Artificial Intelligence in Project Management Webinar Ricardo Vargas and Antonio Nieto-Rodrigues

Ricardo Vargas
3 Mar 202351:30

Summary

TLDRIn this insightful discussion, Antonio Nieto-Rodriguez and Ricardo Vargas explore how AI will disrupt traditional project management practices. They delve into areas where AI can significantly impact project selection, prioritization, planning, reporting, testing, and redefining the project manager's role. Through interactive polls and thought-provoking questions, they engage the audience in envisioning a future where AI augments human capabilities, emphasizing the need to embrace this technological shift. The session culminates with an exciting proposal for a masterclass that combines cutting-edge AI concepts with hands-on project management training, aiming to equip professionals with the skills to thrive in this transformative era.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ’ป AI and machine learning are expected to significantly disrupt and automate many aspects of project management, including selection/prioritization, planning, reporting, and testing.
  • ๐Ÿ“Š Polls conducted during the discussion indicated that most attendees believe 40-60% of current project management practices could be taken over by AI in the near future.
  • ๐Ÿค– AI can provide predictive insights, automated planning, virtual assistance, and advanced testing capabilities to streamline project workflows.
  • ๐Ÿง  While AI can handle many administrative and operational tasks, human project managers will still play a crucial role in strategic decision-making, stakeholder management, and leadership.
  • ๐Ÿ“ˆ Embracing AI is seen as an opportunity to offload tedious tasks and focus on higher-value activities, potentially improving project success rates.
  • ๐Ÿ’ก The presenters envision developing a comprehensive "masterclass" on leveraging AI in project management, partnering with business schools for accreditation.
  • ๐Ÿ“‚ Data quality and cleansing remain significant challenges for effective AI implementation, though newer AI techniques can help fill data gaps.
  • ๐Ÿ”„ AI's impact is expected to extend to agile methodologies, potentially automating portions of the development lifecycle.
  • โš ๏ธ Addressing AI bias and ethical considerations is crucial to ensure fair and unbiased decision-making processes.
  • ๐ŸŒ The discussion generated numerous thought-provoking questions from attendees, highlighting the need for further exploration and research in this rapidly evolving field.

Q & A

  • What are the main areas of project management that are expected to be disrupted by AI according to the speakers?

    -The speakers highlighted six main areas that they believe will be disrupted by AI: 1) Better selection and prioritization of projects, 2) Support for project management offices, 3) Improved and faster project planning and reporting, 4) Virtual project assistance, 5) Advanced testing systems and software, and 6) The role of project managers itself.

  • How can AI help in selecting and prioritizing projects?

    -AI systems can analyze a large amount of data and use algorithms to predict the success, resource utilization, and alignment with strategy for potential projects. This can help organizations choose the best mix of projects to pursue.

  • What is the potential impact of AI on the role of project management offices (PMOs)?

    -The speakers suggest that AI could automate many of the administrative and reporting tasks currently handled by PMOs, such as compliance monitoring and exception tracking. AI could potentially replace the need for traditional reports if it can provide real-time insights and answers to project stakeholders.

  • How can AI improve project planning and reporting processes?

    -AI systems could pre-populate project plans, tasks, risks, and resource requirements based on historical data and learnings. Additionally, AI-powered virtual assistants could aid project managers in planning and reporting by providing insights and recommendations.

  • What is the role of virtual project assistants mentioned by the speakers?

    -The speakers envision AI-powered virtual assistants that can act as advisors to project managers, providing insights and recommendations based on the project's data and the assistant's knowledge of project management best practices.

  • How can AI help in software testing and development?

    -The speakers highlight that AI can be used to automate software testing before release, potentially reducing the time and effort required for testing. Additionally, AI systems like ChatGPT can assist in generating code, enabling more user-friendly software development processes.

  • How do the speakers see the future role of project managers in an AI-driven environment?

    -The speakers believe that project managers should embrace AI as an ally rather than seeing it as a threat. They suggest that AI can handle many administrative tasks, allowing project managers to focus more on strategic thinking, stakeholder management, and leadership roles.

  • What challenges do the speakers mention regarding the adoption of AI in project management?

    -The speakers highlight the importance of having clean, high-quality data as a significant challenge in adopting AI for project management. They also mention the need for investment and dedicated projects to successfully implement AI solutions.

  • What potential initiative do the speakers mention regarding AI in project management?

    -The speakers express their ambition to develop a master class or training program focused on AI in project management. They aim to create a comprehensive and high-quality program in partnership with a business school, potentially involving Harvard Business Review as well.

  • How do the speakers view the impact of AI on agile project management approaches?

    -The speakers acknowledge that AI will likely impact agile approaches and DevOps processes, as these are closely tied to technology development. They suggest that while traditional agile practices may be automated by AI, the agile mindset and human aspects will still be relevant and may need to evolve.

Outlines

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๐Ÿ‘‹ Welcome and Introduction

Antonio welcomes the audience and introduces himself and Ricardo. He expresses his excitement to be partnering with Ricardo for this discussion on an HBR article they recently published. He acknowledges the challenges in project management, such as low success rates, and highlights the need to improve project delivery. Antonio then shares a poll on the percentage of current project management practices that could be disrupted by AI.

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๐ŸŒ The Current State of Project Management

Antonio discusses the appalling performance rates of projects, with most being delivered late or failing. He emphasizes the need to step up and ensure that only 20% of projects fail instead of 80%. He highlights the lack of maturity in project management technology compared to operational systems like ERPs. The goal is to double the success rate and have an immediate impact on financial, sustainability, and diversity outcomes.

10:01

๐Ÿค– AI Applications in Project Management

Ricardo introduces six aspects of project management that could be disrupted by AI: project selection and prioritization, support for the project management office (PMO), faster planning and reporting, virtual project assistance, advanced software testing, and the evolving role of project managers. He provides examples of how AI can be applied in each area, such as using neural networks for project selection and AI-powered recruitment platforms.

