Classic Porsche 911 Cost of Ownership: Is This 3.2 Actually the Cheapest Air Cooled Porsche To Own?
Summary
TLDRDieses Video bietet einen Einblick in die Kosten der Besitz eines klassischen Porsche 911. Der Autor teilt seine persönlichen Kosten für den Kauf und die Wartung eines 1986er Porsche 911 über zwei Jahre mit. Von der PPI-Prüfung bis zu Reparaturen, Reparaturen und Austausch von Reifen, bis hin zu zusätzlichen Kosten für Verbesserungen und Modifikationen. Er vergleicht auch seine Erfahrungen mit anderen Porsche-Modellen und gibt einen Einblick in die allgemeinen Kosten der Besitz eines solchen Fahrzeugs.
Takeaways
- 🚗 Der Kanal ist dediziert dem Besitz und der Erfahrung mit klassischen Luftgekühlten Porsche 911.
- 📈 Der Besitzer teilt die Kosten des Besitzes einer 1986er Porsche 911 aus zwei Jahren mit.
- 💰 Die Kosten des Besitzes umfassen Reparaturen, Räder, Lackreparatur und diverse andere Kosten.
- 🔍 Vor dem Kauf wurde eine PPI durchgeführt, die 850 Dollar kostete, darunter auch eine Kompressions- und Lecktest.
- ✈️ Zusätzliche Kosten für den Kauf umfassen Flug, Hotel und Mietwagen für den Transport der mitgekauften Teile.
- 🔄 Der Besitzer entschied sich nach der Reparatur des Sonnenschutzes, verschiedene Reparaturen und Wartungen durchzuführen.
- 🛠️ Es wurden auch Upgrades und Änderungen an der Fahrzeugausrüstung vorgenommen, einschließlich des Wechsels des Auspuffsystems.
- 💡 Die Kosten für den Besitz des Fahrzeugs beliefen sich auf 11.295 Dollar und 26 Cent, ohne den Kaufpreis.
- 📊 Im Vergleich zum vorherigen Besitzer, der das Fahrzeug über 6,5 Jahre für 28.000 Dollar gehalten hat, ist die jährliche Kostenstruktur unterschiedlich.
- 📈 Der Kaufpreis des Fahrzeugs im Jahr 2019 lag bei 47.000 Dollar, was auf eine Gesamtkosten von etwa 59.000 Dollar für zwei Jahre schließen lässt.
- 🤔 Der Besitzer reflektiert über den Wert des Fahrzeugs im heutigen Markt und den persönlichen Kosten des Besitzes.
Q & A
Was kostet der Besitz eines klassischen Porsche 911 im Durchschnitt pro Jahr?
-Der Besitzer des 1986 Porsche 911 hat im Durchschnitt 5600 Dollar pro Jahr für den Betrieb des Fahrzeugs ausgegeben.
Wie viel hat der Besitzer für den Kauf des 1986 Porsche 911 ausgegeben?
-Der Besitzer hat im November 2019 47.000 Dollar für den 1986 Porsche 911 gezahlt.
Was sind die Hauptkosten, die der Besitzer für den Betrieb des Porsche 911 in den letzten zwei Jahren hatte?
-Die Hauptkosten umfassen den Kauf des Fahrzeugs, Reparaturen, Ersatzreifen, Lackkorrektur, Servicearbeiten wie Ölwechsel und Batterieersatz, sowie Aushängeschilder wie Wechsel des Exhausts und Radiofehlerbehebungen.
Wie hat der Besitz des 1986 Porsche 911 im Vergleich zum 993 und 964 ausgefallen?
-Der Besitzer fand, dass der 1986 Porsche 911 weniger störanfällig und kostengünstiger im Betrieb als die 993 und 964 war.
Was sind die Kosten für die ursprünglichen Reifen, die auf das 1986 Porsche 911 montiert wurden?
-Die ursprünglichen Michelin AS3 Plus Reifen kosteten 848 Dollar, einschließlich Montage und Balancieren für 319 Dollar, also insgesamt 1167 Dollar.
Welche Reparatur oder Modifikation war die teuersten im Laufe der beiden Jahre?
