EPISODE 524 | Samkelo's Take on Acting, Adulting, Intimacy Riders, Bomb Production, Music, Feminism
Summary
TLDRThis video script covers a wide-ranging conversation between MacG, Sol Phenduka, and actress Samkelo Ndlovu on the Podcast and Chill show. They discuss various topics including Samkelo's acting roles, social issues around transactional relationships, feminism, shortcuts people take to success, the influence of social media on youth, voting, and the conflict in Congo. The conversation provides insight into Samkelo's experiences and views, touching on relationships, politics, social media, youth culture and more in an open, candid discussion.
Takeaways
- 😊 The guests reminisce about being at the same primary school and joke about visiting to see if their names are still on honor boards
- 😮 The actress shares about taking a 2-year break from acting to focus on music but ended up making songs with various artists instead
- 👩❤️👨 The actress reveals she's dating an award-winning director who directed her intimate scenes in the Adulting show
- 🎭 She advocates for intimacy coaches on sets to facilitate discussions around consent and comfort with intimate scenes
- 📺 She promotes her new detective show RAA airing on Thursdays which she contrasts to Adulting
- 💰 The guests discuss the shortcut culture in transactional relationships and sex work
- 🤔 They critique how social media warps youth aspirations and relationships standards
- 😣 The actress refuses to divulge private details around past relationships with Trevor Noah and a famous married actor
- ❤️ She expresses concern around human rights violations and exploitation of children for mining cobalt in Congo
- 🗳️ When asked about elections and politics, she abstains from stating any allegiance but wishes people would vote more
Q & A
What was the context behind Sam going to her old primary school?
-Sam was driving past her old primary school one day and had the idea to go inside to see if her name was still on any of the boards or plaques, since she attended school there when she was younger.
What prevented Sam from going inside the school?
-The school was closed when Sam tried to go inside, so she was unable to enter and look for evidence of her name.
What does Sam think TK would be good at, performance-wise?
-Sam thinks TK is very funny based on his performance in the Shaka role, and suggests he should try comedy next since she believes he would excel at it.
How does Sam describe the dynamic between her character Minky and Moonchild's character on Adulting?
-Sam says she and Moonchild's characters were best friends on the show. However, based on Sam's reluctant answers, it seems they may no longer be as close in real life now.
What is Sam's perspective on feminism and women's sexual autonomy?
-Sam believes that modern feminism and independence ideas are actually part of an agenda to emasculate both black men and women. However, she does support women having autonomy over their bodies and sexuality.
What does Sam think drives young people to take shortcuts and sell their bodies?
-Sam believes high unemployment plus overstimulation from social media depicting luxury lifestyles leads youths to want quick money even through sex work rather than working long hours in real jobs.
How did Sam's boyfriend end up directing her in sex scenes for Adulting?
-Sam's boyfriend is an award-winning director she was already dating during her acting break. When she returned and got the Adulting role requiring sex scenes, he ended up being assigned to direct those scenes.
Who is the Hollywood actor Sam had a fling with?
-Sam refuses to name the actor to avoid revealing his identity. She only shares that he is a well-known British lead who plays Americans and is now married.
What does Sam want people to know about her connection to Trevor Noah?
-There is no story between them. Sam simply declined an advance from Trevor in the past because she was already dating someone else at the time.
What is Sam's perspective on the conflict in Congo?
-Sam is very concerned about the extreme violence and injustice happening in Congo, especially toward women and children. She wants more intervention to protect innocents.
Outlines
😊 Nostalgic visit to primary school
She recently drove by her old primary school to see if her name was still on the awards boards, but the school was closed so she could not go inside.
😆 Reminiscing about past podcast episode
She recalls being a guest on episode 17 of the podcast before there was a regular production crew. She and the host were flirting like exes with sexual tension.
😂 Requesting guest to share funny Trevor Noah story
The host urges the guest to share a supposedly amusing story about Trevor Noah despite her reluctance.
🤩 Actors' intimacy precautions explained
She explains the safety precautions like intimacy coordinators and minimal nudity guarantees that actors can request during sex scenes to make sure no boundaries are crossed.
😊 Encouraging fans of her 'Adulting' character to also watch her in 'Raaka'
She promotes her lead role as a detective in the police drama series 'Raaka', encouraging her fans from 'Adulting' to watch the show if they enjoy crime series.
😏 Coy about past intimate encounter
She vaguely alludes to an intimate encounter with an unnamed Hollywood actor but refuses to provide any specific identifying details.
😌 Philosophical takes on transactional dating culture
She shares philosophical takes on feminism, patriarchy, gender roles, opportunism, and other social theories related to transactional intimate relationships.
😕 Disappointment with apathetic Gen Z workforce
They express disappointment about reports that Gen Z displays a poor work ethic and lack of motivation compared to previous generations.
🤔 Speculates about private celebrity parties
They speculate lightheartedly about whether some celebrities host secret private parties, although she clarifies that she herself just has innocent children's parties.
😶 Tight-lipped about Trevor Noah dating rumors
Despite the host's prodding, she refuses to comment on rumors of romantic history with Trevor Noah.
☺️ Grateful for acting career blessings
She credits her acting success to blessings from her ancestors, for whom she had a thanksgiving ceremony.
😠 Responds to tabloid gossip item
She vents irritation over a tabloid gossip item about her owing someone money, clarifying details to defend herself.
😊 Currently excited about mystery streaming project
She shares excitement about an upcoming streaming project that she cannot reveal details about yet as she prepares for the first script reading.