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๐Ÿ“Š AI for Project Planning and Reporting

Ricardo discusses the potential of AI in project planning and reporting. He questions the need for traditional reports if AI assistants like ChatGPT can provide real-time information by integrating external data and a company's proprietary data. He also shares an example of a chatbot called Pmoto that can automatically populate project plans based on user inputs.

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๐Ÿš€ AI for Software Testing and the Evolving Project Manager Role

Ricardo highlights the potential of AI in advanced software testing and the evolving role of project managers. He emphasizes that AI will not replace project managers but will serve as a strong ally, enabling them to focus on strategic thinking, leadership, and soft skills. The future project managers will be those who embrace AI and combine human skills with technology for better project delivery.

25:07

๐Ÿ—ณ๏ธ Audience Poll on Disruptive AI Applications

Ricardo conducts a poll to gather audience opinions on which areas of project management will be most disrupted by AI. The options include project selection and prioritization, PMO support, planning and reporting, virtual assistance, software testing, and others. The poll results show that improved planning and reporting, followed by virtual project assistance, are considered the most likely areas to be disrupted.

30:08

๐Ÿ’ป Data Challenges and AI Adoption

Antonio discusses the challenges of data cleansing and preparation, which can account for up to 80% of the effort in AI implementations. He mentions ongoing research on machine learning algorithms for project prioritization and shares examples of AI-powered project monitoring tools. Antonio also introduces the idea of developing a masterclass in project management, partnering with a business school, and involving experts from various domains.

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๐Ÿค” Addressing Concerns About AI and Project Management Careers

Antonio and Ricardo address audience concerns about the impact of AI on project management careers, particularly for young professionals. They emphasize that AI should be seen as an ally rather than an enemy, as it will enable project managers to focus on higher-value tasks and strategic thinking. They provide examples of how AI is already being integrated into agile methodologies and human performance management.

40:12

โ“ Q&A: AI Maturity, Data Quality, and Integration with Existing Frameworks

Antonio and Ricardo respond to audience questions related to evaluating the maturity of AI tools for project management, challenges in collecting clean data, and the integration of AI into existing project management frameworks like the PMBOKยฎ Guide. They acknowledge the lack of maturity models for AI in project management but highlight the potential for AI to complement existing practices and address data quality issues through unsupervised learning.

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๐Ÿ”ฎ The Future of AI in Project Management

Antonio and Ricardo share their vision for the future of AI in project management. They discuss the potential of AI to predict project success without relying solely on historical data, drawing inspiration from AI systems like AlphaGo that learn through trial and error. They also mention exploring unsupervised learning approaches for project planning and execution.

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๐Ÿ™ Closing Remarks and Call to Action

Antonio and Ricardo conclude the session by thanking the audience and encouraging them to subscribe to their respective newsletters and connect on LinkedIn. They provide a QR code and link to download the presentation slides and promise to record and publish answers to additional audience questions.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กArtificial Intelligence (AI)

Artificial Intelligence (AI) refers to the simulation of human intelligence processes by machines, particularly computer systems. In the context of the video, AI is presented as a disruptive technology that could potentially automate various aspects of project management processes, such as project selection, planning, and reporting. The video explores the potential impact of AI on project management practices, with examples like using AI for candidate screening and pre-populating project tasks.

๐Ÿ’กProject Management

Project management is the practice of initiating, planning, executing, controlling, and closing out work to achieve specific goals and meet success criteria. The video discusses how AI could revolutionize various aspects of project management, such as project selection and prioritization, supporting project management offices (PMOs), improving planning and reporting processes, providing virtual project assistance, and even potentially managing entire projects autonomously in the future.

๐Ÿ’กProject Selection and Prioritization

Project selection and prioritization refer to the process of evaluating and choosing which projects or initiatives to undertake based on their strategic alignment, potential benefits, and available resources. The video suggests that AI could be used to analyze large amounts of data and model scenarios to recommend the optimal mix of projects that align with an organization's strategy and have the highest likelihood of success.

๐Ÿ’กProject Management Office (PMO)

A Project Management Office (PMO) is a centralized unit or department within an organization that oversees and supports project management practices, methodologies, and standards. The video proposes that AI could support PMOs by automating reporting, compliance checks, and other administrative tasks, freeing project managers to focus on more strategic and value-adding activities.

๐Ÿ’กProject Planning and Reporting

Project planning involves defining the scope, activities, resources, and schedules required to complete a project successfully. Reporting involves communicating project status, progress, and issues to stakeholders. The video suggests that AI could be used to pre-populate project plans based on user inputs and historical data, as well as automate various reporting tasks, such as generating status updates and identifying potential risks or delays.

๐Ÿ’กVirtual Project Assistance

Virtual project assistance refers to the use of AI-powered virtual assistants or chatbots to support project managers in their day-to-day tasks. The video discusses the potential for AI-powered virtual assistants to provide real-time advice, answer project-related queries, and even assist with decision-making by analyzing project data and historical information.

๐Ÿ’กSoftware Testing

Software testing is the process of evaluating software applications or systems to identify defects, verify functionality, and ensure quality standards are met. The video highlights the potential for AI to revolutionize software testing by automating various testing processes, such as generating test cases, executing test scenarios, and identifying defects or issues more efficiently than manual testing methods.

๐Ÿ’กProject Manager's Role

The role of a project manager involves leading and coordinating project activities, managing resources, and ensuring successful project delivery. The video explores how the project manager's role might evolve with the integration of AI, shifting from administrative tasks to more strategic and value-adding activities, such as stakeholder management, decision-making, and leveraging AI capabilities to drive project success.

๐Ÿ’กData Cleansing

Data cleansing, or data cleaning, is the process of identifying and correcting or removing inaccurate, incomplete, or irrelevant data from a dataset. The video emphasizes the importance of data cleansing as a crucial step in leveraging AI for project management, as the quality and accuracy of the data used to train AI models significantly impact the reliability of their outputs and recommendations.