-Die teuersten Kosten entfielen auf eine umfangreiche Reparatur und Modifikation, die 2640,57 Dollar kostete, einschließlich des Wechsels des Exhausts, Einbau eines Weevo Classic Shift Kits und diverser anderen Reparaturen.
Was hat der Besitzer über den Zustand des Fahrzeugs nach zwei Jahren gesagt?
-Der Besitzer fand, dass das Fahrzeug im Vergleich zum Kaufpreis und den Betriebskosten im Marktwert gut positioniert ist und er sich gut finanziell darin befindet.
Welche zusätzlichen Kosten flossen beim Kauf des Fahrzeugs zusammen?
-Zusätzlich zum Kaufpreis flossen Kosten für eine PPI (Preis-Performance-Index), Flugtickets, Hotel und Miete eines U-Haul Trucks zusammen, was insgesamt etwa 2000 Dollar betrug.
Was war das Hauptproblem mit den ursprünglichen Reifen, die auf das Fahrzeug montiert wurden?
-Der Hauptkritikpunkt an den ursprünglichen Michelin AS3 Plus Reifen war, dass sie für den Bedarf des Fahrzeugs nicht ideal waren, weshalb sie nach etwa einem Jahr gegen Yokohama Advance Reifen ausgetauscht wurden.
Was war die Gründe des Besitzers, das Fahrzeug nicht zu verkaufen?
-Der Besitzer entschied sich, das Fahrzeug nicht zu verkaufen, weil es sehr gut dokumentiert und erhalten war und er an dem Wagen noch Freude hatte.
Was sind die Einschätzungen des Besitzers über den aktuellen Marktwert des 1986 Porsche 911?
-Der Besitzer hat nicht direkt einen Marktwert genannt, aber er bemerkte, dass ähnliche Fahrzeuge im Markt für 65.000 bis 70.000 Dollar gehandelt wurden.
Outlines
🚗 Einführung in die Kostenanalyse einer klassischen Porsche 911
Der Autor präsentiert seinen YouTube-Kanal, der sich auf die Erfahrung des Fahrens und Besitzes von klassischen Luftgekühlten Porsche 911s konzentriert. Er kündigt an, die Kosten des Besitzes einer 1986er Porsche 911 für zwei Jahre zu analysieren, inklusive genauer Reparaturkosten und Gesamtkosten. Zudem teilt er mit, dass er das Fahrzeug für 47.000 Dollar erworben hat, bevor der Markt für diese Fahrzeuge stark nach oben ging. Er lädt die Zuschauer ein, sich anzuschließen, um mehr über die Kosten und die Besonderheiten des Besitzes solcher Fahrzeuge zu erfahren.
🔍 Kostendetailanalyse für die Porsche 911
Der Autor listet die verschiedenen Kosten auf, die mit dem Besitz der 1986er Porsche 911 verbunden sind. Er beginnt mit den Kaufnebenkosten wie der PPI-Prüfung, Flugkosten, Hotel und Mietwagen. Anschließend werden Reparaturen und Wartungsarbeiten aufgeführt, darunter Reifenwechsel, Lackierungskorrektur, Dachdach-Reparatur, Batteriewechsel, Getriebeölwechsel und diverse andere Reparaturen. Er betont, dass die Kosten für den Erwerb von Reifen und weitere Reparaturen im Laufe des Jahres nicht repräsentativ für alle Besitzer sind, da einige der Kostenwahl sind. Der Abschnitt endet mit einer Zusammenfassung der Gesamtkosten des Besitzes ohne den Kaufpreis des Fahrzeugs.
📊 Vergleich der Kosten des Porsche 911 Besitzes
Der Autor vergleicht seine Kosten des Besitzes der 1986er Porsche 911 mit denen des vorherigen Besitzers, der das Fahrzeug für sechseinhalb Jahre besessen hat. Er stellt fest, dass sein jährlicher Betrag von 5.600 Dollar im Vergleich zum vorherigen Besitzers jährlichen Betrag von 4.300 Dollar höher ist. Der Autor reflektiert über den Kaufpreis von 47.000 Dollar und die Gesamtkosten von etwa 59.000 Dollar für den Kauf und den Besitz des Fahrzeugs über zwei Jahre. Er fordert die Meinung der Zuschauer, ob diese Kosten angemessen sind und vergleicht seine Erfahrung mit dem Besitz von 993 und 964 Modellen, die teurer waren.
