Writer Orhan Pamuk | A Good Novel Should Make Us Feel the Passing of Time | Louisiana Channel
Summary
TLDRThe speaker reflects on the significance of time in literature, philosophy, and life. They discuss how writers like William Faulkner, Thomas Mann, and Joseph Conrad explored time in unique ways, affecting both narrative structure and reader experience. The theme of time also plays a key role in personal reflections on life and death, especially as one ages. The speaker mentions their interest in writing a novel set in medieval Ottoman times during a plague, using time to explore human mortality. Time, along with space, is seen as a central concept in art and philosophy, particularly in the works of Kant.
Takeaways
- ⏳ Time is a central theme of interest, explored both philosophically and in literature.
- 📚 William Faulkner, in *The Sound and the Fury*, focused on the concept of time, with characters grappling with its meaning.
- 🔄 Thomas Mann's *The Magic Mountain* explores the perception of time through its setting, making the reader forget about time's passing.
- ⏱️ Vladimir Nabokov praised Tolstoy's *War and Peace* for its synchronization of narrative time with the reader's experience.
- ⏪ Joseph Conrad introduced non-linear storytelling, beginning a story in the middle, then jumping backward and forward in time.
- 🕰️ Chapters in novels serve to convey shifts in time, allowing the story to unfold across various moments and perspectives.
- 🧠 Death and the passage of time become more prominent themes with age, leading to reflections on life's meaning.
- 🏺 Timeless objects, such as stones or sculptures, provoke feelings of jealousy in characters, as they remain unchanged while humans age and die.
- 🎨 Art and literature differ in their handling of time and space: literature deals with change over time, while visual arts represent change in space.
- 🌀 Human beings' awareness of time and their finite existence makes them unique, and this theme is explored both philosophically and artistically.
Q & A
What role does time play in literature according to the speaker?
-Time is a crucial theme in literature for the speaker, both philosophically and technically. It affects the reader's perception of a story and is a fundamental element in shaping a novel's structure. The speaker believes that a good novel should evoke the passing of time.
How does the speaker relate William Faulkner's 'Sound and Fury' to the theme of time?
-The speaker references William Faulkner's 'Sound and Fury' as a novel where time is central, noting that one character is preoccupied with time, leading to a symbolic gesture of breaking a clock or wristwatch.
Which novel does the speaker mention as one of the best representations of the passing of time, and why?
-The speaker cites Thomas Mann's 'Magic Mountain' as one of the best representations of the passing of time, particularly because the novel's geographical setting makes the reader forget about the flow of time.
What is the speaker's view on how chapters influence the sense of time in a novel?
-The speaker believes that chapters in a novel help convey different senses of time. Chapters not only organize the narrative from the perspective of who is telling the story, but also anchor the story in time, often starting with phrases like 'after such time' or specifying months.
How does the speaker distinguish between the pace of time in life and the reader's experience of time?
-The speaker acknowledges that the pace of time in life and the reader's experience of time while reading can sometimes overlap, but they may also contradict each other. This interplay is important for creating depth in storytelling.
What does the speaker say about Vladimir Nabokov's praise for Tolstoy's 'War and Peace'?
-The speaker mentions that Vladimir Nabokov praised Tolstoy's 'War and Peace' because Tolstoy's depiction of time in the novel closely matches the reader's experience of time as they read.
How did Joseph Conrad influence the way stories are told, according to the speaker?
-The speaker credits Joseph Conrad with revolutionizing storytelling by introducing non-linear narrative techniques, where a story might start in the middle, then jump backward and forward in time.
What does the speaker believe makes a good writer or artist, particularly in relation to death and time?
-The speaker suggests that those who ask deep, existential questions about death and the meaning of life at a young age, in their 20s, are likely to become good writers or artists. Such questions typically become more common as people age.
Why does the speaker fantasize about writing a plague novel set in medieval Ottoman times?
-The speaker fantasizes about writing a plague novel because a pandemic forces people to confront death and think about the meaning of life. Such a setting, where one in three people might die, heightens the existential stakes for the characters.
How does the speaker contrast the timelessness of objects with human existence?
-The speaker reflects on how human beings are constrained by time, while objects, like a stone or a piece of marble, remain timeless. The speaker's characters, and possibly the speaker themselves, are often jealous of these objects, which exist without any sense of time.
Outlines
🕰️ Exploring Time in Literature and Philosophy
The first paragraph delves into the concept of time from philosophical and literary perspectives. It mentions the works of 1920s philosopher Henri Bergson, William Faulkner's *The Sound and the Fury*, and Thomas Mann’s *Magic Mountain*. The author reflects on the importance of portraying time in literature, not just as a backdrop but as a central theme. The passage also discusses how time in novels can be presented through different techniques, such as Conrad’s non-linear storytelling and the pacing in Tolstoy's *War and Peace*. Time, in this context, becomes not just a narrative tool, but a philosophical exploration of how life and literature intertwine.
⏳ Time, Death, and the Human Condition
The second paragraph shifts focus to time’s relationship with death, especially as one grows older. The speaker contemplates how the awareness of time running out leads to existential reflections, and admires those who ponder the meaning of life and death in their youth. This personal reflection segues into the idea of writing about time and mortality within the context of a medieval Ottoman plague novel. The author expresses fascination with how plagues force characters to confront their mortality, bringing deeper questions about life. The uniqueness of humans, according to the author, lies in their sense of time, which is absent in timeless objects like stones.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Time
💡Philosophical Time
💡Non-linear narrative
💡Passing of time
💡Death
💡Empathy
💡Timelessness
💡Chapters in Novels
💡Art and Literature
💡Immanuel Kant’s Philosophy
Highlights
Time is a particularly interesting theme, both philosophically and aesthetically, for the speaker.
