Best under eye rejuvenation treatments! Get younger looking eyes

Dr. Stefani Kappel
30 Jul 202326:11

Summary

TLDRThis video script by a board-certified cosmetic dermatologist delves into under-eye rejuvenation, a popular cosmetic concern. The dermatologist discusses various treatments, emphasizing the importance of skin's unique structure in this area. She highlights the benefits of lasers and energy-based devices for stimulating collagen and elastin production, while also addressing the use of injectables like Botox and fillers, and their potential risks. The script also touches on less effective treatments like PRP, microneedling, and thread lifts, advocating for a balanced approach combining professional treatments with daily skincare.

Takeaways

  • 🎓 The speaker is a board-certified cosmetic dermatologist specializing in non-surgical rejuvenation treatments for the under-eye area.
  • 📍 The under-eye area is the first to show signs of aging due to its thinner skin and different histology compared to other facial areas.
  • 🔍 As we age, the under-eye area can develop fine lines, wrinkles, laxity, bags, and dark circles due to the loss of collagen and elastin.
  • 💡 The speaker advocates for treatments that stimulate the skin's own regenerative processes to produce collagen and elastin for long-term results.
  • 👨‍⚕️ The importance of finding a specialist who understands and is trained in using lasers and energy-based devices for rejuvenation treatments is emphasized.
  • 🌟 Lasers and energy-based devices like Thermage are recommended for their ability to stimulate collagen and elastin production, leading to a smoother and tighter under-eye area.
  • ⚠️ The speaker advises against using Botox under the eyes due to the risk of altering eye shape and causing issues like sclera show.
  • 🈲️ The use of PRP and PRF for under-eye rejuvenation is cautioned due to their temporary effects and potential for frequent re-treatments.
  • 🚫 Microneedling under the eyes is discouraged due to the risk of post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation and permanent discoloration.
  • 🌱 Injectable fillers, particularly tear trough fillers, should be used by expert injectors and are best for addressing volume loss rather than fine lines and wrinkles.
  • 🛠️ Surgical options like skin pinch are mentioned for severe cases but should be performed by skilled oculoplastic surgeons to avoid complications.

Q & A

  • What is the primary focus of the video?

    -The primary focus of the video is on under eye rejuvenation, discussing various treatments and approaches to address aging in the under eye area.

  • Why is the under eye area the first to show signs of aging according to the dermatologist?

    -The under eye area shows signs of aging first due to its thinner epidermis and dermis, as well as a different glandular composition compared to other areas of the face.

  • What are some of the noticeable changes that occur under the eyes as we age?

    -Some noticeable changes include fine lines, wrinkles, under eye laxity, bags or puffiness, and dark circles due to the thinning of the skin and loss of collagen and elastin.

  • What is the dermatologist's view on using fillers for under eye rejuvenation?

    -The dermatologist is not a huge proponent of using fillers for under eye rejuvenation, preferring instead to stimulate the skin's own regenerative processes to produce collagen and elastin for a more natural and long-term effect.

  • What types of lasers are mentioned in the video for under eye rejuvenation?

    -The video mentions ablative lasers, non-ablative lasers, and hybrid non-ablatable ablative lasers like the Halo for under eye rejuvenation.

  • Why is it important to find a laser specialist for laser treatments?

    -It is important to find a laser specialist because operating lasers requires extensive training and expertise to perform them safely and correctly, ensuring the best results.

  • What is the role of Thermage in under eye rejuvenation?

    -Thermage uses heat in the form of radiofrequency, micro-focused ultrasound, or ultrasound to stimulate fibroblasts, the collagen-producing cells, which helps tighten the under eye area and improve its appearance.

  • What is the dermatologist's opinion on using Botox for the under eye area?

    -The dermatologist has a no-fly zone for Botox injections under the eyes due to the risk of changing eye shape and causing a condition called sclera show, where too much white is visible under the iris.

  • What are the potential issues with using PRP and PRF for under eye rejuvenation?

    -PRP and PRF are safe but have a temporary effect as they are pulled into the vasculature and carried away from the treatment area, requiring frequent re-treatments that may not be as effective as other treatments.

  • Why does the dermatologist advise against microneedling under the eyes?

    -Microneedling under the eyes can cause post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation and may not provide effective results, leading to potential discoloration and the need for further treatments to correct the issue.

  • What is the alternative to surgery for severe under eye laxity or wrinkles?

    -For severe under eye laxity or wrinkles, the dermatologist may refer to oculoplastic surgeons who can perform a procedure called a skin pinch, which involves the excision and removal of excess under eye skin.

  • What is the importance of using an under eye serum according to the dermatologist?

    -The dermatologist emphasizes the importance of using an under eye serum with specific active ingredients tailored for the under eye area, comparing it to eating clean and taking supplements after a workout for skin health.

