Most compelling Whoop Product in Years // Mobula 6 ECO // HD-Zero ECO Kit

Nick Burns
10 Mar 202428:12

Summary

TLDRThis video reviews the Mobil 6 HD0, specifically the 'Eco' version, highlighting its features such as SE 0702 28,000 KV motors, gemfan 128 tri-bladed 31 mm props, and the Super X HD flight controller with ExpressLRS. The reviewer discusses the HD0 ecosystem, camera settings, firmware updates, and provides flight demonstrations both indoors and outdoors with different camera settings. Insights on video reception, the importance of battery quality, and the impact of camera settings on image quality are shared. The video concludes with a crash reel to demonstrate durability and suggestions for potential improvements in future models.

Takeaways

  • πŸ“Έ The video provides an in-depth review of the Mobil 6 HD0 Eco, including both indoor and outdoor flight tests with suggested camera settings.
  • πŸ’° The Mobil 6 Eco features SE 0702 28,000 KV Motors, gemfan 128 Tri-bladed 31 mm props, and comes with the HD0 Eco system for VTX and camera, retailing at $150.
  • πŸ”Ž The HD0 Eco VTX and camera combo eliminates the need for a mippy cable, opting instead for a simple four-wire setup, and is priced at $70.
  • πŸ›  The flight controller is the Super X HD, equipped with ExpressLRS and motor connectors, a notable upgrade from the analog version.
  • 🚩 The reviewer highlights the importance of firmware updates for the VTX and camera combo, showing how it affects image quality and performance.
  • πŸ“Ί Camera settings are crucial; the video demonstrates the significant difference they make, with before and after footage for comparison.
  • πŸ“± Audio for the flight footage is recorded separately using a cellphone to enhance the viewing experience.
  • πŸ’ͺ Durability is tested through a crash reel, showcasing the product's resilience in various flying conditions and crashes.
  • πŸ’» The HD0 Eco system's camera settings are adjustable, and the video emphasizes the impact of these settings on image quality.
  • πŸš€ The Mobil 6 Eco's design facilitates easy repairs and upgrades, with the video pointing out specifics like the removal of the mippy cable and the introduction of longer mounting screws for stability.

Q & A

  • What is the main focus of the video?

    -The video focuses on reviewing the Mobil 6 HD0 version, specifically called the Eco, including its VTX and Camera combination. It covers indoor and outdoor flight tests with suggested camera settings, examines the impact of not updating the firmware, and discusses LED flying.

  • What are the specifications of the motors and propellers used in the Mobil 6 Eco?

    -The Mobil 6 Eco uses SE 0702 28,000 KV Motors with Gemfan 1219 Tri-bladed 31 mm props.

  • What makes the flight controller of the Mobil 6 Eco different from the analog version?

    -The Mobil 6 Eco's flight controller, named Super X HD, features Express LRS and motor connectors, unlike the analog version.

  • What are the notable features of the HD0 ecosystem in the Mobil 6 Eco?

    -The HD0 ecosystem in the Mobil 6 Eco is highlighted by a VTX and Camera combination without a mippy cable, instead using a four-wire setup for the HD0 camera.

  • What is the significance of the firmware update mentioned in the video?

    -The firmware update for the VTX and Camera combo is crucial for enhancing video signal performance and potentially adjusting camera settings, which can significantly impact the quality and performance of the system.

  • How does the reviewer conduct the indoor and outdoor flight tests?

    -Indoor flight tests are performed in a racing flight style, emphasizing low and fast flying. Outdoor flight tests showcase the drone's capabilities in different conditions and settings, including flight over a pool and through a cabana.

  • What is the importance of the camera settings suggested by HD0?

    -The suggested camera settings from HD0 make a dramatic difference in image quality, especially in correcting color tones like skin and wood, making the image appear more natural compared to the stock settings.

  • What are the implications of flying without updating the firmware?

    -Flying without updating the firmware might not utilize the improved camera settings and enhancements in video signal performance, potentially resulting in a lower quality flying experience.

  • What additional accessories come with the Mobil 6 Eco?

    -The Mobil 6 Eco package includes mounting grommets, longer mounting screws for better canopy support, a screwdriver, extra set of props, motor mounting screws, a prop remover, and three sheets of stickers.

  • How does the construction and design of U.S. residential houses affect video reception during indoor flights?

    -The typical construction of U.S. residential houses using sheetrock and wood generally provides a favorable environment for video reception during indoor flights, as opposed to concrete walls and RF interference in apartments.