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Keywords
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💡Reparaturmaßnahmen
💡Kosten pro Jahr
💡Kaufpreis
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Highlights
The video provides an in-depth look at the cost of ownership for a classic 1986 Porsche 911 over two years.
The owner shares exact repair costs and the total expenses incurred during the ownership period.
The channel focuses on air-cooled Porsche 911 ownership, experience, and related costs.
An invitation to subscribe for more content on Porsche 911 ownership and related topics.
A newly formed Facebook group for enthusiasts to engage with each other on a deeper level.
The car was bought with 76,000 miles and now has 84,000 miles, reflecting active use rather than being a garage queen.
The car was purchased from a seller in Atlanta, Georgia, found through PCA classifieds.
The owner considered selling the car but decided against it due to its cleanliness and well-documented history.
Plans to do some reversible modifications to the car to make it more exciting.
A pre-purchase inspection (PPI) with compression and leakdown test was conducted costing $850.
The total cost of acquisition, including travel and additional expenses, was around $2,000.
Tire replacement and alignment services after discovering the need during the PPI.
Paint correction was done to enhance the car's appearance, costing $900.
Repairs for a sunroof leak and other maintenance tasks totaled $1,737.94.
A new battery, AC fan repair, clutch lever adjustment, and brake fluid flush cost $660.
The owner replaced the initial tires with Yokohama Advan tires due to dissatisfaction, costing over $1,200.
A comprehensive service including a shift kit installation, exhaust swap, and various part replacements totaled $2,640.57.
The most recent service included exhaust replacement, oil change, and electrical repairs, costing $1,315.05.
The total cost of ownership for the Porsche 911, excluding the car's purchase price, is $11,295.26 over two years.
Comparison of annual costs between the owner and the previous owner, showing a difference in annual expenses.
The original purchase price of the car was $47,000 in November 2019.
The owner's experience with the 3.2 model has been more trouble-free compared to the 993 and 964 models.
An invitation for viewers to share their thoughts and experiences with Porsche 911 ownership in the comments.
Transcripts
what's up guys will here with rent
enthusiast my youtube channel centering
on aircool porsche 911 ownership
experience and if you were here today
because you're trying to learn more
about the cost of ownership of classic
porsche 911s then you're in the right
place because i'm going to take you
through exactly what it's cost me to own
this 1986 porsche 911 behind me
for two solid years in this video i'm
going to take you through the exact
repairs the car has required i'm going
to give you exact to the penny prices
for what each of those has cost and then
i'm going to share with you my all in
cost of ownership for this car over the
course of two years and i'm going to
tell you how much i paid for the car as
well before i jump into that content
though i'd like to invite you to
subscribe to this channel i cover things
just like this how much it costs to live
with own enjoy and sometimes hate
these porsche 911s i also include owner
interviews and porsche events so if
that's your kind of thing definitely
subscribe i'd also like to invite you to
join my newly formed facebook group
called enthusiast aircool porsche fans
we're right at 500 members and growing
rapidly and what i'm really enjoying
about this particular group is guys are
able to engage with each other on a much
deeper level than they can with this
channel so please come join and i'm
going to tell you this too please don't
forget to answer the membership
questions okay let me give you a little
bit of background on this 86 kind of
bring you up to speed in case you're new
to the channel i have owned this car for
right at two years
when i bought it it had 76 000 miles on
it it now has 84 000 miles and many of
those miles that i put on the car have
been done on back roads up in the
mountains so this car gets used it is
not a garage queen i think that the
costs of ownership that i'm going to
share with you today are definitely
reflective of having a car that gets
used i bought the car from a seller in
atlanta georgia i found it on the pca
classifieds which by the way that's one
of my favorite spots to to buy these
cars you generally find sellers who have
cared for and treasured their cars
so i'm not going to get into all that i
did a video on where to find a classic
porsche 911 and so i'll put a card up to
that video and you can go investigate
that if you're in the market and trying
to figure out where to buy one of these
cars i owned the car for two years it
has been
mostly trouble free you can be the judge
of that after you hear everything i've
had to do to it
compared to my 993 and my 964 it's
definitely been a lot less troublesome
and less expensive to be honest with you
to keep on the road
