"The Manga Was Better"
Summary
TLDRDieses Video-Skript diskutiert die Debatte zwischen Manga und Anime-Adaptionen, untersucht warum manchmal Manga als besser angesehen wird und was es bedeutet, eine gute Adaption zu sein. Es reflektiert über die Herausforderungen der Animation, die Stärken der Manga-Medien zu nutzen und wie eine erfolgreiche Adaption das Originalwerk zu einem noch beeindruckenderen Erlebnis aufbauen kann. Der Sprecher teilt auch seine persönlichen Erfahrungen und Ansichten zu verschiedenen Adaptionen und wie diese seine Entscheidung beeinflusst, ob er das Manga oder den Anime liest oder sieht.
Takeaways
- 📚 Das Skrippt behandelt das Thema der Anime- und Manga-Adaptionen und wie sie die Community beeinflussen.
- 🔍 Es wird diskutiert, was eine gute oder schlechte Adaptation ausmacht und ob die Manga immer besser ist als die Anime-Version.
- 🎭 Die Wichtigkeit von kreativen Anpassungen wird hervorgehoben, um die Stärken des Anime-Mediums zu nutzen, anstatt nur die des Manga zu kopieren.
- 🎨 Einige Anime-Adaptionen, wie 'The Boys', haben die Ursprungsmaterialien erfolgreich umgedreht und zu interessanteren Produkten gemacht.
- 🤔 Die Herausforderungen bei der Adaption von Manga zu Anime werden thematisiert, einschließlich der Bewältigung von Handlungsstränge und Charakterentwicklung.
- 🚀 Die Rolle von Filler-Episoden in langlaufenden Anime-Serie wird kritisiert, da sie die Handlung verlangsamen und die Handlungsintensität reduzieren können.
- 🎬 Die Bedeutung von visuellem Erzählen und Kameraarbeit in Anime wird betont, um die Stärken des Mediums auszunutzen.
- 🎼 Musik, Farbgebung und Synchronisation können einen Manga erweitern, aber sie reichen möglicherweise nicht aus, um eine Anime-Adaption als gut zu bezeichnen.
- 📈 Die Diskussion zeigt, dass eine genaue Treue zur Quelle nicht immer das Beste für eine erfolgreiche Anime-Adaption ist.
- 🌟 Wenn eine Anime-Adaption jedoch gut gemacht wird, kann sie das原作提升到 neue Höhen und eine magische Erfahrung bieten.
- 🎄 Der Schöpfer des Skripts teilt seine persönlichen Erfahrungen und Ansichten zum Ende des Videos mit und kündigt seine kommenden Pläne an.
Q & A
Was ist der Hauptthema des Skripts?
-Das Hauptthema des Skripts ist die Diskussion über Manga- und Anime-Adaptionen, insbesondere welche Faktoren dafür sorgen, dass eine Adaptation gut oder schlecht ist und wie sie die Originalquelle verbessern oder verschlechtern kann.
Welche Meinung vertritt der Sprecher über den Vergleich von Manga und Anime?
-Der Sprecher meint, dass die Phrase 'Manga ist besser' zu einem unvermeidlichen Teil der Community geworden ist, aber er hinterfragt, wie viel Gewicht diese Meinung tatsächlich hat.
Was ist der Meinung des Sprechers über 'Berserk' als Manga-Adaption?
-Der Sprecher sieht 'Berserk' als eines der größten Manga und erzählt, dass es mehrere Adaptationen hatte, die jeweils ihre eigenen Mängel hatten, und dass die erste Adaptation trotz eines abrupten Endes gut war.
Was sind die Herausforderungen, die Anime-Produktionen bei der Anpassung von Mangas haben?
-Anime-Produktionen haben die Herausforderung, die Zeit für die Darstellung von Charakterentwicklung und großen Momenten zu verwalten, ohne dabei die Charaktere oder die Geschwindigkeit zu opfern.