Outlines

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πŸš€ Introduction to the Mobil 6 HD0 Eco and Camera Review

The video begins with an introduction to the Mobil 6 HD0 Eco version, also known as the VTX and Camera combo, and the plan to review its performance with suggested camera settings through both inside and outside flights. The script mentions the inclusion of SE 0702 28,000 KV Motors, gemfan 128 Tri bladed 31 mm props, and the Super X HD flight controller with Express LRS and motor connectors. The Eco system replaces the need for a mippy cable, and the battery connection is a BT20-compatible A30. The weight of the Eco and its components are also discussed, along with recommendations for compatible batteries and the importance of using longer screws for mounting.

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πŸ“Ά Discussing Video Reception and Firmware Updates

The paragraph focuses on the video reception when flying in different environments, such as apartments with concrete walls and the impact of RF interference from neighbors. The importance of flying on R8 frequency to avoid Wi-Fi interference is highlighted. The script also discusses the author's position affecting video reception and their preference for batteries to end at 3.5 volts. A comparison is made between the flight experience with the new camera settings and the stock settings, noting the difference in coloration and naturalness of the image. The outside flight experience is also shared, with observations on color shades and image clarity.

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🌟 LED Flying and Product Pricing

This paragraph discusses the excitement of LED flying, particularly for racing enthusiasts, and the setup of various gates for these events. The speaker shares their experience with different types of gates and the importance of having a suitable space for flying. They also mention the potential need to recharge batteries and adjust settings for LED flying. The paragraph concludes with the pricing details of the Mobil 6 Eco and the HD0 VTX, emphasizing their affordability and the value they offer to HD zero users.

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πŸ“¦ Unboxing and Initial Impressions

The speaker shares their initial impressions upon unboxing the Mobil 6 Eco, discussing the default settings and the possibility of reverting to a widescreen format with future firmware updates. They also mention the importance of the VTX programmer for HD zero users to simplify the firmware update process. The paragraph includes a crash reel showcasing the durability of the product and the speaker's experience with various crashes, emphasizing the flexibility and resilience of the frame.

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πŸ”§ Pit Tune Recommendations and Component Weights

The paragraph delves into the pit tune settings, including startup power and boost, and the potential long-term effects on the ESC. The speaker shares their experience with the weight of the Eco and its components, highlighting the importance of using quality batteries for longer flight times. They also discuss the benefits of using longer screws for a more secure build and the impact of antenna weight on flight performance. The paragraph concludes with a discussion on the battery lead length and the suggestion to use right-angle connectors for better battery positioning.

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🏎️ Personal Experiences and Future Plans

The speaker reflects on their personal experiences with flying whoops, discussing the popularity of 65 mm sizes for races and their own preference for 75 mm whoops. They emphasize the importance of practice and patience for new flyers and share their plans to use the Eco in outdoor builds and different configurations. The paragraph ends with an invitation for viewers to ask questions about the Eco and a mention of additional resources for learning to fly.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Mobil 6 HD0

The Mobil 6 HD0 is a specific model of a drone featured in the video. It is a miniaturized version of a racing drone, designed for indoor and outdoor flying. The script mentions various components and features of this drone, such as its motors, props, and flight controller, indicating its significance to the video's theme of drone performance and setup.

πŸ’‘VTX

VTX stands for Video Transmitter, a crucial component in FPV (First Person View) drones that sends the video feed from the drone's camera to the pilot's goggles or monitor. The video discusses the VTX in the context of the Mobil 6 HD0, highlighting its combination with the camera and the importance of firmware updates for optimal performance.

πŸ’‘Camera Settings

Camera settings pertain to the adjustable parameters on a drone's camera that can affect the quality and appearance of the video feed. The video emphasizes the importance of these settings, showing how suggested settings from the manufacturer can dramatically improve the video quality compared to default settings.

πŸ’‘Firmware

Firmware refers to the software that controls the hardware of devices like drones. In the context of the video, firmware updates are discussed as essential for unlocking the full potential of the drone's VTX and camera, improving aspects like video signal and image quality.

πŸ’‘Flight Controller

A flight controller is the electronic device that governs the functions of a drone, including stabilization and response to pilot inputs. The Super X HD flight controller mentioned in the script is integral to the performance of the Mobil 6 HD0 drone, as it processes the drone's movements and ensures stable flight.

πŸ’‘FPV

FPV stands for First Person View, a style of drone flying where the pilot wears goggles that display the video feed directly from the drone's camera, providing an immersive experience as if they were actually in the drone. The video discusses various aspects of FPV flying, including the importance of video quality and the pilot's personal style.