i have actually kind of a sidebar given
a little bit of thought to selling this
86
i started to write an ad
i took pictures for a for sale ad as
well and then i started digging into the
documentation i have on the car is kind
of you know getting it prepped
to to list all that information in the
ad and it just struck me
how clean this car is how well
documented this car is and so i decided
not to sell it at least for now i am
going to be doing some reversible mods
to the car to kind of make it a little
bit more exciting to me
those mods will be featured in upcoming
videos so i'll get into that on a
different day
that's a little bit of background about
the car i'll now take you through all
the costs of ownership here i'm going to
include as much as i possibly can in
terms of like what i know i've spent on
the car candidly i have not tracked like
fuel costs and all that kind of thing so
if you're super anal about that kind of
thing i'm sorry this video is just not
down at that granular of a level but
hopefully it'll give you a sense and a
feel for what it would cost to buy and
to own a car like this
um i am going to start at the top okay
so i had a ppi done on the car with the
compression and leakdown test before i
bought it that cost me 850
cost me 450 to buy a plane ticket to fly
down to atlanta and
buy the car and drive it back the hotel
cost me 250 and then i had to rent a
u-haul truck
um
for 450 and the reason is that the
seller kindly included a lot of parts
that came with the car when i bought it
so i flew down to atlanta bought the car
drove it home had to rent a u-haul go
back down there and haul all the stuff
home so what i'll call like my cost of
acquisition
two thousand dollars
shortly after buying the car i needed to
replace the tires this is something that
was discovered during the ppi it was a
known i had no problem with it
i ended up initially putting a set of
michelin as3 pluses on it they were they
were all weather tires weren't that
great i'll get into that in a minute but
those those tires cost me 848 dollars to
mount balance and a line cost 319. so
the total of that service was 1167.
i also decided that i wanted to get the
paint corrected and i'm so glad i did
the car was
unbelievable once i got that done and i
spent 900 on it i did a video on that
admittedly it's a pretty old video now
the quality is not super awesome but if
you're interested i'll put a card up
for you so you can go check that out
drove the car for a little while after
that paint correction and uh
headed out in a rainstorm which i think
you know if you've been around you know
that i drive these cars rain or shine
but unfortunately i discovered that it
had a sunroof leak so i had to take it
into the shop so
while it was in there getting the
sunroof repaired i had a number of other
things done to it which i'll list here
and then i'll give you a total to repair
the sunroof leak to get the transmission
fluid change to repair the battery
bracket to get an oil change and to
replace a low beam headlight power wire
the headlights were acting funny
that was right at seventeen hundred and
thirty seven dollars and ninety four
cents one other item that i had done to
it as part of that service i had the
door catch adjusted just a little bit it
wasn't catching just right
sidebar one flaw with this car is the
driver door has been painted i'm not
really sure what happened there but
whoever repaired it didn't get the door
aligned just right so i had charles my
mechanic
you know rework that to to get it more
in alignment that was the first service
um i drove the car for a little while
then a couple of other items came up the
battery began to get weak so i needed a
new battery the ac fan also started
making a clatter um something called the
squirrel cage it's in the front i guess
the fan spins in it and it became
misaligned and so it was just making a
bit of a clatter it was still working
but it was just making noise
i needed the clutch lever adjusted and i
had to do a brake fluid flush all of
that was 660
i touched on this earlier i wasn't
really happy with the as3 plus tires
that i put on the car and so i elected
to go ahead and replace those with
another set of tires
maybe a year after i put them on there
and i ended up going with yokohama
advance for a thousand and fifty five
dollars the mounting balance and
alignment was 218.62
for a total of 1274.46
now you need to bear in mind that you
might not buy two sets of tires for your
car in the span of a year right so like
that wouldn't necessarily be a clear
representation of what it would cost you
to own a car like this drove the car for
a little while um
went to a rally when i was at the rally
i learned a few more things about some
mods that some guys had done and true to
form when i came home i was like man i
want to make some changes and so i had a
fairly robust service done that i'm
getting ready to share with you i had my
mechanic put on a weevo classic shift
kit
i also i swapped the exhaust so the
seller included with the car but not on
the car a custom dual center exit
exhaust setup
and the exhaust looked cool didn't sound
that great after i had it put on but the
