What's Really Happening with RIIZE's Seunghan!

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13 Dec 202308:15

Summary

TLDRThe script discusses the challenges faced by the K-pop group RISE, particularly focusing on member Sunan, who has been embroiled in multiple scandals prior to and following the group's debut under SM Entertainment. Accusations range from underage drinking to dating controversies, leading to a significant backlash from fans and the public. Sunan's mental health has been impacted, resulting in an indefinite hiatus. The group's future is uncertain, with SM Entertainment's recent actions suggesting Sunan may be permanently removed from RISE, despite no official statement on his status.

Takeaways

  • πŸš€ Rise was a highly anticipated boy group debuting under SM Entertainment, with a unique lineup including former NCT members and a famous producer's son.
  • 😒 The group faced numerous scandals prior to their debut, including accusations of plastic surgery and photo editing, which were common in the K-pop industry.
  • πŸ˜– Member Sunan was targeted with serious allegations, including mistreatment, underage drinking, and gang associations, although these were largely unproven.
  • πŸ“Έ Sunan's personal life was heavily scrutinized after private photos with his ex-girlfriend surfaced, leading to a significant backlash from Korean netizens.
  • πŸ’” The hate campaign against Sunan affected his mental health, causing him to miss appearances and be seen crying, highlighting the impact of public scrutiny on idols.
  • πŸ—£οΈ Other members also faced accusations, such as Anton being linked to a relationship with 17's Vernon's sister, despite being just friends.
  • πŸ”— A mistranslation of a live stream involving Sunan and TXT's Subin led to further backlash, showing how easily misunderstandings can escalate in the K-pop scene.
  • 🚬 Sunan faced additional controversy when a video of him holding a lit cigarette was leaked, sparking debates about idols' personal habits and privacy.
  • πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ An anonymous Instagram user made unverified claims about Sunan's behavior, further fueling the negative narrative around him.
  • ⏸️ SM Entertainment placed Sunan on an indefinite hiatus, possibly to protect him from the public and to assess the group's future without him.
  • πŸ”„ The group's upcoming comeback on January 5th is clouded by the controversy, with Sunan's presence and future in the group uncertain.

Q & A

  • What was the anticipation surrounding the debut of RISE?

    -RISE's debut was highly anticipated as they were the first boy group to debut under SM Entertainment after NCT, and they included two former NCT members and a member who is the son of a famous producer, which generated considerable buzz.

  • What were the initial accusations against RISE members before their debut?

    -The initial accusations included rumors about members getting plastic surgery and using photo editing to enhance their appearance, which were not taken seriously as such accusations are common among idols.

  • What serious allegations did Juan face during the pre-debut period?

    -Juan faced allegations of mistreatment, frequenting hunting bars and drinking underage, and negative associations with a gang member, although these were unproven and seen as a smear campaign.

  • What was the biggest scandal involving Sunan before RISE's debut?

    -The biggest scandal involving Sunan was the surfacing of old photos of him kissing his ex-girlfriend, which led to a hate campaign against him, including false allegations of being a gold digger and cheater.

  • How did the scandal involving Sunan's private live stream with TXT's Subin unfold?

    -A private live stream between Sunan and Subin was mistranslated to make it seem like they were mocking another artist, leading to backlash. This was followed by further criticism from fans of other groups over jokes made during the stream.

  • What was the reaction to the leaked video of Sunan holding a cigarette?

    -The leaked video caused an uproar as smoking is frowned upon for idols, leading to calls for Sunan's removal from the group despite his fans defending his personal choices.

  • What were the accusations made by an Instagram user claiming to be an old friend of Sunan?

    -The Instagram user accused Sunan of being bossy, bragging about meeting female trainees, and having a controlling attitude, but these claims were made without any supporting evidence.

  • Why did SM Entertainment put Sunan on an indefinite hiatus?