πŸ’‘Battery

Batteries are a critical component of drones, providing the power needed for flight. The video discusses the type of batteries recommended for the Mobil 6 HD0, the weight of the drone with batteries, and the importance of battery performance for flight time.

πŸ’‘Antenna

An antenna is a device used in communication systems, including drones, to transmit and receive signals. In the context of the video, the antenna is part of the VTX and is crucial for the quality of the video transmission. The script discusses the stock antenna and the impact of losing it on the drone's performance.

πŸ’‘Crash Reel

A crash reel refers to a compilation of a drone's crashes during flight testing. It serves as a testament to the durability of the drone and its components. The video includes a crash reel to demonstrate the resilience of the Mobil 6 HD0 to crashes and impacts.

πŸ’‘Tuning

Tuning in the context of drones refers to adjusting the settings and parameters of the drone's components, such as the ESC (Electronic Speed Controller), to optimize performance. The video discusses the importance of tuning for achieving desired flight characteristics and improved efficiency.

πŸ’‘LED Flying

LED Flying refers to the practice of flying drones, particularly small ones like whoops, in environments with LED lights for added visual interest and challenge. The video includes an LED flying segment to demonstrate the drone's performance in a fun and visually dynamic setting.

Highlights

Overview of the Mobil 6 HD0 version, known as the Eco, and the VTX and Camera combo.

Inside flight with suggested camera settings for optimal performance.

Outside sample flight with suggested camera settings.

Comparison of full outside flight with default camera settings versus updated firmware.

Inspection of the Mobil 6 Eco's components, including SE 0702 28,000 KV Motors and Gemfan 128 Tri bladed 31 mm props.

Discussion on the absence of mippy cable and the four wire setup for the HD0 camera.

Recommendations for battery choice and weight considerations for the Mobil 6 Eco.

Explanation of the importance of antenna selection for video reception and performance.

Demonstration of the impact of camera settings on video quality, especially in skin tones and wood colors.

Discussion on the significance of flying in R8 frequency band to avoid Wi-Fi interference.

Revelation of the author's personal flight style and preferences for FPV flying.

Analysis of the durability and crashworthiness of the Mobil 6 Eco.

Overview of the LED flying experience and its application for racer friends and whoop events.

Pricing details for the Mobil 6 Eco and the HD0 VTX and Camera combo.

Discussion on the importance of longer screws for securing the canopy and preventing breakage.

Explanation of the ESC configurator settings and their potential impact on the longevity of the components.

Personal anecdote on the author's progression and experience with indoor flying.

Transcripts

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hello everyone in this video we're going

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to take a look at the Mobil 6 hd0

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version which is called the Eco in the

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VTX and Camera which is also called the

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Eco

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of course we're going to have an inside

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flight with the suggested camera

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settings we're going to have an outside

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sample flight with the suggested camera

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settings uh the full outside flight

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we'll have the default camera settings

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uh we'll also take a look at what it

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looks like when you don't update the

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first firmware on the VTX and Camera

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combo and uh we'll do a little LED

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flying as well so there's a lot to get

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to so let's get started just like with

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the analog version of the mobile6 2024

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Edition we have SE 0702 28,000 KV Motors

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and on those Motors are the gemfan 128

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Tri bladed 31 mm props the flight

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controller is the Super X HD and it does

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come with Express lrs as well as motor

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connectors which we didn't have on the

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analog version the previously mentioned

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hd0 ecos system which is their VTX and

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Camera combination and you'll notice no

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more mippy cable I don't know how they

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did that but we just have a four wire

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setup for this hd0 camera battery

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connection is the a30 which is bt20

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compatible as we see here the mob 6 Eco

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weighs 23 12 G I fly and recommend the

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wee bed fpv as well as Tiny woop.com 1s

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batteries and with one of those

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batteries our all up flying weight comes

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in at almost 32 G the hd0 Eco weighs 6

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.76 G with the stock antenna that it

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comes with mobus 6 did not come with the

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same antenna it came with what we see is

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more traditional and because we love it

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motor post to motor post it comes in at

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65 mm the hd0 Eco does come with the

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lead and connector that you need to

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connect up to your flight controller as

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well as mounting grommets the Mobil 6

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Eco does come with your traditional

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assortments note that they have longer

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mounting screws which is a smart move

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although I did recommend that they use

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larger headed uh long screws for Mount

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this canopy down uh we also get a small

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screwdriver an extra set of props uh we

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get some motor mounting screws as well

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as the obligatory prop remover that

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really doesn't prop remove and we also

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get three sheets of stickers so before

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we start the inside flight I do want to