Was ist die Meinung des Sprechers über Filler-Episoden in Anime?
-Der Sprecher ist der Ansicht, dass Filler-Episoden, wenn sie in die regulären Episoden integriert werden, die Sichtbarkeit und das Erlebnis der Serie verschlechtern können.
Wie wichtig ist es, dass eine Anime-Adaption den Manga genau folgt?
-Der Sprecher argumentiert, dass es nicht immer das Beste ist, den Manga genau zu kopieren, und dass es wichtig ist, die Stärken des eigenen Mediums, des Anime, auszunutzen.
Was sind die Vor- und Nachteile der Anpassung von Manga zu Anime?
-Die Vorteile liegen in der Möglichkeit, die Geschichte auf einer anderen Ebene darzustellen, während die Nachteile darin bestehen können, dass die visuellen und narrativen Stärken des Mangas nicht immer in den Anime übertragen werden können.
Welche Rolle spielt die Musik und die Stimmgebung in Anime-Adaptionen?
-Musik und Stimmgebung sind wichtige Elemente, die das Erlebnis einer Anime-Adaption bereichern können, indem sie Emotionen und Atmosphäre hinzufügen.
Was ist der Unterschied zwischen Anime-Adaptionen von Manga und von Light Novels?
-Anime-Adaptionen von Manga neigen dazu, stärker auf visuelle Erzählungen zu achten, während Light Novel-Adaptionen oft längere Dialoge und innere Monologe enthalten, die in Anime weniger effektiv umgesetzt werden können.
Wie wichtig ist es für eine Anime-Adaption, die Stärken ihres eigenen Mediums auszunutzen?
-Es ist sehr wichtig, da eine erfolgreiche Adaptation die Stärken des Animes, wie Bewegung und Visuelleffekte, nutzen sollte, um die Geschichte auf eine Weise zu erzählen, die im Manga nicht möglich ist.
Was ist das Ziel einer guten Anime-Adaption?
-Das Ziel einer guten Anime-Adaption ist es, die Geschichte und die Atmosphäre des Mangas zu bewahren und gleichzeitig die Stärken des Animes als Medium auszunutzen, um das Werk zu einem noch beeindruckenderen Erlebnis zu machen.
Outlines
📚 Manga vs. Anime - Die Diskussion um Adaptationen
Dieses Kapitel behandelt die kontinuierliche Debatte über Manga- und Anime-Adaptationen. Der Sprecher reflektiert darüber, ob man ein Manga-Fan bleibt oder mit der Zeit in einen Kritiker mutiert, der die Anime-Adaptationen mit dem Original vergleicht. Er erwähnt die Herausforderungen, die mit der Beurteilung von guten und schlechten Adaptationen einhergehen, und wie oft der Manga als besser angesehen wird. Zudem wird auf die Rolle von Freunden eingegangen, die die Diskussion zuweilen zuspitzen, indem sie die Vorzüge des Mangas betonen. Der Abschnitt schließt mit einem Sponsoring für Bespoke Post, einem Abonnementdienst für exklusive Produkte, und einem persönlichen Lob für die Qualität der von ihnen erhaltenen Produkte.
🎭 Die Kunst der Anime-Adaptation und ihre Herausforderungen
In diesem Abschnitt wird die Komplexität der Anime-Adaptationen thematisiert. Der Sprecher diskutiert, wie wichtig es ist, die Kernelemente einer Geschichte und Charaktere beibehalten zu können, selbst wenn die visuelle Darstellung möglicherweise nicht den Erwartungen entspricht. Er erwähnt Beispiele für fehlgeschlagene Adaptationen, wie 'Berserk' und 'Sonic 2016', und betont die Bedeutung von Charakterentwicklung gegenüber actionreichen Szenen. Der Sprecher kritisiert auch die Praxis der 'Filler'-Episoden, die die Qualität der Langzeitserien wie 'Naruto' und 'One Piece' verringern, und argumentiert, dass Adaptationen die Stärken des Animes als Medium ausnutzen sollten, um die Geschichten erfolgreich zu vermitteln.
