West prepares to lift ban on Storm Shadow attacks inside Russia

Times Radio
11 Sept 202408:01

Summary

TLDRIn this segment, discussions revolve around the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine, highlighting the joint trip of U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken and U.K. Foreign Secretary David Lamy to Kyiv. The talks focus on potential U.S. approval of Ukraine's use of long-range missiles, including British-made Storm Shadow missiles, against Russia. The shift in stance is influenced by Iran supplying missiles to Russia. Additionally, the U.K.'s domestic political debates on winter fuel payments and the upcoming leadership contests are explored, alongside reflections on the recent U.S. presidential debate.

Takeaways

  • 🌍 US Secretary of State Antony Blinken and UK Foreign Secretary David Lammy are in Kyiv for talks, signaling a possible shift in policies regarding Ukraine.
  • 🚀 The US and UK are discussing Ukraine’s use of long-range missiles, such as British-made Storm Shadow missiles, against targets in Russia.
  • ⚠️ There is concern about escalating the war by allowing Ukraine to attack Russian targets, though the UK and France are more open to the idea.
  • 🇮🇷 Iran has started supplying Russia with missiles, intensifying the conflict in Ukraine.
  • 🇺🇸 During the US presidential debate, Donald Trump claimed that if he were president, Putin would not have invaded Ukraine, while Kamala Harris suggested Putin would have taken Kyiv under Trump's watch.
  • 🗣️ The US is still cautious about approving Ukraine's request for long-range missile use, though discussions between world leaders may indicate a policy change.
  • 📅 Upcoming key meetings, including with US President Joe Biden and at the UN General Assembly, could influence international decisions regarding the war.
  • 🇬🇧 UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is set to meet President Biden, with the Ukraine war and Middle East issues on the agenda.
  • 🏛️ A debate in the UK’s House of Lords is addressing winter fuel payment cuts, though it's unlikely to overturn government policy.
  • 🤔 In UK domestic politics, a labor MP, John Trickett, voted against the government on benefit cuts, potentially risking suspension from his party.

Q & A

  • Why are Antony Blinkin and David Lamy visiting Kiev?

    -Antony Blinkin, the U.S. Secretary of State, and David Lamy, the British Foreign Secretary, are visiting Kiev for talks over the use of weapons, including British-made Storm Shadow missiles, which could be a pivotal moment in the war between Russia and Ukraine.

  • What is the current British policy on Ukraine using long-range missiles to attack targets within Russia?

    -Britain and France have been relatively sympathetic to the idea that Ukraine should be able to use long-range missiles to attack targets within Russia, such as missile launch sites, particularly since Russia has been escalating its attacks on Ukrainian territory.

  • What hints suggest that the U.S. might be changing its stance on Ukraine using long-range missiles?

    -Hints of a potential policy shift come from Antony Blinkin's visit to London, where he indicated that he would consider Ukraine's requests and listen to their arguments during his visit to Kiev.

  • What is the significance of the U.S. and Britain's joint trip to Kiev regarding the war in Ukraine?

    -The joint trip signifies a possible shift in policy and increased support for Ukraine, potentially allowing them to use long-range missiles against targets in Russia, which could escalate the conflict.

  • What domestic political issues are being discussed in the UK alongside the international matters?

    -Domestic issues include a debate over winter fuel payments, with a fatal motion in the House of Lords challenging the government's decision to cut these payments, reflecting concerns about the impact on the elderly.

  • What was the outcome of the vote in the House of Commons regarding winter fuel payments?

    -The House of Commons voted in favor of the government's decision to cut winter fuel payments, with 53 Labour MPs abstaining and only 12 doing so without permission, and one Labour MP voting against the government.

  • What is the potential consequence for the Labour MP who voted against the government on the winter fuel payment cut?

    -It is uncertain what the consequence will be for the Labour MP who voted against the government, as it depends on whether the party leadership decides to suspend the whip, as has happened in previous instances of rebellion.

  • What is the current status of the Tory leadership race after Mel Stride's exit?

    -After Mel Stride's exit, the Tory leadership race is down to the final four candidates. It is suggested that his exit might boost Kemi Badenoch's campaign, as she picked up six votes in the last round, indicating momentum.