Outlines

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😀 Introduction to Under Eye Rejuvenation

The speaker, a cosmetic dermatologist, introduces the topic of under eye rejuvenation, highlighting its popularity among patients. They emphasize the unique characteristics of the under eye area, such as thinner skin and different glandular composition, which make it more susceptible to showing signs of aging. The dermatologist outlines the common issues like fine lines, wrinkles, laxity, bags, and dark circles, and stresses the importance of stimulating the skin's own regenerative processes for long-term benefits over using temporary fillers.

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🌟 The Role of Lasers in Rejuvenation

This paragraph discusses the use of lasers for under eye rejuvenation, explaining that they stimulate collagen and elastin production, which can help maintain a smooth and tight under eye area. The speaker differentiates between ablative, non-ablative, and hybrid lasers, mentioning the Halo as an example. They stress the importance of finding a laser specialist for safe and effective treatments and mention that lasers are not commonly found everywhere due to their operator-dependence and the need for extensive training.

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🔥 Thermage and Energy-Based Devices

The speaker introduces Thermage and other energy-based devices as effective treatments for under eye rejuvenation. They explain how these devices use heat to stimulate fibroblasts and collagen production, leading to tightening of the under eye area. The paragraph details the process of Thermage treatment, including the use of an intraocular eye shield for safety, and mentions the longevity of its results, typically lasting about five years. The speaker also shares personal experience with Thermage and recommends finding a qualified provider.

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💉 Cautions with Botox and Fillers

In this paragraph, the speaker addresses the use of Botox and fillers for under eye rejuvenation with caution. They mention the 'no-fly zone' for Botox injections to avoid altering eye shape and causing complications like scleral show. The speaker advises using Botox judiciously in areas like crow's feet and bunny lines. They also discuss the role of fillers, particularly tear trough fillers, for addressing hollows and volume loss but warn against overuse, which can lead to distortion and the need for frequent touch-ups.

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🚫 Debunking Common Misconceptions

The speaker dispels misconceptions about certain treatments for under eye rejuvenation. They discuss the use of V-beam laser for addressing dark circles caused by underlying vasculature and differentiate it from pigmentation issues that may require different lasers. They also critique PRP and PRF treatments, explaining their temporary nature and potential for frequent re-treatments. The speaker advises against microneedling under the eyes due to the risk of hyperpigmentation and recommends seeking expert injectors for thread lifts to avoid visible threads and complications.

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⚠️ The Risks of Untrained Injectors

This paragraph serves as a warning about the influx of untrained cosmetic injectors during the COVID-19 pandemic. The speaker expresses concern over the lack of proper training and education among these practitioners, which can lead to ineffective treatments and complications for patients. They emphasize the importance of seeking qualified professionals for aesthetic treatments and share personal experiences of correcting issues caused by untrained injectors.

👁️ Surgical Options and Skincare

The final paragraph touches on surgical options for severe under eye issues, such as skin pinch surgery, and the importance of consulting with skilled oculoplastic surgeons. The speaker also advocates for the use of eye serums with specific active ingredients for daily under eye care, comparing in-office procedures to gym workouts and daily skincare to a healthy diet and post-workout supplements.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Cosmetic Dermatology

Cosmetic Dermatology is a specialized field of medicine that focuses on aesthetic enhancement of the skin, hair, and nails. In the video's context, the speaker is a board-certified cosmetic dermatologist who discusses various treatments for under-eye rejuvenation, emphasizing the importance of this area in showing signs of aging and the different cosmetic procedures available to address it.

💡Under-eye Rejuvenation

Under-eye rejuvenation refers to a set of cosmetic procedures aimed at reducing the signs of aging around the eyes, such as fine lines, wrinkles, dark circles, and puffiness. The video's theme revolves around this concept, with the speaker providing insights into the most requested treatments for this area and the latest techniques available.

💡Lasers

Lasers are devices that emit a concentrated beam of light used in cosmetic dermatology for various skin treatments, including under-eye rejuvenation. The script discusses different types of lasers, such as ablative, non-ablative, and hybrid lasers, and their role in stimulating collagen and elastin production to improve skin texture and reduce signs of aging.

💡Thermage

Thermage is an energy-based device that uses radiofrequency to heat the deep layers of the skin, promoting collagen production and skin tightening. The speaker mentions Thermage as a preferred method for under-eye rejuvenation, highlighting its effectiveness in providing long-lasting results.

💡Injectables

Injectables refer to substances that are injected into the skin for cosmetic purposes, such as Botox and dermal fillers. The video discusses the use of Botox for crow's feet and the cautious use of dermal fillers in the under-eye area to avoid complications like nootropion.

💡Botox

Botox is a neurotoxin derived from the bacterium Clostridium botulinum, used in cosmetic procedures to relax muscles and reduce the appearance of wrinkles. The speaker mentions Botox as a treatment for crow's feet but advises against its use directly under the eyes due to the risk of altering eye shape and causing nootropion.

