議論されています。Cisco、HP、Palo Altoなどの主要企業の収益と成長率が分析され、業界の健全性と方向性を示す指標として用いられています。

💡Ciscoの戦略

Ciscoの戦略については、同社がどのように市場での地位を維持し、収益性を高めようとしているかに焦点を当てています。ビデオでは、Ciscoがハードウェア販売からソリューションやマネージドサービスの提供へと事業モデルをシフトしていることが説明されています。これは、顧客が単に製品を購入するのではなく、Ciscoによるネットワークの構築、維持、管理を月額料金で購入することを意味しています。

💡市場シェア

市場シェアとは、特定の市場における企業の売上高が市場全体の売上高に占める割合を指します。ビデオでは、Ciscoがネットワーキング業界で最大の市場シェアを持っているが、そのシェアが減少している可能性があるにもかかわらず、収益性は依然として高いと指摘されています。これは、Ciscoが効率的な収益化戦略を実施していることを示しています。

💡成長率

成長率は、特定の期間における企業の収益または利益の増加率を指します。ビデオでは、Ciscoや他のネットワーキング企業の成長率が議論され、それらが業界内でどのように位置づけられているかを分析しています。特に、新興企業が高い成長率を示しているものの、その市場シェアは依然として小さいことが強調されています。

💡利益率

利益率は、売上高に対する利益の割合を示す指標です。ビデオでは、Ciscoが業界で最も高い利益率を持っていることが明らかにされ、これが同社の戦略と市場での地位を維持する上での重要な要素であることが示されています。

💡サブスクリプションモデル

サブスクリプションモデルは、顧客が製品やサービスを定期的に利用するために定期的な支払いをするビジネスモデルです。ビデオでは、Ciscoが製品販売からサブスクリプションモデルへの移行を目指していることが説明されており、これにより顧客はネットワーキングのニーズに対して月額料金を支払うことになります。

💡経済予測

経済予測とは、将来の経済条件やトレンドを予測する過程です。ビデオでは、2024年の経済状況について議論され、特に米国が予想されていた不況を回避し、経済が安定しているものの、特定のセクターや企業における調整が今後の経済に影響を与える可能性があると指摘されています。

💡市場飽和

市場飽和は、特定の市場または産業が既存の顧客のニーズを満たすだけの製品やサービスを提供している状態を指します。ビデオでは、一部の大手企業が市場飽和に達しており、これが成長の鈍化につながっている可能性があると説明されています。

💡収益性の最大化

収益性の最大化とは、企業が利益を最大限に高めるために採用する戦略や手法を指します。ビデオでは、Ciscoが市場シェアの拡大ではなく、既存の市場シェアからより多くの収益を得る方法を模索していることが議論されています。

Highlights

Jeremiah Wolf discusses the current state of the networking industry in 2024, including expectations for the future and Cisco's strategy.

Analysis of revenue and market share among major networking companies, revealing Cisco's dominant position despite perceptions of decline.

Examination of growth rates for Cisco and its competitors, highlighting the significant achievement of Cisco's growth in the context of its size.

Insight into the rapid growth of smaller companies like Palo Alto and Arista, and the perspective on their market impact compared to Cisco.

Discussion on the purpose of a business, emphasizing profit over product or service type, with Cisco as a key example.

Cisco's strategic shift from selling hardware to offering managed solutions and services, aiming for a subscription-based business model.

Predictions on the evolution of Cisco's business model towards providing complete network solutions as a service, moving away from selling individual hardware components.

The impact of Cisco's strategy on the job market, suggesting a shift towards in-house Cisco roles and outsourced network management for enterprises.

Cisco's aim to position itself as a premium solution provider, potentially sidelining smaller businesses in favor of large enterprises and government contracts.

The expectation that Cisco will focus on high-margin, large-scale clients, possibly at the expense of market share but with increased profitability.

Cisco's anticipated dominance in the security sector, offering comprehensive security solutions as part of its turnkey network services.

Overview of the economic outlook for 2024, touching on inflation, wage growth, and public perception of the economy.

Speculation on potential economic corrections and their impacts, including the role of major tech companies reaching market saturation.

Concerns about China's economic stability and its implications for global markets, with a focus on manufacturing dependency.

Insight into the reindustrialization efforts in the United States, aiming for a future less dependent on foreign manufacturing.

Closing thoughts on the unpredictable nature of economic trends and their potential effects on the networking industry and global economy.

