Historical Jesus

Randall Christopher Niles
1 Oct 200703:52

Summary

TLDRIn a lively debate, the speaker refutes the myth theory of Jesus' existence, highlighting multiple historical sources from various religious and cultural contexts that mention Jesus Christ. The speaker emphasizes the power of adverse witnesses, including Roman historians, who inadvertently corroborate Jesus' life and the growth of Christianity. With 40 ancient sources within 120 years of Jesus' life, the speaker concludes that Jesus was a historical figure, and the significance lies in how individuals interpret and apply his teachings.

Takeaways

  • 🗣️ The speaker engaged in a discussion about the historical existence of Jesus, challenging the notion that he was a myth created in the 3rd or 4th century AD.
  • 📚 The speaker emphasizes the Bible as a collection of separate ancient texts by different authors, which collectively provide evidence of Jesus' life.
  • 🌏 The speaker points out that Jesus is recognized across various major world religions, suggesting his significance transcends a single religious tradition.
  • 📆 The speaker highlights the use of BC and AD as a testament to the impact of Jesus on the historical timeline.
  • 🔍 The speaker conducted research and found 40 separate ancient sources that mention Jesus Christ within 120 years of his life, contrasting this with the fewer sources for the contemporary Caesar Tiberius.
  • 📖 The sources mentioned include historical accounts, some of which are adverse, providing a form of corroboration for Jesus' existence.
  • 👥 The speaker mentions figures like Josephus, Pliny the Younger, and Suetonius, who wrote about Jesus and the early Christian movement.
  • 🤔 The discussion includes the idea that adverse witnesses, or those who do not support the subject, can provide powerful evidence when they inadvertently corroborate a story.
  • 🎭 The speaker also considers satirical and comedic writings about early Christians as significant evidence for the existence of Jesus.
  • 🌟 The speaker concludes that the substantial evidence points to Jesus Christ being a historical figure rather than a myth or legend.
  • 🚀 The speaker suggests that what matters most is what individuals do with the knowledge of Jesus Christ in their lives.

Q & A

  • What was the main topic of the discussion the speaker had at the copy shop?

    -The main topic of the discussion was the historical existence of Jesus and whether he was a myth or a real person.

  • Why did the person challenge the speaker's belief in Jesus?

    -The person challenged the speaker's belief because they thought Jesus was a myth created in the 3rd or 4th century AD and only mentioned in the Bible.

  • What is the speaker's argument against the idea that Jesus was a myth?

    -The speaker argues that there are multiple ancient texts within the Bible itself, written by different authors, which attest to Jesus' existence.

  • How does the speaker address the argument that Jesus should be mentioned in other historical texts as well?

    -The speaker counters by pointing out that Jesus is mentioned in various world religions and historical eras, such as the use of BC and AD.

  • What evidence does the speaker provide to support the existence of Jesus outside of the Bible?

    -The speaker found 40 separate ancient sources for Jesus Christ within 120 years of his life, which is a significant amount compared to other historical figures of the time.

  • How does the speaker use the concept of 'adverse witnesses' to strengthen the argument for Jesus' existence?

    -The speaker, being a lawyer, explains that adverse witnesses—those who are not supportive of Jesus but still mention him—provide powerful evidence for his existence.

  • What historical figures does the speaker mention as sources of information about Jesus?

    -The speaker mentions Josephus, Pliny the Younger, Suetonius, and other writers who wrote about Jesus or the early Christian movement.

  • How does the speaker differentiate between the evidence for Jesus and the Caesar of the time, Tiberius?

    -The speaker notes that while there are 40 sources for Jesus, there are only 10 for Tiberius, indicating the significant historical presence of Jesus.

  • What is the speaker's conclusion about Jesus based on the evidence presented?

    -The speaker concludes that there is substantial evidence for Jesus Christ's existence and that he was not a myth or legend, but a great man.

  • What does the speaker suggest is the most important aspect regarding Jesus after establishing his existence?