💡Dermal Fillers

Dermal fillers are substances like hyaluronic acid that are injected into the skin to add volume, smooth out wrinkles, or enhance facial features. The video discusses the use of dermal fillers for under-eye hollows and volume loss, but also warns against overuse, which can lead to distortion.

💡V-beam Laser

The V-beam Laser is a specific type of laser treatment that targets vascular issues, such as dark circles under the eyes. The speaker describes its use in brightening the under-eye area by targeting the underlying vasculature that can cause a dark appearance when the skin is thin.

💡PRP and PRF

PRP (Platelet-Rich Plasma) and PRF (Platelet-Rich Fibrin) are treatments that involve injecting a concentrated form of the patient's own blood, rich in growth factors, into the skin to stimulate healing and collagen production. The speaker discusses the limitations of PRP and PRF for under-eye rejuvenation, noting their temporary effects and potential for frequent re-treatment.

💡Microneedling

Microneedling is a procedure that involves creating tiny punctures in the skin with fine needles to stimulate collagen production and skin regeneration. The speaker advises against microneedling under the eyes due to the risk of post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation and lack of significant benefit.

💡Thread Lifts

Thread lifts are a cosmetic procedure that uses threads or sutures inserted under the skin to lift and tighten sagging areas. The speaker mentions thread lifts as an option for under-eye rejuvenation but expresses a preference for other treatments like lasers, citing the potential visibility of threads and the difficulty of removal if misplaced.

💡Skin Pinch

A skin pinch is a surgical procedure where excess skin under the eyes is removed to address severe laxity or sagging. The speaker mentions this as a last resort for patients with significant under-eye skin laxity, emphasizing the importance of seeking a skilled oculoplastic surgeon for such procedures.

💡Eye Serums

Eye serums are topical treatments specifically formulated for the delicate skin around the eyes. The speaker recommends investing in a good eye serum as part of a daily skincare routine to complement in-office procedures, comparing it to the importance of proper nutrition in addition to exercise.

Highlights

Under eye area is the most requested area for rejuvenation treatments.

Specialization in lasers and energy-based devices for cosmetic dermatology.

Eyelid skin is distinct in histology, thinner, and shows age first.

Aging starts from the 20s with loss of collagen and elastin leading to wrinkles and laxity.

Under eye bags are due to fat pad movement and thinner skin.

Glandular functional units become noticeable as the skin thins with age.

Dark circles under the eyes are caused by underlying vasculature visibility.

Enhancing skin's regenerative processes is more effective than passive filler treatments.

Lasers stimulate collagen and elastin production for under eye area rejuvenation.

Finding a laser specialist is crucial for safe and effective laser treatments.

Thermage is a favored energy-based device for long-term skin tightening.

Injectable fillers should be used cautiously in the under eye area to avoid complications.

Botox usage in the under eye area can cause changes in eye shape and appearance.

PRP and PRF are temporary treatments for under eye hollows with limited long-term effects.

Microneedling under the eyes can cause hyperpigmentation and is not recommended.

Thread lifts for under eyes can be seen through the skin if not placed correctly.

Surgical options like skin pinch are for severe cases with significant skin laxity.

Daily use of an eye serum is essential for maintaining under eye health.

Transcripts

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I'm a board certified Fellowship trained

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cosmetic dermatologist in Newport Beach

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California and today I wanted to do a

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video on under eye Rejuvenation and the

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reason why I wanted to do this video is

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it's probably the most requested area

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that I get for my patients so we just

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finished Clinic just now and my practice

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is in Newport Beach and it's 100

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Cosmetics I specialize in lasers and

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energy-based devices and all things

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cosmetic Dermatology and I feel that

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this is probably the most sought after

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area to receive rejuvenating treatments

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whether it be lasers or tightening

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devices or injectables so I wanted to

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dedicate a video to you guys just to

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kind of update you and keep you updated

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with the latest and greatest in

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non-surgical Rejuvenation of the under

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eye area so before I move on ask you to

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like subscribe and share this Channel

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with anyone who wants non-sponsored

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content from a board certified

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dermatologist and I'll keep you guys in

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the know with the latest and greatest so

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the under eye area is the first to show

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our age and the reason why this happens

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is that skin is different than other

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areas of the face the histology meaning

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when you look under the microscope of

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the eyelid skin is totally different

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than that of the face and I just know

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this because I spent years looking under

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the microscope when I was doing most

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micrographic surgery where you excited

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skin cancers and you look at skin day in

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and day out under the microscope that

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skin is very very different than other

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areas of the face and it's also the

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first to show our age because of that

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and the epidermis is thinner the dermis

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is thinner and the glandular component

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composition of that tissue is different

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so what happens as we get older and this

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even starts in our 20s you know you

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start aging the day that you're born

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right but it's just understanding these

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changes and why they happen and why

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you're seeing things under the eye that

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you didn't see before you can see fine

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lines and wrinkles because that skin is