๐Ÿ’กAgile

Agile refers to a set of project management methodologies and practices that emphasize iterative development, flexibility, and continuous improvement. The video raises the question of how AI might impact agile approaches, such as Scrum, and whether AI could potentially automate certain agile processes or enhance agile practices in software development projects.

Highlights

AI can help with better selection and prioritization of projects by predicting success rates, resource utilization, and suggesting the optimal mix of projects to align with strategy.

AI can support the project management office by automating repetitive tasks like generating reports, tracking compliance, and triggering alerts based on predefined conditions.

AI can improve and accelerate project planning, definition, and reporting by pre-populating tasks, risks, resources, and other elements based on the project's objectives and data.

Virtual AI assistants can act as advisors, leveraging knowledge of the project and project management principles to guide project managers.

AI can enhance software testing by automatically generating and executing test cases, leading to faster and more thorough testing.

The role of project managers will evolve, focusing more on strategic thinking, stakeholder management, and leadership, while delegating repetitive tasks to AI.

Embracing AI as an ally and combining human skills with AI-powered technology can significantly improve project success rates and value delivery.

Data cleansing and preparation are crucial challenges, often taking up to 80% of the time when implementing AI solutions for project management.

AI can potentially impact agile approaches, such as automating DevOps tasks and supporting scrum work, allowing agile to evolve to a higher level.

There is a need for a maturity model or framework to evaluate the readiness and effectiveness of AI tools in supporting project management.

AI can overcome data gaps and biases through unsupervised learning, exploring innovative solutions beyond historical data patterns.

The speakers aim to create a masterclass or executive education program focused on AI in project management, partnering with a business school for accreditation.

Successful project delivery rates are alarmingly low, with 95% of projects being delivered late, highlighting the need for AI-driven improvements.

AI has the potential to automate up to 80% of a typical project manager's daily tasks, according to Gartner's predictions.

Adopting AI in project management requires strategic considerations, such as data availability, organizational readiness, and ethical implications.

Transcripts

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hello everyone hello Antonio how are you

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my friend hello Ricardo hello everyone

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yeah it's wonderful to to be with you

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and thank you everyone for joining us

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today I I need to say we we oh we just

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delayed a little bit the beginning

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because uh we we had an a really a big

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interest on on the workshop and due to

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the limitations of of the the platform

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and everything so we just decided

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something like 10 minutes ago to

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broadcast this so it's on LinkedIn on

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YouTube on Facebook and even on Twitch

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so in all these platforms you can watch

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uh this discussion uh live uh and we are

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very happy Antonio thank you very much

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for the partnership on on the article so

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what do we aim here uh is um to discuss

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a little bit more about the article we

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we recently published on hbr and and try

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to Envision a little bit more how the

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future will look like and please feel

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free to use the Q a uh to talk for some

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technical glitch here the chat is not

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available for the attendees we try to

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sort out but we were unable to do that

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so you can use your q a also to

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introduce yourself and just to to say at

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least we can see where you come from and

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we can use this uh to refer to all of

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you so I want now to

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start sharing uh our our slide deck and

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this slide deck will be available uh to

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all of you uh at the end I will share

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with you the QR code so you can you can

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uh take a look and download it okay so

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um the main reason for this is the

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article we recently published and and

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this article try to address

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um

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some of the trends that we see are are

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coming and are coming

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really fast and and are coming in

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I I don't want to say in a scary way but

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are coming uh to surprise us and to

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change a lot how do we see things and

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and this is exactly what we want will it

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be virtual assistants uh will it be the

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support of our project planning or AI

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will manage projects

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and these are questions that we really

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want to discuss uh with with you today

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and I just want to introduce I don't

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want to spend too much time you know I'm

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passionate about project management all

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my career is about project management

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from on different sectors I had the

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chance uh to be the director for

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infrastructure and project management at

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the United Nations I had a chance to

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write 16 books in the field I have a

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quite popular podcast for those who

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listen my voice for a lot of time and my

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main work is supporting organizations in

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capital projects uh and also I do some

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works you'll see later on Venture

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Capital mainly on this technology uh

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space so I want uh Now to turn into my

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dear friend Antonio so he can introduce

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himself and start the talk

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thank you Ricardo and thank you everyone

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for joining it's uh I I just love to be

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always with Ricardo and and we always

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have great conversations so we thought

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why not write in an article for hbr why

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don't we create something for the

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community so it's today it's a major

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step for I hope for our partnership

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Ricardo and I'm really glad to have so

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many friends on the call I see David

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Carr uh Garrett and and uh to have so

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many friends thank you for joining I

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think one thing that is important in

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this space especially in project

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management is a lot of co-creation some

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people can come with an idea but if we

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don't work all together towards making

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these changes happen it will never

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happen so I think Ricardo me we propose

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always new things and new ideas but it's

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the power of the community PMI and

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beyond that makes these things happening

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I think one thing I I just don't will go

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not into my career you I think many of

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you know but I think what I've noticed

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and Ricardo you know that too is that

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finally people at the top of

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organizations are recognizing the power

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of projects the importance of project

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management for dealing with this world

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driven by change the the project economy

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so it's just great to be in this space I

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think we have worked hard to get there

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many people who are in the corn many

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people who are not in the call but it's

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just great when you get calls from CEO

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and they tell you listen we have a

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problem here we have too many projects

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or we cannot deal with these

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Transformations we need help we need to

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build project management competencies

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agile competencies so I think I just

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wanted to acknowledge that and recognize

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that from from for the community who's

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here in this calling and and we're all

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working together so and today a topic

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which we're both very passionate which

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is the artificial intelligence of of

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course and and somehow I think Ricardo

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you mentioned that we it's not a topic

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that we really have addressed in the

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project management world I I was

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chairman of PMI in 2016. I I was very

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interested on on Bridging the Gap with

