YSL Affiliate QZ Claims Young Thug Was Not Involved in IF Gang Member's Murder

Summary

The transcript covers a tense cross-examination where the witness, repeatedly denying previous statements, is questioned about his involvement in several criminal incidents. He is asked about his knowledge of various shootings, gang activities, and individuals like Kelvin Treadwell and OG Bentley. The witness frequently claims he lied in earlier police interviews to avoid implicating others, repeatedly stating that he was not present at critical events or simply fabricating details. The discussion also delves into relationships between gang members and incidents surrounding Donovan Thomas's murder.

Takeaways

• 🤔 The witness repeatedly denied involvement with 'slime' in both 2015 and at the time of the testimony.
• 🙅 The witness claimed not to recall knowing Kelvin Treadwell in 2015 but admitted knowing him in 2019.
• ❌ The witness consistently denied being inside the gambling house when it was shot at and stated that they had lied to detectives in previous statements.
• 💭 The witness admitted to lying about several details, including the involvement of Shannon and Yak in the murder of Donovan Thomas.
• 🚫 The witness denied being present during several key events, including discussions about the murder and Shannon's role in the incident.
• 😑 The witness frequently stated that they couldn't remember details, including specifics about discussions or events involving other individuals.
• 😐 The witness claimed that they were in the hospital on the day of Donovan Thomas' murder, which contradicts earlier statements.
• 🛑 The witness expressed frustration about repeatedly discussing certain individuals, like OG Bentley, and clarified that they were unsure if Bentley was deceased.
• 🤥 The witness admitted to fabricating several details when speaking to detectives, including information about weapons and roles in the shooting.
• 🚶‍♂️ The witness explained that after the incidents, Thug distanced himself from Woody, allegedly because he wanted to avoid negative influences.

Q & A

Did the witness acknowledge being part of the group 'Slime' in 2015?

No, the witness shook his head and verbally confirmed that he was not part of 'Slime' in 2015.

Did the witness admit to knowing Kelvin Treadwell in 2019?

Yes, the witness confirmed knowing Kelvin Treadwell and being on probation with him in 2019.

Did the witness say that 'Rock Crew' and 'YSL' were the same thing in 2015?

No, the witness denied that 'Rock Crew' and 'YSL' were the same thing.

Did the witness tell detectives in 2015 that he and 'Thug' were inside the gambling house during the shooting?

No, the witness denied telling detectives that he and 'Thug' were inside the gambling house when it was shot at.

Did the witness recall if Woody and Munk shot at 'Kell' on MLK after the gambling house incident?

The witness stated that he didn't know whether Woody and Munk shot at 'Kell' after the gambling house incident.

Did the witness admit to lying to detectives about Shannon's involvement in the murder of Donovan Thomas?

Yes, the witness admitted that he lied to detectives about Shannon's involvement, saying he was upset and just blaming Shannon.

Did the witness say that 'Thug' stopped hanging around Woody due to drama?

Yes, the witness mentioned that 'Thug' stopped hanging around Woody because he wanted to avoid negativity.

Did the witness say that Thug found out about Donovan Thomas's murder after it happened?

Yes, the witness stated that 'Thug' found out about the murder after it happened, like everyone else.

Did the witness say Bentley sold drugs or 'weight'?

No, the witness said Bentley never sold drugs to him and that he only told police that to place blame on Bentley, following advice from others.

Did the witness recall if they left Miami because they got bored after the Donovan Thomas murder?

The witness stated that he did not remember if they left Miami due to boredom but admitted telling the police they went to Miami after the murder.

Outlines

00:00

🤔 Clarifying Testimony and Recollection of Events

In this section, the speaker discusses events from 2015 and their association with various people, such as Kelvin Treadwell and OG Bentley. The speaker denies knowing certain individuals or being involved in specific events. Questions are asked about affiliations with the 'slime' group and involvement in a gambling house shooting, but the speaker repeatedly denies certain recollections or clarifies earlier misunderstandings. The speaker expresses uncertainty about various details, including the timeline of events and involvement of others.

05:06

🏥 Hospital Alibi and Denying Conversations

The speaker provides an alibi, stating they were in the hospital on the day of a key event in 2015. They claim that if a proper investigation were conducted, it would show they couldn't have been present for the alleged conversation about a murder. The speaker denies conversations with Shannon about the murder, stating they lied to police officers about the details. They admit to lying about Shannon’s involvement, suggesting they blamed Shannon because they didn’t get along with him.