😕 Estranged from 'Adulting' costar Moonchild
When asked, her coy response reveals that she is no longer as close with her 'Adulting' costar Moonchild Sanelly as they used to be.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡podcast
💡interview
💡actress
💡adulting
💡feminism
💡Congo
💡sex industry
💡elections
💡trauma
💡friendship
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Transcripts
to to to Old Primary School the other
day like on Monday I know I was driving
past I was like oh let me go inside
to see if my name is still in the boards
yeah yeah yeah I was closed so I
couldn't go
inside is this T yes that's T my
goodness I haven't seen this one so
funny and I feel like the next thing he
should show us is a comedy I think he
would do amazing I'm telling you cuz he
killed Shaka bro he killed Shaka no in
his
P they there
[Laughter]
[Applause]
they please tell everyone about the
Trevor NOA story no come on what was the
Trevor NOA
please
please
[Music]
[Music]
yeah what what you guys talking about
about the what no I wasn't oh what were
what were you asking for oh man it was a
joke come on she so remember you asked
for my cup yes and so um he already had
three cups and gave me one yeah so I
gave her one then now I'm left for two
cups you asked for one cup then I was
like you mixing up with my Double Cup
Swag yeah so I said ah have you seen how
many cups scbs are holdes yes and then I
was like I'm a
cup wow
H is in good no man I'm a cop come on
but what is this thing that you have
there oh B Bon P cuz he was also saying
that uh Gaba
has but mine is old it's it's hairless
now okay has no more hair how do you how
do you get that like what do you have to
do to get that um a traditional ceremony
uh mine was just for Thanksgiving oh
nice beautiful yeah I was just thankful
for it's
important yeah and the blessings teasing
my ancestors nice how long
ago um I think it was the December of
2022 yeah damn you've had that for for
almost over a year now yeah it takes
quite a long time to First
it yes and then it has to fall off so it
has to find its own like I don't know if
you can touch it like weak
spots wow so it's probably going to fall
off from there yeah yeah and you can't
uh take it off like we have to have it
on yeah it has to fall off wow yeah I
don't know is that like a Zulu culture
cuz we don't do that in vend I don't
know if we do actually no I haven't seen
people in Venda do it it's more
like yeah mostly I'ma and I'm Zulu so so
you should have one I've never had one
ever in my
life you know but yeah it's not in my
yeah I was about to say maybe they just
don't do
it they do there's
different
[Music]
Vibes you know so it's different um it's
different but some would Sayer I
remember I was listening to someone's
interview s explained it you know that
now others but the dialect is the same I
think but is the cultures aren't yeah I
think with the divisions of the tribes
within
the yes so we also have our own stuff
true true yeah so is it a better woman
like if it falls at a certain time let's
say it falls having no it doesn't matter
it doesn't matter when it
falls oh it can lose oh it
can
oh my God oh my
God that intentional though ladies and
Gentlemen please welcome back one of the
OG she's an OG Chiller bro even before
you knew what the podcast and chill is
all about she
was shout out we did uh episode 17
together cheers before we had a producer
before we had ghost lady a crew
literally we shot it at cotton Lounge in
in in in Brinston orever it is amazing
it was me her and I think cat master was
the the guy the video guy
C catastrophic shots if you go back and
see them shout out to cat Master you're
going to watch that episode me and her
were flirting like a you
could swear we were exes dude the sexual
tension yeah how did you guys get rid of
it
like
you late I'm married now I'm married oh
no oh no
oh who me and and I found out during
that interview that we went to the same
Primary
School oh yeah that green primary school
I actually went to to to Old Primary
School the other day like on Monday I
know I was driving past I was like oh
let me go inside to see if my name
is still in the boards yeah yeah yeah
yeah I was close so I couldn't go inside
what's your name meaning it was not
there oh please tell them wasn't it
sucer
everything play
rugby I think oh no no Cricket I'm lying
yeah Victor lorum I was there my name is
there what's victori you would know if
you went there is it a school no it's
like a special award yeah for special
kids
yeah like how
special special special needs no or
special a good special yeah like you're
just so good at
everything like come louder it's like
come louder what you one of those kids
who did tennis rugby Cricket toen black
boy yeah what happened I met alcohol you
don't have to lie for him no for real
like
really had a bunch of white
friends Dean Dean my best friend he's
now um he's a gambler so he's like one
of the best gamblers in the in the world
yeah so he travels All Around the World
in
Vegas
good Champion something Money Maker the
funny surname is that you could poker I
am I am uh my boyfriend told me and in
fact before that he was really like you
know into it and I was always
like um and then he was like you'd
actually actually be so good at this and
I said why he said cuz you're an actress
and I said okay I don't get it and when
he and explained the game to me and I
played my first round I took the table
wow yeah and then he was like H maybe
it's bner like and then I kept playing
and winning is he a good poker he player
he is he is he is yeah yeah and I was
playing with like a bunch of guys I
don't know wow but that makes sense cuz
you're an actress poker
face so that's why he was like you'd
actually kill cuz it's about yeah what
does it entail it's about kind of so
whatever cards you have yeah against the
cards that are on the table um are are
going to be your final cards right so um
you could have a royal
flash uh doubles or
[Applause]
whatever oh hey knock hey KN music we
see
you okay I would say anything um uh no
no no not like that
so it so it's about tricking everybody
else into thinking that you either have
a good hand or a bad hand yeah so if you
have a good hand it's likely that you'll
try to make it seem like you don't have
a good hand so that everybody else bets
cuz the more they bet the more money you
take
home so I can just be like oh G Roy
flash flash yeah that's dope man yeah
all right play a cool game with you um
we going to we got a TV screen in the
studio here I see so we're going to play
an episode of uh adulting and every time
they have sex you have to take a
shot please can it be the episode with
the most sex I should have left my C
home don't worry one of us will will
drive you home hey what was going what
was going what was going on with with
this season bro you guys are
like every five minutes
bro I think it's a very revolutionary
show in that and this is not a plug yeah
yeah um I I took it on because I think
it's a revolutionary show because we
don't get to see ourselves like that
very often yeah and in in cinema if you
look at the history of Cinema as
well it took like 50 or 100 years for
black people to just be lit right or to
have the correct makeup he's trying to
say something sorry am I am I moving
around the Ming and stuff just going how
many times I'm going to stay here yeah
so like that perfect sorry about so um
as I was saying in cinema it took about
like a 100 years for for black artists
so black actors to just be lit right you
know lighting somebody with lighter skin
than you is different to lighting
somebody with skin like mine and yours
true true true and um I think we all
have probably our first porn or sing sex
on TV memories are white people yes
Emanuel yeah yes
about 2000
hour so I think it's revolutionary in
that it's putting a mirror to society
and saying hey guys look at yourself
we've lit you well we've shot it classy
we've gave you given you a script and
here you are that's you this is how you
and it's also a reflection of
society because we do a lot a lot
yeah a lot a lot like it's not a j like
sometimes I see I be lurking on Twitter
I'm not Twitter but some times I be