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show you the camera settings cuz I found

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that they do make a dramatic difference

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outside of the firmware cuz I originally

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started flying this on whatever firmware

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they shipped it on and then I flew it

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for about 10 days and then HD zero came

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back and said hey we have a firmware

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update so I slapped that on there and

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we'll get to all that but these were the

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settings that they sent and I think Carl

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from HD zero knows that I don't like to

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change the settings when it comes to

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reviews uh but in this case I thought it

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was it came before my review anyways and

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I thought I could show it as well as

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show it in the default view uh that you

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would get with the firmware version that

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uh at this time it is running of course

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with hd0 or with HD systems the firmware

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is kind of always maturing and it's

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always changing and whether that effects

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or camera or our video signal

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performance you know that's kind of what

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the firmware changes are built around or

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designed for uh but these are the

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settings that they sent uh don't worry

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if you're not capturing this on screen I

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will go ahead and put it on screen after

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we get done with all the flying so you

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can just see the the type text of the

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settings and you can write those down or

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capture those uh or whatever method you

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like to capture those on uh hopefully uh

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future firmware versions will just come

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with those camera settings and this is

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our inside flight uh I'm going to take

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off here just momentarily there we go uh

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so this is going to be my traditional

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flight style u i shouldn't presume but

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you know my flight style inside is kind

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of a racing flight style it's kind of

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where I started at and it's kind of

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where fpv and my joy for FV came was

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kind of flying low and fast and kind of

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that pod rer sort of flight feel uh so

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the audio does not come from the VTX I

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get that question a lot I think that's a

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a question of Innocence many of our

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veterans know I use a secondary camera

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it's actually a cell phone and then I

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bring that audio from the cell phone

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into the flight footage so this was one

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of my most recent flights because it

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does have the new camera settings uh

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also something to note about video

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reception is you know our houses here in

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the US are built with traditional uh

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cardboard that's a joke it's not

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cardboard it's sheetrock and wood for

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the most part uh industrially you will

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find some uh aluminum studs as well as

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different uh wall boards but you know

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for residential sort of construction

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this is uh what we have and our floor

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plan sets out pretty well for video

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reception so if you are flying in an

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apartment that has concrete walls and

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you have a lot of

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RF uh floating around from various

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neighbors and stuff your video reception

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might not be as good uh of course I

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always recommend flying R8 which I am in

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this particular video because R8 gets us

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up above uh Wi-Fi frequency and that is

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the best possible solution at least

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while you're flying alone uh so do know

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that my position also matters if I fly

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sitting in the basement my reception on

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the main floor is not nearly as good so

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this position is also important to the

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video reception uh now I haven't even

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talked about the quad and I'm almost 2

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minutes into this uh so I like my

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batteries to also end at 3.5 volts after

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I come back to my landing spot and

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disarm and kind of give them a moment to

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uh their voltage to increase and right

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there at the end of the flight I ran

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softly I would note ran in to the chair

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and we've ended the flight now at the

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table where I am sitting 204 on the

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flight time and that is pretty

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traditional for me to get somewhere

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between some of my faster flights were

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at like 155 and then other flights were

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at like 210 to

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215 uh so this is a sample uh I wanted

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to show you this first before we go to

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the outside flight the full flight that

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I'm going to show you Cas of course you

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can look at this and take away from it

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what you will uh but this is with those

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camera settings because the flight that

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we're a go to which was the designated

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outside flight for me I didn't have

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these settings yet uh so I was flying it

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on the stock setting so you'll get to

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see the difference just know that this

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section of flight that I'm kind of

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narrating through is so that you can see

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what it looks like with the camera

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settings that are suggested from hd0 and

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I do think those camera settings do make

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quite a bit of difference because the

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stock settings uh the main thing I

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noticed was like the skin tones and the

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wood really had an orange sort of flavor

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to them uh so the setting changes that

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they have I took that away and it

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actually make the image appear much more

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natural than it did on the stalk or

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default settings that I received uh with

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the firmware update that I am

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running and here is the outside flight

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that I was speaking of this is on the

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default settings you can tell that the

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Blues in the sky are a much different

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shade uh you probably also notice uh

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just various other colorations just

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aren't quite as good um I think the

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picture is about as clear but I

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shouldn't talk too much about the

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clarity of the image uh because I am not

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all that Discerning of course the sun is

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lower during this flight this I believe

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is an afterwork flight before I start

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running kids around to the various

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places they go in the

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evenings and I do outside flights on

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these for a lot of different reasons

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because whoops aren't just for inside

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flying some people like to fly whoops in

