It’s time to kill the Playstation 5
Summary
TLDRDieses Video vergleicht einen Gaming-PC mit einer PlayStation 5, die gleich viel kosten. Der PC übertrifft die PS5 in vielen Spielen, was auf den ersten Blick unglaubwürdig erscheint, da Konsolen normalerweise einen besseren Preis-Leistungs-Verhältnis bieten. Doch durch clevere Hardwareauswahl und Nutzung von gebrauchten Marktplätzen ist es möglich, eine ähnliche oder sogar bessere Leistung zu erzielen. Der PC nutzt eine AMD Ryzen 5 5600X, Intel Arc A770 GPU und wird von Seasonic gesponsert. Es zeigt, dass mit etwas Kreativität und Recherche ein PC gebaut werden kann, der die PS5 in Spielen wie 'DOOM Eternal' und 'God of War' übertrifft, aber auch Herausforderungen bei der Bildqualität und Stabilität aufweist.
Takeaways
- 💰 Eine Gaming-PC im Preissegment eines PlayStation 5 (PS5) kann in vielen Spielen, einschließlich einigen exklusiven Sony-Titel, mit oder sogar übertrumpfen.
- 🎮 Sony und Microsoft sind bereit, ihre Hardware zum Verlust zu verkaufen, um Kunden in ihr Ecosystem von Zubehör, Abonnementdiensten und Software zu binden, die alle zu einem Gewinn verkauft werden.
- 💡 Die PC-Bereichsleistung kann durch kluge Entscheidungen und Kompromisse, wie die Auswahl eines AMD Ryzen 5 5600X anstelle eines Ryzen 7 3700X, verbessert werden, um eine bessere Gaming-Erlebnis zu bieten.
- 🛠 Die PS5 verfügt über schnellere Speicher, während eine 1TB Samsung 970 EVO+ SSD in der PC-Build nur etwa 60% der Geschwindigkeit der PS5-Speicherung erreicht.
- 💻 Die PC-Build nutzt eine B450- oder B550-Mainboard-Serie, die wichtige Funktionen beibehält und in der Regel eine höhere Bauqualität bietet, obwohl sie möglicherweise etwas teurer ist.
- 🔌 Die Verwendung eines Seasonic X650 Gold Netzteils, das fast 15 Jahre alt ist, zeigt die Langlebigkeit und Zuverlässigkeit von Seasonic-Produkten, die auch über einen übertragbaren Kriegshaber bieten.
- 🎨 Die Intel Arc A770 GPU wurde für die PC-Build ausgewählt, obwohl sie noch verbesserungsbedürftig ist, bietet sie 16 GB GDDR6 Speicher und hat sich in Bezug auf Kompatibilität verbessert.
- 🕹️ Die PS5 kommt inklusive eines der besten Controllers im Marktsegment, während eine PC-Build normalerweise keinen Controller im Preis inbegriffen hat.
- 💡 Die PC-Build kann eine ähnliche oder sogar bessere Erfahrung bieten als eine Konsole mit demselben Budget, aber es erfordert Zeit und Einarbeitung, um alle Teile zu suchen und zusammenzusetzen.
- 💸 Die Gesamtausgaben für die PC-Build beliefen sich auf $475, was $25 unter dem Budget von $500 ist, aber es wurden keine Zusatzkosten für Peripherie wie ein Steuerelement oder Garantien für die Teile berücksichtigt.
Q & A
Wie ist es möglich, dass der PC im Video das gleiche Preisniveau wie eine PlayStation 5 hat?
-Es ist möglich, weil manche Spielekonsolen wie die PlayStation 5 in einigen Fällen sogar gewinnen können, wenn es um die Leistung und den Preis geht. Dies liegt an der Tatsache, dass Sony und Microsoft bereit sind, ihre Hardware zum Verlust zu verkaufen, um Kunden in ihr Ökosystem einzuschließen, was zu höheren Gewinnen aus Zubehör, Abonnementdiensten und Software führt.
Warum haben Spielekonsolen traditionell einen besseren Preis-Leistungs-Verhältnis als PCs?
-Spielegekonsolen haben einen besseren Preis-Leistungs-Verhältnis, weil Hersteller wie Sony und Microsoft bereit sind, die Hardware zum Verlust zu verkaufen, um Kunden an ihre Plattform zu binden, und dann durch Zubehör, Abonnementdienste und Software Gewinne zu erwirtschaften.
Was ist der Hauptunterschied zwischen dem AMD Ryzen 5 5600X und dem Prozessor der PlayStation 5?
-Der AMD Ryzen 5 5600X hat zwei weniger Kerne als die PlayStation 5, aber sein Zen 3-Architektur macht ihn zum Budget-König im Bereich Gaming. Er verbraucht auch nur 65 Watt, was bedeutet, dass die mitgelieferte Kühlerhaube ausreichend ist, um ihn cool zu halten.
Warum wurde die Intel Arc A770 als GPU im PC-Build ausgewählt?