lurking sure and primarily because of
adulting but I I saw there was like an
episode where everyone was like too much
sex too much sex too
muche because
guys
we but some of those scenes look real
man they do it's because we're really
good actors
yes s now is that my closeup weren't you
scared to do um a sex SC because it
might taint you being a thespian of some
sort No in fact it solidifies me uh
because if if if the role is not scary
enough I'm not going to take it oh wow
um minky scared me throughout
shoot uh I couldn't sh gum offset
because every time I would be
like immediately I'd
go and I'm like minky go go minky
stay on set
right so for me it was scary when they
first sent it to me I was like you guys
want me to play this really they want me
to play this I said to my agent are you
sure it's this girl not this one she
said that one and I did my character
research and I said oh I get her the sex
on the other hand ah this isn't the
episode they should have been
already man like come
on that's funny F days
P um oh before you finish you were
saying's got a rider that says he can't
have sex no no no everyone has a rider
yeah what is that so so now like kids
are likey today like before when I was
acting like 14 years ago
if the scene says you guys are kissing
or you guys are going to simulate like
you guys are going to roll around under
the blankets and then we're going to cut
to like the roof and we'll give the
viewer the idea that you guys are
getting it off right and then they cut
to the next scene yeah
yeah in or if he goes overboard you have
to be the one to say stop it ah got you
right were
no well
technically why is that F it's
funny you know why oh it's
not is this yes that's oh my goodness I
Haven seen this
one short damn what position was that
it's so I want to tell tell you uh
something that people don't know about
that specific shot that specific sex
position and that scene so oh son there
we go short
short he hey I want to try that position
do you see that
[Laughter]
wow oh man not bad F you like get
it I said it's not
bad and I was I was talking I talking to
the aftertaste no I'm not saying it's
like whatever I was just talking to the
to the the effect of a shot of
Jen have I never seen you a
grand J before no oh no that's up
got fix that she's an OG man that's
up man y my love don't worry I'll
deliver it myself yes I tell ah
in what
[Laughter]
position okay let's not get too excited
all right let's go back yes so I was
talking about this specific scene yes um
it was actually a homage to um do you
remember baby boy yes by tyes tyes my
you that one yes you don't remember the
scene where his mom mom was having sex
with that guy and he was squatting her
across the the living room wow yeah so
the director was like let me give them
let me this is saying to them Yo guys
that's sin here it is again wow wow man
so before that we're talking about the
writers the writers writers yes oh thank
you ghost
lady um so yes I was saying so I was
still trying to explain back then you
would just have to do it and there'd be
no one and said and the director would
be like okay so you guys kiss
or he says yeah so you mount him and
then like nobody used to care until like
a lot of like sexual harassment things
came up um in the industry like maybe
some uh woman would come out and say Hey
you sexually harassed me two years ago
when we were on set you made my job very
difficult blah blah blah so SAR bletcher
a very famous uh director female and
South Africa she opened this company
called Swift and they are intimacy
coaches so she trains people to become
intimacy coaches and what they do is
that they come on sets and they get
you I I could never get through a
conversation Swift move
along so um they come onto
set Jesus sound dirty no they come onto
set yeah they don't come on
Set uh so they come on set and they um
basically coach you
guys so let's say it's between me and
Mac yeah
MH we do a few exercises in her presence
apart from the director nobody's there
and we talk about which part of our
bodies are green zone and what are red
zones and then um the director also
requires an intimacy riter so that he
can tell the so the intimacy writer will
say hey I'm not comfortable showing my
stomach uh no bum got you no side boob
not under boob but top boob you can show
nipple uh can show my butt from the top
and they take that writer and they give
it to the director that the director now
has the opport Unity to talk to the
cinematographer to say hey when you're
shooting this make sure you don't get
this and this and this and this and this
in shot so your side cheek is a green
zone yes cuz that's we saw my whole butt
is a green zone your boobs were not I
wanted you to actually um the cut I saw
before did show my tits because there's
a there's a part where he lifts my shirt
and
he uh sucks on my nipple yeah yeah wow
you another one
which one is this one which is this
one can yeah with another um his actual
girlfriend another Trade Me Oh that the
girlfriend on on the that's the actual
girlfriend don't put too
much so the SC that we're seeing is it
actually the actors themselves or was
it
okay
[Music]
so if your if your if your tits were
green zone why why didn't you see them
um that scene was very long so in
cutting it they cut a certain part out
um cuz it was very long cuz I think you
saw it it's the beginning of episode
5 he's on top of me and then he's behind
me then I flip him over and I'm on top
of him
so that takes a lot of setups takes like
two hours to do if if you've got like
professional actors so these guys come
on to say they give us garments to wear
so I'm dressed in a thing you don't see
it it's called a t- string so it's like
a g string but it doesn't have the sides
oh wow but it gets stuck here with like
gaffer tape oh and then it gets stuck on
the back as well and then he's wearing a
penis sock is so funny but it works so
that that uh the shulu ones the
ones oh
oh so so it will not allow them to have
an erection absolutely
not yeah
we had um we had um who's the white guy
who
produces Angus Gibson he discovered me
oh for real wow how how did that happen
um I wasn't even meant to be an actress
I was studying directing and writing at
aftera and um he saw me um outside of a
like a sh place in
Norwood
I was on the
phone annoyed at
someone and he was just staring and I
thought he was just a white
guy and he came to me and he said hey
this is what I do you know you have a
very interesting face wow um what are
you doing I said I'm I'm learning to be
a director and a film writer wow he said
that's funny because blah blah blah blah
blah and I said oh you guys made Yoo he
said yes I didn't believe him I didn't
believe it was him and he gave me his
card I never called him wow um wow I
think about a year
later when I found an agent also by
chance didn't want to be signed she
signed
me I don't think you can act but you're
very pretty so I'll sign you wow I see
okay good go off um she sent me
there he wasn't there but he saw my tape
and he remembered he said this is that
girl I was talking yeah that's why you
to had a ceremony for your ancestors
they working over time they are working
over time yeah amazing you're studying
directing or like you're in the film
space why wouldn't you call a guy who
just gave you a card and you can see
he's a part of a production company
that's I wasn't interested in
acting I think it was my second year as
a director and the thing is at that time
before after changed their syllabus to
what it is now it was boot camp
we were all
thin another
[Applause]
one no guys you guys
rewinded want to be you no I want to be
you look I want to be you I want to be
him I want to be you
bro not
him oh yeah his father's dying yeah oh
and he's doing so
like shulu
aside on on adulting especially on that
party that that he had at his house he
is so amazing with the the way that he
uses his tools as an actor that like I'm
amazed like I remember that day we were
all very tired it was a long day and we
had to wait till like it got dark so
that we could shoot blah blah blah you
know the way it works and I said to him
he's a rehydrate
two seconds later he came back and he