10:07

🛑 Denying Specific Details About Gang Conflict

This paragraph revolves around the speaker denying having been told about key details involving the murder of Donovan Thomas by Shannon and Yak. The speaker admits to lying during police interrogations and emphasizes that Shannon 'doesn’t talk.' The speaker denies knowing certain individuals, including someone named Nard. There is also a discussion about potential retaliation from another gang, with the speaker repeatedly saying that they were lying to the police about key details and incidents surrounding the murder and the aftermath.

15:13

✈️ Trip to Miami and Denial of Murder Involvement

The speaker recalls a trip to Miami after Donovan Thomas’s murder but is uncertain about the exact timing of the trip. They mention various individuals who accompanied them, such as Shannon, Woody, and Yak, but deny knowing if Nard went. The speaker mentions telling the police about Thug’s prior commitments in Miami but doesn’t remember all the details of their stay or whether they left due to boredom. The speaker also denies knowing about Woody being scared during the trip and denies that Thug’s behavior was affected by the murder.

20:15

😡 Frustration and Denial of Involvement with the Murder

The speaker expresses frustration over the police and others trying to implicate Thug in the murder of Donovan Thomas. They admit to having been upset with others, like Shannon, and claim that Thug distanced himself from negativity. The speaker continues to emphasize that Thug had no involvement in the planning or execution of the murder and that any suggestions otherwise were false. The speaker also addresses a personal dislike of others involved and denies several accusations related to the crime and Thug’s awareness of it.

Keywords

💡Slime

In the context of the transcript, 'slime' refers to a term often associated with a gang culture or close-knit group, particularly linked to YSL (Young Slime Life). It is a term used to denote loyalty or membership. The speaker is asked if they considered themselves 'slime' in 2015, indicating its association with the gang, but they deny being part of it.

💡YSL (Young Slime Life)

YSL refers to a gang associated with criminal activities in Atlanta. In the transcript, the prosecution questions the speaker about YSL's involvement in various crimes, suggesting that YSL was involved in gang-related shootings and other illegal activities. YSL is at the core of the investigation discussed in the video.

💡Rock Crew

'Rock Crew' is another gang or group mentioned in the transcript, potentially linked or contrasted with YSL. The prosecution questions whether 'Rock Crew' and YSL were the same, but the speaker denies this, indicating that these two groups may have distinct identities within the context of Atlanta's gang scene.

💡Kelvin Treadwell (OG Bentley)

Kelvin Treadwell, also known as 'OG Bentley,' is a key figure in the investigation. He appears to be a person of interest involved in the same criminal case as the speaker. The speaker confirms their association with Treadwell in 2019 and links him to events discussed in the testimony, such as gun-related crimes.

💡Donovan Thomas

Donovan Thomas, referred to as 'Nut,' was a victim of a murder that is a central topic in the transcript. The murder of Thomas in 2015 is connected to gang violence, and the prosecution attempts to link YSL and other parties to his death. The speaker gives conflicting statements about their knowledge of the murder.

💡MLK

MLK refers to Martin Luther King Jr. Drive, a location in Atlanta that seems to be the site of several gang-related events, including shootings mentioned in the testimony. The reference to 'MLK' highlights the specific locations where criminal activity and gang confrontations have occurred.

💡Gambling House Incident

The 'Gambling House Incident' refers to a specific event where the gambling house was shot at, allegedly involving individuals connected to YSL. The speaker denies being inside the gambling house during the shooting, though the prosecution suggests otherwise. This incident is key to understanding the tensions between rival gangs.

💡Woody and Munk

Woody and Munk are individuals connected to YSL who are mentioned in relation to several shootings. They are implicated in an alleged retaliation shooting following an attack at the gambling house. The speaker is questioned about Woody and Munk's role in escalating gang tensions, though they claim not to remember.

💡Retaliatory Shooting

A 'retaliatory shooting' refers to a shooting carried out in response to a previous attack. The transcript discusses whether members of YSL or affiliated gangs participated in such shootings as acts of revenge, including the shooting that followed Donovan Thomas's murder. This concept is central to the gang warfare narrative.

💡Probation

Probation is mentioned in the context of the speaker’s legal status. The speaker states they are currently on probation, which implies they have been convicted of a crime and are serving their sentence outside of prison, under specific conditions. The speaker's probation status is used to contextualize their involvement in criminal cases.

Highlights

The witness denies being part of the 'slime' group in 2015 and confirms they still do not consider themselves part of it today.

The witness confirms knowing Kelvin Treadwell, also known as OG Bentley, and admits to being on a case with him while on probation.