-Die Intel Arc A770 wurde ausgewählt, weil sie 16 GB GDDR6-Speicher besitzt, der nicht mit dem CPU geteilt werden muss. Obwohl die Kompatibilität zuvor ein Problem war, hat Intel ihre Treiber in den letzten Jahren verbessert, und sie bietet eine interessante Option für den Preis, den das Videobudget vorschreibt.
Was sind die Vor- und Nachteile des verwendeten Seasonic X650 Gold Netzteils?
-Das Seasonic X650 Gold Netzteil ist ein Vorteil, weil es von Seasonic eine lange Garantie und eine übertragbare Garantie bietet. Es ist fast 15 Jahre alt, aber es funktioniert immer noch gut und steht für Zuverlässigkeit und Qualität. Ein Nachteil ist, dass es gebraucht sein könnte, aber Seasonic steht hinter ihren Produkten.
Warum wurde der ASRock B450M Pro4 als Mutterboard ausgewählt?
-Der ASRock B450M Pro4 wurde ausgewählt, weil er im B-Serie-Chassis eine gute Preis-Leistungs-Ratio bietet und wichtige Funktionen beibehält, wie z. B. vier DDR4 DIMM-Steckplätze für 16 GB RAM und respektable I/O, einschließlich USB Typ-C.
Welche Rolle spielt die Kompatibilität von ATX in der Auswahl eines Gehäuses?
-Die ATX-Kompatibilität ist entscheidend, um sicherzustellen, dass alle Komponenten des PC passt und funktioniert. Es ist wichtig, dass das Gehäuse die erforderliche Größe und die notwendigen Anschlüsse für die Komponenten aufweist, die im Build verwendet werden.
Warum ist die Auswahl eines SSD von Bedeutung für die Leistung des PC-Builds?
-Die Auswahl eines SSD ist wichtig, weil sie die Geschwindigkeit der Datenübertragung beeinflusst, was die Ladezeiten der Spiele und die allgemeine Reaktionsgeschwindigkeit des Systems verbessern kann. Im Video wurde ein Samsung 970 EVO+ verwendet, was schneller als SATA SSDs ist, aber langsamer als das Speichermedium der PlayStation 5.
Was sind die Herausforderungen, die mit dem Aufbau eines PCs im Vergleich zu der Verwendung einer Konsole verbunden sind?
-Einige Herausfordern beim PC-Build im Vergleich zu einer Konsole sind die Komplexität bei der Auswahl der Komponenten, die Notwendigkeit, die Hardware auf Kompatibilität zu überprüfen, die Konfiguration der Treiber und Einstellungen für optimale Leistung und die Möglichkeit, defekten Hardware zu erhalten.
Warum ist es wichtig, die Teile vor dem Kauf auf Funktionstüchtigkeit zu überprüfen, wenn man auf dem Marktplatz kauft?
-Es ist wichtig, die Teile vor dem Kauf auf Funktionstüchtigkeit zu überprüfen, weil Marktplätze oft keine Käuferschutzprogramme anbieten. Wenn Teile defekt sind oder nicht funktionieren, kann es schwierig sein, ein Ersatz oder eine Rückerstattung zu erhalten, insbesondere wenn der Verkäufer nicht kooperativ ist.
Outlines
🎮 PC vs. PlayStation 5: Preis-Leistungs-Konfrontation
Dieser Absatz stellt einen PC mit dem Preis eines PlayStation 5 (PS5) vor, der in vielen getesteten Spielen, einschließlich einigen exklusiven Sony-Titel, mit oder sogar übertrifft die Leistung der PS5. Der Sprecher fragt, wie dies möglich sei, da Spielekonsolen traditionell bei Preis-Leistungs-Verhältnissen über Computer liegen. Er erklärt, dass Sony und Microsoft bereit sind, ihre Hardware zum Verlust zu verkaufen, um Kunden in ihr Ökosystem von Zubehör, Abonnementdiensten und Software zu locken, die alle zu Gewinnen verkauft werden. Trotz der anfänglichen Einsparungen können diese Faktoren die Sparsamkeit über die Zeit ausgleichen. Der Sprecher betont jedoch, dass der Preis von $500 für eine anständige GPU allein schwerlich eine vollständige Gaming-Box beinhaltet, und diskutiert, wie die Technologie und der Wettbewerb es nun ermöglichen, einen PC mit vergleichbarem Preis und Leistung wie die PS5 zu erstellen.
🛠️ Aufbau eines preisgünstigen Gaming-PCs
Der Sprecher führt durch die Entscheidungsfindung beim Aufbau eines Gaming-PCs, der die Spezifikationen der PS5 erreichen soll, aber besser sein muss. Er erklärt, dass sie bewusst eine Kompromissvariante gewählt haben, indem sie einen AMD Ryzen 5 5600X statt eines Ryzen 7 3700X verwenden, um eine bessere Gaming-Leistung zu erzielen, während sie Energie sparen und weniger Leistung von der Stromversorgung benötigen. Der Absatz betont die Bedeutung, kluge Entscheidungen im Namen der realen Leistung zu treffen, auch wenn dies Kompromisse mit sich bringt. Der Sprecher diskutiert auch die Bedeutung von Preisen, die zu Hause nachgestellt werden können, und gibt Tipps für den Kauf von Hardware auf dem zweiten Markt, um das $500-Budget zu erreichen.