Transcripts

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hello and welcome back to my basement

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This is Jeremiah wolf uh in this video

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today I want to talk about uh the state

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of the networking industry how things

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are looking right now in

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2024 what do I expect for 2024 and what

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do I expect to happen over the next few

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years both in the industry and uh to a

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lesser extent in the economy um and I

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want to talk about Cisco's strategy as I

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see it and how I see that playing out um

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so we're going to look at some of the

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numbers here and uh and we'll kind of go

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from there um this is actually like the

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fourth time I've recorded this video

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because I keep making mistakes and I

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hate editing it's much faster for me

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just to re-record than to edit so let's

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try to get it right this time uh let's

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get into it first off let's take a look

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at the

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um the numbers

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here okay so here we have a revenue for

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some of the major players Cisco HP Palo

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Al to Arista Juniper fored

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that as you can see Cisco is uh by far

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the

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biggest 52% Cisco makes up more than

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everyone else

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combined okay and I I want you to keep

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this in mind because if you get on any

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you know Reddit uh YouTube whatever and

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you listen to the people like me the

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talking heads or the the people on The

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subreddits Who are bitching about Cisco

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you start to get the impression that

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Cisco is dying they're a dinosaur

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they're dead they can't compete no one

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buy Cisco anymore what a piece of

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garbage everyone hates Cisco you know

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every day I get on uh Reddit and there's

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another story about we're our company

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you know we have 10,000 sites and we're

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ripping all of our Cisco out and we're

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only

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buying XYZ Whatever It Is Well the

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numbers don't prove that out uh so here

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we go Cisco still the biggest here I

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just combined Juniper and HP to give you

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a clear view of what's going to where

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where things are going to look pretty

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soon and here's

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profit uh Cisco is killing it with

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profit they

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are 52.4% of all

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revenue but almost

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59% of all profit they're doing

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something right and now there's more to

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it so let's get into that because it's

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not all just revenue and profit we also

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need to talk

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about what do I want here growth so

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let's look at Cisco

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Cisco uh 7 8% six little rough patch

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there 7 13 14 15 something around there

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percent so these are not phenomenal

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numbers these are not phenomenal numbers

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but for a company that is as old and as

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big as Cisco these are actually really

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good numbers so don't be

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confused Cisco is a massive company

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bigger than everyone else combined for

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them to grow 16% year onye is freaking

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amazing they're doing pretty well HP not

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doing so

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well not doing so well

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Juniper yeah doing pretty good pretty

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good for a company that's as old and as

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well established as Juniper but again

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they're much much smaller than Cisco so

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their numbers are are smaller less

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impressive when you think about it this

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is growth right so they're growing but

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they're they're a fraction of the size

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of Cisco so dollar to dollar Cisco is

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blowing them out of the

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water but they are

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growing now they're part of HP and looks

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like HP could use every little bit of

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help they can get uh let's look at some

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of the

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upstarts if you will Palo Alta look at

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these numbers 22% year-over-year

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30% they're hitting 25 30% every quarter

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year-over-year growth they're killing it

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they're killing it until you look at uh

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Arista 30% 30 48 57 54% 54 % holy crap

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Arista is growing but again

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again let's come back here Arista is

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only 5% of the

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industry so they're growing but for them

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to grow 50% is a drop in the bucket of

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what these guys are doing they're

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growing but it's not like they're uh

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destroying Cisco they're doing very well

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and that's what you expect from much

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smaller companies they're performing

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like a very successful much smaller

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company so I'm not trying to take away

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anything from their growth they're doing

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phenomenal but don't confuse these big

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numbers to as if this means that they're

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destroying Cisco they're not maybe one

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day this will translate into that but

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they got a long way to go and as they

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mature as their market share grows this

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will inevitably it has to the simple

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math demands it slow down this will slow

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down so it's good for now again Palo ala

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doing very well Arista doing amazing

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foret doing very very

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well 30% year-over-year

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um yeah they're doing great they're

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doing great so I'm not trying to take

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anything away from these guys they are

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doing really well uh but there are they

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are

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much much much smaller so it's easier

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for them to hit those big growth numbers

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okay

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now all right now that we've talked

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about that that just gives you a rough

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idea why do I want to why did I want to

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show you that I want you to get an idea

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about what the industry looks like

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because when you if you go by what you

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hear it makes it sound like the picture

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is very different um now again to be

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fair when I'm comparing four and P out

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to to Cisco that's not a one toone

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comparison Cisco does

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everything and the numbers reflect

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everything Palo AO and forunate do

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mostly security and um so if you compare

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just Cisco security to just paloo or

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just for it's going to be a different

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picture uh those two companies are very

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likely eating Cisco's lunch for now

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we'll see we'll see how it goes okay so

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now let's talk about strategy and uh the

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one thing that is important important to

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understand this is important to

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understand I'm trying to make this

