Intro to Detective Fiction: Hard-Boiled Detectives

tirralirra
9 Mar 202116:45

Summary

TLDRThis video script delves into the world of hard-boiled detective fiction, characterized by tough, cynical protagonists often struggling with personal demons. It contrasts this noir style with the lighter, golden age detective stories, highlighting the dark, grim settings and morally ambiguous characters. The script explores tropes like the loner detective, the femme fatale, and the lack of a sidekick, using examples from classic radio shows and novels. It also touches on the social context that led to the genre's popularity during times of hardship.

Takeaways

  • 🕵️‍♂️ A hard-boiled detective is characterized by depression, smoking, alcoholism, shabby dress, and a rough demeanor.
  • 🗣️ These detectives often have strong accents and are frequently depicted with concussions that don't seem to affect them, reflecting a historical lack of awareness about the severity of such injuries.
  • 🌑 Noir style fiction, including hard-boiled detective stories, is typically dark and grim, contrasting with the brighter and more optimistic Golden Age fiction.
  • 📻 Hard-boiled detectives were especially popular on radio shows, with characters like Sam Spade, Philip Marlowe, and Richard Diamond being iconic figures of the genre.
  • 🏙️ The setting of hard-boiled detective fiction is usually a dingy city in the slums, far from the idyllic English countryside.
  • 💼 The detectives in these stories are often financially struggling, barely making ends meet, yet always able to afford alcohol and cigarettes.
  • 🔍 The genre emerged as a response to the social changes and hardships following the Great Depression and World War II, offering a more relatable form of escapism for the struggling populace.
  • 👤 Hard-boiled detective stories lack a 'Watson' character, often told in first or third person, leaving the detective's motivations and misery unexplained.
  • 🚫 Women in these stories are typically portrayed in three stereotypes: the damsel in distress, the femme fatale, or as mentally ill or addicted individuals, often sexualized and used for plot advancement.
  • 🔫 Characters in hard-boiled detective fiction are often trigger-happy with little morality, and the stories rarely end with a restoration of order or societal balance.
  • 🍸 The hard-boiled detective trope has persisted over time, influencing modern characters like Batman, and can be found in various forms of media, including comedic radio shows for a lighter take on the genre.

Q & A

  • What defines a hard-boiled detective in fiction?

    -A hard-boiled detective is typically depicted as depressed, smoking, possibly alcoholic, shabbily dressed, and slouching. They often operate in a grim and gritty world, dealing with rough situations and displaying a hardened demeanor.

  • How does hard-boiled detective fiction differ from Golden Age detective fiction?

    -Golden Age detective fiction is characterized by bright settings and good people, often restoring order to society. In contrast, hard-boiled detective fiction is dark and gritty, set in dingy cities, with detectives who are morally ambiguous and unable to restore order completely.

  • Who is considered the first hard-boiled detective?

    -Race Williams, a private investigator introduced by Carroll John Daly in 1922, is generally considered the first hard-boiled detective.

  • What role do women typically play in hard-boiled detective fiction?

    -Women in hard-boiled detective fiction usually fall into three categories: the damsel in distress, the femme fatale, and the drunken or mentally ill woman. These roles often portray women as either needing rescue, being manipulative and dangerous, or being used for their vulnerabilities.

  • Why did hard-boiled detective fiction become popular during and after the Great Depression?

    -During and after the Great Depression, people felt disconnected from the idealized world of Golden Age fiction. They resonated more with the gritty, realistic struggles of hard-boiled detectives, which reflected their own hardships and the pervasive criminal activity of the time.

  • What is a notable difference in storytelling between hard-boiled detective fiction and other detective genres?

    -Hard-boiled detective fiction often lacks a 'Watson' character. The story is usually told from the detective's perspective or a detached third-person view, without a companion to help explain the detective's actions or emotions.

  • How are hard-boiled detectives typically portrayed in terms of their personal lives and relationships?

    -Hard-boiled detectives are often portrayed as loners with troubled personal lives. They usually have strained or distrustful relationships with women and display few, if any, close personal connections.

  • What are some common characteristics of the settings in hard-boiled detective fiction?

    -The settings are usually dark and gritty, often urban environments filled with crime and corruption. The detective's world is bleak, and they operate in the seedy underbelly of society.