    -Sunan was put on an indefinite hiatus by SM Entertainment likely to protect him from the public backlash and to manage the situation until they could resolve the controversies surrounding him.

  • What actions by SM Entertainment led to speculation that Sunan might be leaving RISE?

    -SM Entertainment's actions, such as removing Sunan's highlights from Instagram, editing him out of group videos, and excluding his name from promotional materials, led to speculation that he might be leaving the group.

  • How might RISE's upcoming comeback on January 5th be affected by Sunan's situation?

    -The upcoming comeback might be used by SM Entertainment to test how the group performs without Sunan. If successful, it could indicate that the group will do well regardless of his presence, potentially affecting the decision to bring him back.

Outlines

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🚨 Rise's Pre-Debut Controversies and Sunan's Struggles

Rise, a boy group under SM Entertainment, faced numerous scandals prior to their debut, which was highly anticipated due to their connection to SM and the inclusion of former NCT members. Initial rumors about plastic surgery were common in the industry and not taken seriously. However, accusations escalated to include mistreatment, underage drinking, and gang associations, which were largely unproven. The most significant scandal involved Sunan, with allegations of dating a minor, being a gold digger, and cheating. Photos of him with an ex-girlfriend and smoking further fueled public backlash. Despite being an adult and the incidents being in his past, these controversies led to a hate campaign against him, affecting his mental health and causing him to miss appearances and be seen crying. Other members were also implicated in relationship rumors, and the group faced criticism for their appearance and singing abilities.

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πŸ” Sunan's Indefinite Hiatus and Speculations on His Future with Rise

The controversies surrounding Sunan led to an indefinite hiatus, with SM Entertainment's actions fueling speculation that he might be removed from the group. SM's recent moves, such as removing Sunan from group content and editing him out of videos, suggest a potential permanent exclusion. Despite being on hiatus, the complete erasure of Sunan from group materials is unusual and has led to widespread belief that he may be leaving Rise. The announcement of a group comeback without Sunan's name in the edited article and the exclusion of his name and presence from promotional materials have intensified these suspicions. Fans and industry insiders are closely watching the situation, hoping for a resolution that allows Sunan to either return to the group or have his name cleared.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Pre-debut scandals

Pre-debut scandals refer to controversies or negative incidents that occur before a group or individual officially enters the entertainment industry. In the video, the group RISE faced multiple scandals prior to their debut, which included accusations of plastic surgery, underage drinking, and mistreatment allegations. These scandals are significant as they set a narrative of controversy around the group, potentially affecting their public image and reception.

πŸ’‘SM Entertainment

SM Entertainment is a major South Korean entertainment company known for managing some of the most popular K-pop groups. The video mentions RISE as the first boy group to debut under SM Entertainment after NCT, highlighting the high expectations and the pressure that comes with being part of such a prestigious company. The scandals surrounding RISE are particularly noteworthy given the company's reputation for managing successful and controversy-free groups.

πŸ’‘Mistreatment allegations

Mistreatment allegations are accusations of improper or abusive behavior towards others. In the context of the video, Juan, a member of RISE, faced such allegations based on a graduation picture without substantial evidence. These allegations are serious as they can damage an individual's reputation and career, and they are part of the broader pattern of scrutiny and criticism that the group faced.

πŸ’‘Underage drinking

Underage drinking refers to the consumption of alcohol by someone below the legal drinking age. The video mentions accusations against member SOI for frequenting hunting bars and drinking underage. This is a sensitive issue in the entertainment industry, especially in South Korea, where idols are expected to maintain a clean image. The accusation contributes to the negative press surrounding RISE.

πŸ’‘Hate campaign

A hate campaign is a coordinated effort to spread negative information or opinions about someone with the intent to harm their reputation. In the video, Sunan, a member of RISE, is a target of such a campaign, with his past relationship and personal choices being used against him. The hate campaign is a significant part of the narrative as it illustrates the intense public scrutiny and the personal toll it takes on the individual.