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small playgrounds which are really fun

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to go through the tubes uh on those

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playgrounds when my kids were younger

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and they used to be in those playgrounds

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I I used to do that I didn't feature it

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much on the channel but it was something

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that I enjoyed was flying around those

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Jungle Gym sort of tubby sort of

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playground sets that they have uh or you

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just have a smaller space maybe between

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your house in the the neighbor's house

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uh they're also very very small so

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they're not very alarming to any folks

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who might get concerned about uh quads

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or drones flying in their area uh you

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show them something like this and

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they're kind of like oh well that that

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thing's tiny excuse the noise I do have

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kids at home as spring break has

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started but I think for one s it's very

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viable outside you can do just about

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everything I normally would do you just

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do it on a smaller scale and that

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shouldn't be surprising because we're

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flying on a smaller scale right uh they

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could be most fun in shooting particular

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gaps I have to be careful when I'm

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around the pool because you'll notice

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some water on the pool cover so if I

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Bonk into something and I crash out

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there there's a probability that I might

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not make it out of there oh yeah and I

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had a crash right there too that was a

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little bit of danger

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there also when I'm over in that Cabana

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that outdoor living space area I am

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flying behind myself so I really don't

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have any antennas helping us out there

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so if you see some of that breakup yeah

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I'm flying behind myself and I'm not

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even facing that direction at all so

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that's not very beneficial it would be

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most beneficial if I turn myself uh

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probably about another 25 to 30Β° to my

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right that would kind of cover the area

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a little bit better but the flight has

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ended outside we got 2 minutes and 10

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seconds because we have longer runs less

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tighter turns and our batter is in good

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shape at 3 53 probably could have flown

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another second or two and of course this

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is our LED run this is for all our racer

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friends or people that like to go to

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whoop events whoop events are

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notoriously fun I think I actually said

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notoriously fun in the last uh video

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when I talked about whoops but I have

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various Gates out uh Mobil Gates I don't

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believe is operating anymore even though

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their website is up it doesn't appear as

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you can order uh we bed fpv which is the

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two Cube Gates you've got the flexible

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Cube gate and the PVC the multicolored

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one up there uh those are available as

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well as has uh there's another wee bed

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gate just a single hoop gate sitting

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down there on the floor of course Tiny

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whoop sells Gates newbie drone sells

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Gates you can get lots of gates uh at

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various places Gates tend to be a little

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bit of an expense I can't remember the

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pricing on it but I do know those Cube

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Gates especially the PVC one is is

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fairly expensive and they do have two

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different sizes I've Got The Big Cube

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gate sitting on the table back there so

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you might want a smaller one cuz that

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one I have to break down in order to put

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it away and get it through a doorway

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back there

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but this is also on the old camera

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settings uh I didn't have an opportunity

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to recharge batteries and get everything

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set back up uh for the new camera

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settings so that's something else I need

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to make sure I make a strongest point of

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when it comes to this led flying is this

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was with the default settings uh which I

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suspect this would all be improved and

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if needed please let me know I can come

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back uh maybe in another week I'll get

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another opportunity to charge batteries

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and whatnot and and get the Gat set back

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up and do another flight with the

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updated camera settings more than

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willing to do that but if it's not

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really necessary no reason to fill up

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your YouTube subscriptions with another

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video that you know only a couple of

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people are interested in the mob 6 Eco

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should debut at $150 which some of you

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might be surprised at that price point I

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know I was and the Eco VTX hd0 that

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should be debuting at

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$70 so if you're an HD zero user to me

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especially being a micro guy this seems

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like a no-brainer unless there's

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something in the other H HD zero cameras

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that you're looking for uh mounting is

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one thing for the camera you know it

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it's only got those two screw holes at

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the front so mounting the camera is

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something where you're going to have to

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keep that camera in mind but for

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$70 and I have beat this up and I have a

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crash reel for you as well I have flown

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this well I got this at the same time

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that I got the mobilus 6 uh 2024 the

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analog version and so I've been kind of

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flying them side by side for for the

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most part over the course of the last

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two plus weeks it might be 16 or 17 days

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and I can always fly inside over lunch

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and in the evenings and stuff like that

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so I've got a lot of flights on this

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already and uh when we get down to the

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desk I will show you the uh crash reel

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that I have which I think in many

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regards is that durability test that

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most people want to see with new

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products but before we get to the crash

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reel and some desk details I do think

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it's important to show you how this

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shipped to me now originally when this

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came to me I'm kind of being redundant

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there with my words I guess I'm sorry

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about that uh it came with a widescreen