  • How might Mel Stride's votes be distributed among the remaining Tory leadership candidates?

    -It is speculated that votes from Mel Stride's supporters might go to either James Cleverly or Tom Tugendhat in the next round, as both candidates are seen as more centrist options, and they have been quick to praise Stride's contribution to the race.

  • What international issues are expected to be discussed when the UK Prime Minister meets with President Joe Biden?

    -The UK Prime Minister's meeting with President Joe Biden is expected to cover a range of international issues, including the situation in the Middle East and potential concerns about arms sales to Israel.

Outlines

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🌍 Shift in US-UK Stance on Ukrainian Missiles

The script discusses a potential policy shift regarding Ukraine's use of long-range missiles against Russia. The visit of US Secretary of State Antony Blinkin and UK Foreign Secretary David Lamy to Kiev suggests a more sympathetic ear to Ukraine's request to use these missiles, especially in light of Iran supplying missiles to Russia. The US has been cautious, not wanting to escalate the conflict, but the joint trip might indicate a change. The script also mentions the upcoming UN General Assembly and other international discussions that could influence this decision.

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🏛 UK Domestic Politics: Winter Fuel Payments and Tory Leadership Race

This paragraph covers UK domestic politics, focusing on a debate in the House of Lords over proposed cuts to winter fuel payments. A motion by Ros Altman, a crossbench peer and pensions expert, challenges the government's decision, though it's unlikely to pass. The discussion also touches on the Tory leadership race, with Mel Stride's elimination and the remaining candidates' strategies to gain votes. The summary provides insights into the dynamics within the Conservative Party and the potential implications for UK politics.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Anthony Blinken

Anthony Blinken is the current U.S. Secretary of State. In the script, his visit to Kyiv alongside British officials is highlighted as a key event in the ongoing discussions about the U.S. and UK's military support for Ukraine. His presence signals possible changes in U.S. policy regarding Ukraine's use of long-range missiles.

💡David Lammy

David Lammy is the UK Foreign Secretary. He traveled with Anthony Blinken to Kyiv to discuss the potential use of British-made Storm Shadow missiles and other military aid. Lammy's involvement underscores the UK's growing role in supporting Ukraine during the conflict with Russia.

💡Ukraine War

The conflict between Russia and Ukraine, which began in 2022, is the main theme of the video. The discussions revolve around whether Ukraine should be allowed to use long-range missiles to attack Russian targets, which could escalate the war further. The potential U.S. policy shift is a crucial aspect of this conflict.

💡Storm Shadow Missiles

Storm Shadow missiles are long-range air-launched cruise missiles made by the UK. The script mentions ongoing talks about allowing Ukraine to use these missiles against Russia. Their potential deployment could mark a significant shift in the military dynamics of the war.

💡Iran

Iran's involvement in the Russia-Ukraine war is noted in the script, specifically through its supply of missiles to Russia. This support has heightened tensions and contributed to discussions about whether Ukraine should be allowed to target Russian military sites within Russian territory.

💡Donald Trump

Donald Trump, the former U.S. president, is mentioned in relation to his claim during a debate that, had he been president, Russia would not have invaded Ukraine. This remark contrasts with current U.S. policies under Joe Biden and reflects ongoing political debates in the U.S. about foreign policy.

💡Joe Biden

Joe Biden, the current U.S. president, is central to discussions in the video about U.S. policy toward Ukraine. The script touches on how his administration is handling the war and contrasts it with the hypothetical policies that might have been in place if Donald Trump were president.

💡UN General Assembly

The United Nations General Assembly is mentioned as a future meeting where international leaders, including those from the U.S. and Ukraine, will likely discuss the war and other global issues. These meetings serve as important platforms for diplomacy and negotiations.

💡House of Lords

The House of Lords is the upper house of the UK Parliament, and its involvement in domestic policies is highlighted in the script. A crossbench peer's motion related to winter fuel payments is discussed, showcasing how the House of Lords can influence government decisions even if the motion is unlikely to pass.

💡Winter Fuel Payments

Winter fuel payments are a type of government assistance in the UK to help older citizens cover heating costs during the winter. The script mentions a debate in the House of Lords over cuts to these payments, showing how domestic policies are being scrutinized alongside foreign issues.