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thinner and as it's losing collagen and

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elastin it doesn't have that structural

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support that it once had to keep that

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skin nice and firm and tight so you may

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start to notice under eye wrinkles under

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eye laxity you can notice under eye bags

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or kind of like a puffiness under the

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eye and that usually happens from a

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movement of the fat pad that's

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underneath the face and the skin being

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thinner so that's more visible than it

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was before sometimes a lot of my

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patients will complain of little almost

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like these little white tiny little

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millimeter like pop papules under the

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eyes those are glandular functional

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units that are functional in the skin

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but these glands weren't as noticeably

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and they weren't as noticeable as they

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were before because the skin was thicker

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and had more collagen it kind of

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camouflaged it a little bit more

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sometimes you can start to notice dark

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Hues under the eyes like a purple or

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dark blue discoloration that wasn't

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there before making you look like tired

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or making you look sickly or older and

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the reason why you get that dark

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discoloration is because of the

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underlying vasculature that may have

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been camouflaged before by having

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thicker skin with more collagen and

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extracellular Matrix proteins in it so

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what happens is as we age and as we get

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older as we gain wisdom and half

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birthdays you lose the collagen and

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elastin and under eye skin and that can

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cause a myriad of of problems dark

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circles of underlying fat pads teardrops

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Fine Lines wrinkles Lexi all those

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things so by enhancing your Skin's own

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regenerative processes to make collagen

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and to make elastin and to make all

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those extra cyber Matrix proteins that

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we once had to get it back to where it

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was before in my opinion is a lot more

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efficacious and a lot better long term

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for longevity for skin health and just

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Aesthetics in general than just

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passively doing a bunch of filler or

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passively doing you know prf or PRP

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which lasts like a few weeks maybe so I

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always am a big proponent of lasers

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energy-based devices things are going to

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stimulate your Skin's regenerative

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processes because not only does it look

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more natural but the long-term sequela

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the long-term look of it looks a lot

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better than having a disfigured face

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with a bunch of tear drop filler don't

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get me wrong tear traveler has its main

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role and it does play a role and has its

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place but I feel that all too often and

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people will just jump to that instead of

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fixing the problem and stimulating the

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body to make the collagen and elastin

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that has been lost to kind of reverse

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aging process so talking about lasers

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first so lasers are one of the best

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things you can do to stimulate collagen

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and elastin to help keep the under eye

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area nice and smooth and tight and

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there's different lasers you have

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ablative lasers you have non-ablative

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glaciers and then you have kind of

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hybrid non-ablatable ablative lasers

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like the Halo so it doesn't really

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matter which laser it is because when

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you're talking about an ablative laser

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that could be a CO2 it could be an

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erbium or you talk about a non-ablative

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laser that could be a fraxel or you know

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a pixel or a pixel or there's so many

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different kinds of lasers so I don't

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want you guys to get kind of hung up on

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the laser but it's really important to

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find a laser specialist who understands

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lasers and you may not find lasers that

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often because you know there's so many

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Medi spots nowadays there's there's not

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very many medical spas that have true

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lasers because lasers like this one

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behind me the picot you really have to

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have extensive training and have a laser

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surgeon who understands how to operate

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these lasers to perform them safely and

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correctly so usually what lower tiered

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non medical practices will do is they'll

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have you know an IPL or a bvl or micro

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needling or these kind of lower tiered

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um treatments that may not work as well

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but they're safer and they're easy to

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operate you use a drop down menu you

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kind of do the same thing on everyone

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but when you really use a powerful laser

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that's very elegant in and the results

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are just next level and doing this over

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a lifetime is really beneficial I have a

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lot of patients who will come in for

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full face laser resurfacing maybe once a

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year and then maybe you know once a

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quarter or maybe twice a year they'll

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come and we'll just do just the under

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eye area just to keep that area

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rejuvenated and what lasers do is they

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stimulate collagen and elastin synthesis

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and over time that will help keep that

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under eye area nice and smooth and tight

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and will help diminish the appearance of

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fine lines and wrinkles and again the

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reason why you don't find lasers

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everywhere is because they're a little

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bit more operator dependent harder to

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use and you really what part it requires

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a higher level of expertise but when you

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find a laser specialist and the right

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laser there's nothing that compares to

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it we're just few and far between it's

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definitely worth looking at looking it

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up and trying to find a provider in your

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area or someone close in the vicinity of

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where you live to have these treatments

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done because long term there's nothing

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that comes close so in addition to

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lasers another device that we can use to

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help stimulate collagen and rejuvenate

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the under eye area is thermometer

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energy-based devices now when you talk

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about energy-based devices there's soft

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waves there is All Therapy I love

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Thermage because I've had all those

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different devices and you know when I

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did my laser Fellowship we were in a

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large building with hundreds of lasers

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and I saw which lasers gave the happiest

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patients the most consistent outcomes

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and and the most reproducible Next Level