    -The speaker suggests that what matters most is what people do with the knowledge of Jesus Christ, implying the impact of belief and actions based on that belief.

Outlines

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🗣️ Debate on Jesus' Existence

The speaker recounts a conversation about the historical existence of Jesus. They were challenged by someone who claimed Jesus was a myth, possibly invented in the 3rd or 4th century AD. The speaker refutes this by highlighting the multiple authors of the New Testament and the fact that Jesus is acknowledged in various world religions. They emphasize the importance of considering the Bible as a collection of ancient texts rather than a single source, and they argue that Jesus' influence is evident across different religious traditions.

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Keywords

💡Myth

A myth is a traditional story, often involving supernatural beings or events, that explains cultural beliefs or natural phenomena. In the context of the video, the term is used to describe the argument that Jesus was a fictional character, not a historical person. The speaker refutes this by citing various historical sources that mention Jesus, thus arguing against the myth theory.

💡Bible

The Bible is a collection of sacred texts or scriptures sacred to Judaism and Christianity. It is composed of the Old Testament and the New Testament. In the video, the speaker uses the Bible as a starting point to discuss the existence of Jesus, mentioning various authors within the New Testament who wrote about Jesus, such as Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Peter, James, and Jude.

💡Historical Sources

Historical sources are materials that provide evidence about the past. They can be primary or secondary and include documents, artifacts, and oral histories. The speaker in the video emphasizes the existence of 40 separate ancient sources that mention Jesus Christ, which he sees as substantial evidence supporting the historical existence of Jesus, as opposed to the fewer sources found for the contemporary Roman leader Tiberius.

💡Jesus Christ

Jesus Christ is the central figure of Christianity, believed by Christians to be the Son of God and the Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament. The video's theme revolves around the historical existence and significance of Jesus Christ, with the speaker arguing that there is substantial evidence for Jesus outside of the Bible, from various ancient sources.

💡Religion

Religion refers to a system of beliefs, practices, and rituals that often involve worship of a higher power or deity. The speaker mentions that major world religions, including Judaism, Islam, and others, recognize Jesus in some form, indicating the widespread influence and recognition of Jesus across different religious traditions.

💡Prophet

A prophet is an individual who is believed to have a special ability to communicate with a higher power or deity and to convey messages or prophecies. In Islam, Jesus is considered a great prophet, as mentioned by the speaker, highlighting the respect and recognition of Jesus in different religious contexts.

💡Anno Domini (AD)

Anno Domini, abbreviated as AD, is a calendar era based on the traditionally reckoned year of the birth of Jesus Christ. The speaker refers to the use of BC (Before Christ) and AD to illustrate the historical significance and impact of Jesus, as the timeline is divided based on his birth.

💡Evidence

In the context of the video, evidence refers to the information or testimony that supports or confirms a certain belief or claim. The speaker discusses the various forms of evidence for the existence of Jesus, including historical writings, religious texts, and even adverse witness accounts, which he considers powerful in corroborating the story of Jesus.

💡Adverse Witness

An adverse witness is a person who provides testimony that is not favorable to one's case but ends up supporting it in some way. The speaker, being a lawyer, uses this concept to emphasize the strength of the evidence for Jesus' existence, as even those who did not intend to praise Jesus end up providing evidence for his historical reality.

💡Persecution

Persecution refers to the act of subjecting someone to cruelty or unfair treatment, often for their beliefs or affiliations. The video script mentions the persecution of Christians by the Roman Empire, which the speaker uses as an example of adverse witness accounts that indirectly support the existence of Jesus and the growth of Christianity.

💡Christianity

Christianity is a monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ. The speaker discusses the growth of Christianity in the name of Jesus and how it became a significant movement despite persecution, further indicating the historical impact and existence of Jesus Christ.

Highlights

A discussion about the historical existence of Jesus was initiated by a stranger at a copy shop.

The stranger argued that Jesus might be a myth, possibly constructed in the 3rd or 4th century AD.