🎨 Die Bedeutung der kreativen Anpassung für Anime-Adaptationen
Der Sprecher erörtert, wie wichtig es ist, die Stärken des Animes als Medium in Adaptationen zu nutzen und nicht nur die des Mangas zu kopieren. Er betont, dass eine 1:1-Übertragung nicht immer die beste Option ist und dass es besser sein kann, die Gelegenheit zu nutzen, die Geschichten in eine neue Richtung zu lenken, um sie für das visuelle Medium zu optimieren. Er nennt Beispiele wie 'The Boys', 'Toradora!' und 'Devilman Crybaby', die die Ursprünge ihres Mangas übertreffen oder neu interpretieren, um erfolgreiche und interessantere Produkte zu schaffen. Der Sprecher argumentiert, dass es wichtig ist, die Seele der Originalarbeit zu erfassen oder sie in eine Form zu übersetzen, die für den Film am besten geeignet ist.
🎬 Die visuellen Fähigkeiten des Animes und seine Unerschöpflichkeit
In diesem letzten Kapitel präsentiert der Sprecher seine Ansichten darüber, wie Anime-Adaptationen die visuellen Fähigkeiten des Mediums ausnutzen können, um die Geschichten auf eine einzigartige Weise zu vermitteln. Er diskutiert die Unterschiede zwischen der visuellen und der narrativen Darstellung in Mangas und Animes und betont die Fähigkeit von Anime, komplexe Handlungsstränge und emotionale Momente zu vermitteln, die in Mangas möglicherweise nicht so wirkungsvoll dargestellt werden können. Er lobt 'Jujutsu Kaisen' und 'Naruto Shippuden' für ihre Meisterschaft in der visuellen Erzählung und hebt hervor, dass eine erfolgreiche Adaptation die Geschichte auf eine Weise erleben lassen kann, die der Manga allein nicht erreichen kann. Schließlich bedankt er sich bei seinen Patreon-Unterstützern und kündigt weitere Video-Veröffentlichungen für das kommende Jahr an.
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Keywords
💡Anime
💡Manga
💡Adaption
💡Berserk
💡Filler
💡Visual Storytelling
💡Cinematography
💡Action Scenes
💡Light Novel
💡Manga Better
Highlights
The debate over whether to watch anime or read manga, and the influence of friends' opinions on this choice.
The inescapability of the phrase 'the manga was better' in anime communities.
Sponsorship mention of Bespoke Post and its membership club for top-shelf goods.
Discussion on the criteria that make a good or bad adaptation and the subjective nature of preferring manga over anime.
The dilemma of anime adaptations focusing on climactic moments versus character development scenes.
The impact of filler episodes and how they can detract from the viewing experience.
The importance of capturing the soul of the original work in adaptations and translating it effectively to the anime medium.
Examples of successful adaptations like 'The Boys' and 'Devilman Crybaby' that rework source material for a new audience.
The challenge of adapting manga's strengths, such as detailed horror imagery, to the anime format.
The difference in approach between anime adaptations of manga versus light novels, with a focus on visual storytelling.
The potential for anime to excel in action scenes where manga might falter due to the limitations of the still page.
The argument that not all adaptations need to be 100% faithful to the source material to be successful.
The unique value of anime in capturing moments that might be lost in the manga format, such as in 'Naruto Shippuden'.
The transformative power of a well-executed anime adaptation to elevate the source material to new heights.
The inherent differences between the mediums of manga and anime and the need for adaptations to play to anime's strengths.
The appreciation for anime adaptations that capture the essence of the original manga, despite the challenges involved.
A call to continue supporting and watching anime for the potential of magical experiences offered by successful adaptations.
