California "Magazine Ban" Update, Duncan v. Bonta

Copper Jacket TV
12 Sept 202410:42

Summary

TLDRIn this Copper Jacket TV episode, the focus is on the Duncan v. Bon case, a significant legal challenge to California's ban on magazines holding over 10 rounds. The case, currently before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, was paused awaiting the Supreme Court's decision in another case, Rahimi. The host discusses the implications of a recent unfavorable ruling in a related case, Bian v. Brown, which could influence the Duncan outcome. The video also promotes the game 'Rage Shadow Legends,' offering viewers a special promotion and inviting them to join the host's clan.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ“š The video discusses the Duncan v. Bon case, which challenges California's ban on magazines holding more than 10 rounds.
  • ๐Ÿ›๏ธ The case is currently before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which had previously placed it on hold pending a Supreme Court decision in a related case.
  • ๐Ÿšซ The video shares disappointing news for those following the case, indicating a negative development in the legal fight against the magazine ban.
  • ๐Ÿ‘ฅ The host encourages viewers to share the update with others interested in the magazine ban case and to engage in the discussion through comments and likes.
  • ๐ŸŽฎ The video is sponsored by the game 'Rage Shadow Legends', which is described as a turn-based battle game with an immersive world and special promotions.
  • ๐Ÿ“ˆ The case has been significant for California, leading to 'Freedom Week' where residents could purchase firearms and magazines without the usual restrictions.
  • ๐Ÿค” The video speculates on the impact of a poor decision in a related case (Bian v. Brown) on the Duncan v. Bon case, suggesting that the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals' ruling could be used to uphold the ban.
  • ๐Ÿ“œ The California Department of Justice has sent a letter to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, citing the Bian v. Brown decision as a reason to uphold California's ban.
  • ๐Ÿ’ก The plaintiffs' attorneys have rebutted the state's argument, pointing out that the Fourth Circuit's decision contradicts the Supreme Court's guidance in the Bruen case.
  • โฐ The host anticipates a decision in the Duncan v. Bon case soon and promises to update viewers, emphasizing the importance of the case for Californians' rights.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of the video?

    -The main topic of the video is the Duncan v. Bon case, which challenges California's ban on magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds.

  • Why is the Duncan v. Bon case significant?

    -The case is significant because it challenges a state law restricting firearm accessories, and its outcome could impact gun rights in California.

  • What is the current status of the Duncan v. Bon case?

    -As of the video, the case is before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, and the decision is pending.

  • How does the outcome of the Bian V. Brown case relate to Duncan v. Bon?

    -The Bian V. Brown case, which upheld Maryland's ban on so-called assault weapons, is used by the California Department of Justice to argue that California's magazine ban should also be upheld, potentially influencing the Ninth Circuit's decision in Duncan v. Bon.

  • What was the impact of the Bian V. Brown decision on the Second Amendment?

    -The Bian V. Brown decision suggests that firearms not considered good for personal self-defense may not be protected by the Second Amendment, which could have broader implications for gun rights cases.

  • What is the 'Freedom Week' mentioned in the video?

    -Freedom Week was a period in California when, due to a court decision, people could purchase firearms and accessories without restrictions, including magazines with capacities over 10 rounds.

  • Why did the California Department of Justice write to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals?

    -The California Department of Justice wrote to the court to highlight the Bian V. Brown decision as a reason to uphold California's ban on large-capacity magazines.

  • What is the concern about the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals' potential decision in Duncan v. Bon?

    -The concern is that the court may use the Bian V. Brown decision as a precedent to uphold California's ban, despite the potential issues with the Fourth Circuit's ruling in that case.

  • What is the role of the Supreme Court's Bruen decision in this context?

    -The Bruen decision set a framework for evaluating Second Amendment rights, and the video discusses how lower courts, like the Fourth Circuit, may be misinterpreting or not following this framework.

  • What does the plaintiff's rebuttal to the California Department of Justice's letter argue?

    -The plaintiff's rebuttal argues that the Bian V. Brown decision is flawed and should not be used to uphold California's ban, as it misapplies the Supreme Court's directives from Bruen.

Outlines

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๐Ÿ“š Duncan vbon Case Discussion

The video discusses the Duncan vbon case, a significant legal challenge to California's ban on gun magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds. The case is currently under review by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. The host explains that the case was previously on hold pending the Supreme Court's decision in another case, rahimi, but now the decision has been made, leading to renewed interest in the outcome of Duncan vbon. The host also mentions that the case is important because it could affect the rights of Californians to choose their firearms and accessories.

