How a Historian Nailed Billionaires for Their Greed at Davos | NowThis

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30 Jan 201904:34

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TLDRAt Davos, amidst discussions on participation, justice, and equality, the issue of tax avoidance by the wealthy is notably absent. The speaker criticizes the focus on philanthropy over fair taxation, highlighting historical examples of high tax rates in the US during the 1950s. They emphasize the need for governments to address tax leakage and ensure a fair distribution of wealth. The conversation also touches on the quality of jobs, workers' rights, and the importance of dignified employment and access to healthcare for addressing global inequality.

Takeaways

  • πŸ˜€ The speaker expresses a sense of bewilderment at the Davos conference, noting the irony of private jets contributing to environmental issues while attendees discuss sustainability.
  • πŸ’Ό The issue of tax avoidance is highlighted as a significant problem that is not being adequately addressed at the conference, despite discussions on participation, justice, and equality.
  • πŸ’° The speaker calls for a focus on tax systems rather than philanthropy, emphasizing the need for the wealthy to pay their fair share.
  • πŸ›οΈ Historical examples are provided to argue that high marginal tax rates can work, referencing the United States in the 1950s under President Eisenhower.
  • πŸ’‘ The discussion points out the inadequacy of the current tax system, which allows for significant wealth to be transferred to tax havens, depriving developing countries of much-needed funds.
  • 🌍 The panel is criticized for being one-sided, with a focus on tax issues while overlooking other important factors such as job quality and workers' rights.
  • πŸ‘©β€πŸ’Ό The quality of jobs is emphasized as crucial, with examples given of workers in the poultry industry who face inhumane working conditions.
  • 🀝 The importance of workers' rights, including the ability to unionize and negotiate for better wages, is underscored as essential for addressing inequality.
  • πŸ₯ Access to healthcare is identified as a critical factor in preventing people from falling into poverty, with many lacking basic health coverage.
  • πŸ‘ The speaker receives applause for their passionate argument, indicating that the audience resonates with the points made about dignity and inequality.

Q & A

  • What is the speaker's first impression of the Davos conference?

    -The speaker finds the Davos conference bewildering, noting a contradiction between the wealth displayed (1,500 private jets) and the discussions on justice, equality, and climate change.

  • What main issue does the speaker feel is being overlooked at the conference?

    -The speaker believes that tax avoidance and the rich not paying their fair share is the key issue being ignored, despite the focus on justice and equality.

  • How does the speaker compare the conference to a firefighters' conference?

    -The speaker feels it's like attending a firefighters' conference where no one is allowed to talk about water, emphasizing the neglect of discussing the most critical issueβ€”taxation.

  • What does the speaker criticize about philanthropy in relation to tax avoidance?

    -The speaker criticizes philanthropy as a distraction, arguing that instead of focusing on charitable giving, the wealthy should be paying more taxes, which would have a greater societal impact.

  • What historical example does the speaker use to support high marginal tax rates?

    -The speaker references the United States in the 1950s under Republican President Eisenhower, when the top marginal tax rate was 91%, suggesting it was a successful period for the economy.

  • How does the speaker respond to Michael Dell's question about high tax rates?

    -The speaker points out that the U.S. in the 1950s, with a top marginal tax rate of 91%, is an example of where high tax rates worked, countering Dell's skepticism.

  • What is the estimated financial loss due to tax avoidance according to the speaker?

    -The speaker claims that $170 billion is lost annually to tax havens, which denies developing countries the resources they need.

  • How does another panelist challenge the speaker's focus on taxes?

    -Another panelist mentions that the U.S. has low unemployment rates and reduced poverty globally, suggesting that the conversation should move beyond just taxes.

  • What does the speaker say about job quality in the context of low unemployment rates?

    -The speaker argues that while there may be jobs, many of them lack dignity, citing U.S. poultry workers who aren't allowed proper breaks and are forced to wear diapers at work.

  • What broader issue does the speaker associate with the lack of dignity in jobs?

    -The speaker connects job dignity to larger issues like the lack of worker rights, such as unionization and fair wage negotiations, particularly in the context of globalization.