🧩 Komponenten-Auswahl und ihre Auswirkungen
Der Sprecher diskutiert die Auswahl des Falles, der Stromversorgung und der Grafikkarte für den PC. Er erwähnt, dass sie einen großen, aber preisgünstigen Fall verwendet haben, um Kosten zu sparen, und betont die Bedeutung der Kompatibilität und der Größe des Falls für die Komponenten. Die Wahl der Seasonic X650 Gold Stromversorgung wird hervorhegt, insbesondere wegen ihrer langen Garantie und der Tatsache, dass sie auch bei gebrauchten Einheiten weiterhin zuverlässig funktioniert. Der Sprecher erklärt, dass sie die Intel Arc A770 Grafikkarte gewählt haben, um die Leistung zu testen und die Verbesserungen in der Treiberunterstützung zu überprüfen. Der Absatz endet mit einer Diskussion über die Herausforderungen bei der Einrichtung der PC-Konfiguration, einschließlich der Aktivierung von Above 4G-Decoding und resizable bar Support, um die beste Leistung zu erzielen.
🖥️ Leistungsvergleich und Kompromisse
Der Sprecher vergleicht die Leistung des PC-Setups mit der PS5, indem er die Framerate, die Bildqualität und die Ladezeiten in verschiedenen Spielen diskutiert. Er erwähnt, dass der PC in einigen Fällen eine bessere Bildqualität und höhere Frameraten liefert, aber auch Herausforderen wie die Unterstützung von HDR und die Einrichtung der optimalen Einstellungen auf dem PC hat. Der Absatz betont, dass der PC in der Lage ist, eine ähnliche oder sogar bessere Spielerfahrung für das gleiche Budget wie die PS5 zu bieten, aber es gibt Kompromisse, wie die Notwendigkeit, die Hardware sorgfältig auszuwählen und zusammenzusetzen, sowie die potenziellen Risiken von gebrauchter Hardware.
🔌 Stromversorgung und zukünftige Entwicklungen
Der Sprecher lobt Seasonic für die Leistung ihrer Stromversorgung und ihre langfristige Garantiepolitik, insbesondere für gebrauchte Einheiten. Er betont, wie wichtig es ist, die Qualität und Zuverlässigkeit der Komponenten zu überprüfen, wenn sie auf dem zweiten Markt erworben werden, und gibt Tipps für den sicheren Kauf von Hardware. Der Absatz schließt mit einer Diskussion über die Zukunft des PC-Gaming und die Herausforderungen, die es gibt, einen neuen PC mit der gleichen oder besseren Leistung wie die aktuellen Konsolen zu bauen, aber auch die Möglichkeiten, dies mit ein wenig Kreativität und Forschung zu erreichen.
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Keywords
💡PlayStation 5
💡Gaming PCs
💡Ryzen 7 3700X
💡Zen 3 Architecture
💡PCI Express
💡SSD
💡Intel Arc A770
💡HDR
💡Geschwindigkeit
💡Budget
Highlights
PC与PlayStation 5价格相同,但在多数测试游戏中表现更佳,包括一些索尼第一方游戏。
游戏机通常在性价比上超越电脑,但有时情况并非如此。
索尼和微软愿意亏本销售硬件,以锁定用户进入他们的生态系统。
随着时间的推移,这种策略会逐渐侵蚀用户最初的节省。
500美元过去仅能买到一个像样的GPU,更不用说完整的游戏主机了。
技术不断进步,竞争和二手市场的升温使得现在可以用与PlayStation 5相当的预算构建游戏PC。
选择了AMD Ryzen 5 5600X处理器,虽然核心数量比PlayStation 5少,但Zen 3架构使其成为当前游戏的性价比之王。
选择的处理器功耗只有65瓦,意味着附带的散热器足以保持冷却,节省了成本。
为了保持预算紧张,选择了B系列芯片组的主板,如B550和B450。
1TB三星970 EVO+ SSD的速度大约是PlayStation 5存储速度的3/5,但对于大多数PC游戏来说影响不大。
通过使用可能有些磨损的机箱,但可以在本地市场上免费或仅几美元找到,节省了成本。
选择了Seasonic的X650 Gold电源供应器,这是15年前的型号,但仍然强劲。
选择了Intel Arc A770显卡,它有16GB的GDDR6内存,并且不与CPU共享。
在《DOOM Eternal》游戏中,PC在适当配置后能够达到120 FPS的流畅体验。
PC在HDR支持方面存在一些问题,但一旦启用了Resizable Bar,性能表现非常好。
在《战神》游戏中,PC版的HDR效果比PS5更好,尽管使用的是比PS5更老的电视。
在《最后生还者》游戏中,PC需要将渲染比例调整至70%才能在30 FPS下稳定运行。
尽管PC在某些游戏的HDR支持和性能上存在挑战,但整体而言,使用相同预算可以获得与PlayStation 5相当甚至更好的体验。
构建这台PC的总成本为475美元,比预算节省了25美元,但没有包括控制器和保修。
Seasonic的电源供应器证明了其产品的耐用性和长期的保修服务。
Transcripts
(SPEAKER_00) This PC is the same price as a PlayStation 5
(SPEAKER_00) and competes, or in some cases, even wins
(SPEAKER_00) in just about every game we tested,
(SPEAKER_00) including some Sony first-party titles.