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strategy we launched brightline but

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artificial intelligence was never really

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discussed and I think it's just coming

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but very slowly not in other Industries

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like healthcare construction cars where

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AI is so present in project management

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we have not been very active talking

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about that and I think this is time to

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accelerate that and and make it uh

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something positive something where we

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can bring this change to the table we

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can say listen a machine can do part of

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our work we can do much more in other

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spaces so

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um if you go to the next slide Ricardo

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um this is something that we annoys me a

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lot as as somebody that speaks around

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the value of project management when you

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see the the really appalling uh

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performance rates of projects and again

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I think we all agree that it's hard to

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measure success there's no standard way

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to look at drug sales I always talk

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about the triple constraints benefits or

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success and then the benefit success so

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there's two types of successes but still

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any any

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research that we find through PMI

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brightline McKinsey uh Professor from

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Oxford recently with his big book big

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Ideas uh also the numbers are really bad

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it's like 95 percent of the projects are

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delivered on on delay so I think we need

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to step up this is another area with

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Ricardo and I talk a lot is how can we

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ensure that just 20 of the projects fail

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but not 80. so I think that's where it's

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a big issue for me in this profession

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that we need to find if we are credible

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now in the senior leaders face but we

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need to be more by delivering more value

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and faster so I think this is a bit

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setting the scene of AI is also AI can

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help to do that hey I can help us we

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should see as a as a mechanist for us to

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make better projects to deliver them

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better more successfully I think there's

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one more slide before we move yeah so I

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think if you look at I've been doing

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project management forever like most of

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you and it stress you look at the

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operational side of any business and you

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see erps and you see a lot of data

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warehousing and you see uh reporting on

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the spot and and I get very jealous why

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operations is so good and they have one

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source of Truth and and why in project

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management what is such a mess you can

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have excels power points on people PPM

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systems they did help a bit into that

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space But it is never really mature so I

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think the the maturity in technology in

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the space of project management is still

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very very low

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and the next slide so this is a bit set

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in the scene

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and my vision which I think Ricardo

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shares as well is that if we put

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ourselves a target of let's double let's

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let's make sure that uh if we improve

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our success rate by 25 this is immediate

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impact this is immediate benefit it's

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not that we need to invest more we just

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need to do them better and you have

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impact in in terms of financial but also

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in terms of impact sustainability

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diversity so I think this is something

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like we need to stick in our uh targets

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for the next two three years to do that

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and then well I think we can really be

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very very successful in this space

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and I think we have a small pool here so

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we wanted to make this as interactive as

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possible we'll share a few slides but

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then we'll have polls so you can see

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here the first one it should have pop up

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in your screen so what person touch of

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the current project management slash pmo

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practice would be disrupted by AI will

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be kind of taken over uh will be done

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in the next years twenty percent forty

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percent sixty percent eighty percent

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hundred percent

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100 would be nice right we don't need to

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do I always talk about self-driving cars

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but self-driving projects

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why not

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then we

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Antonio I'm just waiting here we have

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already uh hundreds of answers but it's

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moving very fast so if you wait 10 more

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seconds uh before I close the pool okay

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I closed yeah I can see the results you

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cannot yet but not yeah but it's fun you

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you'll see it's fun it's fun

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okay I'm I'm closing okay I'm closing

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the pool now it's closed okay and now I

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will share the results

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ball to you Antonio

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okay I think I'm glad to see that I

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think there's uh

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the interesting there's people who think

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about 20 only and a few seven percent 23

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and we have already 400 people in the

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court uh 100 I'm curious to hear that

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but the majorities in between

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um so 60 which is quite a lot imagine

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half of our week will be done and

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automated through machine learning

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artificial intelling that's a lot one of

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the biggest reference and I'm closing

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down here just my last slide before

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moving to Ricardo is Gardner so Gardner

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was the first one that brought this into

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the scene I know PMI has been looking

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into that as well and this is already

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three years old but Garner said at that

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time eighty percent eighty percent of

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your day eighty percent of four day four

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days of five uh could be done by machine

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so that's scary that is saying okay what

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I'm going to do I can keep myself busy

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for a day but what I'm going to be doing

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so nothing that's what make a lot of

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noise this this announcement by Garner I

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I think there is some true in this

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number because we do still a lot of

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manual work administrative work

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controlling work that machine learning

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can easily do but I think we need to see

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this as an opportunity imagine you get

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rid of all this boring work and you have

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just a nice part the stakeholder

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management so the next section and

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passing back to Ricardo is based on the

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article where are the areas that we've

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seen this is not just prediction we have

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seen changes happening and and there's

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some more or less but back to you

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Ricardo okay thank you thank you Antonio

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uh and it's it's interesting I just went

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before we have people from everywhere

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you you cannot see but from California

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to Bangladesh from Brazil Canada

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everywhere so thank you very much for

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joining us uh we already have series of

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questions here that we are planning to

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address but what I want is to try to

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share with you six aspects of the the

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project man management that we truly

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believe will be disrupted uh and and the

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upper coming area uh years uh so let me

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go through each of them from better

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selection and prioritization of projects

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to the support of the project management

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office to speed up on the planning

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process project definitions virtual

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project assistance advancing testing

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systems and and finally and probably the

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most disruptive one it's uh how will be

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our role as a project managers uh in in

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this environment so the first one it's

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the use of artificial intelligence to

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help you to select and prioritize so

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imagine one thing uh

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if we want to understand what AI is

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about AI is just a process that take a

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huge amount of data and through some

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algorithms try to make sense and try to

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create patterns that could indicate to

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us a trend or or an approach so what

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happens you can put your candidate

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projects in an AI system and

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they can predict

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success

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in terms of

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but fulfillment

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in terms of

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results in terms of resource utilization

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and give you back

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that suggested mix or of projects to

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help in your strategy so you can use

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tools combining like ahp

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modeling simulation big data in all of

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these to help you to do this I have a