The speaker is influenced by 1920s French philosopher Henri Bergson and writers like William Faulkner, who explored the concept of time in literature.
In Faulkner’s 'The Sound and the Fury,' time is a central theme, with a character symbolically breaking a clock to represent the struggle with time.
Thomas Mann's 'Magic Mountain' is praised for its geographical representation of time, which causes the reader to lose a sense of time passing.
The speaker explores the reader’s perception of time versus the natural passage of time, noting how they may overlap or contradict each other.
The speaker reflects on Vladimir Nabokov's admiration for Tolstoy's 'War and Peace,' where the narrative time aligns closely with the reader’s experience of time.
Joseph Conrad’s narrative technique of non-linear storytelling is highlighted, as it starts in the middle, moves backward, and then forward in time.
The speaker emphasizes that the passing of time should be a key element that a good novel evokes in its readers.
Virginia Woolf’s early novel 'The Years' is noted for its focus on the passage of time, with the speaker connecting it to childhood experiences with comics.
Chapters in novels are viewed as tools to give different feelings of time, shaping the narrative's structure and the perception of time.
Time is considered a central theme in life, and for the speaker, literature should represent time both openly and subtly.
The speaker discusses how aging brings a heightened awareness of time and death, prompting existential questions about life’s meaning.
There’s a fascination with pandemic novels, particularly ones set in medieval Ottoman times, where characters reflect on death during a plague.
The speaker notes the unique human ability to conceptualize time, which distinguishes humans from objects like stones that exist timelessly.
The speaker finds inspiration in Salvador Dalí’s 'The Persistence of Memory,' which philosophically reflects on time and timelessness.
In the novel 'Silent House,' a grandmother laments that objects will outlive her, emphasizing the timelessness of inanimate objects compared to human life.
Transcripts
time is a particularly interesting theme
for me and there are so many aspects of
it there is the philosophical time in
1920s the French philosopher beron was
very famous then writers of his
generation especially William Falkner
was interested in time in Sound and Fury
his best novel one of the characters is
extremely busy with time and in the end
man in a very crude symbolic gesture
breaks his clock or a wrist watch so to
speak um I am also interested in
representing time one of the best novels
that is about passing of time is Thomas
man's Magic Mountain because that
novel's geographical representation
makes us forget about passing of the
time and it was also I'm also interested
in time as the reader pace of passing
time and the life's pace of passing time
which sometimes should be contradictory
or which sometimes overlaps it was
Vladimir Noak who praised tolto War and
Peace in which he said he wrote about
tolto and noo admired tolto he said um
um tol sto is time is almost equal to
Reader's time when he is reading it but
it was Joseph Conrad who invented to
tell the story not in a linear time
fashion but start the story in the
middle then go back to some time before
then jump back some sometime before I
taught Joseph Conrad's best novel no
trauma in the class and you see that
it's very complicated I don't ADV
that too much to my readers or to
wouldbe writers for me passing of time
is the main thing that a good novel
should make us feel the passing of time
one of the early Virginia wolf novels
which was less Virginia wolf more Henry
James the years was all about the
passing of the time in my child Hood
comic books they would be in between
between the squares there would be
suddenly after sometime or
suddenly exclanation marks that I loved
so much I think in in composing a novel
when putting my story in shape chapters
help us to give us different feeling of
time I sometimes think that chapters
work not on to arrange that who's
telling the story from whose eyes we are
seeing the story but in what time it's
happening and you can start a chapter
saying after such such such such time or
in in in early February so and so return
to his home or something like that
chapters really in novels help us to
feel the existence of time living being
is a feeling of time and since in the
end a Nole is should be a full
representation of what we live in this
world time secretly or openly is a great
subject for me both Technic wise and
philosophically and
aesthetically death obviously is a
strong subject in my books especially as
I get older because the most valuable
thing that time time is finishing we
have to be even quick then we even ask
ourselves major questions about what did
I do with my life what is the meaning of
life to ask questions like that at the
age of why am I living what is the value
what is their other life or what should
I have done in my life is common at the
age of 70 what is interesting very
honorable and very distinctive is to be
able to ask these questions when you are
20 if you're asking questions about
death and the meaning of life in your
20s I think you're going to be a good
writer or a good artist because of that
I always fantasize about writing a novel
set in medieval otoman times because a
pandemic novel a plague novel is a way
of everyone faces death when there is a
plague pandemic because it kills one in
three and I thought I will make my
characters think about the meaning of
life in a romantic way more or less that
was the initial idea of nights of
plague what makes we human beings unique
is that not only we have the power of
empathy understanding others but also we
have a strong sense of
time and this makes
timelessness a very interesting subject
that in a desert or in a salad Del
painting and his Persistence of time is
about almost a philosophical painting we
see a landscape an endless landscape
without human beings it is we human
beings that land to the endless universe
a sense of time perhaps because we are
very busy that we have unfortunately a
very limited time my characters perhaps
me are always jealous of objects who do
not have any sense of time and who may
exist just like a piece of stone in an
un remote corner of the globe which is
there for thousands of thousands of
years and it's a Timeless object we will
die vanish but that stone that little
curve of marble will be there in my
Silent House there is a grandmother who
very old grandmother is very upset by
the objects who will stay there if even
we don't exist they will continue to
stay there perhaps because she's aware
that she's about to
die for literature or or at least for
for my kind of literature time is
important let us not forget that
literature stories are possible because
there is a change in things and that is
only possible in time in fact I'm also
interested in arts
painting um sculpture architecture is
possible because there's not change in
time but there's change in space
literature Works in time because story
is possible with a change while art
painting is possible because of a change
in space and time and space are two
basic categories in Emmanuel kant's
philosophy and they are the two dear
things for an artist for a writer that
you constantly go back to
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