(SPEAKER_00) But how is that even possible?
(SPEAKER_00) I mean, gaming consoles dominate computers
(SPEAKER_00) in price to performance, don't they?
(SPEAKER_00) Well, sometimes.
(SPEAKER_00) It's no secret that Sony and Microsoft
(SPEAKER_00) are willing to sell their hardware at a loss
(SPEAKER_00) in order to lock you into their ecosystem
(SPEAKER_00) of accessories, subscription services, and software,
(SPEAKER_00) all of which are sold for a profit.
(SPEAKER_00) Over time, then, this chips away at your initial savings,
(SPEAKER_00) but even with that in mind,
(SPEAKER_00) I totally get why people go for it.
(SPEAKER_00) When this thing launched,
(SPEAKER_00) $500 barely got you a decent GPU,
(SPEAKER_00) let alone a complete gaming box.
(SPEAKER_00) Of course, there's
(SPEAKER_00) no denying the power of the Sony exclusive machine. No PC could ever hope to compete with that model,
(SPEAKER_00) at least not for the first couple of years, but technology marches ever onward and with
(SPEAKER_00) competition and the used market heating up again, it is finally possible to match
(SPEAKER_00) the price and performance and budget of a PlayStation 5 with
(SPEAKER_00) a gaming PC. And ours is going to be powered by Seasonic, who sponsored this video, even though
(SPEAKER_00) this is a second-hand power supply. That'll make sense later. First, we have to answer some
(SPEAKER_00) big questions. If our goal is to match the PlayStation 5's spec, we need a Ryzen 7 3700X
(SPEAKER_00) with eight Zen 2 cores and a 6600 XT RDNA 2 GPU. But guys, we don't want to
(SPEAKER_00) match it. Look at the title! We want to beat it!
(SPEAKER_00) That means making smart choices in the name of real-world performance, even if they might come with some compromises, like this one.
(SPEAKER_00) We've gone with the AMD Ryzen 5 5600X, and it's got two fewer cores than the PlayStation 5.
(SPEAKER_00) However, it's Zen 3 architecture makes it the budget king when it comes to gaming right now.
(SPEAKER_00) And it's only 65 watts, meaning that the stock heatsink that's included with it
(SPEAKER_00) ...
(SPEAKER_00) should be fine to keep it cool.
(SPEAKER_00) That right there, that's savings.
(SPEAKER_00) And it means we don't need an OP power supply
(SPEAKER_00) in order to drive this thing.
(SPEAKER_00) Boom!
(SPEAKER_00) More savings.
(SPEAKER_00) Now, it's worth noting that for a few bucks more,
(SPEAKER_00) you could jump up to a 57 or a 5800X,
(SPEAKER_00) but we are on a pretty tight budget.
(SPEAKER_00) Making our $500 target even more challenging
(SPEAKER_00) is the fact that we wanted this to be a build
(SPEAKER_00) that you could replicate at home.
(SPEAKER_00) This isn't scrapyard wars, this is a guide.
(SPEAKER_00) So we targeted prices that you will probably be able
(SPEAKER_00) to find in about a week, whether it's on eBay or elsewhere.
(SPEAKER_00) If you're patient and have a little luck on your side,
(SPEAKER_00) there are better deals to be had out there.
(SPEAKER_00) David found this puppy for just over 70 US dollars.
(SPEAKER_00) Just remember to follow our guidelines for marketplace bargain hunting,
(SPEAKER_00) if you want to avoid getting scammed. We're going to have that video linked down below.
(SPEAKER_00) The nice thing about going for AMD's AM4 socket is that there are three whole generations of
(SPEAKER_00) motherboards that you get to pick from. But we noticed a few things you're going
(SPEAKER_00) to want to watch out for. First, older generation boards turned out to cost
(SPEAKER_00) almost the same as the newer ones, but had a much higher risk of incompatibility with newer chips.
(SPEAKER_00) So make sure you double check the manufacturer's website.
(SPEAKER_00) Second, for the difference in price,
(SPEAKER_00) A series chipsets are a no-no.
(SPEAKER_00) You're gonna wanna go B series
(SPEAKER_00) in order to retain important features
(SPEAKER_00) and get what is typically higher build quality,
(SPEAKER_00) even if it costs a few more dollars.
(SPEAKER_00) So B550 and B450 ended up being the sweet spot
(SPEAKER_00) where we found multiple candidates for around $40,
(SPEAKER_00) including our ASRock B450M Pro4.