In a cross-examination, the witness denies telling police that YSL and 'Rock Crew' were the same thing, despite earlier statements suggesting otherwise.

The witness denies being inside the gambling house during a shooting incident, contradicting a previous statement made to detectives.

The witness claims they were lying in previous statements made to detectives about the involvement of certain individuals, such as Shannon and Yak, in shootings and murders.

The witness states they were in the hospital earlier on the day of Donovan Thomas’s murder and could not have been involved in discussions about the murder.

The witness acknowledges they were trying to shift blame onto Shannon, whom they had personal conflicts with, admitting to fabricating details about Shannon's gun being out of bullets.

The witness clarifies they never saw Shannon the night of the murder and only saw him the following morning, further denying involvement.

The witness admits to falsely telling detectives that Nard had an AK-762 during Donovan Thomas’s murder and acknowledges fabricating several details due to personal issues.

The witness denies knowing a person named Nard and claims they were lying about the involvement of specific individuals in the murder of Donovan Thomas.

The witness states they traveled to Miami but cannot remember whether it was immediately after Donovan Thomas’s murder or not.

The witness recalls telling police they stayed in Miami for two days but now claims they do not remember the details of the stay.

The witness denies knowing whether Woody was afraid and stayed on the couch while in Miami due to fear of retaliation.

The witness asserts that Young Thug distanced himself from Woody and other individuals to avoid negative influences and drama.

The witness insists that they were lying in their previous police statements regarding Young Thug's knowledge of or involvement in Donovan Thomas’s murder, trying to refute implications of Thug's involvement.

Transcripts

we talked yester yesterday about slime

and you said that you weren't slime back

in

2015 do you consider yourself slime

today no no okay um for the record he

shook his head no I said no I said no

okay and yesterday you did not recall

knowing Kelvin Treadwell did you know

Kelvin Treadwell in

2019 or OG Bentley I'm on a case with

I'm on probation yes I know okay I'm

going to show you what we have marked as

States

exhibit

5 08 Yankee if anyone

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from Council for either of the

defendants wants to see it your honor

I'll just leave a copy or give them a

copy of this all right

is the case that you are on with Mr

Treadwell I'm going to leave you 508

Yankee if you would just look at it and

let me know if that's the case okay

thank you

Mr and you said yes just for the record

correct yes all right

now at the time in 2015 if we were

talking about rock crew and YSL Rock

crew and YSL you would consider the

same same thing right oh no

okay did you tell Dennis and Gaither

that rock crew and wiel were the same

thing

okay

right and when we talked

yesterday you were telling the jury or I

asked you rather about um the incident

at the gambling house the incident at

the gambling house where Kel shot at the

gambling house Thug and you were inside

the gambling house at the time that it

was shot at is that right oh no okay did

you tell Gaither and Dennis in August

2015 that Thug and you were inside the

gambling house at the time that it got

shot out oh

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no did Woody and Munk shoot at kale on