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format which some people might ask hey I

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want to fly that format can I go back to

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that with the new firmware no that does

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not appear to be an option right now

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hopefully we will see that option if the

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community calls for it I know a lot of

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people fly tiny whoops in 43 um

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basically because it's probably the most

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comfortable for most people but if you

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want the WID stream format the best

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thing you can do is either send a

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message to hd0 or leave a comment down

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in the comment section uh letting hd0

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know that you want the widescreen format

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back uh of course at this time this is

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running on the default settings as it

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came out of the box as well uh so there

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probably is some uh enhancement we can

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make to this image uh either be the

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color and saturation and brightness

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settings to make it more like the 4-3

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version that I showed you after the

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camera changes but just know that this

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is how the camera comes out of the box

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so if you're wondering why you know if

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you buy the Eco VTX and camera and then

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you wonder why yours looks differently

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than mine it's because you need to put

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firmware on it which if you don't have

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one of these VTX programmers from hd0

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yeah this this makes things so much

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easier and so much quicker you don't

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have to worry about heating up your

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board because you got it plugged in too

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long or anything I highly recommend for

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our hd0 users that you have one of these

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VTX programmers it just it cleans up the

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process and makes it so much easier I'll

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put the crash reel over here it's about

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3 minutes of crashes just know that

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that's not all of my crashes uh there's

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none of the widescreen flight footage in

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the crashing I just went over my last I

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think it was two or three days of

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flights and pulled out the different

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crashes that I had uh many of them at

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the beginning of the section were where

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I was trying that move from the top

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floor of our house down through the

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stairwell and I just couldn't get it

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there's something about my uh technique

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or just my skill set I just wasn't

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getting it uh I pulled it off before a

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time or two but honestly it hasn't been

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something that I practice all that much

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uh but with this particular case and I

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had pretty much completed my flying as

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far as my satisfactory number of flights

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which is got to be close to 80 or 100 at

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this point on the

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Eco I went for I did two things at that

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point I did my speedrun which was uh the

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teaser clip at the very beginning that

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little short burst it was 25 30 seconds

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whatever I do that in order to just kind

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of push myself cuz cuz it's something I

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enjoy I enjoy trying to fly a little

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faster as well as you know when you have

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crashes when you're trying to fly a

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little faster uh does have to prove out

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the durability uh to a certain

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extent um so the crashes as well as uh

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the crash reel as well as my little uh

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pushing the speed sort of speed runs are

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all part of the process normally uh for

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me and as you can

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tell you know our pitch on our props

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might be a little bit bodged up or

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something like that but I don't think

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it's too bad I even think even with the

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props being as high as they are I still

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think the motor stems are in good shape

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um again just like with the analog

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version the frames are very flexible

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especially in these gaps like the bigger

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gaps over here on the sides very

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flexible very flexible this way as

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well uh but this is would be wouldn't it

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be the lightest hd0 bind andly setup

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it's got to be I can't think of one

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coming in any lower um so another thing

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that was important to me that did

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survive and you can kind of see on my

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canopy how this

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lip it got bodged so much or hit so much

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that it's kind of flattened out and you

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can see a little bit of the materials

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kind of come up uh so this canopy

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actually does a pretty reasonable job of

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protecting the camera as well as just

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the camera surviving all of my crashes

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now I mentioned it in my analog video

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but I did break off the motor screws or

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not excuse me not the motor screws the

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camera screws let me zoom in just a

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touch if you look at the length on both

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sides of where the camera screw mounts

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in here see how short that is down there

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versus on the analog version where I

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didn't break those you see how much

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longer that is yeah I did break those

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off uh I can't remember how far in I was

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I would say at about a week in and I

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just of course I lost the screws too so

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I had to pull out screws for my own

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stock and I just put it up against the

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screw mounts and just screwed the screws

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back in uh the screws I used didn't

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punch through the front of the canopy so

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that's something that about as as far as

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the damage goes you do need to notice

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that I did break the little screw mounts

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and there's only two of them one in each

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corner so that's our screw mount

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something else that uh it kind of is

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along that damages I lost three of the

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antennas that it came with so the flight

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that you saw on the inside flight with

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the new camera settings the main indoor

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flight that was with this particular

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antenna I can't say it's the best

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antenna or the worst antenna but what I

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was looking for in my stock was an

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antenna that is very very similar in

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length and style that what it ships with

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of course if you buy the Eco itself it

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comes in with this little antenna which

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doesn't have the metal shield around it

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which isn't critical to the operation

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but you know in the best case scenario

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uh for video reception that Shield does