had already been starting to channel his
character so his character in the
SC so when we find him it must be this
rasle and
he I couldn't stop laughing I think I
corpsed in every scene had to help me is
the guy who plays TI tii yeah he'd
literally have to like hug me because
I'm dying he is so funny and I feel like
the next thing he should show us is a
comedy I think he would do amazing I'm
telling you cuz he killed Shaka bro he
killed Shaka
no yeah true
story who's the chck
here wow but he's amazing man he's
amazing he is so funny and if you go
back and watch some
episodes they were at's party and the
wife came in's wife came in and she
found a be's girlfriend there and then
she was like oh she did like a girly
thing she's like let's go get drinks and
leave these boys here right so as she
was walking away he drunkenly said oh
mama mama
and then he took the bottle and he
went and I I a comedy please if you're
watching the strip club I
remember oh my God cuz the last time the
last time I saw you it was you were with
tles at the garage remember Rose yes
they had just finished shooting um
Outlaws yes um and I happened to be
there
because
um
[Laughter]
[Applause]
[Laughter]
wow please be a gentleman let me do it
oh yeah yeah yeah I don't have nails but
it's
fine I'm old news cuz I was in episode
70 I'm old news now okay we'll revisit
that thank you sir you're welcome yes
yes yeah so you there okay cool
yeah is this my shot no no no they
haven't had a SE scene in a
while drink from the
last did you drink from the last SE I
did oh I didn't I was yapping away I was
yapping let's be honest let's be honest
the guys we had them here they were
sitting right here remember wise men we
had wise men and and they didn't tell us
the truth but let's be honest how much
ass are those
[Applause]
getting they the guys
country I I haven't oh I have with out
with wise man and CU he was at the
launch of Outlaws and then we all went
together but I've been out with more
um and
uh how I I
I I have no uh recollection recollection
buffering
iove I did not
prove
so the reason why I was mentioning Angus
when we interviewed him he said um so I
guess it's probably part of a rider he
said who was playing shaka's
mother
thingy so the SE SC she had with Shaka
there was a a scene where they showed
her butt okay and she didn't want it out
there he was going to put it out there
and then she asked for it to be removed
yeah so I guess it was part of like the
rider situation they didn't have an
intimacy coach on Shaga oh oh yeah they
probably would have never shot and SAR
bler is like strict she wants she she'll
come to you
every every five minutes are you okay
comfortable is your garment sitting all
right beautiful your boobs are is
everything fine are you all right my
dick is strapped in I'm fine are you
okay nothing not sweating off the the
glue you're good I'm good okay so um
they didn't have an intimacy coach on
Shaga so those were conversations that
actors needed to actively have with
production and and directors
you okay you were about to say something
about remember oh yeah so he's you never
see him having sex like they always cut
away yeah they do that's his Pur and he
loves the sex and mrj he
mrj mrj
you never have see them no they always
cut away in bed and it's always like
action kissing grabing ass and then they
twirl around on the bed and then cut is
he married yes with two kids I think
yeah oh just like an
adult oh wow three kids now adulting
well art imitates
life yeah yeah yeah what is one of the
thing about adulting that cuz you work
there uh that we don't know like
something
interesting like behind the scenes or
something H me it was like every other
set I just appreciate being
around but um cheda is a beautifully
oiled machine and I've always wanted to
work with uh cheda I respect p a lot as
well as Gan Bon they are amazing writers
they've shaped um the modern uh space of
Television so wild
and um I don't know if I have anything
to tell you about the set it
was pretty much another set I was just
walking around nervous the whole
time yeah yeah um why
though she's
uh she's a different archetype that I've
than I've ever played uh and I had to be
one with her choices so
much because more than anything thing
the first thing I do when I read a
character and I try to embody her is
that I don't judge her MH for whatever
choices that she makes because once I
judge her I involve myself and and and
then it's actually a it's away from me I
actually go to work to forget
myself
so what what happened I'm sorry t t I
just heard oh oh yeah no we all drunkers
so
oh to to that to to that to to that
that's the one I'll send you Peach and
mango lovely
[Laughter]
myself oh but there's also a deflated
miniature Pilates ball between
us you know Pilates big ball that you g
with so there's a miniature one there's
a miniature one that
you if someone gets
[Music]
anerection my your thing is stried I'm
wearing a a thong with a thick sponge on
it so that our thingies don't ever meet
there's a ball in front of us and
there's a lady in the
room who's busy going as soon as the
Director calls cat she runs to us with
gowns oh and with all that you can still
choose to be like on PO and not do sex
scenes cuz it sounds like even if you're
married you literally my wife told me
that and I'll be like oh okay that
sounds safe go ahead do the sex scenes
yeah I think with just different as as
as as thespians and I think we're just
different with how much of ourselves
that we are willing to give to the
profession and I think it also comes
with years of Prof of of experience and
years of practice um
I'm I've according to me on South
African television I've B it
all uh I've I've B the ugly parts of me
I've I've B the nice parts of me I've B
the insecure parts of me I've I've B it
all so what's a tit did you ever
witness any coach costing like during
your days that's a good one I didn't
hear that one hey I need to watch TI for
tax tit for tax
I
[Laughter]
that's did you ever witness any couch
casting like for example you're working
on a set and you see someone you can see
no this one shouldn't be here definitely
suck some dick to get you oh like did
that ever happened no I'm asking yeah yo
um so so this is what I want to explain
that the couch casting thing was kind of
only
valid probably like 5 years ago and
backing going back because of the
structure of the way television is made
um before that as a director I could
decide who I want to play this role and
and nobody else can like not even the
channel can say no oh power as the
Director so that's why directors had the
power to say
so it's not like that anymore it's not
like that anymore no because it's
changed good it's changed because of the
structure as soon as streaming things
came in clients now are part of clients
being the channels and the distribut
show hey another one who's this this
is end just oh but he gets to grab bmbs
though yeah he grabs bums lifts them up
and he's out and he's yeah and he's
still dressed he's still dressed still
dressed ah this one he takes giving
Zimbabwe this one can you see the
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[Applause]
blurry I need another sorry worries
you don't that one doesn't deserve a
shot
actually that's a sex it's a sex it's a
sex sexy no s is the producer of this
show so whatever he say yeah cuz you'll
close your kids eyes when that comes on
you not like you're going to go kids
come true come see SE you're right
you're right sexy oh yeah I put a
delting on the other time and my help
was cleaning I felt uncomfortable for
her feel uncomfortable well she bend it
over
it Shame Shame o yes yes so so so so so
so now it's changed yes yes okay so now
it's changed it's not the same like you
can't
if you were directing a show for
multichoice
MH even if you you can say oh I
suggest and
Jess
um um it's your suggestion it's it's not
the final say cuz there's still another
influence there's a room full of people
who are deciding I in you're not even
you're not even invited yeah good
she's big onv or she's big
onc another
one it's a previously
on a recap it's a recap it's previously
oh previously on we're on the next
episode