(SPEAKER_00) It's got four DDR4 DIMM slots for our 16 gigs of G.Skill Trident Z 3600 mega transfer per second RAM
(SPEAKER_00) and it's even got respectable I/O including USB Type-C.
(SPEAKER_00) Now it's not all roses, B450 is limited to PCI Express Gen 3 rather than Gen 4.
(SPEAKER_00) That means that our system could struggle to get maximum performance out of future GPUs
(SPEAKER_00) and even today, this is a compromise next to one of the PS5's most advertised features.
(SPEAKER_00) It's rockin' fast SSD.
(SPEAKER_00) Our 1TB Samsung 970 EVO+ runs at only about 3/5ths of the speed of the PlayStation 5's storage.
(SPEAKER_00) But, it's a reputable name-brand drive and, with most PC games being optimized for SATA SSDs
(SPEAKER_00) or even hard drives, there will be next to no impact in our gaming performance.
(SPEAKER_00) At least for now.
(SPEAKER_00) So smart compromise or dumb cut?
(SPEAKER_00) Let us know what you think in the comments below.
(SPEAKER_00) Speaking of cuts, we ended up saving some of our money
(SPEAKER_00) by using the kind of case
(SPEAKER_00) that might have some ragged edges on it,
(SPEAKER_00) but can be found for free or for just a few bucks
(SPEAKER_00) on a local marketplace.
(SPEAKER_00) David, this thing is huge.
(SPEAKER_00) Hell yeah.
(SPEAKER_00) Definitely Advantage PS5,
(SPEAKER_00) which with dbrand dark plates,
(SPEAKER_00) comfortably fits in an LTT backpack, lttstore.com.
(SPEAKER_00) Your mileage may vary here.
(SPEAKER_00) We got lucky-ish,
(SPEAKER_00) and this was a pretty sick case before the trauma,
(SPEAKER_00) but your goal is to pretty much find someone
(SPEAKER_00) who's dumping old office PCs or gaming skeletons like this
(SPEAKER_00) for next to, if not zero.
(SPEAKER_00) If you're patient,
(SPEAKER_00) you can often find ones with some cooling fans already installed in them to save a few more bucks.
(SPEAKER_00) The only big thing to watch out for is ATX compatibility and clearance for any longer
(SPEAKER_00) components. A Dremel can often solve compatibility issues, but you might not have one on hand.
(SPEAKER_00) Fortunately, we won't need any of that for our X650 Gold power supply from today's sponsor,
(SPEAKER_00) Seasonic. This particular unit came out almost the
(SPEAKER_00) 15 years ago, but is still going strong.
(SPEAKER_00) And what's really cool is that even if you are buying
(SPEAKER_00) secondhand, Seasonic stands behind their products hard.
(SPEAKER_00) They actually have a transferable warranty,
(SPEAKER_00) being that all you need to do is ask the seller
(SPEAKER_00) for the original sales invoice,
(SPEAKER_00) and you're covered for the entire original length.
(SPEAKER_00) Not only that, but they recently upped their warranty
(SPEAKER_00) on newer units from 10 years to 12 years.
(SPEAKER_00) Absolutely.
(SPEAKER_00) Chads.
(SPEAKER_00) Now, let's talk GPU.
(SPEAKER_00) This one, it's gonna be a little spicy.
(SPEAKER_00) But hey, spice is the spice of life, right?
(SPEAKER_00) We've gone with the Intel Arc A770.
(SPEAKER_00) I know, I know guys.
(SPEAKER_00) But compatibility has improved a lot
(SPEAKER_00) and it's got 16 gigs of GDDR6 memory all to itself
(SPEAKER_00) instead of having to share with the CPU.
(SPEAKER_00) Now, people are starting to catch on to this thing
(SPEAKER_00) and by the time this video comes out,
(SPEAKER_00) prices may have gone up a bit,
(SPEAKER_00) but we had an opportunity, so we seized it.
(SPEAKER_00) Also, we kind of wanted an excuse to see
(SPEAKER_00) how far Intel has come for ourselves
(SPEAKER_00) after a couple of years of driver updates.
(SPEAKER_00) It is worth acknowledging at this stage
(SPEAKER_00) that we could have gone with a 6700 XT
(SPEAKER_00) or a 3060 Ti at this price, but...
(SPEAKER_00) Let's game.
(SPEAKER_00) We're gonna assume you have some kind of peripherals to use,
(SPEAKER_00) so we didn't factor those into our budget.
(SPEAKER_00) But otherwise, what you're looking at
(SPEAKER_00) is an apples to apples comparison
(SPEAKER_00) between our PS5 and our PS5 killer.
(SPEAKER_00) We hope.
(SPEAKER_00) These fans don't work.
(SPEAKER_00) To kick things off, we're gonna be playing "DOOM Eternal,"
(SPEAKER_00) a game that runs at 120 FPS on the PlayStation 5, albeit.
(SPEAKER_00) at a lower resolution scale.
(SPEAKER_00) So, we've set our PC to run at 4K,
(SPEAKER_00) but 68% resolution scale.