biggest killer for it is it didn't have
heat exchangers i did have my mechanic
put that on and i survived a winter
without
heat i have since had the oem exhaust
put back on but as part of this service
i had him do the exhaust swap as well
got a new shift knob front crank seal
intermediate shaft o-ring the motor had
started to to seep a little bit
new distributor cat new rotor
air filter and also the radio kept
blowing so i had the radio fuse replaced
and i guess he kind of repaired some
wiring there too but the total of that
service was 2 640 and 57 cents the most
recent service that i've had done on the
car um and again there's some work done
in here that you wouldn't necessarily
have to do it's been purely elective on
my part but this is the one where i had
him replace the exhaust put the original
exhaust back on
it's autumn here in the united states
and i i just can't face another winter
without heat
and so i had him put the exhaust back on
i had an oil change done i had the weevo
shifter needed to be adjusted a little
bit i kept nicking reverse when i was
going from fifth to fourth not good i
had him replace a window switch and also
my brake light kept blowing out and it
turned out that a wire had uh worn
through and was making contact with the
body so it just it kept blowing a fuse
so the total for that
was one thousand three hundred and
fifteen dollars and five cents so here
we are the total cost of ownership for
this classic porsche 911
11 295 dollars and 26 cents without the
cost of the car so that's how much it's
cost me to keep it on the road up to
standard where i wanted it with some
elective stuff some required stuff for
the course of two years
that brings us to a 5600
per year running cost
on this
3.2 now i want to add a little bit more
color to this for you because
i am able to pull information about what
it cost the previous owner to own the
car for six and a half years so
he ended up spending and he and i are
friends i texted him with this
information he ended up spending twenty
eight thousand dollars over the course
of six and a half years of ownership of
this 86 3.2 uh what that worked out to
for him on a per year basis is 4 300 per
year he did a pretty major project
somewhere in there it was about 12 grand
it was like suspension wheels tires he
upgraded the ac system
all of that and that ended up
getting baked in there so it actually
cost him less on an annual basis than it
cost to be so it cost him 4 300 a year
it cost me 5 600 so there you go
i did
commit to you on the front end of this
video that i would share with you what i
paid for this car you need to remember
that i bought this car before the air
cooled porsche 911
feeding frenzy
fever that has stricken the marketplace
and so um i think this car would be a
lot more today whether or not those
values hold steady i don't know that's a
different topic for a different day
but in november of 2019 i spent 47
thousand dollars on this car so this car
has cost me
over the course of two years to buy the
car and to carry the car right around 59
000 and so i'd love to hear your
thought process uh around that in the
comments like is that a lot is that
about right is that did i have i gotten
out cheaply um
we just would love to get your reactions
and if you own one of these cars i'd
love to know how that compares to your
experience as well
i think in this market how about this i
won't i won't project what i think this
car is worth i will say that i've seen
similar cars to this one shockingly go
for like 65 and 70 000 so
bottom line is i feel good about where i
am in this car financially and um you
know that just adds to a sense of of a
feeling of well-being about the car and
another reason to hang on to it
i also just want to touch on really
quickly how my ownership experience of
this 3.2 has compared to the 993 and the
964.
i think i might have touched on this
earlier it has been far
more trouble free than the 993 and the
964. the 993 i embarked on a pretty
major outlaw project in that car and
that cost me a fair amount of money i
don't think that's a fair kind of cost
of ownership
representation to talk about that when i
talk about what it's cost me to carry
this car for two years but the 993 has
been more expensive to own the 964 as
well i'll put a card up to my recent
video about what it cost me to sort
that car immediately after buying it
a lot more expensive so there you have
it i hope that you've gotten something
out of this video if you're doing
research and you're in the market and
you're thinking about buying one of
these cars
hopefully my you know experience over
the course of the two years has given
you some food for thought to give you a
realist realistic excuse me expectation
on what you're in for if you buy one of
these cars so again this is the kind of
thing i do uh you know true to life
transparent ownership experience of
classic porsche 911 so if this is your
thing and you haven't yet subscribed
please do and also please go check out
that facebook group enthusiast air
cooled porsche fans until next time
i'm outta here
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