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you either die an anime fan or you live
long enough to see yourself become a
margarita Sun Tzu God of War Ragnarok
maybe you've only started watching anime
maybe even watching it for years maybe
you don't even watch anime anymore but
you still watch these videos what the
hell are you still doing here eventually
we all reached that point where there
you are watching the anime talking about
how much you're enjoying that anime and
then there'll be that one [ __ ]
friend who will rise up and go why are
you watching the anime just read the
Manga bro it's so much better and maybe
out of pure spite you go ahead and read
it just so for once in your life you can
shut that guy up but when you do you
realize [ __ ]
I'm friends with a [ __ ] the manga
was better is a phrase that's become
synonymous Community to the point where
it's inescapable but how much weight
does it actually hold what makes a good
adaptation what makes a bad adaptation
is the manga actually better is your
friend really a [ __ ]
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today back to the video the topic of
Manga and Anime adaptations is a long
and nuanced discussion that's been had
so many times in our community that I
don't even know where I can even begin
like Godwin's law every conversation you
have about manga adaptations will
eventually lead you one step closer to
mentioning berserk you have arguably the
greatest manga at your fingertips and
one of the greatest stories ever told so
surely if you just stick to the source
material no matter how it looks can an
adaptation that stays completely
faithful to the story and characters
still be bad the Black Swordsman you yes
but Sonic 2016 is The Benchmark of
everything that could go wrong in an
adaptation it's the boogeyman other
mangas tell each other when they're
sitting around at the campfire if you're
a bad boy the berserk monster is going
to come visit your Animation Studio no
Daddy please I've been a good boy please
give me a good adaptation yeah well tell
that to promise Neverland over there but
adaptations don't really need to be as
bad in this order of magnitude for the
manga to be better in fact berserk has
not had one not two but three chances to
get it right with all of them having
their own shortcomings we see with a lot
of other adaptations the movies had
updated animations some beautiful scenes
but sacrificed precious time building up
its cast of characters so many anime
have had the Dilemma of okay we only
have a certain amount of run time so do
we focus on those big climatic moments
or a quiet scene with the characters
[ __ ] it get rid of all those choir Parts
not realizing that it's those nuanced
character scenes that make those big
moments hit so hard in the first place
ironically the best adaptation berserk
got was its first one which is only
really held back by a [ __ ] you
Cliffhanger ending an animation that can
rival PowerPoint presentation it's still
a really good anime because well it's
[ __ ] bizarre but here's the real
question can I definitively say that
even though this is a good anime it does
enough to Warrant a watch over just
solely reading the Masterpiece of the
manga well yes because it gave us some
of the best dub outtakes of all time all
right who's gonna jerk me off
sometimes I ask myself if an anime
follows a manga one to one and all it
does is add music color and voice acting
is that enough to call it a good
adaptation and for me that answer is no
if I watch the first episode and I see
that all you're doing is adding a
generic soundtrack and mediocre
animation [ __ ] it I'm just gonna go read
the Manga and say I'll watch the anime
don't lie to me I know you've done the
same look man I'm a grown ass adult now
with grown ass responsibilities and we
know reading manga is basically watching
anime except you can do it way faster to
me an anime really needs to do something
above average to Warren to watch because
so many come in with the philosophy of
being a glorified advert for the source
material anyway that's why seasonal
anime have low-key become a manga
recommendation platform for me for those
shows that I find catch my interest but
just have completely bogged standard
production values if you're wondering
how I go through so much isakai that's
the secret and on top of that before an
adaptation can even be good there are so
many things it has to avoid to be bad
back in the day long-running anime had
this obsession with staying on air for
as long as possible but every franchise
would run into the same problem of
catching up to the current manga it was
based on their solution ah let's just
make them do a bunch of stupid [ __ ]
back when I first watched Naruto even my
dumbass 12 year old brain registered
something was off when I was like why
did Naruto go from chasing Sasuke to
becoming a giant robot there's no one