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lift I want just to tell you one thing

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in 2015 I published an article about the

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use of neural networks on the project

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selection and prioritization this was

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eight years ago these was published at

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the PMI Congress and at that time I used

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X L and I use a tool called Palisade at

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risk to help me to simulate what would

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be the best set of portfolio of of

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projects and we use neural networks and

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neural networks is a subset of what AI

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accounts and what is the difference

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between 2015 and now that because today

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it's widely available today you have

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much more chance to get the information

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you need and to use this analytical uh

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aspect coming from this AI tools that

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will help you to select much faster and

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in a much reliable way

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ah

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one example I want to to say I published

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yesterday my newsletter and and one of

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the aspects of the newsletter was this

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case Highview and Highview is a platform

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it's an existent and leading platform

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for Recruitment and do you know what

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surprised me iview is all artificial

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intelligence based it means

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all these screaming of candidates

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even the

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interview by a human being on the other

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side it's not someone interviewing you

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it's a machine that interviews you and

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and look what is incredible this machine

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could perceive if you are a good fit or

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a bad fit

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however on the top of that comes a

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massive challenge because I always say

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this

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uh AI has as much bias as any human

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being that is feeding AI with

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information

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so Highview had to stop uh I think one

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year one year and a half ago the facial

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analysis of candidates because they

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discover that it had it had bias the way

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you smile the way you position the way

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you shake your hands could be

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uh good or not so good and and this is

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full of bias against uh different

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candidates and this is a true case you

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can see this on a Wired Magazine and

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this so this is a use of selecting

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candidates for example uh in the project

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environment

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the second one this is obvious support

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project management office one thing that

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I always tell people is that I don't

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believe at all that is our role as a pmo

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or as a project managers to Just Produce

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paperwork you know from templates

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to a report and everything so AI can

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support that I have a very big question

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that I want to ask you because I don't

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have the answer is that

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will we need reports in the future

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do we need that because why do we do a

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report we do a report because we expect

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that people will read and make decisions

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but if imagine if I have an oracle uh

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let's let's suppose like chat GPT that

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everybody and you as a boss you can just

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go and chat and say

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is this project on budget and chat GPT

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will not only look externally but will

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look all your poor and this is exactly

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where the big business on AI is for

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software companies Microsoft just

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released it that the connection between

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chat GPT and Bing is not just a

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coincidence or market share because what

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will happen is that you will have

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artificial intelligence servers in your

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company doing and connecting external

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information with your own proprietary

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information to use as competitive

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advantage and all these support on

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compliance and everything will be done

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by the project management office and the

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project management office can set

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triggers that will create a red light or

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a trigger or an exception if something

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happens or if there is a trend that

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something will happen based on AI

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the next one is improve at faster pros

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and definition planning and Reporting

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it's a pre-populated project for example

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you give ideas to Ai and AI will

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pre-populate the tasks you should do the

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relationships you may uh use the risks

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you may face the type of resources it's

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I I just want to do an analogy imagine

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you with your Trello board and your

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parallel board is auto populate or you

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with your Microsoft processing your

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Microsoft Project is completely out of

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populated with that and I had this

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experience because I was one of the

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founders and and of the Venture pmoto

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and pmoto was created and supported by

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Microsoft and it's a chatbot that does

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exactly that using AI you have a chatbot

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like chat GPT and you say I need a

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project and then you start talking and

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then uh appear more ask you why is this

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project about when do you want to start

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which kind of objectives do you want

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what is this and then pmoto populate the

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project for you with all information and

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check some of your assumptions so this

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is just one example of how you can do

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this and use this connecting this third

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topic with the fourth as like an

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assistant at someone imagine you having

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someone in your back with the full

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knowledge of your project and full

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knowledge of project management helping

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you being an advisor and an assistant to

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you so this is an example and the

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example of the pmoto is machine learning

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enable doing this all the time and it

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learns with time so if you fix and

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correct the next time the same mistake

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will not happen again and so it's a

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learning uh algorithm that will learn

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over and over so when you if you use it

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more it will get better and better

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number five Advanced testing system and

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software and this is one of the areas

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I'm talking more for those working in

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project management in the I.T sector

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this will be a big big big thing because

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you will be able able to use AI to test

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your system to test your software before

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you release it and and this is one of

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the key areas just for you to have an

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idea chat GPT that is now mainstream is

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one of the best software developers you

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may find because if you write a a a a

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send an ID an app for a python code

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there is a good chance that you will

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receive a decent code I'm not saying a

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perfect but the decent code for you to

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use so all of these it it will reduce

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dramatically and it will improve

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dramatically too at the concept of what

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we are talking inside PMI of the citizen

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developer process it's where I would say

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it the development of technology and

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software will become a far more user

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friendly and people will be able to

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build software to build Solutions like

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piling up Lego bricks and this is I I I

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would say one of the biggest Trends and

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one of the trends with the biggest

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impact

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and last but not least it's a new role

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for us and I I will I'm talking here on

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behalf of Antonio and myself because you

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know we are on on this field for uh

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quite a long time and and you know I

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remember in when I did my PMP in 1999 it

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was about the budget time and this you

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know I you don't care too much about

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what was the outcome of the project and

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this

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completely uh today uh on on the

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position of the project manager so what

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what it's it's the key

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the project managers they need to

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embrace this change and I know I know

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sometimes it's scary because it it is

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when I use chat GPT for the first time I

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said what is that but but it's a

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different we need now to understand that

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there is still a lot of things that

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machines are not able to do uh many of

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the soft skills leadership but some of

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the Strategic thinking some of the

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feelings this is

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all about project manager project

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manager is not about preparing report

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and sending complaints up and down and

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being the message it's far more than

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that and and the project manager if you

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are listening to what I'm saying the

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project manager that will make

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disruptive difference in the future are

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those who use this technology as strong

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allies

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to move forward

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and so combining this soft human

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approach human skills with a very solid