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๐Ÿ“œ Impact of Bian V. Brown on Duncan vbon

The video delves into the implications of the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals' decision in Bian V. Brown, which upheld Maryland's ban on so-called assault weapons. The host expresses concern that this decision could negatively influence the outcome of the Duncan vbon case. The California Department of Justice has submitted a letter to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, drawing parallels between the two cases and arguing that California's ban should be upheld based on the Bian V. Brown ruling. The host reads from the letter, which argues that the firearms in question are not within the scope of the Second Amendment right to bear arms for self-defense and that even if they were, the ban would still be constitutional due to a strong tradition of regulating dangerous weapons. The host also mentions a rebuttal from the plaintiff's attorneys, which criticizes the Bian V. Brown decision and argues that it contradicts the Supreme Court's guidance in Bruen.

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๐Ÿ” Anticipating a Decision in Duncan vbon

In the final paragraph, the host anticipates that a decision in the Duncan vbon case will be forthcoming soon and expresses a desire for Californians to have the freedom to choose their firearms without restrictions. The host encourages viewers to subscribe for updates and reiterates the importance of the case for the rights of California gun owners. The video concludes with a call to action for viewers to stay informed about the case's developments and to support the plaintiffs' efforts to challenge the magazine ban.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กDuncan vbon

Duncan vbon is a legal case of significant importance that is currently before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. It challenges California's ban on magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition. The case is central to the video's theme as it discusses the implications of this legal challenge on gun rights and the potential for overturning the ban, which was previously deemed unconstitutional by a federal district court judge.

๐Ÿ’กNinth Circuit Court of Appeals

The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is a federal court that handles appeals from lower courts within its jurisdiction, which includes California. In the context of the video, this court is crucial as it is where the Duncan vbon case is pending a decision. The outcome of this case could have far-reaching effects on gun regulations in California and set a legal precedent for other jurisdictions.

๐Ÿ’กMagazine ban

The term 'magazine ban' refers to the prohibition of firearm magazines that can hold more than a certain number of rounds, in this case, more than 10 rounds. This is a key issue in the Duncan vbon case, as the ban is being challenged on constitutional grounds. The video discusses the implications of this ban and the potential for it to be overturned, which would be a significant victory for those opposing such restrictions.

๐Ÿ’กRahimi

Rahimi is a case mentioned in the video that was pending before the Supreme Court and had an impact on the Duncan vbon case. The decision in Rahimi could have influenced how the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals approaches the Duncan vbon case, as it deals with similar constitutional issues related to gun rights. The video suggests that the outcome of Rahimi was anticipated to provide guidance for the Duncan case.

๐Ÿ’กSecond Amendment

The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms. In the video, the Second Amendment is central to the legal arguments being made in the Duncan vbon case, as the plaintiffs argue that the magazine ban infringes upon this constitutional right. The video discusses how lower courts have interpreted the Second Amendment in relation to gun control measures.

๐Ÿ’กPlaintiff

A plaintiff is a person who brings a case against another in a court of law. In the context of the video, the plaintiffs in the Duncan vbon case are challenging the constitutionality of California's magazine ban. The video discusses the arguments presented by the plaintiffs and their efforts to overturn the ban as a violation of the Second Amendment.

๐Ÿ’กCalifornia Department of Justice

The California Department of Justice is the state agency responsible for enforcing state laws and representing the state in legal matters. In the video, the department is mentioned as it has taken an interest in the Duncan vbon case and has communicated with the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals regarding the case. The department's involvement indicates the state's commitment to defending the magazine ban.

๐Ÿ’กBian V Brown

Bian V Brown is another legal case mentioned in the video, which challenged Maryland's ban on so-called 'assault weapons.' The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the ban, arguing that the weapons were not suitable for personal self-defense and thus not protected by the Second Amendment. The video discusses how this decision could influence the Ninth Circuit's ruling on the Duncan vbon case, as it sets a precedent for upholding gun control measures.

๐Ÿ’กPublic safety

Public safety refers to the protection of the health, welfare, and security of the public. In the video, the concept of public safety is used by the California Department of Justice to argue in favor of the magazine ban, suggesting that it is necessary to prevent excessive harm to society. The video critiques this argument, suggesting that it is a misuse of the interest-balancing approach and is not consistent with Supreme Court directives.

๐Ÿ’กRage Shadow Legends

Rage Shadow Legends is a mobile game mentioned in the video as a sponsor. It is a turn-based battle game where players can collect and upgrade characters to battle against AI or other players. The game is used as a promotional element in the video, offering viewers a special promotion and encouraging them to join the host's clan within the game. This serves as a commercial break and a way to support the video content.