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video quick I'm trying to talk quick

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let's get it out

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there excuse me um it's important to

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understand what is the purpose of a

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business what is the purpose of Cisco or

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Palo Alto or McDonald's or the dry

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cleaner down the street what is the

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purpose of that business is it to do

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networking is it to dry clean clothes or

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sell hamburgers

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no the purpose of any

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business is to make profit period and

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and full

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stop any business exists solely to make

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profit it reminds me of there's this uh

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interesting thought experiment in

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biology when you think about

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it who's the true life form is it the an

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plants and animals or is it DNA you know

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because why why do we exist we exist for

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the sole purpose of getting of

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replicating our

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DNA so you know like what who's really

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in charge who's really

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winning is it the DNA is it the human is

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it the whatever plant animal and it's

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the same thing with business like it

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doesn't

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matter all that matters is profit and if

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you look at the numbers Cisco is making

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a lot of profit so while they are doing

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things that a lot of people do not like

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we're talking about Cisco strategy now

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they're doing things a lot of people do

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not

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like they're making

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money so they're not going to

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change at this point in their life

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cycle Cisco

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cannot keep growing its way to added

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profitability they can't can't do it

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they have reached the end of that period

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within the life of a company they're

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simply too big they they hit that wall a

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while ago the only way that they

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continue to

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grow which companies have to grow in

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order to be you know maintain

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profitability they don't have to but

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investors tend to want to see growth um

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they have to find ways to squeeze more

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profit from the the from the their the

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the market share that they have they

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can't really grow the market share so

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they have to get more money from what

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they currently have and that is the

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strategy we see taking place with Cisco

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right now so what is Cisco doing how do

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it impact you what should we

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expect in

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2024 I'm not expecting a whole lot of

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big

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changes excuse me um

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because these things take time but what

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Cisco is doing in my

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estimation Cisco is trying to position

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themselves

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away from selling boxes toward selling

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Solutions managed Solutions I think that

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in five years maybe it'll take a little

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bit longer but you're not going to Speck

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out we need these switches we need these

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access points we need these controllers

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we need these licenses you're going to

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go to Cisco and

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say here's our needs here's our user

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base what's my monthly

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fee and Cisco is going to say okay for

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uh $10,000 a month or $20 million a

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month whatever it is we are going to

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build your network maintain your network

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manage your network it is a complete

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TurnKey

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service that is in my estimation where

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Cisco is going somewhere closer to that

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anyway maybe that's maybe that's not

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necessarily possible at the end of the

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day a complete solution like that but

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that's where they want to go and they're

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going to move in that direction as much

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as they possibly

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can so what does that mean for you well

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it means that ultimately um there's

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going to be Cisco jobs but they're going

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to a lot of those jobs are going to be

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for Cisco I think Cisco is going to

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start insourcing talent and individual

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companies uh particularly Enterprises

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are going to start outs you they're

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going to Outsource to Cisco

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um it is my

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belief

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that how do how do we say this

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I kind of lost my train of

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thought um that Cisco is it's kind of

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like Cisco wants to be

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apple in a broad

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sense when you go and you buy a laptop

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right

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um if you're on a

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budget Apple doesn't want you as a

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customer they couldn't care less go buy

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something else if you have money to burn

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please come in to join the Apple family

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we want to sell you overpriced goods and

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services that work really well they work

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really well but they're you know feature

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to feature pretty pretty overpriced and

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I think that's where Cisco is going not

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necessarily that they're looking to

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overprice their things but they're

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looking to become a

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premium

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solution um if it is it's my estimation

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that within 5 years maybe 10 years um

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we're going to see that Cisco just

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doesn't even Market themselves to the

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small and medium Enterprise if you have

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less than say I don't know uh 50,000

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seats or 100,000 seats Cisco might not

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even want your

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business that's the that's the that's

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the the the hassle business and you'll

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see this if you've ever done any kind of

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service what you'll find is that

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a small number of your

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customers eat up all your support time

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all your time and energy and they also

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tend to be the same customers that don't

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provide the majority of your uh profit

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or revenue for that matter and that's

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what and so Cisco is trying to avoid

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that they're trying to move into a

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position where they are focuses focusing

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on high

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margin um big customers like governments

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and huge Enterprises where they can

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charge a premium to deliver a fully

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functioning managed service and where we

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see this the most right

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now is was Cisco security offering Cisco

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security offering right now is a mess

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but it's starting to congeal and maybe

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in 2024 more likely in

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2025 I think we're going to see Cisco

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make a push to reassert themselves in

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the security uh sector of

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networking not by having the best

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firewall or the best whatever they're