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outcomes and those are the devices that

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I happen to have in my practice when I

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opened my own private practice three

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years ago so although software of old

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therapy therapy there's a lot of

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different tightening devices out there

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Thermage happens to be my favorite now

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and I'll talk about all of the energy

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based devices kind of like under an

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umbrella term of energy-based devices

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and it pertains to all of them but what

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they do is they put heat in the form I'm

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sorry they put heat in the form of

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either radar frequency Micro Focus

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ultrasound or ultrasound in the um in

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the case of ulthera and it stimulates

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your fibroblasts which is the collagen

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producing cells to make collagen and

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that helps tighten that area now when we

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do Thermage there's a special handpiece

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that goes on for the eyelid um that or

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the under eye area you don't use the

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same hand piece that you use on the face

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or for a neck on the eyelid it has a

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special eyelid handpiece and so if you

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go to a provider and they're not using

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that handpiece you know then they're not

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doing it correctly and you have to put

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into your ocular Eye shield into the eye

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in order to do Thermage even you can do

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it above the eye and below the eye but

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because this video we're talking about

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under our Rejuvenation I'm going to be

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specific for the under eye but you put

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an intraocular Eye shield in the eye and

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then you do the Thermage underneath the

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eye and it usually takes about two to

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three months to start to see tightening

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and Improvement in that area and those

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results continue for up to a year and

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results typically last about five years

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or so so even for myself I did it when I

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was 30 when I was 35 when I was 40 when

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I was 45 and it's one of the best things

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that I've done long term to keep that

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under eye area chock full of collagen

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and to help keep it nice and smooth and

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firm and tight and the intraocular Eye

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shield sometimes can spook some people

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out like especially if people are

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squeamish with their eyes being touched

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and things like that people who wear

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contact lenses are usually a lot a

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little bit you know it's a little bit

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easier to you know insert the

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interoperative Eye shield in but it's

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actually very comfortable procedure we

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usually I use a little bit of numbing

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drops your eyeball is numb it's kind of

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when you go and you get your eyes down

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by an ophthalmologist and you have an

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eye exam but the memory drops in but the

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intraocular Eye shield in and you can't

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really feel it once it's in there and

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then we only have it in the AI for about

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15 to 20 minutes per side while we do

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the thermos treatment then we take it

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out and you're done so important things

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to know is that you do need the Eye

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shield it's not painful or scary and you

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have to go to a provider who knows how

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to put one of those eye shields in

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because I actually learned on a

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pediatric ophthalmology rotation how to

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put intraocular eye shields in and we

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learn about pediatric patients who are

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very squirmy and probably the hardest

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patients to actually put an Eye shield

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in and if I can put it in those little

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guys I can you know it makes it very

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easy for me to put it into adult

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patients but I got gained a lot of

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experience um there when I did my

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pediatric rotation what we were doing

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um lasers for things like port wine

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stains and different birthmarks that

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were part of laser treatments we'd have

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to put intraocular Eye shield into those

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little guys so if I can do it in that

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facial Revelation it's made it very easy

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so don't let that turn you off from

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having Thermage done under eyes because

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at the under eyeings it's one of the

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best treatments available

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so next moving on to injectable so let's

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start with botox first so BOTOX for

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under the I have a no-fly zone for botox

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injection and the only reason why is

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because it can change the way your eye

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shape looks when you smile and it can

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cause a nootropion where you know your

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eyelid margin is you have like sclero

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show which is just a an optimogic term

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for you you see too much white under

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your iris of your eye between the live

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margin and the iris that there's too

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much white showing there it just is

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called Square show and it looks kind of

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funny and that can happen as a side

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effect of Botox so Botox can be used but

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very diligently and very precisely so we

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often do Botox for the crow's feet area

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and sometimes when people have a lot of

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laxing under the eye doing crow's feet

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Botox can actually accentuate that so

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you have to have an injector who's

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highly skilled and can kind of think

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outside the box and knows his or her

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Anatomy well because the way you can

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kind of fake it out and cheap is that

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you do a nathalis Botox which we call

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the bunny lines when you scrunch your

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nose up and you get wrinkles there I'm

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doing a little bit of Botox there and

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along the um the crow's feet can help

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soften this area also now I have to be

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careful because this is by no means an

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injection course I'm by no means giving

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out any medical information this is just

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a YouTube video just kind of educating

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you guys and telling you about what

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treatment options are out there and what

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things to look out for because being a

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physician with a medical license you

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know it gets kind of scary on YouTube we

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have different um credentials than other

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people on social media and you know it

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has to be really we have to be very um

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diligent with saying this is not an

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injection course and I'm not teaching

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you guys how to do Botox by any means

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take a course if you need to learn how

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um but when we do um under eye Botox we

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don't usually go directly under the eye

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now you can do something called jelly

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roll Botox which is like one unit right

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underneath what we call the jelly roll

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area which can help with um softening