πŸ’‘Privacy violation

Privacy violation occurs when personal information or activities are exposed without consent. The video discusses instances where Sunan's privacy was violated, such as the release of private photos and videos. This is a critical issue as it not only affects the individual's right to privacy but also raises questions about the ethics of sharing such content without consent.

πŸ’‘Indefinite Hiatus

An indefinite hiatus refers to a break or pause in activities that is not specified to end at a certain time. In the video, Sunan is placed on an indefinite hiatus by SM Entertainment, possibly to protect him from the ongoing controversies and public backlash. This decision is a significant turning point in the narrative, indicating the severity of the situation and the uncertainty of Sunan's future with the group.

πŸ’‘Public scrutiny

Public scrutiny is the intense examination or criticism by the public, often through media and social platforms. The video highlights how RISE and its members faced public scrutiny due to various scandals. This scrutiny is a central theme, as it demonstrates the pressure and impact that public opinion can have on the careers of idols.

πŸ’‘Netizens

Netizens are individuals who participate in online communities and discussions. In the context of the video, netizens play a significant role in spreading rumors and opinions about RISE and its members, contributing to the scandals and controversies. The term illustrates the power of online public opinion and its influence on the entertainment industry.

πŸ’‘Idol image

An idol image refers to the public persona and characteristics that an idol or celebrity presents to their fans and the public. The video discusses how the scandals and controversies surrounding RISE challenged the group's image, with fans and the public questioning their suitability as idols. Maintaining a positive idol image is crucial in the entertainment industry, and the video shows how easily it can be tarnished.

πŸ’‘Comeback

A comeback in the entertainment industry refers to a return to the public eye after a period of absence or inactivity. The video mentions RISE's planned comeback, which is a significant event for the group as it indicates their intention to continue their activities despite the controversies. However, the editing of Sunan's name from the announcement raises questions about his involvement and the group's future without him.

Highlights

Rise's debut was highly anticipated as the first boy group under SM Entertainment after NCT.

The group faced numerous scandals before and after their debut, affecting their public image.

Juanin faced mistreatment allegations, but these were quickly forgotten due to lack of evidence.

SOI was accused of frequenting hunting bars and underage drinking, but these claims were unproven.

Sunhan's old photos with his ex-girlfriend caused controversy, leading to false allegations of him dating a minor.

Sunhan faced a hate campaign that deeply affected his mental well-being.

Other members were also accused of being in relationships, causing public scrutiny.

Sunhan was criticized for a private live stream with TXT's Subin, due to a mistranslation that made it seem offensive.

L Seraphim's fans were upset with Sunhan for jokingly referring to En as 'our yon'.

An old picture and video of Sunhan smoking were leaked, causing an uproar among fans.

An Instagram user claimed to expose Sunhan's bad behavior, but without evidence.

SM Entertainment put Sunhan on indefinite hiatus, possibly to protect him from public backlash.

SM Entertainment's recent actions suggest Sunhan might be removed from the group.

Rise is set to make a comeback, but the original announcement was edited to remove Sunhan's name.

Fans and industry insiders speculate on Sunhan's future with the group after his hiatus.

SM Entertainment has yet to announce Sunhan's status, leaving his future with the group uncertain.

Transcripts

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from too many pre-debut scandals to a

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member going on Hiatus shortly after

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let's take a look at what's going on

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with rise and are they ever getting back

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to their original lineup the group's

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debut had been one of the most highly

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anticipated as they were the first boy

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group to debut under SM Entertainment

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after NCT with two former NCT members

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and a member who's the son of a famous

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producer there was considerable Buzz

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around their debut being an SM group had

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also naturally made people curious so to

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say that people thought that they would

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be successful and popular would be an

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understatement but again would they

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really be an SM Entertainment Group if

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they didn't have a scandal or two before

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debuting except when it came to rise it

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seemed like somebody really had it out