Outlines

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πŸ’Ό Critique of Wealth Disparity at Davos

The speaker expresses their bewilderment at the Davos conference, noting the irony of 1,500 private jets flying in to discuss environmental concerns. They criticize the lack of discussion on tax avoidance and the rich not paying their fair share. The speaker calls for a focus on taxes rather than philanthropy, citing historical examples of high marginal tax rates in the United States during the 1950s under President Eisenhower. They argue that the current tax system allows for significant wealth to be funneled into tax havens, depriving developing countries of much-needed funds.

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Keywords

πŸ’‘Davos

Davos refers to the World Economic Forum's annual meeting held in Davos, Switzerland, which is a gathering of global leaders from business, politics, and civil society to discuss pressing economic and social issues. In the video, the speaker expresses bewilderment at the disparity between the high-level discussions on environmental and social responsibility and the actual behaviors of attendees, such as the use of private jets.

πŸ’‘Tax avoidance

Tax avoidance refers to the practice of legally using tax laws to reduce one's tax liability. In the context of the video, the speaker criticizes the lack of discussion on tax avoidance at Davos, suggesting that the wealthy and corporations are not paying their fair share of taxes, which contributes to economic inequality.

πŸ’‘Philanthropy

Philanthropy is the act of donating money or resources to support causes, organizations, or individuals in need. The speaker argues that instead of focusing on philanthropy, which can be seen as a way for the wealthy to cleanse their image, the conversation should shift towards ensuring that taxes are used effectively to support society.

πŸ’‘Tax havens

Tax havens are jurisdictions that offer low or no taxes for individuals and businesses. The speaker points out that a significant amount of money is funneled into tax havens, depriving developing countries of much-needed revenue. This practice is seen as a form of tax avoidance that exacerbates global inequality.

πŸ’‘Top marginal tax rate

The top marginal tax rate is the highest tax rate applied to an individual's taxable income. The speaker mentions that in the 1950s, the United States had a top marginal tax rate of 91%, suggesting that higher tax rates on the wealthy can be effective in reducing inequality.

πŸ’‘Estate tax

Estate tax is a tax on the transfer of a deceased person's wealth. The speaker uses the example of high estate taxes in the 1950s to argue that taxing the wealthy can be a means of redistributing wealth and reducing economic disparities.

πŸ’‘Globalization

Globalization refers to the increasing interconnectedness of the world's markets and cultures. The speaker criticizes the impact of globalization on job quality, suggesting that while it may create jobs, it can also lead to low wages and poor working conditions, as exemplified by the plight of poultry workers.

πŸ’‘Dignity of work

The dignity of work refers to the idea that all jobs should provide a decent standard of living and respect for workers. The speaker emphasizes the importance of not just creating jobs but ensuring that they are dignified, with fair wages and working conditions.

πŸ’‘Health care

Health care is the maintenance or improvement of one's health through the prevention, diagnosis, and treatment of diseases. The speaker highlights the issue of inadequate health care, particularly for those living on the edge of poverty, as a significant factor contributing to economic insecurity.

πŸ’‘Poverty

Poverty refers to the state of being extremely poor. The speaker challenges the notion that low unemployment rates are an indicator of economic well-being, arguing that many people are still living in poverty due to factors such as lack of health care and job insecurity.

πŸ’‘Unionization

Unionization is the process of forming or joining a labor union. The speaker points out that in many countries, workers are not allowed to unionize, which prevents them from collectively bargaining for better wages and working conditions, contributing to a lack of dignity in work.

Highlights

Speaker expresses bewilderment at the disparity between the environmental rhetoric and the use of private jets at Davos.

Sir David Attenborough's presence at Davos is noted, highlighting the environmental discussions.

Criticism of the lack of discussion on tax avoidance and the rich not paying their fair share.

Mention of a single panel on tax avoidance at the media center with limited participation.

Call for a shift from talking about philanthropy to focusing on tax justice.

Historical reference to the United States' high marginal tax rates in the 1950s under President Eisenhower.

Challenge to the notion that high tax rates do not work, using the US in the 1950s as a counterexample.

Discussion on the tax system's failure, allowing billions to be moved to tax havens.

Emphasis on the need to look at the business model and the role of governments in tax collection.