Highlights

Introduction to the Duncan v. Bon case, a significant legal challenge to California's ban on magazines holding more than 10 rounds.

Case is currently before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, following a hold pending the Supreme Court's decision in another case, Rahimi.

Discussion on the implications of the recent Supreme Court decision on the Duncan case.

Mention of the impact of the Duncan case on California's 'Freedom Week', a period allowing unrestricted firearm purchases.

Judge Roger T. Benitez's role in declaring California's ban unconstitutional and the subsequent 'Freedom Week'.

Personal anecdote from the host about living in California during 'Freedom Week'.

The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals' decision in Bian v. Brown, which upheld Maryland's assault weapons ban.

Critique of the Fourth Circuit's reasoning in Bian v. Brown, which is seen as contradicting the Second Amendment.

California Department of Justice's letter to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, citing Bian v. Brown to support California's ban.

Analysis of the California Department of Justice's argument that the ban on large-capacity magazines is constitutional.

Rebuttal from the plaintiff's attorneys challenging the Fourth Circuit's decision and its applicability to Duncan v. Bon.

Concerns that the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals may use the Fourth Circuit's decision to uphold California's ban.

Discussion on the potential near-term decision in the Duncan case and its broader implications for gun rights in California.

Call to action for viewers to subscribe for updates on the Duncan case and other related legal developments.

Final thoughts on the importance of the right to choose firearms in California and the ongoing legal fight for this right.

Transcripts

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hey everybody how's it going welcome

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back to Copper Jacket TV so today we're

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going to be talking about Duncan vbon

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which is an extremely important case out

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of the state of California that is

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currently sitting before the ninth

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Circuit Court of Appeals now this is an

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extremely important case because Duncan

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challenges California's ban on magazines

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that can hold more than 10 rounds and

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this is a case that has been bounced

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around the court system for quite some

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time now and if you watch this channel

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you know that Duncan was placed on hold

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at the ninth circuit pending the

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decision in rahimi at the Supreme Court

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and that decision has since come and

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gone so I've been getting a lot of

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questions about it well I've got some

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news for you guys today and

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unfortunately it's not good news so if

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you know anybody that you know wants

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let's go and Dive Right In and talk

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about what's going on with Duncan vbon

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now if you guys have been following this

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case you know that it's been going on

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for a while now people in California

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have been waiting for some relief as a

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matter of fact this is the case that

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resulted in California's Freedom week a

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onewe period where people could pretty

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much get whatever they want in whatever

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capacity they wanted and that was thanks

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to judge Roger T Bonz a federal district

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court judge who actually found that

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California's ban was unconstitutional

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twice the first time is what gave him

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Freedom week the second time is why we

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are up at the n9th Circuit Court of

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Appeals yet again waiting for their

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decision now I just want to say

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something real quick I lived in

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California during Freedom week and I

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don't know about you but it was awesome

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and I really hope we can get back to

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that point for the people of California

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again because I pretty much emptied my

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bank account I mean that almost put me

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in the poor house but that's what it

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should be like every single day people

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in California should have the freedom to

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choose what they want uh nonetheless

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here we are okay so now let's go and

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talk about the bad news regarding Duncan

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so unfortunately the bad news is that

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the fourth Circuit Court of Appeals came

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out with an absolutely horrendous

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miserable terrible decision in bian V

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Brown bian is a case that challenged

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Maryland's so-called assault weapons ban

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and the four Circuit Court of Appeals

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found that they are not even protected

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by the Plain text of the Second

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Amendment saying that they are not

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considered arms because they're not good

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for personal self-defense now you're

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probably asking yourself why would the

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bian decision uh have anything to do

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with the Duncan decision which has to do

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with two different things well they are

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very closely associated if you can ban

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the one and say that it's perfectly

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constitutional to do so then obviously

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you can ban what they consider to be uh

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an accessory for it right and so guess

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who noticed that right away well

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obviously uh Bon noticed that right away

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and the California Department of Justice

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decided to get a hold of the ninth

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Circuit Court of Appeals who is trust me

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looking for an out looking for some way

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to side with the state of Cal California

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californ on this and said here is why

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you should make sure that our ban is

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upheld and it's because of bian V Brown

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and the fourth circuit's absolutely

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horrendous decision not only that the

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fourth circuit even said that if if the

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plane text even did cover it it would

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still be constitutional and then they

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used uh an approach that bruan said you

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weren't allowed to use so it was it was

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a terrible decision on so many accounts

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but I have the letter here this is the

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letter from the California Department of

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Justice to the ninth Circuit Court of

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appeals and I want to read it to you

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real quick and you'll see what I'm

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talking about okay so this is the letter

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that was sent from the California