  • What impact did historical events like the Great Depression and World War II have on the themes of hard-boiled detective fiction?

    -These events contributed to the dark and cynical themes of hard-boiled detective fiction. The widespread poverty, crime, and disillusionment of the time influenced the genre's focus on gritty realism and moral ambiguity.

  • Can you give an example of a hard-boiled detective and a summary of a story they appear in?

    -Philip Marlowe, created by Raymond Chandler, is a classic hard-boiled detective. In 'The Big Sleep,' Marlowe investigates a blackmail case involving a young woman named Carmen, who is being harassed by a bookstore owner. The story features typical hard-boiled elements such as morally ambiguous characters, crime, and a gritty urban setting.

Outlines

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🕵️‍♂️ The Essence of Hard-Boiled Detectives

This paragraph introduces the concept of hard-boiled detectives in fiction, characterized by their depressive tendencies, substance abuse, shabby appearance, and rough demeanor. It contrasts these detectives with the bright and optimistic tone of golden age fiction, highlighting the dark and gritty nature of noir style. The paragraph also references 'Calvin and Hobbes' to illustrate the trope of the 'mopey detective' and mentions iconic hard-boiled characters from radio shows like Sam Spade, Philip Marlowe, and Richard Diamond. The setting for these detectives is typically a dingy city, and they are often depicted as barely making ends meet, indulging in drinking and smoking as their only luxuries.

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👤 The Loner and His Women

This section delves into the characteristics of hard-boiled detectives as loners and the role of women in their stories. It discusses the absence of a 'Watson' figure to provide insight into the detective's psyche. Women in these narratives are categorized into three types: the damsel in distress, the femme fatale, and the mentally ill or addicted individuals. The paragraph critiques the portrayal of women as either sexualized or hysterical, and it touches on the theme of the world being a dark and miserable place, as seen through the lens of hard-boiled detective fiction. The narrative often ends with the detective alone, unable to restore order to society due to the overwhelming presence of criminal activity.

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🌍 Societal Reflections in Detective Fiction

This paragraph examines the societal context that shaped hard-boiled detective fiction, including the impact of the Spanish flu and the great depression. It describes the detectives as strong individuals in a harsh world, where everyone is manipulative or abusive. The narrative often concludes with the detective's love interest being convicted or murdered, reflecting the genre's pessimistic outlook. The paragraph also mentions Raymond Chandler's Philip Marlowe as an embodiment of the hard-boiled detective trope and discusses the portrayal of women in 'The Big Sleep' as typical of the genre, emphasizing their attractiveness and hidden desires or secrets.

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📻 Radio Shows and the Evolution of Detective Fiction

The final paragraph discusses the evolution of detective fiction and its adaptation into radio shows. It contrasts the grim nature of hard-boiled detective stories with the comedic elements found in some radio dramas, such as 'Richard Diamond.' The paragraph suggests that while hard-boiled detective fiction has remained popular in some form, it has also diversified to include more light-hearted approaches. It provides a method to identify a hard-boiled detective by asking three questions related to the nature of the world, the resolution of the story, and the likability of the detective. The paragraph concludes with recommendations for further exploration of detective fiction through courses and podcasts.

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Keywords

💡Hard-boiled detective

A hard-boiled detective is a stock character in detective fiction, often depicted as cynical, tough, and world-weary. In the video, this concept is central to the theme, with the speaker describing these detectives as 'depressed,' 'smoking,' 'alcoholic,' and 'shabbily dressed.' They are portrayed as the 'scum of the earth amongst the scum of the earth,' reflecting the dark and gritty nature of the genre.

💡Noir

Noir is a genre of fiction characterized by a mood of pessimism, fatalism, and moral ambiguity. The video discusses noir in the context of hard-boiled detective fiction, emphasizing its dark tone and the contrast with the 'bright colors and good people' of the Golden Age fiction. Noir is associated with a style of storytelling that is 'dark but quite dark,' as mentioned in the script.

💡Race Williams

Race Williams is a fictional character created by Carroll John Daly, considered the first hard-boiled detective in literature. The video script mentions him as the 'first heartbelt detective,' highlighting his significance in the development of the hard-boiled detective archetype in the story published in 'The Black Mask pulp magazine' in 1922.