(SPEAKER_00) And I gotta tell you, this is not looking good.
(SPEAKER_00) Not right.
(SPEAKER_00) Dude, this is basically unplayable.
(SPEAKER_00) What kind of frame rate are you...
(SPEAKER_00) Oh, wow. I'm hitting 120, baby.
(SPEAKER_00) Something is wrong.
(SPEAKER_00) Ah, there's your problem right there.
(SPEAKER_00) On the PC side...
(SPEAKER_00) you might have to do a little bit of configuration
(SPEAKER_00) with the most important one being
(SPEAKER_00) enabling above 4G decoding and resizable bar support.
(SPEAKER_00) Particularly Intel Arc does not perform its best
(SPEAKER_00) without rebar enabled.
(SPEAKER_00) Oh yeah, that is more like it.
(SPEAKER_00) Oh yeah.
(SPEAKER_00) 1% lows of 110, 115 FPS.
(SPEAKER_00) It is amazing what a difference.
(SPEAKER_00) Just making sure everything is configure-molated properly can make.
(SPEAKER_00) Dude, was this really 500 bucks though? Yeah.
(SPEAKER_00) Man, Intel Arc, not so bad after all, huh?
(SPEAKER_00) It's hard to do an apples to apples comparison here because the image quality and the settings
(SPEAKER_00) menus are not necessarily directly comparable. But what David and I can do is we can skip this
(SPEAKER_00) cut scene. -
(SPEAKER_00) And just, oh, I mean, that's interesting.
(SPEAKER_00) My field of view is so much wider than yours.
(SPEAKER_00) Oh, I can change that.
- Ah.
(SPEAKER_00) Ooh, I don't have HDR on though.
(SPEAKER_00) Oh. Let's turn that on.
(SPEAKER_00) Okay, my screen's not pretty, but what about my PlayStation?
(SPEAKER_00) Pretty frickin' nice. Do you like my PlayStation?
(SPEAKER_00) I'm the wrong person to ask, I like this case.
(SPEAKER_00) Okay, hold on, we're gonna figure this out, one second.
(SPEAKER_00) I can't think of anything more Windows
(SPEAKER_00) than having HDR issues.
(SPEAKER_00) So a huge advantage of playing on my PlayStation,
(SPEAKER_00) if I plug in an HDR display, it's like,
(SPEAKER_00) "Hey, let's calibrate, you're done."
(SPEAKER_00) I once had a computer that had such a bad HDR issue
(SPEAKER_00) that it was easier to reinstall Windows
(SPEAKER_00) than to figure out the issue.
(SPEAKER_00) I'd call you a liar, but I believe you 100%.
(SPEAKER_00) I promise it's true.
(SPEAKER_00) The next thing we discovered is that HDR support
(SPEAKER_00) on Intel Arc is a little bit spotty.
(SPEAKER_00) It turns out AMD and Nvidia have proprietary implementations
(SPEAKER_00) for how the game calls for HDR to be enabled,
(SPEAKER_00) and Intel, well.
(SPEAKER_00) It doesn't support them.
(SPEAKER_00) It uses the standard DirectX implementation.
(SPEAKER_00) So there's no denying that HDR is gonna look better
(SPEAKER_00) than SDR in any game that supports it.
(SPEAKER_00) That really pops.
(SPEAKER_00) However, now that we've got rebar enabled,
(SPEAKER_00) performance is looking pretty darn good.
(SPEAKER_00) And I'd say, who's got the edge
(SPEAKER_00) when it comes to image quality?
(SPEAKER_00) It's pretty close.
(SPEAKER_00) It's really close.
(SPEAKER_00) That when I look at this cluster of rocks,
(SPEAKER_00) the geometry and the detail and the textures
(SPEAKER_00) are looking, I think the textures
(SPEAKER_00) are a little bit better on this,
(SPEAKER_00) but the geometry detail is about the same.
(SPEAKER_00) Okay, how's it feel though?
(SPEAKER_00) Here we go.
(SPEAKER_00) The fact that I'm using an HDR display right now
(SPEAKER_00) and not getting an HDR image is a bit of a downer,
(SPEAKER_00) but most people do not have HDR displays.
(SPEAKER_00) I'm getting anywhere from 115 to 120 FPS.
(SPEAKER_00) I don't have frame view open.
(SPEAKER_00) I should open that.
(SPEAKER_00) I had frame view open one of the previous times
(SPEAKER_00) before we were diagnosing the HDR thing.
(SPEAKER_00) And I'm getting 1% lows.
(SPEAKER_00) It's in the neighborhood of around 110, 115 FPS.
(SPEAKER_00) It's really respectable.
(SPEAKER_00) Here's something,
(SPEAKER_00) you've definitely got the edge in loading times.
(SPEAKER_00) Yeah.
(SPEAKER_00) But with that said,
(SPEAKER_00) this is a lot of PC for the money.
(SPEAKER_00) It's pretty impressive.
(SPEAKER_00) I would not be surprised
(SPEAKER_00) if we managed to put together something like this
(SPEAKER_00) as a one-off.