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those lines also but unless you're an

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expert injector I don't recommend doing

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it I think doing the safer areas like

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the crow's feet the nasalas and maybe a

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couple droplets under the eye if you're

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comfortable with it as an injector and

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if you as a patient are going to

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somebody who's highly highly skilled and

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highly trained otherwise don't

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jeopardize it don't risk it it's not

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worth it it's your face and you don't

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want to have to walk around for three to

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six months with irregular looking eyes

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Okay so next thing we want to talk about

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for under eye Rejuvenation is pure trop

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filler now I'm not a huge filler

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proponent I'm a laser girl I'm an expert

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in lasers and Laser medicine but I do do

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a lot of injectables in my office as

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well as a matter of fact I served on The

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Advisory board when tier truck filler

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got FDA approved when a fabella got tear

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drop approval by the FDA and I'm a

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trainer for alargan where I teach people

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how to do tear drop filler I happen to

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use the cannula but you have to go to

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someone who again is an expert injector

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because it is your face in the teardrop

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area it can be a very high risk area I

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prefer to use a cannula because this is

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safer delivery mechanism and it causes

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less bruising less swelling and it's a

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much better experience for the patient

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in my experience and

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um it's also important to know that tear

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popular has its role it's not that again

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I'm a big proponent of lasers and

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tightening devices I'd rather tighten up

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that skin and make everything look

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better than possibly putting a bunch of

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filler that's going to stretch out the

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skin to smooth out the wrinkles and then

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a year goes by and then you're going to

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need more filler and then more filler

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and then more and then you start getting

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Fuller and Fuller floor under the eyes

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and it starts looking distorted so I

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think that it's an important um teaching

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point to know that yes tear truffler has

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its role it's great for under eye

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Hollows it's great for under eye volume

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loss and it's a great treatment to help

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smooth out the topography like there's a

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Hill Valley Hill or like a teardrop area

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where there's a little sunken volume

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loss it helps smooth the eyelid cheek

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Junction by adding in that little bit of

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volume but the problem that I think some

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people get into especially with

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everybody trying to be an aesthetic

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injector these days without having the

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appropriate training and going through

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years and years of education at school

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trying to educate themselves they just

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will passively use tear trough filler to

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help smooth fine lines and wrinkles yes

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tear top filler will temporarily smooth

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out fine lines and wrinkles because

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you're stretching out the skin it's like

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taking a balloon that's you know that

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doesn't have any air in it blowing it up

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it's going to stretch out the skin to

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make the fine lines and wrinkles look

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better but guess what a year later when

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those fine lines and wrinkles come back

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and you still have tear truffler there

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and you added more and more that's when

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you get into trouble and people start to

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look start to look distorted and

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disfigured and their eyes get small and

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just it's just not a good look so

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understanding who is a candidate for

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tear trustler and when to traveler would

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be an option for you is really important

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but if you're doing it for fine lines

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and wrinkles under the eyes that's not

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the treatment and not the recommended

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treatment of choice

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Next Step which I want to address is the

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under eye discoloration or dark circles

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under the eye so when people have dark

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circles under the eye it's usually

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because that skin is thinner and you're

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seeing the underlying vasculature Under

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The Eye and v-beam Laser V just stands

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for vascular v-beam is a 595 nanometer

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wavelength laser that can really help

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brighten the under eye area usually I do

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two passes I'm not going to give away my

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settings on YouTube but there's specific

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settings that you have to use and you

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have to make sure that you're going to a

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laser specialist because a lot of times

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people misuse BB when they can cause

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bruising that lasts for a very long time

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when they use the wrong settings or

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preferred dosing I won't even get into

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the science behind that or like get you

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technical with that but just make sure

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you're going to somebody who you trust

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who's very well versed in lasers

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hopefully laser Fellowship trained and

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they can help brighten the under eye

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area due to dark circles usually it

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requires about three treatments space

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one month apart and the downtime is not

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bad at all it's a little bit of swelling

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which is kind of cool what it looks like

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filler

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um and then a little bit of redness

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that's easily concealable with a little

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bit of eye concealer or like the three

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in one total I buy color science or some

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type of tinted sunscreen it is

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definitely worth it and it's just

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something that you can do three sessions

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of to help fade the under eye dark

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circles that happen from the underlying

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vasculature that shows through when the

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skin thins over time now that's

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different than melanin if you actually

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have pigment under the under the eyes or

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like kind of like where the skin gathers

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it can appear a little bit darker

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melanin is a different chromophore than

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hemoglobin which is what the vascular of

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a major kind of targets melanin when you

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have

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um you know if you're a darker skin tone

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or you have like a genetic

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predisposition to have dark circles

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under the eyes sometimes we can use

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brightening agents or sometimes we can

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use other lasers that are targeted for

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melanin specifically but I don't want to

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get into that I'll do a whole laser

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video on another

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um on another video where I get into the

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nitty-gritty and specifics of lasers too