💡Golden Age fiction

Golden Age fiction refers to a period in detective novel history known for its elaborate, complex plots and 'bright colors and good people.' The video contrasts this with hard-boiled detective fiction, which is described as 'black, white probably with a lot of red, and absolutely miserable for everyone involved.' This contrast illustrates the shift in societal tastes post-Great Depression.

💡Femme fatale

A femme fatale is a term used to describe a mysterious and seductive woman who often leads men into dangerous and compromising situations. In the video, the femme fatale is one of the three categories of women in hard-boiled detective stories, characterized as 'sexual' and having 'loyalties unknown and or questionable,' contrasting with the 'virginal' damsel in distress.

💡Damsel in distress

The damsel in distress is a classic trope in literature where a woman is portrayed as helpless and in need of rescue, often by a male hero. The video mentions this character type as 'a beautiful young woman' who seeks out the detective's help for various reasons, such as the police not believing her or needing to maintain social status.

💡Philip Marlowe

Philip Marlowe is a fictional character created by Raymond Chandler, embodying the hard-boiled detective trope. The video describes Marlowe as 'an attractive, middle-aged man who smokes and drinks too much,' and discusses his role in 'The Big Sleep,' where he investigates a blackmail case, illustrating the typical hard-boiled narrative.

💡Misogynistic

The term misogynistic refers to negative attitudes or prejudice against women. The video script points out the portrayal of women in hard-boiled detective fiction as often 'drunk and or crazy,' which is an expansion of a 'misogynistic worldview.' This critique highlights the problematic representation of women in the genre.

💡Loner

A loner is someone who prefers to be alone or lives in solitude. In the context of the video, hard-boiled detectives are described as 'loners' who do not have a 'Watson' to assist them or share their experiences. This characteristic is exemplified by Sam Spade, who, after the death of his sidekick Archer, 'simply just removes the name from the door and moves on with his life.'

💡Radio shows

Radio shows are audio dramas or programs that were a popular form of entertainment in the early to mid-20th century. The video mentions that hard-boiled detective fiction is especially popular on radio shows, citing characters like Sam Spade, Philip Marlowe, and Richard Diamond, which 'many younger people are unfamiliar with' due to the genre's decline in popularity.

💡Trope

A trope is a recurring theme or motif in literature, film, etc., often used to convey a specific mood or message. The video discusses several tropes associated with hard-boiled detectives, such as their 'fowl-mouthed,' 'angry,' 'depressed' nature, and the common presence of a 'sexy assistant.' These tropes are used to characterize the genre and its narratives.

Highlights

Definition of a hard-boiled detective: a character who is typically depressed, smoking, with an alcohol problem, and dressed shabbily.

Hard-boiled detectives often have rough accents and suffer concussions without apparent long-term effects.

The hard-boiled detective genre is characterized by dark, noir-style storytelling, contrasting with the lighter tone of golden age fiction.

Calvin and Hobbes' 'Tracer Bullet' character is an example of the hard-boiled detective trope.

Hard-boiled detective fiction often lacks a 'Watson' character, leaving the detective's motivations and actions unexplained.

The genre's shift from golden age fiction reflects societal changes post-Great Depression and World War II.

Sam Spade, Philip Marlowe, and Richard Diamond are iconic hard-boiled detectives from radio shows.

Hard-boiled detectives are depicted as loners, with minimal personal connections and a focus on their work.

Women in hard-boiled detective stories are often portrayed as damsels in distress, femme fatales, or troubled individuals.

The portrayal of women in these stories can be problematic, reflecting misogynistic views of the time.

Hard-boiled detectives are unable to restore order to society due to the overwhelming presence of criminal activity.

The hard-boiled detective genre resonated with audiences during times of social and economic hardship.

Raymond Chandler's Philip Marlowe is a quintessential hard-boiled detective with a troubled personal life.

The Big Sleep novel by Chandler features complex female characters embodying typical hard-boiled detective fiction tropes.

Hard-boiled detective stories often end with the protagonist alone, reflecting the genre's dark and hopeless worldview.

The hard-boiled detective genre has persisted in modern adaptations, such as Batman, with a gothic twist.

Comedic hard-boiled detective shows like 'Richard Diamond' provide a lighter take on the genre.

A three-question test helps identify whether a detective character is hard-boiled, golden age, or classical era.

The speaker suggests using 'The Great Courses Plus' for a more in-depth study of detective fiction.