here have any urgency about what just
happened and it was then that I
discovered the concept of Filler
episodes thankfully modern day anime has
realized now that basically everyone
skipped Filler episodes anyway but where
it gets really messy is when the filler
starts getting integrated into normal
episodes and I hate to do this to one of
my favorite franchises of all time but
that's the reason I stopped watching One
Piece the one piece anime is something I
hold dear to my heart but after a
certain point the anime just became
unfucking watchable for me I'd noticed
several episodes in a row would have a
five minute recap of stuff I literally
just saw they'd keep cutting to
characters nobody gave a [ __ ] about to
do a scene that doesn't [ __ ] matter
pacing was murdered by characters
constantly pausing and having Extended
Stay Barrel so absolutely nothing was
achieved except padding out the run time
this is when filler ceases to be just
the minor inconvenience you can skip to
something that actively hurts the
viewing experience just so you can
stretch out the material you have as far
as possible and so I started reading the
manga and never looked back since
margaritas have this obsession with
getting a perfectly faithful adaptation
and it's easy to understand why we've
seen promised Neverland season 2 we've
seen Tokyo Ghoul root a we've seen what
happens when an anime looks at a manga
and goes no I'm actually gonna do my own
thing now bye bye [ __ ] you anime
original endings shows that completely
rush through the source material the
list goes on and because of this it
feels like there's a pressure to stick
as closely to the manga as possible but
is being 100 faithful always the best
way to go the boys is a great example of
this it took a violent edgy for Edge
sake comic and reworked it to be a
modern satire of superheroes and
commercialization making a far more
interesting product than it ever was
that was diabolical
things Keon transformed a four coma
manga into a coherent ongoing storyline
with a bit of music sprinkled in that
became one of the most beloved Slice of
Life anime to ever come out Devilman
crybaby did well have you seen the
original devil man at all being faithful
while proving to be a stable route to
success can sometimes be a shackle the
anime is just trying to take every panel
every scene and putting them on the
screen because what I think we don't see
enough is what it means to adapt to
anime itself manga has a lot of
strengths as a medium you turn the page
of a ginger Ito horror manga and it's
effectively a jump scare you're greeted
with this detailed horrific imagery that
will haunt your nightmares gruesome
drawings that'll seep into your
unconscious never to leave your memories
again and in the anime it's like
what if Squidward have a baby with
Megamind transforming a manga to anime
doesn't mean just adding movement you
need to know what works for anime and
vice versa you know it's easy to show
you a panel of mob psycho 100 and a
scene from the anime and be like hmm I
wonder what's the best way to experience
this story but I think it goes deeper
than just animation equals good because
what I think is more important is
capturing the soul of the original or
translating it to what works best for
film and to make my point we need to
talk about something entirely different
line novels you can almost always tell
within five minutes when a show is
adapting from a light novel as opposed
to a manga characters aren't afraid to
go on overly indulgent internal
monologues there will be long scenes of
nothing but just dialogue between two or
more characters with almost nothing
visually interesting going on character
a is talking okay cut to character a
standing still and talking character B
starts talking okay Cuts character B A
is talking again okay cut back to a then
B again then a
it all feels so rigid like an AI program
looked at the script and went okay plot
understood here are your storyboards and
only in the rarest moments does it feel
like any thought was put into the visual
aspects beyond the dramatic scenes and
action moments katamang adaptations boom
instantly dialogue is used more
sparingly you normally get a sense
there's a bigger emphasis on visual
storytelling which makes sense because
did you know
manga has visuals of course there are
exceptions for on a whole anime based on
manga often feel very different anime
based on light novels because the source
material is always written or drawn with
their original medium in mind but
shouldn't the anime take this into
account you look at a dynamic shot like
this and you immediately feel alright
now this is an anime original production
not bound to any manga but when you want
anime could do things that are suited
only for anime like one of the big
things where manga can falter it's in
the action I'm sure we've all read that
one manga where there's that big epic