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technology supporting and this will make

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a massive difference for all of us this

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is why for example Antonio and I we we

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use a lot of time writing this because

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we need to plant this seed on every

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single brain of every single project

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manager to think that AI is here to stay

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and we need to embrace that in order to

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really move our profession to the next

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level uh and I have a second question uh

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among these items like what do you think

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are the ones uh you you believe that

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will be mostly disrupted so I will put

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the second pool here and I wanted to see

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uh what what do you think of that okay

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what do you think of that so let me go

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so on the second so I would love that

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you share with us your perceptions on

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that uh very quickly so

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um do we see that it will be for better

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selection and prioritization uh do you

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believe that it will be support on the

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project management office or it's

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improved planning capability or if it's

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virtual or a software testing or or even

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other things so I want just to listen to

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you so

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just quickly and and it's very important

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that you share this uh Antonio one thing

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that I just just a technical thing we

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need just to read the answers because

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for those on LinkedIn and YouTube they

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cannot see the results of the pool so

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just just for for you to to do so I will

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read the results so I will give more

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10 seconds and and look it's not it's

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not an easy answer okay uh

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but if you had to guess one what would

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be okay

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so let me okay so I will end now okay I

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will and now

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oh there's still people voting voting

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voting I'm I'm planning to handle and

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then a lot of votes come popping up so

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let me okay now I will end the pool okay

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and I'll share so the results better

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selection and prioritization 14 support

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project management office 14

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improve at faster approach and

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definition planning and Reporting 34 and

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the winner virtual project assistance 19

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Advanced testing system and software 17

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and ordered two percent so uh the

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leading is improving I think I I need to

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agree with you on my perception it's uh

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this will be I would say materialize it

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very fast I feel that this will happen

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very fast for for most of the companies

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and when I say very fast it's we should

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expect this year but to have a lot of

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Solutions on helping these project

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definition planning and reporting that

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one thing that was a little bit of

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surprise for me is the advanced testing

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and system I was expecting a higher

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number but 70 percent is still a lot of

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people so look uh it would be great when

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we do this again Antonio in two years

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from now and then we just check the

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reality of of what happened okay uh

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Antonio back to you on data and people

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uh to make a future a reality thank you

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Ricardo and I just wanted briefly to

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touch upon a couple of points that

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Ricardo mentioned

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um I I done quite some research on all

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these domains and and seen uh some

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startups working on that I'm actually uh

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developing a machine learning with a

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professor in Canada uh Paul uh who is

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one of the leading uh

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experts in AI in in in this and we're

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working on a prioritization selection

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application it has 90 criteria so I'm

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gathering data for 50 projects and so I

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hope that

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um

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also I'll come back to that so that is

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ongoing and I hope in a couple of weeks

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we'll be able to test it I've seen a

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software that you can press a button and

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has a thousands of WBS and can create a

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a good plan in five minutes instead of

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to 20 weeks because of all the big data

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and data and knowledge they've gathered

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I've seen another software that is used

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by president macron in France

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for watching all the all the projects

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public spending projects in front

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there's thousands and he can see in a

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second which projects are late or not

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um

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so on the risk side as well so my my

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thinking and we still need to discuss

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that Ricardo but we could have another

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session like this one and deep dive in

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and bring in this Technologies to you so

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that we can also learn from that so

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that's a an ongoing learning process

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it's not just one one of AI session for

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me just to finish when they asked me how

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do you see technology in project

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management over the years in the future

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I always refer to uh Maps when you're

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driving in a car with the maps you know

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we had three big faces one was the paper

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maps the mission lamp maps that were

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huge and it was fun to write but it was

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not very efficient then we had the GPS

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which is yeah much easier and still you

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can play a role but if you don't want

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then you just go and then you have and

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you start seeing the self-driving cars

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so if you project that and you reflect

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on projects uh my view is that in

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projects we're still with the maps right

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and it's not very efficient we don't

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have yet the GPS and we're far off of

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the self-driving projects but we should

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be thinking like that could be the god

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self-driving projects and what do we do

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there to add value which I think there's

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a lot so I'm not just saying we don't

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need this phone I think we need it and

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more than before but I think maybe that

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technology here we're still very early

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we're still with the paper maps and here

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just briefly on the data is one the

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biggest challenges Ricardo if you can go

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to the next like

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so you do need data and and if you want

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to go serious on this the research we've

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made is around 80 percent of the time at

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least in the first phase it's about data

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cleansing data preparation I've I've

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done that for 50 big projects uh that

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I'm doing for this machine learning

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prioritization algorithms and it's it's

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painful it's not easy for getting data

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of 90 criterias from cine Opera House

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Empire State Building and uh but I think

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in the end once you have that phase what

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I've seen is that machine learning also

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learns to fill in the gaps so you don't

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need to have everything for everything

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now these algorithms are super smart and

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they will predict data they will create

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data based on a good foundation so I

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think that makes our our job easier and

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the next slide I think it just talks a

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bit about

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questions that we put in the paper of a

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hardware Business Review

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um about what you need to consider do

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you want to embrace AI seriously I think

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you can read this in the slides but it

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is an investment it's a project I think

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we are convinced that this is uh in in

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the midterm something that we will see

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everywhere but at the moment it's just

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Pioneer companies that are investing in

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this I'm not going to go through all

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this you can read the slides you can

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read the paper next slide please and

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Ricardo

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um

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next slide

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yeah and just to finish before q a so

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one of the ideas that Ricardo and I have

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is that we've done a lot we've done a

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lot of trainings we've trained for big

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corporates we've done a lot of business

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school teaching Executive Education

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um so brainstorming and and for me it's

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always a passion you know Ricardo shares

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the same passion of sharing and building

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better project managers and making

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everyone more confident and more

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equipped and and I think there is always

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the the level of the the training is not

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always the the highest and Ricardo and I

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thought that we could develop a master

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class like the best masterclass in