A podcast called 'Radio Detectives' offers old radio shows in podcast form for easy listening.

Transcripts

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hello

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today we're going to be talking about

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hard-boiled detectives

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in fiction now you might be wondering

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what is a hardball detective well if

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your detective

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is depressed smoking

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probably has an alcohol problem is

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rather shabbily dressed

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and slouches like a scumbag you got

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yourself a hardball detective

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usually they also have some rough

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accents and they get a concussion about

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twice a day

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which apparently never really affects

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them but that's because they didn't know

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that concussions were a bad thing back

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then

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so if you have any of these you probably

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have a very bad case of hardball

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detective

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so to save our livers and our lungs we

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will not be drinking and we will not be

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smoking here

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even if that would help us get into the

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mood think of the hard-boiled detectives

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as the scum of the earth amongst the

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scum of the earth

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much like any other noir style of

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fiction

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whether that be film or books

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it's meant to be dark not quite grim

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dark

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but quite dark if any of you have ever

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read calvin and hobbes

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you will know what i mean when i say the

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mopey detective who lives in the shadows

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who occasionally has a sexy assistant

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who walks in and

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offers him a cigarette or something

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because kelvin occasionally does pretend

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to be a 1940s detective

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and it is very tropey it is extremely

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tropey but he is foul-mouthed

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he is angry he is depressed and he is

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always smoking or always drinking not

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great for a six-year-old but

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i guess bill waterson wasn't six when he

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drew that so

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whatever point is that tracer bullet

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his alternate identity is the epitome

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of every single trope about hard-boiled

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detectives that you'll come across

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in essentially any form of the

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literature hardball detectives are

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especially popular

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on radio shows people such as sam spade

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philip marlow and richard diamond

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are characters that many younger people

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are unfamiliar with because the genre

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has essentially gone out of style

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but that if you've ever listened to any

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radio from that

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era you will definitely know those names

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to start harbor detective fiction is the

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exact opposite of golden age fiction

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when the golden age was full of bright

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colors and good people

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heartball detective fiction is black

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white probably with a lot of red

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and absolutely miserable for everyone

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involved

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the setting is never the english

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countryside and if it is it is really

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sketchy

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it is usually a very dingy

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city down in the slums where the

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detective has to get his arms and hands

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dirty and covered with grime whether

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that be literal or metaphorical

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the detective is often barely making

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enough to pay for his office space

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but he always has enough to drink and

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some cigarettes which are apparently the

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only thing he ever consumes

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can't imagine that that would be very

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helpful for your liver

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don't do that kids earlier in the

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century agave christie's work was

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extremely popular

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but after the great depression and

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during the second world war

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people seem to have grown to be

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completely disconnected

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from the golden age detective fiction

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they didn't see the point in glorifying

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something

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like that when they themselves were

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struggling so much they wanted to read

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about real people about

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themselves or perhaps

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some people wanted to read about a world

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that was so dark so miserable

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that their lives seemed optimistic by

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comparison

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the first heartbelt detective is

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generally considered to be a private

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investigator named race williams

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in 1922 carol john daly published a

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story about

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race williams in the black mask pulp

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magazine and it is generally considered

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to be the first example of

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this grim dark detective something that

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is very notable about this type of

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fiction

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is the sheer lack of watsons there is

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basically almost never

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a watson the story tends to be told

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either in first person or

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third person and there is no one

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to help us understand why the detective

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is so

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miserable why he drinks so much it is

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all filtered through the detective or

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through

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a third-person perspective who never

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really gets into it

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sam spade who is a very famous detective

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is one of those who starts off with a

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sidekick

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who's named archer but archer dies and

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sam spade never really shows any emotion

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about that

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he simply just removes the name from the

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door and moves on with his life he

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doesn't

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care while holmes would be devastated by

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the loss of his

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watson spade doesn't care he's a loner

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and

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he is always meant to be a loner

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sometimes in these stories women take

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the role of watsons

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such as sam spade's secretary who

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occasionally shows

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her more feminine side by being

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emotional or having emotional reactions

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where sam spade is just

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hard-boiled essentially rock hard like

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absolutely

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dead inside she occasionally

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says something that strikes sam as a

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good idea or occasionally

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just bemoans the state of humanity

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however

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she doesn't go on cases with him because

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sam spade

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is a loner she stays in the office and