Highlights

US Secretary of State Antony Blinkin and UK Foreign Secretary David Lamy are visiting Kiev to discuss the use of weapons, including British-made Storm Shadow missiles.

There are concerns that allowing Ukraine to use long-range missiles could escalate the war with Russia.

Britain and France are sympathetic to Ukraine's argument for attacking missile launch sites within Russia.

The US has not yet agreed to let Ukraine use these missiles to attack targets inside Russia.

Iran has been sending missiles to Russia, which are being used against Ukraine.

The joint trip by Blinkin and Lamy might indicate a shift in US policy regarding Ukraine's use of long-range missiles.

The UK Prime Minister is set to meet with US President Joe Biden to discuss international issues, including the situation in the Middle East.

There are reservations from the US about the UK's stance on certain arms sales to Israel.

A 'fatal Motion' is being debated in the House of Lords regarding the UK government's decision on winter fuel payments.

Crossbench peer and pensions expert Ros Altman tabled a motion against the cut in winter fuel payments.

53 Labour MPs abstained from the vote on the winter fuel payment cut, with one voting against the government.

John Trickett, who voted against the government, stated he did so in good conscience to defend his constituents.

The final four candidates in the Tory leadership race are now seen as the favorites after Mel Stride's exit.

Mel Stride's exit from the Tory leadership race might boost Kemi Badenoch's campaign, as she gained votes in the last round.

James Cleverly and Tom Tugendhat are likely to benefit from votes转移自Mel Stride's supporters.

The candidates are positioning themselves as either further right or more centrist options in the leadership race.

Transcripts

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given this joint trip by Anthony blinkin

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and David Lamy to Kiev today that this

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might be shifting and they might be

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listening a bit more particularly given

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that uh Iran has now been sending

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missiles for for Russia to use on on

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their side now in the US presidential

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debate overnight Donald Trump said that

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if he was President Putin would never

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have invaded Ukraine that the war would

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never have happened on his watch KLA

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Harris said that if he would been

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president President Putin would

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currently be sitting in keev well we're

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talking about at the US's stance

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currently of course the decision of Joe

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Biden not Donald Trump and their stance

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because Britain believes that the US

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could allow Ukraine to use long range

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Cruis missiles against Targets in Russia

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within weeks the US Secretary of State

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and David Lamy are foreign secretary are

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traveling to Ukraine today for talks

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over the use of weapons including

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British made storm Shadow missiles this

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really could be a a pivotal moment in

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the war between Russia and Ukraine here

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to go through the politics of the day is

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the political correspondent Terry

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Stasney Terry good morning good morning

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RI there had obviously been lots of

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nervousness over us granting Ukraine

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permission to use these long-range

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missiles inside Russia because fears of

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an an escalation of the war what is the

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current British

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policy well uh so far what uh br Britain

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and France have been relatively

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sympathetic to uh the idea that Ukraine

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should be able to use these Ukraine has

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argued that they ought to be able to

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attack targets within Russia things like

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M missile launch sites for instance

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particularly since uh Russians have been

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revving up their attacks on on Ukrainian

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territory um and cities at the moment

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but basically um the US has said you

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know we we're not agreeing with that yet

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we don't want you to to let Ukraine use

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use these missiles to attack targets

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within Russia um but it does seem to be

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that you know given this joint trip by

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Anthony blinkin and David Lamy to Kev

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today that this might be shifting and

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they might be listening a bit more

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particularly given that uh Iran has now

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been sending missiles for for Russia to

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use on on their side yeah where are we

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getting these hints from that the US

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might be changing

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Tac well you know I think we saw you

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know with Anthony blinkin visiting

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London yesterday um he was asked about

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this uh and they were saying that you

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know he would look at it um and that uh

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he would listen certainly to to Ukraine

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on their on their visit there today so

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you know presumably you know behind the

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scenes these are the kinds of

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discussions that are going on and we

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know that there are big meetings coming

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up obviously Kama going to to visit uh

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Joe Biden uh we know that there'll be

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the UN General Assembly coming up and

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these tend kind of discussions tend to

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be where International leaders get

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together um and and try to persuade one

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another yeah so zalinski David Lamy and

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Anthony blink and the US um Secretary of

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State they'll be talking about it today