Contrasting view on the US having the lowest unemployment rates ever recorded.

Critique of the focus on unemployment rates rather than the quality of jobs created.

Example of poultry workers in the US having to wear diapers due to lack of break time.

Argument that the discussion should be about creating jobs with dignity, not just jobs for the sake of employment.

Reference to the World Bank's data on the vulnerability of billions to medical bills and poverty.

Call for a broader discussion on inequality that includes access to healthcare and dignity, not just employment figures.

Applause from the audience indicating agreement or support for the points made.

Transcripts

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this is my first time at Davos and and I

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find it quite a bewildered stew be

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honest I mean 1,500 private jets flown

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in here to here Sir David Attenborough

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speak about you know how we recomm to

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planet and I mean I heard people talking

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the language of participation and

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justice and equality and transparency

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but then I mean almost no one raises the

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real issue of tax avoidance right and of

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the rich just not paying their fair

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share I mean it feels like I met a fire

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fighters fighters conference and no

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one's allowed to speak about water right

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there was there was only one panel

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actually we've had two Pierre the second

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one let's go there one panel hidden away

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in the media center that was actually

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about tax avoidance and I was about I

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was one of the 15 participants so

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something needs to change here I mean 10

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10 years ago the World Economic Forum

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asked a question what must industry do

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to prevent a broad social backlash the

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answer is very simple

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just stop talking about philanthropy and

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start talking about Texas Texas Texas we

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need to I mean just two days ago there

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was a billionaire in here what's his

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name Michael Dell and he asked a

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question like name me one country where

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a top marginal tax rate of 70% has

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actually worked mm-hm and you know I'm a

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historian the United States that's where

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it has actually worked in the 1950s

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during Republic and President Eisenhower

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you know the war veteran the top

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marginal tax rate in the US was 91

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percent for people like Michael Dell you

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know top estate tax for people like

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Michael Dell was more than 70% I mean

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this is not rocket science I mean we can

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talk for a very long time about all

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these stupid philanthropy schemes we can

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invite Bono once marpa come on it's we

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got to be talking about Texas yeah

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that's it taxes taxes taxes all the rest

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is in my opinion we have a tax

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system that leaks so much that allows a

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hundred and seventy billion dollars of

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money every year to be taken to tax

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havens and to be denied the developing

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countries that need that money Mo's so

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we have to look at the business model

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and we have to look at the role of

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governments to tax

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and pluck money into people's lives I

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have to say honestly this is a very

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one-sided panel the u.s. basically has

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the lowest unemployment rate ever the

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lowest black unemployment rate ever

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lowest youth unemployment ever we've

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actually reduced poverty around the

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world no one's talking about that at all

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so I like for the panel to talk about

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beyond taxes which every one of you have

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talked about the only thing you've

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talked about in this whole panel on

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inequality what can we really do to

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solve and it helped solve inequality

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over time beyond taxes the gentleman who

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talked about who said we've just talked

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taxes and that jobs are there and this

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law and unemployment rates are low let

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me tell you something we talk about jobs

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but the quality of those jobs and we

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also work with poultry workers in the

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richest country in the world the United

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States poultry workers these are women

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who are cutting the chickens and parking

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them and we buy them in the

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supermarket's dollar is one woman we

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work with there told us that she and her

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co-workers have to wear diapers to work

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because they are not allowed to eat

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breaks this isn't the richest country in

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the world that's not a dignified job

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those are the jobs they are being told

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about that globalization is bringing

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jobs their quality of their jobs matter

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it matters these are the jobs of dignity

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in many countries workers no longer have

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a voice they are not allowed to unionize

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they are not allowed to negotiate for

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web for salaries so we're talking about

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jobs but jobs that bring dignity we are

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talking about health care the World Bank

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has told us that 3.4 billion people who

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earn five point five dollars a day

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all that verge are just medical bills

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away from sinking into poverty they

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don't have health care they are just a

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crop failure away from sinking back into

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poverty they have no crop insurance so

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don't tell me about low levels of

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unemployment you are counting the wrong

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things you're not counting dignity of

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people you're counting exploited people

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I want

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[Applause]

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