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help a little bit uh but do note that uh

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stock Eco if you buy it just separately

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comes with this antenna or at least it

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comes with this antenna as far as how I

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received it I haven't gone into checking

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any tunes I actually thought the tun

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tune worked better for this heavier hd0

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or Eco version uh I I didn't feel as

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quite as much of a need to change the

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tune and when I was flying this one I

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was also experimenting with uh different

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props if you didn't see this video where

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I changed out the props and the pit tune

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uh I don't want to go into that

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explanation because I'm sure this video

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is already long but uh I'll link this

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video down in the video description but

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one thing that we did learn from this is

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that with the change in just the props

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and a little bit of a pit tune I got 30

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more seconds of indoor flight time so I

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would expect that if we made the same

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sort of change on this we get a similar

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sort of longer flight time result now

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that flight time was not slower flight

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that was my traditional ins inside sort

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of flying but yeah I think these props

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just aren't quite as efficient but of I

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do believe that gy fan has a lighter

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kind of counterpart to these HQ props

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available so you could go to those as

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well but I think these uh are just you

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know slightly heavier and they might

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have a little bit more pitch uh versus

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these particular props so if you're

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looking for more flight time out of your

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uh quad two things buy Quality Batteries

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U I'm not saying these are the only

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Quality Batteries that are the same

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basically all these batteries that are

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flat sell bt20 are all made by the same

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companies you just buy them with

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different brands these are the two I

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have I believe tattoos are the same I'm

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hearing about other brands I just I

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don't like to vouch for things that I

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haven't tried out myself so these are

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the two I can vouch for so these are the

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two I recommend so one of the things

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that happy model has learned and I don't

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know if I've actually suggested it or if

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they just watched you know some micro

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Channel or something but longer screws

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are really beneficial when it comes to

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these double stack uh sort of HD whoops

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it it it's almost critical because if

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you use a shorter screw the more

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traditional screw that's about half this

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size you're going to end up snapping off

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the post uh likely more than one in

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relatively short order but when you use

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a longer screw it gets down into the

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meat of the post it gets down into the

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frame and it just makes everything much

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more secure M much less likely to break

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and uh I'm not certain how they measure

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screws on for ordering them but I wanted

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to try to give you some idea of the

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screw length in this particular case so

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I'm going to measure it from head to

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point which I don't think is how they do

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it that looks to be a 10 mm screw I did

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suggest a happy model that they use a

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screw head that is bigger because it

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will hold the canopy down better if it

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has a bigger flat head oddly enough if

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you look at the analog version they used

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a bigger head on these screws but these

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aren't long screws uh so we'll see if

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they actually make that change on

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production versions at this time I can't

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say for certain until we start to see

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the production versions uh come out

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which this should be available as this

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video is released off the hd0 website

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and then we'll see this available from

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resellers uh about 2 weeks later which

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is about what we'd expect I think for

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the most part when it comes to uh

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product launches specifically with happy

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model and hd0 but uh and if you're

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wondering for your build purposes

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getting screws like this I've bought

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these screws from AliExpress from bang I

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think from bangood from eBay I know I've

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gotten some from eBay as well and I

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typically don't order with the smaller

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heads like this one I get the the bigger

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pan heads I think they're called where

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they're just hopefully you can see that

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maybe I get that closer how much bigger

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the head is and that will hold our

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canopies down that that's an important

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build aspect at least it is for me so

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something else that I did was I plugged

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it into blue J or escc configurator

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tocom and then I pulled up the blue jay

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version as you can see here on screen

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the max startup power is also maxed out

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just like it was on the mob 6 2024

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Edition so these flight controllers have

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been configured the same now it has been

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suggested that you can turn down the

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startup power and use more boost uh some

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people are wondering if these are

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settings that longterm would damage the

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ESC possibly I I have a hard time

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believing that but anything is possible

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and of course I've been

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flying both of these for the better part

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of over two weeks um so if it's going to

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damage him I would hope it would come

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within that period of time otherwise

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it's just like anything with our micro

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components that we slightly damaging

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them very very slowly you know one

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thousands of a percent with each

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particular crash and it may take you

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months in order to kill one or it could

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take you weeks depending upon how you

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fly how you crash and how hard you're

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going so I got the scale back out here I

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wanted to weigh just the Eco so 6.53 and

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then their specific antenna let's make

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sure that's where uh zeroed out uh the

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antenna that they have like that is 0.17

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so that weight is going to be hard to

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beat um I have some antennas from ort

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that come in around a half half a gram

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and traditionally the stock antenna