The counter-argument was based on the existence of Jesus in multiple texts within the Bible.

Eight or nine ancient texts were mentioned as evidence for Jesus' existence.

Jesus is recognized in various major world religions, not just Christianity.

The eras BC (Before Christ) and AD (Anno Domini) are tied to the life of Jesus.

Over 40 ancient sources for Jesus were found within 120 years of his life.

The number of sources for Jesus far exceeds those for the contemporary Caesar Tiberius.

Historians such as Josephus and Pliny the Younger are among those who wrote about Jesus.

Adverse witnesses, such as satirists and comedians, provide strong evidence for Jesus' existence.

The speaker, a lawyer, emphasizes the value of adverse witnesses corroborating a story.

Caesar's correspondence asking about the persecution of Christians is cited as evidence.

The existence of Jesus is presented as a historical fact, not a myth or legend.

The significance of what one does with the knowledge of Jesus Christ is highlighted.

Transcripts

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so I came out of another copy shop this

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morning and guy was challenging me on we

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were having a discussion about I was

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actually having a discussion about Jesus

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with somebody else and this guy chimed

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in he said you know I think Jesus was

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actually just a myth to begin with I

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think he was kind of put together

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together after the fact 3rd 4th century

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AD so why are you telling me about all

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the specifics of Jesus when I don't even

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think he existed in the first place game

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is because you only find Jesus in the

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Bible so therefore where else is he

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who's the greatest guy of all time

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shouldn't we find him all over the place

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and say well first of all let's look at

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the Bible itself it's not just one book

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I mean you had Matthew Mark Luke John

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Paul Peter James and Jude alright

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separate ancient texts about this guy

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named Jesus so first and foremost let's

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look at the power of eight separate guys

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maybe 9 the author of Hebrews that wrote

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about the man Jesus Christ next let's

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just talk about every major world

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religion deals with Jesus the Jewish

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people you know a great rabbi a great

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teacher you know there's even a

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tradition and in the Buddhist world as a

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as a Baha'i Eva and in the Indian world

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or the Hindu world as a guru

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obviously the Muslim world views Jesus

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as a great prophet sure we'd separate

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the entire eras by BC right before

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Christ and and you know in the year of

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our Lord ad so where did that come from

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but I needed to dig in so I did I dug in

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I said come on we have to have other

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outside sources I was blown away you

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know I ended up counting 40 separate

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ancient sources for Jesus Christ within

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a hundred and twenty years of his life

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that's huge pales in comparison to the

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ten I found for the Caesar of the time

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basically the known leader of the world

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of the time Tiberius only ten sources we

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don't mean about mean by this I have

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Josephus I have plenty of the younger I

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have Suetonius I have all sorts of

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writers that that talk about Jesus talk

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about a religion that grew in his name

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and these aren't really flowery expose

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Zahn Jesus in this in this religion

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these are actually adverse

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witnesses in a sense see what I mean by

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that is I'm I'm a lawyer so if you're

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gonna get some great testimony on the

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stand it's great when you have an

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adverse witness turn testimony for you

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see when you get an adverse witness to

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corroborate your story

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that's sometimes the most powerful

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evidence you have so when I've got like

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plenty asking you know the the Ceasar

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hey how do I persecute these crazy

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Christians I mean what are the rules of

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engagement you know at one point at what

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point when they don't disclaim their

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their religion at one point that they

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don't proclaim their allegiance to

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Caesar when do I get to kill them you

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know you have all of these incredible

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stories of that that are not really

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glowing stories of Jesus and and this

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these these people called Christians and

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so anyway my point here is that we have

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a huge amount of evidence for Jesus

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Christ outside of the biblical text we

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have a number of historians and even

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people that wrote satires and comedies

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and and again I view this as dramatic

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evidence for at least the man Jesus

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Christ there is no myth or legend there

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indeed was a great man Jesus Christ it's

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what you do next that ultimately really

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matters it's what you do with this man

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Jesus Christ that will ultimately mean

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everything

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you

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