(SPEAKER_00) You know, we negotiated everyone into the ground,
(SPEAKER_00) but the fact that we were able to find
(SPEAKER_00) with pretty good consistency,
(SPEAKER_00) parts like this available for this price,
(SPEAKER_00) it's PC gaming back.
(SPEAKER_00) Oh, a hundred percent.
(SPEAKER_00) Is the render scale at 100%?
(SPEAKER_00) Yep.
(SPEAKER_00) So this is actually better image quality than a PS5
(SPEAKER_00) because the PS5 will be 1800p.
(SPEAKER_00) Upscale to 4K.
(SPEAKER_00) And we're hitting 60.
(SPEAKER_00) I mean.
(SPEAKER_00) Pretty respectable.
(SPEAKER_00) Once again, I couldn't help noticing
(SPEAKER_00) this game looks a lot better in HDR though.
(SPEAKER_00) Yeah, those colors look a lot more vibrant.
(SPEAKER_00) This is freaking smooth.
(SPEAKER_00) One of the big things that Intel has struggled with
(SPEAKER_00) with Arc is while their average frame rate might be good,
(SPEAKER_00) the 1% lows are 1% very low.
(SPEAKER_00) Here, I'm not getting that kind of stutter.
(SPEAKER_00) This is a very, very smooth experience.
(SPEAKER_00) And what does that game run at in performance mode, 60?
(SPEAKER_00) 60.
(SPEAKER_00) Yeah, okay.
(SPEAKER_00) It's not a perfect 60.
(SPEAKER_00) It'll drop from that frame rate once in a while,
(SPEAKER_00) but it's a little more steady than this PC one.
(SPEAKER_00) But with VRR, I think I would choose that extra sharpness.
(SPEAKER_00) I was kind of surprised every time I tried upscaling,
(SPEAKER_00) it lowered the performance.
(SPEAKER_00) So, let's go quality. That's 1440p, I think.
(SPEAKER_00) Yeah.
(SPEAKER_00) My 1% lows are still the same.
(SPEAKER_00) Given that, I probably wouldn't bother,
(SPEAKER_00) but this is my first experience with Intel XCSS
(SPEAKER_00) in quite a long time, and it looks really good.
(SPEAKER_00) Yeah. Does it look better than FSR?
(SPEAKER_00) Hard to say, I'd have to look at it side by side,
(SPEAKER_00) but it's, I don't see anything obvious
(SPEAKER_00) that's jumping off the screen at me,
(SPEAKER_00) like, oh yeah, they're upscaling, it looks ugly.
(SPEAKER_00) Even distant text, super sharp.
(SPEAKER_00) Come on, PC, let's go!
(SPEAKER_00) Oh, oh, oh my gosh, your video did load first.
(SPEAKER_00) Oh!
(SPEAKER_00) Let's see who makes it in-game first.
(SPEAKER_00) What?
(SPEAKER_00) Oh, probably whoever developed the port.
(SPEAKER_00) Oh.
(SPEAKER_00) Wow, okay, that's not fair.
(SPEAKER_00) That's not fair, though.
(SPEAKER_00) That's true.
(SPEAKER_00) Oh, wow.
(SPEAKER_00) What happened?
(SPEAKER_00) Device driver humped.
(SPEAKER_00) What driver?
(SPEAKER_00) Dude, I literally installed it today.
(SPEAKER_00) All right, 20--
(SPEAKER_00) Frames per second.
(SPEAKER_00) That's lower than it was before.
(SPEAKER_00) I also set it to 4K native.
(SPEAKER_00) Oh yeah, don't do that.
(SPEAKER_00) Okay, but HDR is working in this game.
(SPEAKER_00) Hey, there we go.
(SPEAKER_00) I hope this is a 30 FPS game on PlayStation.
(SPEAKER_00) Hmm.
(SPEAKER_00) Oh, no.
(SPEAKER_00) Okay.
(SPEAKER_01) Why is it crashing so much?
(SPEAKER_00) No, no, it's got this.
(SPEAKER_00) It's got this, I believe.
(SPEAKER_00) I believe it has the power of PC.
(SPEAKER_00) The power of PC compels you.
(SPEAKER_00) Next game.
(SPEAKER_00) For God of War runs at 1440p on the PS5,
(SPEAKER_00) so we're doing some upscaling here,
(SPEAKER_00) but what we can't figure out is
(SPEAKER_00) what the heck is going on with HDR?
(SPEAKER_00) It's not in display, it's not in graphics.
(SPEAKER_00) Oh, wait.
(SPEAKER_00) Screen calibration, really, you guys?
(SPEAKER_00) I think this might be the first game.
(SPEAKER_00) That does look good.
(SPEAKER_00) New game?
(SPEAKER_00) Yeah.
(SPEAKER_00) I read that the HDR on the PC version of God of War
(SPEAKER_00) is supposed to look a little better,
(SPEAKER_00) in spite of this being a generation older TV than this one.
(SPEAKER_00) It does.
(SPEAKER_00) I think it does actually look a little better.