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what else is on the agenda then when our

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prime minister meets President Joe Biden

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on

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Friday well obviously you know there a

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lot of big International uh issues to to

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be discussing you know presumably also

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they will want to talk about the the

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situation in the Middle East and we know

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that there was some reservations on the

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United States Parts uh about Britain not

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wanting to uh allow certain armed sales

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to Israel so that's probably um

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something else that is is going to be

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coming up I'm sure Ki starm would have

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had a close eye on the debate as well

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last night whether he stayed up to watch

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it live I'm not sure he might watch the

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edited highlights this morning let's

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talk about um the political issues that

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are more domestic actually and today

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there's going to be what's called which

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sounds very dramatic a fatal Motion in

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the house of Lords explain what that is

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it's all over the debate and the the

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government Victory yesterday on uh

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winter fuel

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payments yes that's right this is

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something that was put forward by um a

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crossbench peer who's also a former

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pensions Minister and a pensions expert

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Ros ultman she tabled a motion that said

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um the House of Commons basically

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shouldn't go ahead with this winter fuel

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payment cut and if she feels that it's a

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bad policy the House of Lords I mean

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they could only make the commons think

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about about it again and you know this

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is something that will be debated and no

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doubt there'll be strong views expressed

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but it's probably not something um that

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will pass but it might be a way to gauge

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the feeling in the House of Lords as

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well as regards this The Cutting of the

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winter fuel payment given um the

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discussions in the Commons yesterday

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yeah presumably the Lord sort of the day

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after a Bill had been passed wouldn't

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you know wouldn't kaiit at that point

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well it's unlikely and yes again this is

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um a crossbench pier and yes it is

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somebody with a lot of expertise in in

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the area of of Pensions and of of older

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people and she may have you know quite a

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bit of of sympathy on on both sides of

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the House of Lords but uh as it's not

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something you know that's been put

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forward by the government this is

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something again that's you know it's

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unlikely uh it's unlikely to to pass but

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it may be an indication of of the

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feelings on on the red benches um 53

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labor MPS

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abstained it's difficult to get an

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actual number but it looks about only 12

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did so without permission one labor MP

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voted against the government now

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previously when this has happened over

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Char benefit all those seven MPS who

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rebelled and voted against lost the whip

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do we know what might happen in this

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case well yes this is um John tricket

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who had been you know quite publicly

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critical of this and he said after he uh

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voted against the government that he

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would um sleep well saying he'd done

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this in good conscience and sleep well

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knowing that he had voted to to defend

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his constituents but what we don't know

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is you know whether he slept well

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knowing that he would lose the Whip or

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not because yes as you say you know when

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this happened uh in the debates on The

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King's Speech um the labor whips were

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quite quick to suspend the whip from

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those other MPS um but we haven't heard

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yet about whether that is is likely to

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happen to John tricket as well okay so

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we're waiting to see might be a

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development on that today also finally

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Terry mstrides

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momentum saw him reach the final five

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and no further in the Tory leadership

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race He was largely expected to go out

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wasn't he um so we now have a final four

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who would you say are the favorites I'm

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reading analysis that mri's exit there

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might be a bit of a boost for Kem

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Bok yeah possibly I mean I think the

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badeo campaign are suggesting that

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because she picked up uh six votes in

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this last round that she's got momentum

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now going forward but I think interest

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if you look at the way the people the 16

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conservative MPS who voted for Mel

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stride in this last round it's possibly

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more likely that those votes would go to

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either James cleverly or Tom tugan hat

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in the next round you sort of seeing it

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break down into two of the further right

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candidates if you like and two of the

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more Centrist candidates going forward

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so and you'll notice also that that

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James cleverly and Tom tugan have been

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very quick to to praise Mel stride and

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thank him for his contribution which is

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always a sign that you know they're

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saying you know can and can we have some

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of your votes now please so yeah we'll

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be interesting to see where those votes

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go uh after the Party Conference you are

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so right we'll be watching closely Terry

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thank you very much Terry sasne the

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political correspondent rounding up uh

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what has been a very busy 24 hours so uh

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in British politics but of course uh

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most of the drama most of the actions in

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the theater of the debate the ABC

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presidential debate that took place uh

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probably while you were asleep in

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Pennsylvania

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