fight happening punches are being thrown
swords are swinging [ __ ] is hitting the
metaphorical fan and you're like
I can't tell what's going on subtle
movements in intense action scenes can
easily get lost on a still page so
Morgan needs to compensate by portraying
big clearly defined actions so the
reader doesn't lose track of what's
going on or just have a bloody monologue
explain it take a look at this
live-action choreographed fight scene
this one's a favorite of mine you have
two guys fighting the protagonist and
the big boss and the big boss is always
all invade in Split seconds no
explanation you can see what's going on
now if this was a manga this fly would
be like okay well he's gonna do is
throwing mid kick to my left what I'm
gonna do is catch his kicked and elbow
his leg so he can't kick anymore and the
other guy would be like haha fool I'll
just bend my leg at the last second
block his elbow and nullifying his
attack oh no he bought my elbow well in
that case what I do next is the great
thing about anime is that these rules do
not apply so why is it that almost every
adaptation pretends that it doesn't more
often than not anime fights of a manga
have the pacing of the manga fight the
framing looks exactly the same actions
get explained even if we can clearly
convey it through movement now unless
you're embracing the chaos like Jojo or
Bucky you shouldn't always need to do
this part of the reason I love the
Hanami pipe from Jiu Jitsu Kaizen is
that it strikes that perfect balance of
explaining Toto's power but still
showing the effect it has on the
opponent but that doesn't even need to
be any complex action going on you
fightable looked at Demon Slayer and
went okay this fight isn't too
complicated so how much can we push the
climax of this one heart how much can we
raise the bar of pipe and excitement to
build towards this one moment and that
resulted in a scene with one of the
highest visual spectacles anime has seen
this was one of the moments that defined
this year of anime and this incredible
this out of the world scene was five
[ __ ] panels in the manga I mean look
at this there was a whole panel
explaining uzui's sound power and the
word no no no no we don't need this
[ __ ] this will just mess up with the
pacing we can show this visually I then
proceeded to turn this
into
[ __ ] might as well have just
turned water into wine but this isn't
limited to action scenes either one of
my favorite scenes from Naruto comes
from a moment with Shikamaru spoilers
for Naruto Shippuden if you still care
about that Shikamaru has just lost his
team leader and they're all in the
process of mourning randomly his father
invites him to play a game of shogi
which isn't too unusual for the two of
them and in two minutes of one single
unbroken shot his father slowly lectures
him during the game and in that moment
his father has given him permission to
let out all the pent-up feelings he's
been holding on inside
is amazing it's a master class of
cinematography and visual storytelling
and it is not in the manga at all yeah
by the technical definition this is
actually filler it's [ __ ] like this like
anime a scene like this would have never
worked as well in manga form but with a
different approach you can take what a
manga tried to convey and translate into
something only anime can do berserk
Vagabond Uzumaki goodbye Arie these
masterpieces of manga work so well
because they are manga and fully utilize
their medium to The Highest Potential
you can turn to some of these panels and
it feels like a painting you can pause
the page analyze every little detail
every single scratch of the pen the
artist etched into this page you can
take that moment to just take it all in
and Marvel in the moment for as long as
you need and in the anime it's like oh
hey that's a pretty background and it's
gone this is just an inherent difference
in the medium and the only chance an
anime will ever get to adapting these
works well is if it can actually play to
the strengths of its own medium rather
than trying to emulate the strengths of
another which is so goddamn rare is the
manga better honestly yes
most of the time so many more things can
go wrong before they go right you need
to have the right production the right
resources the right time to make a good
adaptation and even then if it doesn't
do enough to go above and beyond a lot
of us are probably gonna end up picking
up the manga anyway but the reason I'll
never stop being an Anime Watcher
completely is because when an adaptation
does get it right anime can elevator
manga to Heights it could never reach by
itself when you get a truly special
adaptation that you get to experience
for the first time on screen it is a
magical experience I will never stop
chasing no matter how many mediocre
adaptations I need to sit through
and the guy's still a [ __ ]
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