now talking that
long but we're loving it so a director
then doesn't have the power no that's
beautiful so how would you feel like you
worked hard like you're there cuz you
you deserve to be there cuz of your
craft right who's this
now Timmy oh yeah yeah
yeah no it's not that scene he's already
here I think then you you sing someone
you're like ah this what is giving Z how
do you feel though like as someone who
worked hard to be where you are oh I
mind my own business yeah I mind my own
business I'm so you did see people where
you're like ah this one
we the main at 1:00 in the morning
pering two
characters no
fly look um to answer your
question y look dirty man so
fake and I know you know this cuz you're
from Radio yeah so I know you know a lot
about like cting couch and you know a
lot about like uh EXC it was normal in
our time bro it was like in my time I've
experienced cting cush before and I
remember running out of the
sac my agent was stress it was a mess
now you can pause it it's fine I think
we get the deal wait so someone like
tried to C couch cost you yeah and it
was strange cuz I was very
young and I wasn't like desperate for it
or anything
um it was just a very
sketchy deal like from from the get-go
and then by the time I realized what was
happening um do you care to tell who was
it oh are they still 100% not wait for
my book one day darling are they still
that they say PC though cuz you said of
course they're still there and I you
know what I would love to carry the load
and tell everybody who it is so that I
can save other girls
but and I've got my own things I'm
dealing with of course um yeah curing
couch is is a valid thing from that time
now casting couch if it happens it's
happening from like top top top level
like now you must these girls are now or
guys are now
fetching like those ones who are sitting
in that room deciding yeah the short
about you the ones above the director
Chanel 100% commissioning
editor cuz it's director and directors
inside the umbrella of production
company production company is being
by Channel by
Channel yeah yeah makes sense those
are chowing bro which brings me
to
[Laughter]
my how can they tell
yeah that's a Dr podcast though we just
walk
around I'm saying nothing about thec I'm
saying nothing it happened to me once
and never
again I put it out
there uh I don't know if you guys know a
guy called papai do you guys know a guy
called papai no no man I think they've
been trending yeah on Zone 14 the
characters that's those are the
characters buy SP for buying spinach I
worked with them yeah I was on Zone 14
listen to this that's when Angus the
thing yeah so listen to this story papay
revealed in a podcast this week that a
production house bomb Productions stole
the scripts or an idea of the drama
series zone 14 and left him behind but
by says he and his friend Tammy are the
real owners of the concept of Zone
14 what you got to say about that whoa y
it was what it was the friendo then took
it to oh the friend stole so oh so bomb
didn't steal it so bomb didn't steal it
yeah oh the FR stole it and took it
would steal anything yeah they have
awesome writers on their on their things
yeah I've never heard
anything yeah sounds basically story
this is something new there was three
yeah they said this on a podcast yeah
yeah
yeah just to build cont there three of
them so the two played Bai and spinach
so the third person we do not know who
it is was the one who took the the play
and basically televised it wow
wow according to them there a lot of
stories just their word yes this is a
leged yeah yeah cuz I know the writers
were what do do is it what what do do
and cuz I saw film P saying no but we
know the writers of Zone 14 and it
couldn't have been these guys just find
their tweet please I think it's
informative uh what's your take what's
your take on that
um I
don't I have worked with the bom and I
respect the bom I don't see why they
would steal anything and I understand
that that's not what happened it was
somebody else who stole it and then gave
it to the bomb but at the same time like
they have like writers who developed
their own stories and their own scripts
so I don't see why they would just and I
find it trick take something from
outside I find it tricky because like so
that's not even their method of taking
stuff they create the
stuff look I'm not saying it's a
detective even though I play one you
8:00 p.m. on
every
Thursday no no but it's Val what you
saying you've worked with bomb so if
yeah
yeah it's a very well oiled
ship
look story and there is some truth to it
I feel guy maybe they should follow
maybe some legal uh uh Roots yeah to
solving this problem because the rest of
us really can't do anything about it you
can tell us on a podcast but we really
can't do anything about it
I find it difficult when like for
example let's use this podcast for
example right if someone sends an email
and they're like hey I think it would be
a great idea to start a sports podcast
yeah and then that's already in the
pipeline it's something that we are
going to do and then it comes out like
maybe a month or two months after they
suggest after they you just have to
prove it you just have to prove with a
paper trail that you have been in
pre-production before this person's book
oh but even if you don't man it's like
it's a it's a basic idea should have go
to go to court you have to be able to
prove it with a paper trail to say but
can't you also prove that it's not a
unique idea I've had an idea of mine
stolen like jeez when and it was a it
was a thing and I was just telling this
guy we have having burgers in K Town and
I told him the story and he made the
thing wow and then tried to cast me in
it
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wow tried to pass me in it but not even
as the lead yeah Y and I was like it's
got to be a white person that's no it's
actually not
whoa yeah watch the
show Friends like I can't do it one day
I will write a I
will when I write the book or the movie
or or the documentary I will come back
and give you an exclusive G so having
gone through that what's the best way to
protect an idea then the best way to
protect an idea legally and the best way
is to copyright it but that's that cost
like 60,000 just to copyright an idea
and make it yours so the the other way
is to do it the oldfashioned way to post
it to yourself email no by actual post
oh oh you post yeah like go to the Post
Office and post it to yourself so the
whole idea the the whole idea the whole
script the yeah the treatments the the
how you going to treat it the Wardrobe
the makeup the whatever put it all in a
brown envelope and go post it to
yourself and bring it back the law will
recognize that as something that already
existed um because there's a paper trail
that's the oldfashioned way wow email
doesn't work at all I think it can work
now it's just that when I was at school
this is what they taught me okay they it
to yourself what if um you have this
idea then um 5 years down the line you
see it happens and it's not like you
spoke to someone so even if you posted
it to yourself it's not like they saw it
well the thing with ideas I believe that
ideas are live
things and I believe that ideas choose
us M and if they can choose a lot of
people also no they choose you now and
if you don't do anything about it it
leaves okay
good that's what I believe cuz I've I've
seen my own like ideas out there and I'm
like hey I thought of that yeah it's
like now they in post prod even
what do women what do women got to do
think about it's like woman if she
chooses you and you don't do
anything okay she'll be in
postproduction in someone else's this is
true she'll be marketing
F marketing hey not even post for not
even post marketing the movie is now
[Laughter]
out we invited to the wedding invited to
the wedding or not she intimacy Rider
yeah
so she's someone's intimacy Rider
wow it is what it is Ghost lady what you
got for us man from a paba so I have
this other of my Pap have they ever
written about you bad stuff is it what
did they
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say like I don't think I'm a friend of
the page yeah how do you how do you know