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does her secretarial work and he goes

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out and does all the dangerous stuff

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women in these stories tend to fall into

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three categories obviously the damsel in

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distress being number one

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number two the femme fatale or number

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three the drunken mess

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and or crazy person which

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falls into a whole backwater

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of a history of women being portrayed as

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hysterical especially in western

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literature so take that with a grain of

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salt remember that this is where this is

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coming from

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women being drunk and or crazy is simply

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just an expansion of that sort of

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misogynistic world view

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the damsel in distress is always a

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beautiful young woman

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who seeks out the private investigator

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because the police won't believe her or

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because she needs things to be kept

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quiet because of her social status

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or for a variety of other reasons the

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femme fatale

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is also beautiful but she is sexual

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where

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the damsel in distress is virginal

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the sexy dark

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mysterious femme fatale is out

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to get you she often catches the eye of

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the detective but her loyalties are

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unknown and or

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questionable obviously the third

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category lumps together the mentally ill

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women like

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carmen and raymond chandler's the big

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sleep

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alongside those with other addictions

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usually to

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alcohol although occasionally it does

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venture into

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opioids and a lot of sleeping pills

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and eating disorders those women who

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again are either mentally ill

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or struggling with addictions are

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usually used in the story to

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show that they're corrupt that

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they are in such a poor state that the

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detective

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can bribe them into doing anything the

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detective often uses them to gather

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clues where they accidentally slip up

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and let something out when they

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shouldn't have or

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whether simply just having a psychotic

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break

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and yell out exposition

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that now the audience and the detective

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know and they use it to solve the case

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a problematic trope with this third

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category of women is that they're often

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sexualized

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so you have the stereotyped alcoholic

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woman who

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is also either she's very beautiful and

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very sexual or she is very ugly and very

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sexual

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it kind of doesn't have a gray space but

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there's also the type of woman who is

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mentally ill and is very

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very desperately in need of help but

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she's also sexualized

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so you have characters like carmen in

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chancellors the big sleep

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but she instead of getting help because

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again this is the 1940s

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she instead is portrayed as this

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beautiful

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naked creature who tries to seduce

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marlow and her body is

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used as something sexual even though to

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the reader it is quite clear that

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she needs medication almost everyone in

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these stories including the women are

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quite trigger-happy and they have they

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rarely have any

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morality to speak of there's

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occasionally the one

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pure creature who the detective tries to

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save but

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those pure creatures those

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unicorns are often sacrificed in order

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to make the point that the world

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is a very dark very miserable place as

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america kind of felt the

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full force of the great depression the

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story seemed to resonate with people

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more than golden age fiction

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the hard-working detective who fights

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his way to justice seemed

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more accessible to people especially in

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a time when criminal activity seemed to

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be

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everywhere and poverty was equally well

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spread

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these detectives had what they needed

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and that was it

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spade could afford a secretary marla

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could afford to dress like a private eye

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and

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that was about it there were no emerald

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type-ins from the queen

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no country estates and no end of

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criminal activity

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they would always have a job whether or

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not people would have money to pay for

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them was a completely different story

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unlike holmes and marple a hardball

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detective could not restore the order to

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society

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because there's simply too much criminal

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activity there is

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no end to the darkness there's no light

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at the end of the tunnel

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the whole point is that the world is

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miserable and there's nothing to be done

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about it

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except to try to make a buck out of it

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the social changes

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happening after the wars were very

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difficult to adapt to

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the spanish flu was an incredibly

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devastating

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influenza virus that killed many people

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and

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these sort of global situations were

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what surrounded the people who grew up

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during the golden age detective fiction

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but who ended up as

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writers for the hard-boiled detectives

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any hardball detective worth his salt

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is a strong man in a man's world he is a

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lone wolf

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women are almost always eaves they

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always lie they always manipulate

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and other men always abuse their power

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there's no escape from it

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everyone is abusive in one way or

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another

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if the detective finds a love interest

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she's almost always convicted of

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something by the end of the story

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or murdered at some point raymond

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chandler's

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philip marlow is a great example of this

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detective trope

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he fulfills essentially every single one

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and there's some very good movies so you

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don't have to read if you don't like

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reading

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let's talk about marlow he is a

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stereotypical

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hardball detective he is an attractive

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middle-aged man who smokes and drinks

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too much

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he doesn't have a secretary and