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project management

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um ever bringing or thinking but not

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only or thinking but some of our

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contacts that we know in this space and

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outside this space to kind of like a day

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or two half days we still don't know the

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format but I think uh and partner with a

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business school so that we get an

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accreditation so that you may can claim

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that to your business and organization

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but it's just a very big ambition that

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we have and and making this the best of

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the best training uh Master Class maybe

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we can involve Harvard Business Review

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so I don't know we just want to create

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something unique uh talking about this

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and that leads to also creating a

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community of high level experienced

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people so

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um it's something that is in our minds

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and we wanted to guess uh there's a

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small part here to get a bit of feedback

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whether this would make sense uh to any

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of you and we'll come back with more

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details but we don't want to wait too

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much time we want to do it this summer

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and have the first four but I think it's

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part of the sharing that we need to

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leave behind Ricardo myself and and it's

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just something that I'm very very

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excited

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yeah we we what we we want I will just

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stop sharing uh um what I want I will

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look this idea came after the the some

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ideas and some discussions between

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Antonio myself and we would love just

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wondering to hear from you what is your

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take so we we are asking three questions

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here about is this something interesting

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or not at all uh about the duration

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about the investment just to have a

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feeling we don't have yet an answer for

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that so this is why we would love to to

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hear from you because you have this

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interest so what do you think about that

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the answers are Anonymous so if you can

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just help us to figure out uh uh these

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uh this uh these aspects uh if this

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should be something of one day half a

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day two days or or if you want something

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different or

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um it's something that you you don't

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have interest it's just for us to to

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feel and and then we will go look

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Antonio just for your awareness we have

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60 exact questions okay to be answered

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so we will have to be a very fast trying

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to to answer them uh to answer them and

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if you uh have questions in the audience

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please just uh just uh uh type your

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answer we'll try to answer all of them

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okay I I don't know but we'll do

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too quickly sorry what I do usually when

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there's too many questions is what we do

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is we'll re we'll make a video you and

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me answering the questions yes

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we can do that we can do that and what I

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want is just uh uh uh to uh to respect

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your uh some of the the questions we

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received so just some of them are are

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super interesting so we can we can

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discuss them uh uh here on this q a

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before we we come to an end so look I

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will just finish uh the the the pool so

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thank you very much for your

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contribution on on on that uh now

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Antonio time for questions so okay put

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here so the the first one uh from najib

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uh is using AI in project management

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implies delegating machines all the work

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that is related to the way of working uh

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in the PMI competence triangle so are we

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giving up uh to machines uh the control

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of that

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so you can take that or okay no I don't

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think so you you give a great question I

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just went through like a 20 and they're

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amazing and I see Alfonso butter oh no

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it's nice yeah it's just really great

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question I don't think so it's like

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you're driving a car do you give the

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control to the car well there's some

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parts the engine you're not going to be

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running the engine but at the end you're

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still accountable you're still

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responsible you're still the one that is

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going to make the the most important

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decisions but you're not the one running

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the machine so partly yes we're going to

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give some of this heavy duty tasks to AI

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but not the accountability not the

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direction not the decisions so we still

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play a major role uh

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so great question I think yeah and AI is

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improving Antonio but it's not perfect

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at all I use GPT to do uh uh uh to do

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um uh for me um a critical path analysis

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and it did wrong

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and it was a simple one so you need uh

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to have Supreme maybe in the future of

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things will will improve but I agree

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completely with you at the end uh you

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are accountable for that okay you use

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the machine to accelerate your your your

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thoughts uh Alfonso uh wonderful to see

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you I I see so many friends here most of

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the young project managers they believe

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AI will constrain their project

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management career uh and he said I

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explain it that is not true at all but I

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would love to hear your opinion I can

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take this one off phone so I look

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look if you are young and you were

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afraid of AI you have a big problem

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because if you are at the end of your

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career and you are afraid of AI I would

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say oh okay I can unders but if you were

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at the beginning oh my God because we

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don't know what will happen in 20 years

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so I truly uh believe that uh AI is is a

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game changer I I love Richard davanni uh

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a book about the new Industrial

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Revolution because this is the same

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thing that when I would say people in

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the factories before the Industrial

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Revolution thought that oh I will lose

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my job no

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it's just changing it's just changing

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it's just change and it's already

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changing for example as I said 20 years

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ago project managers were expected to

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deliver on time on budget you know if if

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the product is irrelevant or useless

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it's not your problem you receive from

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my sponsor a request and you just

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delivered that these used to be what uh

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the role of the project manager and look

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now so I think AI is a key Ally for

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example I use you know Antonio the same

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gave some examples so don't be because

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if you see AI as your enemy then you

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have two problems you have your problem

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with perception of AI and AI itself so

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don't do that okay it's not smart

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uh look um

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do you oh Dave Garrett Dave Garrett do

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you think AI will have an impact on

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agile approach the human parts of scrum

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and Beyond if so wipe might it be

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I love that David and thank you they for

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being here

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um

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and for what you're doing with PMI I I

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think that's a great question because we

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always seen agile AI coming into the

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traditional predictive project

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management it's also going to be agile

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and all these devops and and I think the

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initial phase so I think yes absolutely

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there's going to be impact in agile and

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it's something that we've not covered

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very much so I think that it's something

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that we need to to go a bit deeper but

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definitely I think there is a big

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opportunity for doing a lot of the scrum

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work and all the in the end agile is

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very much related to Tech development

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right so

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um I'm sure there will be a very soon

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that can do all these devops part

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without any human intervention uh so the

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agile maybe move somewhere a bit further

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down the line and I think we started

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embracing agent in other parts of

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project management and bigger projects

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while the traditional agile gets done by

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machine so I love the question Dave I

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think we need to explore

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yeah I want to add Dave a true example

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of that okay on on this um I am on the

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board advisor of Vienna it's an Estonian

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um Venture um that connects AI with

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human performance and mainly for agile