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for the members and wanted to make sure

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that they wouldn't debut without facing

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a lot of scrutiny from the public and

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even the fans initially the rumors

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weren't all that bad in fact compared to

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the accusations that the members faced

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later on these were Child's Play There

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were multiple online posts about the

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members supposedly getting plastic

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surgery and using photo editing to make

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them look better these weren't taken as

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seriously because which Idol hasn't had

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at least one plastic surgery accusation

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against them but then the accusations

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took a more serious turn juanin also

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faced mistreatment allegations backed

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only by a graduation picture without any

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other proof so they were quickly

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forgotten some neens did believe the

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rumors but mostly everyone saw that this

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was a smear campaign more than anything

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else following that accusations surfaced

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about SOI frequenting hunting bars and

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drinking there while underage there were

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also negative associations made with one

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of so's friends linking them to a gang

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but this hasn't been proved moreover

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there were some minor criticisms

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regarding the members appearances and

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singing abilities there were complaints

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about their haircuts and the clothes

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they wore and despite the members being

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trained vocalists and very good people

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claimed that they were bad singers make

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it make sense however the biggest

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Scandal emerged when a bunch of sun

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Han's old photos of him kissing his

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ex-girlfriend surfaced this should have

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been considered normal right Sunan had

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had a life before debuting took pictures

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of it and it was all in the past well

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Korean neens didn't think so because he

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was the center of a lot of hate on

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online forums rumors ended up escalating

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further with claims that Sunan had been

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dating a minor failing to mention they

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were close in age during their

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relationship and that he had been

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underage during the relationship as well

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webo was then flooded with other more

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serious but also false allegations

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painting Sunan as a gold digger and

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cheater which had fans demanding that

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the company remove him from the group

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through online posts petitions and even

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protest trucks of course Sunan is only

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human so this hate campaign deeply

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affected his mental well-being despite

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not even even properly debuting he had

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hundreds of strangers wishing him the

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worst due to his past relationship the

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situation led him to miss a scheduled

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appearance and he was even seen crying

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during a pre-recording other members

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were also accused of being in

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relationships such as Anton being

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accused of dating 17s Vernon's sister

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despite the fact that they were just

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friends additionally Sun Chan came under

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scrutiny for advising against having

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sushi for dinner at this point you could

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tell that people didn't care whether

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they were good people or not they just

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wanted to put the group down in any way

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they could but then it got worse for

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Sunan specifically he did apologize for

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that pre-debut picture of him and his

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girlfriend but unfortunately the rumors

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against him just kept piling up the

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second Scandal that he faced involved a

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private live stream with him in txt

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subin on November 16th nobody had even

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known that the two were friends but that

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wasn't exactly what the point of all

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this was in the leaked live stream the

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two can be heard exchanging jokes and

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teasing one another during their

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conversation Sunan made light-hearted

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remarks about subin's past collaboration

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with laraim Yun who's under the same as

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subin this was all fairly normal until

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the translation page panoa made a post

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about the conversation but translated it

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to make it seem like the two were making

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fun of Yun the careless mistranslation

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made San and subin face a lot of

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backlash from International fans who

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bashed the two for their personalities

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you'd think this would end once the

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issue got cleared up but then Sunan

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ended up facing criticism from L

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seraphim's fans some people were upset

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because Sunan jokingly referred to en as

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our yon which didn't sit well with fans

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so despite their efforts to support

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sonan and clear his name he still got a

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lot of criticism from internet users for

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the way he joked about un unfortunately

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the accusations against him didn't end

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there Sunan didn't have the chance to

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breathe even for a second as the very

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next day after the private live stream

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with subin someone anonymously posted an

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old picture and video of sonan which

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again were scandalous to neens on

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November 17th an unknown account on

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Twitter shared a video of him holding a

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lit cigarette near his mouth causing a

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lot of uproar the post was then deleted

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but the damage had already been done as