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generally views women with suspicion

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the 1939 novel the big sleep features

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marlo investigating a blackmail case

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a bookstore owner named arthur greiger

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is harassing a rich young woman named

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carmen

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threatening to release her nudes i won't

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spoil the ending

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of the story but i will say that the

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woman in the story are essentially the

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embodiment of a typical

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hardball detective fiction woman every

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woman in the story is

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remarkably attractive or has something

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they want and something they want to

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hide

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they either they have wealth and they

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want to hide their infidelity or they

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have a happy married life but they want

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wealth and they're hiding the fact that

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they're so

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desperately stealing stuff or whatever

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it is that they're doing it's always

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something

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no matter what marlow does in the story

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or

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who he meets or who he falls in love

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with he is going to end up

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alone and he does he ends up drinking

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alone at a bar

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which i'm pretty sure is marvel's one

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and only hobby marlow is the protagonist

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but his actions addictions and

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problems make him a morally great

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character

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he tends to be a bit more believable

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than the all-knowing

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good miss marple but at the same time

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they are so incredibly troubled that

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you sometimes wonder how they manage to

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get out of bed in the morning and why

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they don't just jump off the nearest

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cliff

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because again like i said this is a dark

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storyline there's never

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anything positive in their lives and

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when it is it is

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always taken away heartbroken detective

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fiction has never quite

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gone out of style batman is essentially

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sherlock holmes in

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the modern times with well at least

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right now

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a goth makeover but in the past with

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a fun sidekick and a few crazy

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antagonists

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and that's fine it changes and these

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things come in and out of fashion

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of course not everyone wanted to hear

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about grimdark detectives all the time

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and there are some great comedic shows

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from

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again that same era the radio show

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not the tv show the tv show is terrible

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the radio show of richard diamond

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is very very funny he is barely scraping

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by in the detective business

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but he always is making quips and has a

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lot of fun on cases and the

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radio dramas around diamond are

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a lot of fun he is far from a good

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character

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he is often flirting with other people

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even though he has a steady girlfriend

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named helen

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who is lovely by the way it's great to

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see

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one woman in these stories that isn't

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either crazy or

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evil but there are so many femme fatales

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that diamond either seduces or tries to

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seduce or get seduced by

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regardless that again you end up

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wondering why does helen stick with

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diamond

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of course if you want to go a bit more

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traditional there are also sam spade

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radio shows and

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even some remade sherlock holmes ones

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that tend to be a little bit darker than

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usual which is a bit

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difficult to get accustomed to however

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they have their merits and they're quite

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a lot of fun to listen to

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if you want to know whether or not your

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detective is a hard world detective you

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just have to ask yourself these three

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questions

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number one is the general population in

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this universe good

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is the world out to get the detective

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number two

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does the solution to the problem restore

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balance to the world

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number three is the detective an easily

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likable person

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if the answer is no to all three then

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you have yourself a traditional

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hard-boiled detective

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if the answer is yes then you most

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likely have a golden age detective

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if you answered 1 in 3 as yes then you

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have a sherlock holmes type detective

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from the classical era detective fiction

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can be a lot of fun

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and sometimes some people consider

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looking at it

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through this way as work or that we're

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taking the joy out of it

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but i personally find analyzing this

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sort of literature to be very very

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interesting you learn

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so much and although you might not

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necessarily agree with

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all of my generalizations that i've made

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in this series

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they are generalizations i don't get

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paid to make these videos i make them

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for fun so

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if you want a full lecture series i

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don't think i'm qualified a

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and b i need a lot more money than what

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i have right now so

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if you want to learn more about this i

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can highly recommend

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as the great courses plus which i'm not

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sponsored by they have a few

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series on detective fiction and they are

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essentially university level courses

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which i have taken my fair share of

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detective fiction university level

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courses

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i did major in english literature after

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all i mean

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look at me duh what else would i have

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majored in there is a podcast called

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radio detectives which is out of boise

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idaho it's wonderful

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the man takes all the radio shows from

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the oldie days and puts them in a

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podcast form so you can listen to them

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and

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his catalog is enormous i'll see if i

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can link it down below

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anyways i hope you like this video

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series leave a comment

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down below like subscribe i can't

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guarantee that i'll ever make more

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videos but you know

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not like i have much else going on so

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we'll see

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