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works so what what do we do we set up

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micro rewards based on AI and Technology

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are based on Trello boards based on jira

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based on kanban boards and the speed you

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move the tasks and everything like micro

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rewards and it's not the end of the

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project bonus but a micro rewards just

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based on AI so for example you have a

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this week to accomplish these and this

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and then based on the way you move on

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Trello on jira you can meet the targets

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or not and then you can have benefits

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and the benefit if it could be something

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like a ticket to the to the movie

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theater you know a donation uh to the

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victims of uh the war or whatever so

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these kind of micro and this is all AI

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based because the AI takes a look on the

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whole stream of the Sprint and create

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incentives to make sure that you deliver

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your Sprint on time this is just a a

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real example of happening today and this

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is just one I I can give you another 300

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different examples of that okay uh so

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look

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um uh Federico from Rome uh any in near

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initiative to evaluate actual or near

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future maturity of AI tools uh

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supporting pm

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Federico good to see you I'm just going

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through the questions and they're

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amazing this is really the source for

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another article more work because they

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are not just

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um they're not superficial questions the

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questions that you are all put in here

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are deep questions I think that that's

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great and Federico to your question I

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think I've not seen there's maturity in

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I.T the CMM model that we all saw 20

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years ago so but I've not seen it

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applied yet to Ai and not along for

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project management so to be honest I

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don't I've not seen anything and I think

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there's a sense for that maybe on the

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maturity of your data it could be a

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starting point but it's a great point to

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further analyze further work on the

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maturity of AI and project management

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definitely an area to explore and thank

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you Federico for the great question I'm

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just impressed Ricardo yeah yeah it's so

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many now we have more than a hundred

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okay

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yeah let's take two more and then we are

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done okay Marshall uh talking about AI

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implemented at the pmo guide look I I

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don't work for PMI of course I know the

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pmbok very well but remember uh you said

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Marcio that it would be a new specific

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area of knowledge and I just want to

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remember that pmx7 there is no knowledge

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area anymore and the PM box 7 already

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considered many of these aspects of

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Technology already on it so if you ask

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me it's not

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AI uh uh everything AI but there is a

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lot of things on the current PM box that

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are already covering Ai and I don't

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believe that you need a new PM box just

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for AI because then we need another PM

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box just for Conflict Management another

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PM box so I think AI goes on on the top

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of that okay and and now maybe uh uh

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maybe for uh for you here let me uh

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Chris

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um AI can only predict success if they

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are given the right data but the data is

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so historic and does not reflect the

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future and narrow networks are as biased

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as we are we don't yet have the right

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data being collected so that is the same

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challenge we face without AI how do you

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see the collection of clean data

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improving when will this happen great

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question Chris Antonio

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okay Chris from Bahrain it's always good

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to see you and I know you've been

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working on this I think I think that

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what you're stating there wasn't my

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belief all the time about the importance

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of data data and cleansing what I've

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seen and this is confirmed by the

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professor Paul from uh from Canada is

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that the new versions of AI are much

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smarter in terms of data so some of the

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gaps that we had can be can be overcome

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with the recreation of data and and it's

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not this solution it's not going to

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solve it I don't see AI taking our

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decision which is still very flawed

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anyway today if you see the the poll the

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the poor success rate that we have in

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projects I see it as a compliment this

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is another opinion so it's now never

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going to be perfect but it's a voice

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that we need to listen because this is

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data we always talk about Knowledge

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Management we talk about Lessons Learned

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in project management they're not used

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today they're not used so I think AI can

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help with that and and make us better

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decision makers but indeed there's still

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a gap in like Ricardo said AI is not

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perfect and will not be perfect in the

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next years but we don't need to

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disregard it just for that

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thank you yeah absolutely let me just

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add before we we close

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um look at Chris I agree with you but I

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want just to to raise one point with you

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have you thought about AI trying to plan

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and predict projects with no historical

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information

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unsupervised learning

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because I saw people already trying to

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study this it's trying to break

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everything for example you built a a for

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example a building

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uh and you use historical information

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but have you tried to use Ai and say

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look AI please try an error uh

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interactive to find the best way of

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building a building sometimes it comes

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with absolutely surprising and this for

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example I I started looking this when I

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saw the AI uh

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no um Alpha go from deepmind where the

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the player of goal is started that the

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machine started playing completely

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different from the way a player plays

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because it it was never a play before so

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it didn't learn something like you learn

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basic moves no for stride and error so

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these Chris could be an absolutely

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disruptive future for many many projects

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okay and chat GPT is is one of the

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things using this to generate code for

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you look we we don't have much time I I

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just want to share our final slides so

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uh it's one Antonio one mind and the

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other one with the the QR code so uh

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Antonio uh

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you can you know where to find us I

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think the LinkedIn newsletter is

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something that I I try to cover these

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new topics the the certification on

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Project practitioner you you'll get the

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slide so I don't want to bother with

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with my stuff you get their summary

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um and where to connect later on perfect

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and for me I just want to to tell you I

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just released it yesterday my new

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newsletter called Beyond hype and and

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this is a very personal project for me

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it's it's something that I share my

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questions my concerns and and if you

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want to subscribe both on on my website

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and also on LinkedIn okay and this is

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the final contact information for

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Antonio we we are very both very easy to

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reach okay we we are on LinkedIn and we

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are very open on the network and on that

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uh button here you see the QR code to

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download the presentation so you can

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download all these slides by using this

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QR code or if you want you can use the

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same link that you use to register for

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this webinar are r r v a r g dot a s

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slash a IPM I just redirected directly

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to the slide deck okay so you can

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download and you can revisit so Antonio

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my friend thank you very very much for

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the partnership you know it's always a

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pleasure working with you we will record

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uh some answers uh to uh to the

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questions uh you raised and we'll

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publish them Antonio thank you very much

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for your time okay and see you all in a

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future time okay thank you very much

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bye-bye everyone

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have a good weekend