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but there's a different laser that we

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can use when the um under eye dark

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circles are a result of

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hyperpigmentation

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and another treatment option and I have

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a couple patients asking me about this

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every once in a while is prf and PRP so

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this is the deal of prf and PRP for

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those of you who don't know PRS is

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platelet-rich vibrin and PRP is

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platelet-rich plasma and so what you do

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is you go to an office they take a blood

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supply or take a blood sample and they

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spin it down to centrifuge and they take

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out the supernatin which basically has

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rather a bunch of growth factors

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platelets all good things and you you

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suck it up into a syringe and you inject

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it into the tear trough now this is the

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I'm going to give you you guys know I'm

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honest I'm non-sponsored I can say what

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I want about any company or any

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treatment and it's the truth and it

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comes from years of experience but the

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thing with PRP and prf is it's safe

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because it's a plasma it's made to be

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inside the blood vessels it's made to be

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intravascular so when people are scared

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or hesitant and aren't comfortable

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injecting the tear troughs because they

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don't they're not trained to do it and

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it's scary to them which it should be

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because you shouldn't be injecting tear

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tops as an injector unless you're

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investor are solid and you're highly

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trained to do so so instead of doing to

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your top filler they'll do PRP or prf

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because it's safer because if it gets

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into the blood vessel oh well you know

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you don't get an arterial occlusion

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because it's meant to be in the vascular

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drone that just gets circulated away the

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problem is is that it has an affinity

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for the blood vessels so in PRP and prf

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are injected into the skin it doesn't

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stay in the tear trough area meaning

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you're not going to have the long-term

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effects of tear drop filler that you do

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with like a hyaluronic acid-based filler

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like vobella or like Restylane or you

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know rha2 it's going to be circulated

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pulled into the vasculature and it's

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carried away from the treatment area so

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it's a very temporary treatment and in

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fact when it first became

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um in order to be a possible treatment

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for under eye Hollows and under eye

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Rejuvenation I participated in clinical

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trials of PRP and PRS and we were all

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you know excited about it and then just

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super let down and disappointed when we

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saw that the results did last and the

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patients were always unhappy and they'd

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have to come in like every month or

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every a couple months for you know a new

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injection and nobody wants to go through

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that so although it's safer it's better

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to do a tear trial filler that may be

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higher risk but safer when in the hands

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of a skilled injector and just earlier

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this week I had a patient came in and

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she's a beautiful girl she was actually

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very young and had um anatomical tear

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drops you know she was like in her late

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20s and she had anatomical tear trust

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and she was told by a provider that she

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was a candidate for tear trough filler

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but the situation was she was a

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candidate for teardrop filler here she

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probably didn't feel comfortable doing

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that so she tried to talk her into doing

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PR or PRP which she did like four or

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five times and had to keep going back to

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this Mighty spot back over and over

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again and then she finally ended up in

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my office with his doctor I need to draw

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filler like the prf PRP is an option for

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me but my other provider said I wasn't a

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candidate and it is true that sometimes

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people aren't candidates but this was

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not the case with her and I just think

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that I see that a lot as a provider

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um you know you have patients coming in

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being turned away from certain Services

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because their providers aren't

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comfortable performing that service so

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they try to talk you into something that

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may be more expensive more time

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consuming and then doesn't work and then

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you keep doing it over and over again

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because you're wrapped into some package

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or membership or something like that so

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just be smarter you guys I know if

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you're following me and you're you're

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into this channel you're you've already

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like done your research and you're

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you're smarter than that so I just want

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to be able to educate you guys and let

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you know that's the 4-1-1 on that's

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that's the information about PRP and prf

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because

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um in theory it would be a great

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treatment but in reality it doesn't

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compare to some of the other treatments

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that we have they're a little bit more

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advanced

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some may say that there's some growth

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factor benefit to the peer prf but if

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that's what you're looking for then use

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a growth factor serum on the under eye

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area or do a laser which is going to

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give you a lot more collagen stimulation

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than a growth factor or an objective PRP

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so that's my um that's my take on it

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okay and since we're talking about

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medi's boss and not to cap on many Spas

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you guys but it's just during covid and

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2020 there's just a huge influx of

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um cosmetic injectors and people in this

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industry that did not take 15 years of

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education to get here so they're lacking

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in a lot of training and they're doing

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things that are not working and hurting

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people and again they end up in my

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office to reverse these complications

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when they happen so this is my trying to

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do good in the world and trying to

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educate you guys so these things don't

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happen to you so on the on that note

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micro needling under the eyes is not

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something that I would recommend you

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guys you're going to find microneedling

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on every street corner especially in

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this town there's like 50 Medi spas on

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my whole way home from Newport Beach to

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Laguna when I take PCH that we pass by

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all these different medicine spots with

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all these micro needling you know

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Groupons and like all of these deals and

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things like that so the problem with

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micro needling under the eyes is it can