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the post had been screenshotted and

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shared everywhere again it's not like

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the pictures were a big deal in the

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grand scheme of things smoking is

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frowned upon when it comes to Idols

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which caused a lot of neens to be upset

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at him they said that an idol under such

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a big company shouldn't act like this

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and asked for his immediate removal from

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the company his fans obviously defended

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him saying he's free to make his own

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choices especially considering that he

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was an adult sure smoking is a nasty

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habit but again we're talking about

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someone's personal choices here in fact

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fans were right in pointing out that the

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issue wasn't about the fact that he was

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smoking smoking but that his privacy was

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being violated in a very disturbing way

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considering the photos and video of him

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smoking were private but not only that

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the picture of him and his ex-girlfriend

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were also private as was his live stream

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with subin it would be somewhat sensible

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to expose him if he was genuinely a bad

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person or harming someone but the person

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who's leaking all of these things knew

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just what buttons to push to piss the

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netizens off and make them hate sonan

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the nail in the coffin came when an

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Instagram user who claimed to be an old

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friend of sonan posted a few stories

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allegedly exposing his bad behavior

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according to this person Sean used to

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smoke and drink openly even going live

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on Instagram without informing his

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company this Anonymous poster also

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accused shunan of being bossy and

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bragging about meeting female trainees

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from other companies allegedly his

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controlling attitude and disrespectful

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language LED his friends to keep their

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distance and cut their ties with him

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however this slanderous post didn't have

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any evidence to support these claims yet

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everyone acted like everything that was

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stated was a fact the hate train against

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him got a lot worse after this post and

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it became very hard to handle for both

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Sunan and seemingly SM Entertainment so

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in an attempt to resolve all this SM put

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him in an indefinite Hiatus probably to

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hide him from the public until they can

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put everything in line however not

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everyone seems to think so in fact a lot

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of fans and even industry insiders are

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convinced that Sunan is going to be

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kicked out of the group altogether and

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sm's recent moves prove this the best at

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first they removed siong Han's

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highlights from Instagram and then

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edited him out of a group video on

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rise's official YouTube channel despite

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his presence during filming in the

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entire 20-minute video he didn't make a

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single appearance as the company even

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cropped the scenes where the whole group

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was standing together to exclude him and

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cut out moments where he was with

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everyone else he nor his name also no

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longer appears in the beginning or end

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of the group's content this would have

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made sense if sonan had left the group

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as this is exactly what source music did

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when they terminated Gram's contract

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However the fact that they're doing this

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to someone who's still officially part

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of the group has led many to think that

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Sunan might be leaving rise very very

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soon not only that but it has recently

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been announced that rise will be making

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a comeback on January 5th this would be

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happy news for fans if the original

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Korean article announcing the comeback

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wasn't edited to remove San's name from

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it and the line stating that rise is a

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seven member group was also cut out from

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there again this could be nothing as

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it's possible that they kept his name

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out of the article because he won't be

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participating in the promotions with the

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rest of the members for a while they

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might be excluding him temporarily and

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plan to bring him back later but knowing

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SM this comeback might be a way to test

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how the group does without sonan if this

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comeback is successful then SM will get

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the idea that the group will do well

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with or without him and won't see it

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necessary to bring him back it's also

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super suspicious that they're just

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completely erasing him out of previously

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filmed content and acting like he

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doesn't exist while it's normal for the

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members not to mention him or for him

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not to appear in content that was filmed

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after his Hiatus was announced it's a

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bit weird for him and his name not to be

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mentioned anywhere even more

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controversial Idols still got included

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in their group's content yet sonan who

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supposedly only on Hiatus is getting

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treated like he had never been a member

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SM has yet to announce what has happened

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to him but so far it isn't looking good

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we can only hope that his case gets

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resolved as soon as possible so Sunan

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can go back or at least get his name

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cleared share your thoughts in the

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comments and thank you for watching

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