(SPEAKER_00) How's the details and everything?
(SPEAKER_00) It's pretty similar.
(SPEAKER_00) I think it's a little less on PC.
(SPEAKER_00) Oh.
(SPEAKER_00) This upscaling looks a little better
(SPEAKER_00) in the fine hairs of Kratos's beard.
(SPEAKER_00) Yep, it's a little softer there.
(SPEAKER_00) I gotta be looking for it, though.
(SPEAKER_00) At TV distance, I wouldn't notice.
(SPEAKER_00) It looks so similar,
(SPEAKER_00) other than that this one's a little more pop.
(SPEAKER_00) What's your FPS?
(SPEAKER_00) 60.
(SPEAKER_00) Me too.
(SPEAKER_00) Let's go.
(SPEAKER_00) Okay.
(SPEAKER_00) Go.
(SPEAKER_01) Yeah.
(SPEAKER_00) And go.
(SPEAKER_01) Yeah, this is so satisfying.
(SPEAKER_01) And go.
(SPEAKER_01) Yeah, get it, Kratos?
(SPEAKER_00) And go.
(SPEAKER_00) Crap, no, I messed up.
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(SPEAKER_00) There's no denying the results though, David.
(SPEAKER_00) This is a little less sharp,
(SPEAKER_00) but I also think I have a little bit more headroom.
(SPEAKER_00) It's hard to compare 'cause this one's locked at 60.
(SPEAKER_01) I'd be curious to see if we unlocked it,
(SPEAKER_00) what kind of numbers we would hit.
(SPEAKER_00) But that's console, baby.
(SPEAKER_00) You get what you get.
(SPEAKER_00) This actually seems like a good time to bring up
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(SPEAKER_00) Am I gonna get another one that has HDR working?
(SPEAKER_00) Looks like it.
(SPEAKER_00) You know what?
(SPEAKER_00) That's smoother though.
(SPEAKER_00) That's, I was about to say.
(SPEAKER_00) Yeah.
(SPEAKER_00) I'm pretty sure you're in 30 FPS mode here
(SPEAKER_00) 'cause that looks a little,
(SPEAKER_00) that looks a little sharper though.
(SPEAKER_00) Yeah.
(SPEAKER_00) I can really see it in the stray hairs here.
(SPEAKER_00) Oh yeah.
(SPEAKER_00) To be clear, this is very playable.
(SPEAKER_00) This is not bad, but this is definitely a little sharper.
(SPEAKER_00) Let me see what I can do to fix that up a bit over here.
(SPEAKER_00) In terms of settings, I'm running pretty much at ultra.
(SPEAKER_00) But what I haven't maxed out is my render scale, so I'm going to try rendering at 80%.
(SPEAKER_00) Rather than 70% of 4K.
(SPEAKER_00) The Last of Us is the kind of game that 30 FPS is pretty acceptable to me.
(SPEAKER_00) Are there any crucifixes nearby?
(SPEAKER_00) Because I think we're going to need one.
(SPEAKER_00) It's a cinematic game.
(SPEAKER_00) As long as I'm over 24, I'm fine.
(SPEAKER_00) Look, Ocarina of Time, 20 frames a second.
(SPEAKER_00) Greatest game of all time.
(SPEAKER_00) What can I say?
(SPEAKER_00) You've got the edge for image quality, I think.
(SPEAKER_00) These fine stray hairs are not quite looking as good.
(SPEAKER_00) I also wonder, you're set on ultra settings.
(SPEAKER_00) If maybe there's some shadow things we could bring down in some kind of optimization that would help boost you back over the edge.
(SPEAKER_00) After some more playing around, we ended up needing 70% render scale in order to get 30 FPS consistently in Last of Us Part 1.
(SPEAKER_00) It should be noted, we could absolutely hit higher frame rates if we were willing to compromise on visual fidelity.
(SPEAKER_00) But that wasn't the point of this exercise.
(SPEAKER_00) The point of this exercise was to get an as-good or, in some cases,
(SPEAKER_00) maybe even better experience with the same budget.
(SPEAKER_00) And what did we spend overall?
(SPEAKER_00) We spent $475.
(SPEAKER_00) We got $25 of wiggle room.
(SPEAKER_00) Right.
(SPEAKER_00) But we also conjured peripherals.
(SPEAKER_00) We didn't pay for a controller.
(SPEAKER_00) And realistically, we don't have a warranty on pretty much any of our parts.
(SPEAKER_00) We also had to put in the time to source all this stuff and put it together,
(SPEAKER_00) including the risk of running into broken hardware, incompatibilities.
(SPEAKER_00) We had some games.
(SPEAKER_00) We had some games that, because of our choice of an Intel Arc GPU, didn't run as well,
(SPEAKER_00) whether that's crashing or limited support for HDR.
(SPEAKER_00) So full credit to Sony and Microsoft for that matter.
(SPEAKER_00) This generation of consoles, I would say, has retained its better value than a PC status for far longer than I anticipated.
(SPEAKER_00) And it may be another year, even two years, before we can beat them with a brand new machine.
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