MLK after Kell shot at the gaming house

I don't know okay did you tell Gaither

and Dennis that Woody and mon tunk shot

at Kell on MLK after Kell shot at the

gambling

house the video that you and M tunk made

where M tunk was shouting out Kell was

made in January after the shooting at

the gambling house is that right

oh and in that video mon tun was mad

about trivia right I don't remember did

you tell detectives Gaither and Dennis

in August

2015 that the video was made in January

I don't remember did you tell them it

was made after the Dugout got shot out

while Thug and you were inside I don't

remember and did you tell them that mun

was mad about trivia I don't remember

right

when talking

to uh let me ask you this

did the tension between

YSL and if gang escalate after Woody and

Munk shot at kale I don't remember

okay the night that Donovan Thomas got

murdered January 10th

2015 Shannon and Yak were the two who

first told you that they caught nut down

bad correct no I li okay did you tell

detectives gther and Dennis that they

told you that first I think I did that

okay

and they both told you that it was

Shannon Yak nard

doop who caught nut down bad and killed

them I li okay and the way that you

can't hang on just a second are youall

not able to hear what he's saying pull

that the mic with the red on it pull

that up right up next to you so that you

can talk into that thank you

you and

shanon were at Thug's condo when you

were talking about how they killed nard

is that right I mean how they kill nut

is that right I lied if you would have

checked in investigator y would see I

was in the hospital okay and when you

say you were in the hospital are you

saying you were in the hospital on

January 10th

2015 earlier that day yes then I went

home I was sleep

okay

now nard was not at the condo when you

all were talking about that right we

never talked about that okay did you

tell Dennis and Gaither in August 2015

that nard was not at the condo a lot all

right did you tell better yet did

Shannon go to

leave and to see a girl while you were

at the

condo what is Lee I'm sorry what is

Lee where is what is Lee did he leave

did he get up to leave I wasn't there I

told you if yall would have did y

investigation for real y'all would see

okay I was sick in the hospital early

that day so I couldn't have been okay

did you tell detective G denn I lied I

had got caught with a gun that had 100

shes on it so I was just lying okay now

did Shannon's gun did Shannon say his

gun had no more bullets Shannon never

told me anything Shannon don't even

talk okay did you tell detective Gaither

and Dennis that Shannon's y'all know

that Shannon's gun was out of bullets no

I was just looking to blame Shannon cuz

we just ain't we ain't never really get

along okay and did Shannon take mon

tunk's gun to leave when he went to go

to visit the girl and go to the store

because his gun was out of bullet I

never saw Shannon the night did you tell

detectives Gaither and Dennis that

because Shannon's gun was out of bullets

that he took this little

gun that mon had I know saw Shannon the

night I saw Shannon the next morning

did

you learn from Shannon and Yak that nard

had an AK

762 at the time that Donovan Thomas was

killed I was just lying cuz I knew I had

a 762 I really I really ain't no guns

off just line okay did you tell Gaither

and Dennis that nard had the AK 762

during the murder of Donovan Thomas I

told him what I was lying I was going

through all type of stuff just mad did

Shannon and Yak tell you that Shannon

had a

xb4 five at the time during the killing

of Donovan Thomas no Shannon or yet

never told me nothing about no killing I

was just lying did you tell detectives

Gaither and Dennis that Shannon had the

45

XB no at the time

he I if I did I was lying I know I came

back later on and told them that I was

lying on Shannon to do with okay we'll

get to that we'll get to that

quickly now did Shannon and Yak tell you

act thugs condo that they took the guns

and the car to OG Bentley OG Bentley

spot why we got keep talking about

decease I don't like talking about

Bentley now when you're talking about

Bentley is this the same person that you

indicated you're on your current case

with yes all right and

when is it that you said he was deceased

I don't know for sure I just heard okay

so you don't know that he's deceased no

okay but he definitely was on this case

with you that you pleed to in

2019 yes all

right and OG Bentley is the same person

as Kelvin Treadwell correct yeah okay

and his name is listed on that

disposition in front of you right yes

all right

and then

Bentley then they took the rental car

back after Bentley hid the guns

according to Shannon and Yak correct

Shannon and Y never told me nothing if

men would W the rental car how can they

still have it okay and you told

detectives Gaither and Dennis that after

Bentley hid the guns they took the

rental car back

right I don't remember okay

Shannon and Yak began or rather Shannon

began telling you um exactly what

happened when they killed Donovan Thomas

after he had to ask mon tun for the gun

because his was out of bullets is that

right no I lied on Shannon I didn't see

Shannon until the next morning did you

tell the police that Shannon and you

began talking about the murder of

Donovan Thomas after Shannon had to ask

mon tunk for his gun yes I told the

police that but I was ly okay did

Shannon tell you that he and Yak were

going to pick up yak's girl Bushi they

were going to meet bushie but they

[ __ ] up and seen nothing Shannon never

told me nothing Shannon don't even talk

did you tell the police on August 5th

2015 that Shannon told you they were

going to meet Bushi and [ __ ] up in Saw

nut I told him that when I

did they did Shannon tell you that they

then roll back around and started

shooting at nut no sh never told me

nothing I just I keep telling you the

man don't even talk for real okay I have

to ask you these questions okay we're

going to get through this a little bit

faster than yesterday

okay is that right is that all right Mr

Zachary all right did you tell the

police that Shannon told you that after

seeing n they rolled back around and

started shooting at

them ever r a lot Shannon never told me

nothing