it's bad if you don't know what they
wrote because like people will be like
oh look at this and what was it what
were we looking what was it like like
they'll perpetuate
like like a tabloid rumor okay like
they'll perpetuate it they'll be like oh
this is happening and she did this but
they'll never be like hey do you have a
comment can you say anything like like
tblo will actually call you Tablo will
call you and they'll say I'm writing it
already but don't they tag you in the
story so that maybe you can actually
come back and say no this is wrong
them like I think I blocked them so I
don't think they can I don't know what
lies with this spr what yeah what did
they say cuz you like you got a clean
image bro I've never seen anything bad
about some kid yeah there's been like um
there some guy who said I owed him
12,000
Rands uh he's a DJ but like uh it wasn't
like so everyone was like oh you costed
12,000 I'm like no no no no no um I was
working for a club at the time remotely
helping them with their lineups so I was
I was booking DJs DJs and and and
artists because these are people in my
industry and I know them and so they can
give me a better rate than some guys
they don't know my name is true true
true so I was doing that and he wanted
to do his birthday at this specific
place and I said come and blah blah blah
and there was a mixup that happened with
the
finances and I took on the load I said
it's fine
I'll pay you it's okay but then it took
a bit longer than I thought cuz it was
12,000 R and I'm a mom so then the story
is true then that I owed him it's the
club but you took on the responsibility
to him yes I did and and
and it it unfolded
rather unpleasantly yeah it could have
definitely been solved between the two
of us and um so they ran with it they I
think they posted me like four times
that day who was the DJ I'd rather not
oh okay you'll see it online yeah and
they like every time I do like nice
stuff or like good stuff or like even if
I look good they'll never be like oh
this was some 20 minutes ago ah but
people don't care about that you know
they do but they write Stu like doesn't
get clicks all I'm saying is that they
write about stuff like that right so
they'll be like oh this was whoever
whoever 20 minutes ago or 15 minutes ago
or hey look at this person they bought
this or they got a new gig at doing
this but with me they're very like when
like good stuff happens as soon as
anybody says anything bad like that
thing with that other girl the one that
says she raps who who's that now who's
that no damn no
mus yeah when that happened they
were like boom boom boom boom yeah yeah
yeah yeah they were posting clips of my
life and they were and at that time at
least it wasn't like a bad thing towards
me because I was the victim I had the
drink thrown at me and I was just
ranting on
it so they were yeah so and and and I
like them they they they they they um I
like that they donate to schools with
the school shoes and stuff and I wanted
to help as well I wanted to get my
Foundation to help them as well let's
donate some shoes to faway man but it's
cool they don't need
them that's your
primary they need a karate
kiss or ballet
neard anyway what you got for us gohost
lady so this's this story I got right
and it says um the fail to pay a
girl oh you know the
story you know the story as
a that's what I'm saying okay okay okay
and I like him like like I find him like
a little it's like a toxic thing of mine
I'm like I hate Mula cuz he wrote
that about me
[Laughter]
but guess who's losing weight for the
100
time like I'm entertained but at the
same time when it's me I'm like is oh
that's painful
man it comes with the territory man yeah
it comes with the territory it does it
does but maybe you can Enlighten us cuz
there's some questions here it sounds
like the same story just different
exactly this one is 600 600 yeah yeah
this one is 600 100 100 but I love you
Laz yeah okay all right he failed to pay
a girl 600 R and the girl went crying to
paba with evidence that the rapper was
lying daily saying he's going to pay or
well he's going to go to the ATM and
deposit the money right after being
exposed the rapper um paid the girl in
fool and then um now the sto the
question is is the guy broke what's
going on and what are these girls doing
for him no man a know where the Ellas is
broke cuz you can't afford 600
bucks why did it take okay why did it
take for the girl to go to my paba and
then only then then he pays up right so
CU that's another thing why take
communication the same like
after that's why okay Enlighten us on
this but then I didn't give it all to
him oh okay I paid all the DJs so that
12K was for all the DJs that played at
his birthday gig that he wanted at my
club so in the end he only got 3K have
you been to D's parties or something
like yeah he's he's over the years he's
he's been yeah I've been to I went last
year I was wearing such thick hooker
heels why I've never been invited to
what happens I'll take you next time wow
what goes on there I get some PDD Vibes
there no it's just a putty no ways
there's no rooms that you can't access
and
his his children are the children are
there the oh so the one that I went to
last year um I think it's because he was
still shooting Love and& Hip Hop okay so
there were cameras so he did have like
family members there MH and like a few
class members from the
thing but it's a party bottles around
the swimming pool white couches white
things white
clothes um and then we all go home then
it's cheers and then we all go home a
out of
here if there's more I was the girl that
they
said
K would you be shocked if it came out
right let's say next week they would to
say the L's all white parties that P
didy used to happen there would you
be shocked
but exclusive parties that only have a
particular list of people invited it's
industry people ah nah I wouldn't be no
that's not fair because I do that like I
have so I have an annual uh
party uh for my birthday so my birthday
is on the 31st of December oh wow but I
can't always expect my friends to like
like change their New Year's plans for
me so I often do my party on the week
before Christmas before people go away
for Christmas holidays okay so this
party is different to the party that I
would have on the 31st that one is going
to be
for or if if I'm ever right so this
party is like a play date it's called a
play date you guys are invited to the
next one so what we do is that like and
it was I remember it trended on Twitter
some other time ago and people were like
I want a party like this so my party is
really cool so it started as me being
afraid to like grow up I was turning 30
yeah yeah yeah
like like can I be a kid so I have
jumping castles mermaids in the pool
Street
paint Bowl I have a ice cream machine
that shows up and like adults are like
oh my God is this for us tamis T no I
wish I had
tamis buy me tamis stuck in 995 I need
tamis playing
no so so so you are threading on thin
ice
I love9 music I love B9 music um no he's
a great producer I respect that
but I respect what happened to the music
cuz the last episode we did together you
said you were going to release music I
did but then I I went on that
break right afterwards um so I took a
break I had been acting for like 14
years wow without a break yeah uh I used
to think that I would go crazy without
acting and then I was like I need to
like KN you had made enough money to go
on a break for two years without any
pict so I had planned for a year but
then GTI it was like I felt Co in my
blood so that year didn't count and then
the next year when my agent was like so
so sorry you're coming back are coming
back I said no Co year doesn't count I
need another year do you think that it's
a good idea as creatives like to just go
it's an extremely good idea I am
Testament to it watch my work now you
came with the bag back the B look at my
work now like it's it's it's Top Notch
thank you it's a real thing like um we
we need we need M you know creatives
deserve the space and time to do nothing
ooh to roam around aimless ly and do
nothing but can they afford experience
they AF to plan for it just plan for it