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going to assert themselves by being a

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complete solution you buy Cisco and you

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get this whole package all desktop

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security network security Edge security

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Internet Security all of it one package

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that you buy that is marketed toward big

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Enterprises and governments that sort of

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thing I think that's where Cisco is

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going I think in 5 10 years uh Cisco is

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going to let their small business

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medium-sized business switches routers

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that's all just going to disappear

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that's all going to

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disappear it's just a hassle why deal

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with it they'll let

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HP uh pick up that that stuff they'll

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let the other providers deal with that

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stuff so that's what I think that's

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where I think things are going um Cisco

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is is trying to move away from selling

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Hardware into becoming a uh a turnkey

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solution where you pay a subscription

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that's what they want everyone wants a

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subscription but that's what they want

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right now they want to transition into

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your network as a

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service and um they're willing they have

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been willing to give up some Market

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market share to do that because they can

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give up market share but actually

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increase

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profitability and that's really what

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matters they don't necessarily care

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about market share what they care about

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is profit share and um profitability

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share of the overall profits to be had

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that's what they care about and looking

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at the numbers

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again if we look at profit they're they

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seem to be making some good choices and

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they're probably going to keep moving in

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that direction maximizing profit even at

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the cost of market share let

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fortunet have all the small and medium

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bus let them have

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it Cisco is going to sell to governments

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Cisco is going to sell to massive

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corporations who just want a

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solution so that's what I see happening

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in networking I really don't know what

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the other companies are going to go

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obviously any scraps that Cisco will let

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them have they'll have so if Cisco you

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know if Cisco is giving up the small

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medium-size market then other people are

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going to take it

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over that's you know that's just how it

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works

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now okay so that's a little bit about

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the overall health of the industry a

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little bit about how I see Cisco's

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strategy in the future now if you're

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still tuned in let's talk just real

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quick about what I see for the economy

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in 2024 right now uh at the very

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beginning of

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2024 everyone is saying we did at least

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in the United States we avoided a

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recession we got the soft

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Landing um inflation is down we have

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seen the biggest wage growth in a couple

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of

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generations um it's really fascinating

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if you when you pull people when you

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pull people and say how is the economy

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overwhelming the economy is

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how are you doing oh I'm doing okay

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yeah actually I'm doing pretty good I'm

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doing just fine but how's the economy oh

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it's garbage it's but and you yeah I'm

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doing okay doing okay this this has been

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proven out on multiple

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polls overall people are despite all the

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the

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perceptions uh people are actually doing

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better they really

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are maybe maybe individuals are not but

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overall people here in the United States

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are doing better yet we still

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overwhelmingly think the economy is in

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the

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gutter largely because of food food

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prices actually is the biggest driver

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for that but anyway um so that being

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said we have avoided a

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recession and right now everyone's

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saying we're we're good 2024 is looking

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to be a really good year I'm not sure

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I'm not sure and the reason is I'm

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expecting some big Corrections with some

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big companies and I'm actually really

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happy because I met I wanted to make

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this video two weeks ago on the first

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and then I was just busy and things

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going on and I just couldn't get to it

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and then um some stuff has

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happened that uh I was I had already

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predicted and I was like oh okay well

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good I'm glad I'm glad I waited because

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a couple of these things that I

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predicted are already starting to happen

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so what is going to impact the economy

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why do I think there's actually a pretty

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good chance we might have a recession

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this year and the the overall reason is

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because

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unlike just about any other science uh

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economics is fueled by emotion uh every

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study shows that uh the state of the

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economy has very little to do with what

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people feel about the economy that

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predicting recessions is actually

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incredibly hard because so much of it

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has to do with how people feel in the

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moment um it's it's fascinating and

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scary all at the same time and I think

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people are going to start to the people

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already feel like the economy is not

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doing great even though objectively it

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is it's doing really really good but

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people feel like it's not and I think

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those feelings are going to intensify

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because of what we were actually talking

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about a few minutes ago when I was

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talking about Cisco being a mature

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company Cisco cannot grow their market

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share they cannot grow into additional

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profitability they have to maximize

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profit in their existing market share

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they can't really grow anymore and there

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are several massive companies that are

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about to hit that milestone in their

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life cycle this is something that almost

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every successful company eventually hits

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they get to the point where they simply

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cannot continue to

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grow they can still be profitable and

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successful but they can't grow and when

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that

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happens the they tend to

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lose massive uh chunks of their

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valuation within the next year or so we

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are going to see this happen with some

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major companies uh Facebook they have

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reached Market saturation they really

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just cannot grow

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anymore um the streaming services

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they've peaked uh social media like

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Facebook and some of the other ones have