did is it true that Shannon nor Yak ever

mentioned that Kell was unseen or that

they saw Kell outside with nut shanon

yet never told me nothing I told you I

got caught with a gun that had aund shes

on it and I was just looking at her like

[ __ ] I ain't no Shannon like that anyway

okay did you tell the police that

Shannon and Yak never mentioned Kelvin

watt being on scene I don't know if I

did did Shannon and Yak tell you um that

part of the reason that they shot n was

because they believed that during a gang

meeting on MLK an if gang meeting nut

put YSL and 30 deep on a

plate or meaning nut gave the green

light for members of if gang to harm

members of YSL and 30d shanon oh yet

never told me nothing did you tell the

police that that is what they told

you I think I did but I was lying

okay after nut was killed did you get

shot at by if gang on Empire park off of

Cleveland

Avenue no did you believe that if gain

was who shot at you no did you believe

that it was a retaliatory

shooting no did you tell the police that

if gang shot at you at Empire park off

Cleveland Avenue and that it was a

retaliatory shooting if I did I was

lying okay did you tell the police as

well that you learned that it was if

gang only after d and Thug got on

Twitter and started

tweeting I a never saw tweet on Twitter

nothing like that before so I had to be

lying

okay so that's the next question did

Dean Thug get on Twitter and start

tweeting we shoot at

them they make a police report they

shoot at us we say nothing something of

that effect who said that who made that

did you tell the police about that I

don't know

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okay is it true that nard said nothing

about the shooting before you all left

from

Atlanta I keep telling the night of

Donan Thomas is I don't even know no

nard you don't know a nard

okay do you know a ram or person that

you call Rambo somebody I was locked up

with name Rambo

okay did you Shannon D Woody and Yak go

to Miami the morning after Donovan

Thomas got murdered we went to Miami I

don't know if it was the morning after

okay did you tell the police that you

all went the morning after I told you we

went but I don't remember if it was the

morning after okay I understand do you

remember what you told the police I

don't remember and did nard also go to

Miami I don't know no

n okay did you tell the police that nard

went to Miami as well but he left before

you Shannon D Woody and

Yak I don't know did Thug leave for

Miami before you all by you all I mean

you Shan and D Woody Yak

andar I think I told him that he had

shows already down

okay and did you tell the police that is

what you just said that he had show

already down there so yes he look before

okay and once you got to Miami did you

Shannon D Yak nard and Woody stay at

birman's we stayed somewhere I don't

remember I think we stayed at a hotel I

don't remember did you tell the police

that you all stayed at burman's I don't

remember did you all stay for about 2

days I don't remember okay did you all

leave Miami because you all got

bored I don't remember did you tell the

police that you all stayed for about two

days I don't remember did you say to the

police in August 2015 you left cuz you

got bored I don't remember while you

were in Miami was Woody laying around on

the couch all day because he was afraid

I don't I don't really know Wy be afraid

but I don't remember did you tell the

police that Woody didn't really get up

off the couch cuz he was scared because

his homes were getting shot up I don't

remember

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okay did you tell the police that after

all of that Thug stopped hanging with

Rudy as hard as he had before I told the

police that th didn't want all that

drama around them that's what I told the

police if you going to say that okay

is it true that Thug stopped hanging

with Woody after all of that for

whatever reason that you have to tell

the jury I I said he stopped hanging

around all the negativity that's what I

told them they kept trying to make it

seem like he was telling people to do

this and he was telling people to do

that and I told them he ain't even like

that and they like I don't believe he

tell Y what to do don't tell them what

they said about that okay but you is it

fair to say that you believe

y honor that was nonresponsive and

additionally he is giving hearsay that

I've not

elicited your honor and we've not asked

for

hearsay we not did you have anything to

add to that answer Mr Zachary I said

what I said all right move on is it true

that you believed that Thug found out

about Donovan Thomas's murder after

the murder itself he had to find out out

the whole world found out out and did

you tell the police that you believe

that Thug found out after it

happened I mean it's Common Sense how

can he know

beforehand did you was nard and mun

always on go as members of YSL I don't

know no n did you tell the police that

nard and mun were always on go because

they were the oldest two I don't know

did Bentley sell weight or a lot of

drugs Bentley ain't never sld no drugs

to me so how know did you tell the

police that Bentley sold weight see I

told the police that by Bentley because

Boo used to always tell us that U if the

police come get us just put everything

on

Bentley was Bentley Thug's Road manager

at that time I don't know did you tell

the police that Bentley was Thug's Road

manager I don't know was Bentley spot a

brick house with a fence that if gang

shot up I don't know did you tell the

police that Bentley spot was a brick

house with a fence Bentley never had

nothing to do with it I told I was just

putting it on

Bentley now why would they shoot at him

and Fe their

brother-in-law did

you did Thug act normal while you all in

Miami how he post that did you tell the

police that he acted normal I'm saying

why would he act normal what he did did

Thug asked yak and

Shannon and nard why they killed nut

while you were in Miami no did you tell

the police that Thug acted normal and

asked them why they killed nut while you

were in miam I said that cuz they kept

trying to make a scene like thought had

something to do with that and I was mad

at shining them well I wasn't mad I just

ain't like them