if I'm able to plan for it with a kid
then you can do it
too yes it is a it might be a luxury for
for some people who are living from
paycheck to paycheck which I was too but
it takes some planning and you took a
break look at you now no he lost
December look at you now he lost not
December not December not December when
was the last time you were on radio oh
that wasn't plann that wasn't pln but it
was no no no she's right a
break take a break oh yes cuz I was I
wasn't going to do it myself and look
how I came back
exact I get you
oh a lot of growth happens there a lot
of growth happens so the with creatives
we we oh yeah Sal also we drink a
lot
yeah yeah say up I'll give you a break
take a
break um true so I did I and every time
I talk about this everyone is like I
take so much courage oh my God and I'm
like yo when I look at in hindsight that
is a lot of Courage for me to walk into
the what were you doing in those two
years what were you doing
nothing nothing so in the first year I
thought I'm G to focus on music I'm go
to then Co happened and then I just kept
ending up in like I'm a piano
studios yeah confidence I'm a
piano I have songs with anyone you can
mention right now wow no I have a song
with
por songs with I have songs with Melo
and sley
wow
where I made a qu Anthem wow
with the King Don the king Don father
wow wow wow so I thought that and then
where are they they
[Laughter]
[Applause]
there guys distribution things I might
not be like allowed cuz I haven't like
no it's fine don't worry I I haven't
like you know anyway so so so I thought
I was like okay so now that I'm taking a
break from acting let me focus on my
music this is my first Passion it's my
first love I'm going to do it I've got
pipes on me and I can do it and that
song that we released we actually made
as a
joke cuz the producer that made it is
actually a A hip-hop producer and I said
I bet you make an Amano
beat and he said say less say less he
made it and after he played it for me I
said I'm going to sing on it and I sang
jeez reason wrote we finished it
reason
and we let it out we were like let's let
it out it was very bubble gum be I know
yeah yeah yeah yeah but the gays love it
and I love the gays because you know we
love the gays too man the gays
so so so what was your favorite song
Last
year last year yeah M Nik M of course M
Nik wow n that's massive apart from M fa
to say that's a cop out M Nik what's
that don't you
[Applause]
remember hey what was your favorite
song what are you listening to right now
what are you listening to M Night by
Tyler see you I love T I also have a
song with
him I do damn
um what was my favorite song last year
if it wasn't for that oh it was Baby by
Uncle waffles and jelly baby oh I don't
know that one it
goes you don't know that song I
know so it came to me while I was deep
diving down a rabbit hole of like a 2000
culture and language because the girl
I'm playing on on adulting is how old am
I let me not say how many years young
yeah how old is minky mink is
24 for real what how old did you think
she was
what8 I'm 14 yes
yeah the thing the to you use it sounds
so like you know it's new WoW because if
I used old dll I would have never had to
like go back to the drawing board and
like try and find it so I had to like
literally take a deep dive
into
uh um and I had I had help I'm not going
to say I translated that script on my
own It Was Written in English oh sorry
oh s i It Was Written in English and I
translated it I had so much fun I was
helped by a good friend of mine who's
also an actor but he hasn't acted in a
very long time he's in business
now uh so he knows like so I mixed
minky's language with
like current I'm a like I'm a 2000
language with jail language oh W jail
wow yeah yeah there's a scene where
comes in and she's like what are you
guys doing in the kitchen blah blah blah
like but that word is only used in
jail so why would a 2000 know that
because it's new it's new jail language
oh and it's not like they go to jail
forever they go and they come back oh
and they influence
that's crazy man P APV is a stolen car
so when the police reported the code is
APV APV correct yeah anything else you
want to talk about my oh did you see
Prince K ended up releasing the
remix sorry sorry you asking of M Nike
no oh didn't he make can
release I is it you can't remix that
song You Can't
don't no
noix remix some remixes Man
remix was
AF he made a remix of M and he released
it after he released it literally on the
day
after
wow oh s bie tape yes oh yes yes he was
pushing the remix yes she's right didn't
he have it yeah you're right yeah like
literally the day
after so that mean he then released that
tape to get
theability Prince KB no but has he met
me ah what do you mean what do you mean
hey
[Laughter]
[Applause]
he does look like your his real name he
looks like my type n he likes big S like
that's what I'm saying I got big ass n
got a nice body though but n not like
nah man not Prince KB type no not Prince
but is he your type
though doesn't even heir where like
doesn't have dreadlocks no he cut them
cut them he cut them ages ago oh you
don't like with dreadlocks it's
funny because my my boyfriend has
St and I've seen it for so many years
like but now but now I'm like this guy
has longer dreadlocks than mine wow God
was
like what was your
type um was no hair make more money than
me oo be kind oh yeah you know you just
have to date a kind guy he can he can
have all the money in the world but if
he's not
kind even to the people around him deal
bre red flags for me are like oh we're
going on a date and he's mean to the
waiter yeah oh he's mean to yeah like we
all humans so be kind and smart you
don't have to be funny I am M so it's
okay so your current boyfriend is has it
all except for the the hair the hair and
accept because sometimes when people see
us together like a that's so funny you
guys each other hair yes this is why oh
is it who's got long dreadlocks in the
industry and makes more money than
semi he's got to be a director yeah yeah
has to be director producer
I'm
I tell you who he is but I'll tell you
because I know that one day it will it
will like come out and be
misconstrued my favorite people hey
hey I'm stepping into The
Newsroom
anyone you
need now that's how it's
done let me give let me give you a Dr r
let me give you a drum roll no
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my tell us anyway so this student sty
ladies and
gentlemen I'm not telling you a name
yeah yeah okay just tell us here we go s
this is a sound bite I know no it's a
sound bite and S is chowing who give me
my
C no
oh but the question of who I'm chowing
is
[Applause]
different someone different who's not
your boyfriend my boyfriend list me have
girlfriends wow W your boyfriend
girlriend
what a what a what a god wow
damn what a what a guy so you have you
let him join do you let him join anyway
so you asked me who my boyfriend is and
I'm not going to tell you who he is all
I'm going to tell you is that the only
reason I'm speaking about this I'll
never speak about my private life but
I'm only speaking about it right now
because I worked with him on a
doubting oh it's the award-winning
director man okay so I'm an actress
you're a director we've known each other
for years one day we decide to date it's
during my break we date and then one day
I'm like ah I'm coming back to TV one
day my agent says to me hey adulting is
asking would you do something like this
and I'm like send me a script let me see
I read it I'm
like ah it took me like a
week and then I was like okay fine I
think I know who minky is and then we
worked so we were bound to crust parts
so it's like it's like if you were
dating somebody in the industry you are
bound to inter interview them on one
date so um I'm only mentioning this
because I saw a comment somewhere on
Musa kaula saying where someone was like
oh her boyfriend begged her the adulting
role and I'm like that's funny because
I'm on an Emy nominated show called Raa
on Emet on Thursdays ATM shout
out
I'm so cool like and I'm different from
but that sure looks like it's for white
people that show it's not so this is
what I'm here to like decipher set yeah