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cause post-inflammatory

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hyperpigmentation a I don't even think

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it works that well and B when you get

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post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation the

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hemosiderin deposition and the pigment

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the melanin deposition that can result

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from microneedling can permanently

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discolor the eyes and so I have a

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handful of patients that I have had this

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done to them and we've had to work for

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months and months using different lasers

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and brightening agents to kind of

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brighten up the hyperpigmentation left

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after microneedling and then the

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microneedling didn't really give them

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results anyway so they went from having

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you know Perfect Skin young patients

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with Perfect Skin trying to be proactive

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in trying to stimulate collagen in an

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under eye area and their you know skin

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pipe you know three four five and they

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have this horrible hyperpigmentation

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that's now a bigger problem so I'm not a

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huge proponent of microneedling for

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under eye Rejuvenation and that's why

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okay last but not least one that comes

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up every once in a while are threads for

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under eye so thread lifts work really

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well and I perform threadless in my

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office and I've been doing them for

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years and there's a certain type of

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thread called the smooth thread or

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collagen stimulating threads that you

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can inject or into start under under the

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eye area to help stimulate collagen kind

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of like a filler would just you know

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stimulating collagen stimulating elastic

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synthesis by the um by the presence of a

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thread under the eye I've used them

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before and they're okay but I feel like

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there's much better treatment options

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including lasers I'd much rather do a

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laser procedure on a patient and have

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them have a much better result for the

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same price as doing some smooth spreads

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under the eyes sometimes also when

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they're not placed correctly if you're

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having it done by someone who's maybe

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not that well trained you can see them

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through and so you can see these like

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little lines or like linear structures

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under the eye which is never a good look

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and once those threads are in there

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they're hard to remove and hard to get

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out I actually had a patient who has in

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place to buy within a different station

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in a place by an esthetician and they

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were placed incorrectly and so she could

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see them through so the esthetician

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actually used a scalpel and went in

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there and surgically removed it and this

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is whole hot mess now I have to fraxle

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heart and fax all the scars so that

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they're not a parent so again I see the

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bad things you guys so you know I'm a

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little jaded but I also want to educate

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you guys so this doesn't happen to you

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so on the topic of threads it can help

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stimulate collagen but again it doesn't

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work I think it's okay but I think that

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there's much better and more elegant

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options um out there to help smooth and

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tighten the under eye area like the ones

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that we already talked about

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okay and then the last thing I wanted to

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talk about is surgery so I don't perform

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lower lip blepharoplasty which is under

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eye surgery I do perform upper

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lipoplasty in my office um the patients

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are awake and that juice requires some

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local anesthetics before the under eye

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where we're moving around fat and we're

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moving around of tissue

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um I defer to my oculoplastics uh

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colleagues for those procedures but

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there's a um there's a surgical

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procedure called The Skin pitch where

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they can take some excess if it's really

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severe and when my patients have a lot

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of laxity or a lot of loose skin or um

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you know really severe righted under eye

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wrinkles then I deferred ocular Plastics

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and they'll do a procedure called The

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Skin pinch now it's really important to

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go to a very you know skilled of course

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arthroplastic surgeon and I always refer

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to Dr Ray tafon who's in La he's amazing

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and also I'm an Orange County Dr Jeffrey

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Joseph is incredible but um what they do

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is they do a little excision and removal

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of that under eye skin the problem is is

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that you in order to qualify to be a

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attended it for this surgery you need a

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lot of laxity like you need to be able

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to pinch it and let it go and have it

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like stay so that was called that

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tenting you have to have a left relaxing

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to be a candidate for that and if you're

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not if you don't have that much laxity

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and you do have a skin pinch surgery you

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can have like the opposite problem true

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where you're like too tight and you open

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your mouth and your eyes you know your

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your your you have a bad octopion like

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your eyelid margin doesn't even touch

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the globe of your eye anymore so the

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good thing is is that you have a lot of

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you know laxity there then you'd

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probably be a surgical candidate but you

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have to have it be pretty severe in

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order to qualify for that surgery so for

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I would say 95 of my patients it's more

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all about lasers tightening devices

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things to assimilate collagen and

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rejuvenate the under eyes through that

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mechanism of action so I hope that

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answers your questions with under eye

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Rejuvenation and how to smooth and

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tighten the under eye area of course

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also using eye serums helps a lot of

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people out there will say the eye under

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eye area does not need different active

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ingredients that other areas of the face

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and I completely disagree and unless

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they spent years looking under the

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microscope and really understanding skin

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histology they may not have that

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appreciation but the under eye area

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requires specific active ingredient

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ingredients and it's a really good idea

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to invest in a good under eye serum that

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you can use on a day-to-day basis

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because I always say in office

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procedures like lasers tightening

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devices you know injectables are like

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going to the gym and what you do at home

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every day with your actives and your

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skincare is like eating clean and

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drinking your protein after a workout so

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