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comes in around 0.5 or 6 grams as well

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so not a huge amount of weight but when

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it comes to whoops depending upon how

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skilled you are or how you fly you may

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find that you notice the difference in

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these weights so it's something to be

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aware of while we're on the topic of the

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Eco bundle the camera and VTX I took

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some close-up pictures so those of you

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that know these components are concerned

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about the layout of these components can

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see them as well as the solder pads and

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I do think this PCB board is a touch

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touch tou touch thinner than we've seen

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in other HD zero boards but go ahead and

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pause if you'd like to get a longer look

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at those but we're going to continue to

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move on I did also suggest a happy model

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that they make the battery lead uh 5 mm

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longer so that you just have a little

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bit more to work with of course that's

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going to increase the weight as just a

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touch as well but uh several people

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noted you know that well one of the ways

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that I do things let's see let's get one

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lined up here so I

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shove come on go in there that's the

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thing this battery tray is much better

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as far as holding our 1s batteries than

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the previous frame so I shove them in

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all the way down to the plastic

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connector and then I plug them in and

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I'm fine with that but some people want

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their battery to be more centered so

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they want to push them back and as you

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can tell if you push it back much more

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you're going to end up putting pressure

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on the connector and the pins within the

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connector uh so making this 5 mm longer

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which isn't very much uh should take

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care of that issue being able to Center

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your battery uh otherwise I did ask them

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to see about getting these a30

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connectors with a right angle uh I

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believe they're getting the battery

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leads from G and B and they did not uh

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say that that was an option so U we can

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also do that ourselves which I did one

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on the analog version myself just made

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it a right angle adapter so I could

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actually take some length out of the

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battery lead this way because I have it

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mounted right angled so overall I was

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pretty impressed with how these things

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fly both of them um you know when we

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come down to the pit tune we can get

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awful picky uh I should make sure that

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everyone's aware that I have a bias for

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75 mm whoops I prefer them inside and

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outside but I do understand why 65 is so

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much more popular or it I guess it can

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be perceived as much more popular when

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we see Tiny whoop races I think they're

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just almost uniformly at least the

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bigger races always flying 65 mm 31 mm

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props as well as I think when you go

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down to the smaller prop size it

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produces less thrust and therefore it

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makes it easier for most to fly inside

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it does take some time and some effort

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and some you know practice in order to

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get inside flying down so I if you're

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new to fpv or you haven't flown inside

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before and maybe you're wondering it it

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takes time some people pick it up very

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very quickly I've been flying since 2015

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and I've been flying inside probably

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since within a year of that 2015 date

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and so I've slowly progressed over time

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uh you can watch other people have been

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flying nearly as long and are doing

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crazy amount of tricks like Mo fpv I

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don't think he has a review on the Eco

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but he has a review on the mob 6 2024

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heads over at Infinity Loops he does a

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lot of in store freestyle trick sort of

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stuff uh and he hasn't been flying as

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long so that there's a big variance to

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that but I don't want people to come out

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of the gate thinking that you're going

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to be able to do some of the things

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you're going to see on YouTube right

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away just get comfortable and enjoy all

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the flights I know that's a little bit

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of an aside to this uh I just get a lot

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of questions from people about

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trying to make these things better right

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out of the gate and I think that comes

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from a place of Innocence where they

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just haven't spent enough time flying

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they see a video and they want it to fly

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for them just like that and that's

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really down to us I also have a short on

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How to Train yourself from angle mode

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which is self- stabilized into a Acro

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mode and I'll put that down in the video

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description as well as links to the HDs

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or website will this will first launch

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from as well as the Eco we didn't go

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deep dive into the Eco cuz I think you

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kind of shown it right showed you all

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the camera settings showed you inside

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outside we took a look at the the weight

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um the hardware you got a chance to look

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at close up close and personal the

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hardware on both sides if that's of a

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particular draw for you but if there's

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more I need to investigate with the Eco

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please let me know I'll probably put

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this into probably an outdoor build uh

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run this off the the five Vol rail the

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5vt rail off of uh maybe I'll put it in

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one of my favorite rocket a little 2in

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2s those are awful fun it'd be nice to

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have a nice light hd0 version and

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because this board is so thin I think I

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could mount it down lower and maybe keep

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it below the prop line on that

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particular tight quad so if you have any

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questions about the hd0 Eco which I

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think is what it's called hd0 Eco bundle

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probably as well as the mobilia 6 Eco

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2024 Edition please let me know in the

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comments section below I appreciate your

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time and thanks for watching head over

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at iny flute

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[Music]

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in

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