TANPA SADAR.‼️JUTAAN MANUSIA MENYAKSIKAN KEWALIAN PRESIDEN RI KE-4 GUS DUR 😥😥

Summary

The transcript provides a deep dive into the life and presidency of Gus Dur (Abdurrahman Wahid), the former Indonesian president. It explores his leadership style, controversial decisions, and relationships with key political figures like Megawati, Amien Rais, and Suharto. Gus Dur reflects on his presidency, defending his actions, such as dissolving the Social Department and removing anti-communist policies, while also addressing the challenges he faced, including his ousting. Despite political turbulence, Gus Dur emphasizes his dedication to Indonesia's unity and reflects on his enduring impact, both positive and contentious.

Takeaways

• 😀 Gus Dur's presidency was marked by political intrigue and his dismissal, which he deemed unconstitutional and politically motivated.
• 😀 He believed that the real enemies of the state were not the public figures like Megawati or Amien Rais, but rather former President Suharto.
• 😀 Gus Dur openly criticized the corruption within Indonesian government departments, especially the Ministry of Social Affairs, and suggested radical measures to address it.
• 😀 He felt the responsibility of leadership deeply, mentioning that he was guided by five elders and would follow their orders without question.
• 😀 Gus Dur’s decision to dismiss certain government departments, such as the Ministry of Social Affairs, was due to widespread corruption, despite the negative consequences on social services.
• 😀 Gus Dur’s relationship with Megawati and Amien Rais after his removal from office was marked by a sense of reconciliation, despite ongoing political tensions.
• 😀 Gus Dur emphasized the importance of national unity and integrity, which guided his frequent diplomatic travels during his presidency to maintain Indonesia’s territorial unity.
• 😀 His controversial remarks about the PKI (Communist Party of Indonesia) and the legal repercussions regarding it stemmed from his interpretation of the country's constitution and the separation of religion and state.
• 😀 Gus Dur defended his actions during his presidency, particularly his diplomatic efforts, stating that they were essential for the survival and cohesion of the nation.
• 😀 Despite being removed from office, Gus Dur remained non-vindictive, opting for forgiveness rather than confrontation, and felt the true problem lay in the lack of action from the people of Indonesia.

Q & A

What was the main issue that led to the removal of Gus Dur as president?

Gus Dur was removed due to political struggles and disagreements within the government. He believed the process was politically motivated and unconstitutional, as his removal came through a special session of the MPR, without clear legal justification.

Why did Gus Dur argue that his removal was a violation of the constitution?

Gus Dur considered his removal a violation because there was no proven legal wrongdoing on his part. He felt the process was politically orchestrated, led by figures like Amien Rais and Megawati, and lacked a fair constitutional procedure.

How did Gus Dur view the political situation during his presidency?

Gus Dur believed that the political situation in Indonesia was unstable, with separatist movements and challenges to national unity. His primary goal during his presidency was to maintain the integrity of the country despite political pressures.

What was Gus Dur's stance on the role of religion in politics?

Gus Dur advocated for the separation of religion from the state. He believed the government should not interfere with religious affairs and emphasized that politics should be inclusive, protecting all citizens regardless of their beliefs.

What was Gus Dur's response to the criticism of his presidency's spending on foreign travel?

Gus Dur defended his extensive foreign travel by emphasizing that the cost of maintaining Indonesia's territorial integrity and global presence was invaluable. He argued that the cost was justified for the greater good of preserving the nation.

How did Gus Dur respond to the claims of corruption within the government?

Gus Dur acknowledged the corruption within the government and took steps to address it. For instance, he dissolved the Department of Social Affairs and the Department of Information, as these institutions were heavily involved in corruption.

Why did Gus Dur disband the Department of Social Affairs and the Department of Information?

Gus Dur disbanded these departments due to their involvement in corruption. He believed that if the institutions meant to help the people were corrupted, it was better to dismantle them rather than allow the corruption to continue unchecked.

Did Gus Dur have any personal enemies in Indonesia during his presidency?

Gus Dur mentioned that his only personal enemy in Indonesia was President Suharto. However, he emphasized that his struggles were political and that he did not hold personal grudges against others like Amien Rais or Megawati.

How did Gus Dur view the role of the press and media in Indonesian politics?

Gus Dur believed that while the press should be free, there needed to be some control to prevent issues like pornography and unregulated content from spreading. He expressed concerns about the lack of oversight and control over the media after certain institutions were dissolved.

What was Gus Dur's opinion on the PKI (Indonesian Communist Party) and the 1966 MPRS decree?

Gus Dur disagreed with the 1966 MPRS decree that labeled the PKI as a threat. He believed that the government's role was not to isolate or suppress groups based on their beliefs but to foster a more inclusive, tolerant society under the principles of Pancasila.