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Department of Justice Rob Bon's office

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to the ninth Circuit Court of Appeals

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and it was just sent last month uh and

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it is regarding Duncan at all vbon and

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it says Dear Miss dwire who is the uh

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Clerk of the Court uh appellant writes

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to notify this court of the forth

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circuits unbun decision in bian V Brown

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the fourth circuit considered a second

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amendment challenge to Maryland's law

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Banning so-called quote unquote assault

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weapons after rejecting plaintiff's

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facial challenge because plaintiffs

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failed to show that each firearm

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regulated by Maryland's statute is

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within the Ambit of the Second Amendment

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the courts considered the

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constitutionality of Maryland's

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restrictions the court applied Bruin's

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two-step methodology which they didn't

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they just made it look that way and

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concluded at the first step that the

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covered Firearms are not within the

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scope of the constitutional right to

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keep and be arms for self-defense the

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court further held that quote even if

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the text of the Second Amendment were

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read to Encompass the covered Firearms

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the statutory Provisions would

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nonetheless be constitutional end quote

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because maryn's ban is consistent with a

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strong tradition of regulating

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excessively dangerous weapons once it

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becomes clear that they are uh enacting

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an inordinate toll on public safety and

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social well-being that's that's your

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interest balancing approach right there

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uh Public Health and Social well-being

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which is exactly what bruan said you

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were not supposed to do but that's what

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they did while nonetheless preserving

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avenues for armed self-defense so

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basically what they're saying there is

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that by preserving other avenues meaning

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that we're just Banning this we're not

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Banning everything and you still have a

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way to defend yourself uh we should be

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able to uphold this ban which is exactly

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what the Ford circuit did they upheld

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the ban so now again you have bont here

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sending this letter to the ninth circuit

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and I guarantee you the nth circuit is

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going to be looking at this for whatever

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nugget they can use to make sure that

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Duncan is upheld for the State of

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California and not for the plaintiffs

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now we do have a rebuttal here sent by

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the plaintiff's attorneys to the ninth

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Circuit Court of Appeals and the

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rebuttal basically says the Attorney

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General's short summary of bian V Brown

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uh August 6th on Bon lays bare the

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fundamental problems with that decision

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as the Attorney General uh dutifully

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recounts the forth circuit held that

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states May ban any and all arms uh that

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in legislators and judges view have an

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inordinate toll on public safety and

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social well-being uh provided the states

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preserve avenues for armed self-defense

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and that was a a quote so it says that

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is just means and scrutiny by another

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name so it's uh the interest balancing

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approach by another name asking whether

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conduct has had what judges perceive to

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be inordinate effects on social

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wellbeing is no different from asking

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whether a state has what judges perceive

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to be a strong enough interest in

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restricting that conduct interest

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balancing approach is exactly again what

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the Supreme Court said you were not

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allowed to do in these types of cases

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and asking whether a law leaves what

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judges perceive to be sufficient avenues

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for arm self-defense is just another way

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of asking whether a law burdens more

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constitutionally protected conduct than

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judges perceive to be necessary to serve

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the state's interest none of that is

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consistent with the Supreme Court's

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directives Bruin was not an invitation

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for lower courts to do everything just

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the same as before now it goes on from

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there but that was a really good

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response to the absolute Ridiculousness

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that is the decision by the for circuit

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in bian V Brown now obviously the ninth

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circuit who is uh almost always in favor

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of whatever California decides to pass

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is going to still try and find any

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nugget in there that they can end up

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using and so obviously California has

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used the argument we uh we showed the

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oral arguments here on this channel but

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has used the argument that that's just

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an accessory and it's not necessary and

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you still have the means uh of of using

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something else that is of smaller

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capacity and so being able to ban

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anything that's bigger than that should

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be just fine that's kind of where the

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the ninth circuit has gone this backs up

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that ninth circuit uh claim right and so

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really it just adds a little bit of

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credibility to something that the ninth

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circuit already believes and so maybe

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they ignore uh the the lawyers for the

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plaintiffs here and just go along with

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what the fourth circuit said because

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obviously it's an appell Court they hold

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quite a bit of power uh in precedent so

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they can go ahead and just look at that

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and say hey we're going to say the same

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thing and that's the end of it right

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there and keep in mind that Miller which

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is another challenge in California is

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pending the decision in Duncan and so we

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have a lot going on here but the fact

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that the for circuit messed up so bad it

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is absolutely hurting us in dun and

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could cause a lot of problems again all

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the ninth circuit needs is that one out

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now this leads me to believe that we're

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going to be seeing a decision in Duncan

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fairly soon hopefully we do and you know

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of just one week they need it forever

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