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peaked Apple has peaked in terms of

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market share

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all these companies are going to hit a

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wall a ceiling and once they do once

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they come back and say hey uh looks like

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we can't really grow anymore suddenly

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the stock market is going to be like

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what you mean you're not some golden

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child that doesn't have to adhere to all

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economic principles you are actually

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beholden to the laws of supply and

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demand oh well why am I paying $300 a

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share you're actually only worth about

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$60 a share share and that's what's

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going to happen we're going to see

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massive devaluations for some of these

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big specifically tech companies because

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they have just grown too big they can't

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grow anymore and once people investors

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realize that they realize that the

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stocks just aren't worth what they've

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been holding them at and paying for them

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and they're going to lose tons of value

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uh one great

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example just this week Tesla lost 91

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billion doar in value and just over a

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couple of days uh I think they're down

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like that makes it like down like 20% or

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some 10 15% something like that um now

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they'll probably fluctuate you know like

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this it's a process right because you

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know they lose and then people like

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value Hunters are like oh hey this is a

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great value so they start buying they

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push it back up so it's a it's a

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bouncing you know it it takes a while

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for it to smooth out but um so yeah

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Tesla's almost certainly going to lose a

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lot of value Tesla is so overvalued it's

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it's

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mindboggling they're worth like 10% or

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something of what they what they're

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selling at and it's going to happen it

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might not be 2024 but it's inevitable

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they will hit that ceiling and then the

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price is going to drop even if they're

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still doing great they could still be

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selling cars and making tons of money so

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keep in mind this is this is about

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valuation not about actual revenues or

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profits it's all about what people think

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the company is worth so we're going to

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see this with some major companies this

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year uh some this year some next year it

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might take a couple couple of three

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years for this to happen so I don't know

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exactly how that's going to play out if

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it happens too quickly it'll almost

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certainly cause a recession even though

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even

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though it there's no real impact on the

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E economy now when it happens these

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companies will almost certainly lay off

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thousands and thousands of workers uh

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but they've already been doing that

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um so again it it looks much worse than

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it actually is but it's enough to drive

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an economy into recession so that's what

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I think might happen this year um one of

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the other drivers that is

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really excuse me poised to screw up the

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world and economics is China uh China is

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in a in a bad place right now and you

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can there's so much information out

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there about that but first they uh

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they've had this banking crisis um their

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their economy is it's it's a house of

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cards almost

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literally um look up uh what's it called

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uh tofu dregs construction uh if you're

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interested

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um fascinating mess and then just this

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week it turns out that corruption which

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we all knew China is corrupt but the

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corruption is so bad to the point where

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their

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military is a paper tiger uh their

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military uh Readiness and Effectiveness

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has been so overstated so

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overstated that the reality is uh

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perhaps enough to seriously impact

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China's standing in the world um right

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now the US and a lot of Western nations

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are trying to pull out of China but this

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is a process that takes not even years

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it takes potentially decades to build up

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the manufacturing back here in the

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United States like there's you know

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under Biden if um if there's one thing

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that he will be remembered for it is

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this massive push for the

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reindustrialization of the United States

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it doesn't get a lot of press but um

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it's actually it's a phenomenal thing

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and we are rebuilding factories and

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plants and and um building building you

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know like my my Dad sorry I know I was

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running late my dad you know he he

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worked at General Motors and if you

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drive by the General Motors plant he

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worked at his whole life life it's this

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uh you know this rusting Hulk of a

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campus it's massive these giant Factory

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buildings that have been there for for

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two generations at this point and uh you

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know it's all old equipment I mean it's

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it's closed now I think somebody moved

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in but anyway um but you know that takes

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a lot of money to maintain and to uh to

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um retrofit and fix it well we're

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basically starting our steel mills are

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all gone our factories are all gone

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we're going to build them but now we're

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going to build Next Generation factories

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Next Generation plants um so we're

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positioning ourselves to become an

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industrial power again but that's going

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to take 10 15 20 years meanwhile we need

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China to hang on so we can keep getting

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all of our stuff from them while we

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position ourselves to just drop them and

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that's just this weird interplay that

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who knows how that's going to work out

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it's never really happened uh uh except

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for maybe during the Bronze Age collapse

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if you if you're interested look up some

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of the theories around the Bronze Age

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collapse that's uh that could be the

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closest analogy I can think of um so

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yeah anyway um because of all that

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craziness with China and whatever that

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that also has the some really just

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incalculable variables that may lead to

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recession this year so uh good luck if

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you've hung on this far that's my

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predictions for 2024 and the next few

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years uh I hope you got something out of

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this take it easy we see you next time

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