like set the the record straight so it's
called Raa and a lot of people hear the
word Raa and they thinking
Africans guys I know I'm linguistically
gifted but
and Al so you don't speak Africans and T
even if like I was in
1976 I couldn't yeah so it's not
Africans if you enjoy shows like CSI
Miami yes or like um name another like
action like series LAPD LD 21 Jump
Streets is old as that is New York
Undercover um the one with Ice Cube
which one is the one Ice Cube that's 21
Jump Street isn't it no no no law in
order law in
order so it's like a show like that so
like all my new fans people who didn't
know that like like maybe who knew I was
an actress but never saw my work sudden
like like sa you just saw my work for
the first time on and you're saying that
I just didn't watch TV 100% and you
never saw my work so you're a new fan
right minky shout out thank you mink so
so all my new fans people who who felt
like I brought minky to life in that way
watch raika because you will enjoy
detective aanda jali which is who I play
she's a very um she's the total opposite
of minki she's a
God-fearing lady lady who fights for
justice she's got she's loyal she's
strong she's intuitive nothing gets past
her she's a detective she knows she she
knows you know what I mean and I think
you will enjoy it because if you enjoy
shows like that it's it's it's also very
psychological it's with Kim Angel uh
Gerard uh um
stain and I know guys I know
but because we are taking up space yeah
but don't you think that script is worn
out like no it's not it was written by
the amazing ran Dixon and he's he's
amazing his his script got them an emom
wow wow Kim got an emom for the first
season and this is the second season
that we are doing now and I think watch
it you know if you have emnet it's on
ketchup it's on um DV stream I don't see
why not like hey dude how do you feel in
this age where ladies are selling their
bodies for money but you actually work
for you why did I know he was going to
ask me that yeah you know me well yeah
you know me well it's a real question
it's the truth of the day cuz you're not
selling your body you selling your your
show shot man she's selling a show and
it shows not my body works for me you
know what I'm saying yeah yeah yeah yeah
it's a CRA you selling your craft a
craft yeah
yeah I need another glass yeah that's
the one why do you need a shot for this
it's a simple question it's not some G
come on it's not a simple question you
know it's not a simp you know a lot of
your that's why you're asking because
it's not simple because if you if you
knew if you knew the answer you wouldn't
ask yeah and it's
complicated because you're asking I have
my uh thoughts suspicions yeah thoughts
on on no he doesn't have suspicions of
what I think he definitely doesn't know
what's in my head no I don't know what
that's what I'm asking you but if you
were to ask me I have my idea so I want
to hear
yours is it hot for you because let us
speakly no I'm asking ask ask ask what
you going to say
see what she is in her head ghost
lady right she's trying to
Chanel No is it hard for you because you
find that a lot of your
colleagues uh all
right their body their body works for
them my colleagues yeah in your
industry oh like in the entertainment
industry not like actors or whatever
whatever cuz
explained no one can get you a role my
boyfriend is a director yes and he
directed my six scenes wow that's crazy
it is crazy damn whoa that's a mind
he directed them and I I must admit I
felt safer wow I thought I would I
thought I would feel some kind of way I
won't
lie in the first few moments when I
thought about it I was like I can't
like I can't do and say the things you
do in bed with him because he might
think that yes what I'm doing is
performative but don't you think he
would feel like if you say and do the
things you say in
bed it's like then you're not acting oh
you're paying homage no I'm acting now
now I'm acting you
called no
because
[Music]
[Music]
I must even dive even deeper and find
Mink's sexual character yes hey this
thing is deep yeah but you didn't answer
the question you're not going to run
away from that yeah we've been
podcasting too long what was the
question again yeah yeah cooking and boo
some repeat
okay
so
um like this like feminism thing I'm
going to start there right okay
cool this like feminism idea this modern
idea about
like woman being independent and
whatever whatever I think it's like a
whole trick mhm I think it's an agenda
and I think it's an agenda to emasculate
the black man and to masculate the black
woman and to have
her sorry sorry uh and to have her kind
of operating from a masculine level
doing things for herself and as a result
emasculating her partner and therefore
being
single raising kids like on their own
and then having men blaming the women
for being single mothers or blaming how
The Offspring turns out because they
were raised by single
mothers so part of the feminism
agenda kind of speaks
to you know female Liberation female
economic uh Liberation but specifically
female autonomy okay having the space
and capacity and right to make your own
choices financially physically sexually
and all that stuff I believe in it I
believe yes autonomy is definitely one
of the best ideas that feminism could
have come up with the others they kind
of speak to another agenda I don't want
to work every day I'd actually rather be
at home taking care of our kids and you
can do it stay masc and I want to stay
feminine so along the
line along the trail of over stimulation
of social media and overstimulation of
information I think the wires got
crossed and it goes back to like the
other agenda of
like new age hipop
pop where it's like my baby daddy
my baby daddy my daddy daddy I
don't my baby
daddy it goes back to I'm gonna who
I want I'm gonna do who I
want and it's this big masculine energy
that's like seeping out of these
beautiful feminine beings
hey so because men on the other side
half the time feeling
emasculated half the time being
masculine it shows up as okay fine Shar
I'll pay
you
it's oh to get the power back
ah you kid
me
so my thoughts on it are are quite vast
and like branched out yeah and I I can't
have like one answer for it I do believe
women should have sexual autonomy I
should be able to who I want sleep
with who I want to kiss who I want to
woman or man
big
but I also believe that men should be in
a position to who they want you
know too but
also
they already do
they but it's not always who they want
hey they be but it's not always
who they
want yeah yeah so so for me it's like uh
the whole
transactional
culture uh shows up to me in a
projective way someone's projecting it's
either the males or the females but
somebody is Pro projecting and it's
unhealthy because I understand I do I
get it you want to live in a space of
femininity and have your man be
masculine near you and take care of you
and pay for this and take you to 2A and
take you to wherever wherever but that's
not the reality that every single woman
in South Africa lives in that's not the
that's not the LSM that everybody's
experiencing all the demographic that
everybody lives in so then it makes it
tricky because now every girl is now
brought up in that
programming every new girl new knew they
brought up in that programming of
thinking H this is the way I can't just
give it up for nothing like where's my
V hey so why do we tiptoe around with
such information because it's tricky you
have to very be very careful with your
wording yeah and be careful to not be
cancelled and be careful to not to not
um almost
chasti a certain gender for something
that is an effect of
socialization is not as simple as
shortcuts so regardless of what gender
cuz there's guys as well that sleep with
other guys for money is it not just yeah
v v on on on adulting yeah yeah is it
not just a simple thing of people just
don't want to work for their money
anymore it's like a shortcut so for
example like okay you can be with a man
right who starts from scratch you can
see the vision he builds his thing and
whatever it takes years maybe five six
years but eventually gets there to the
point that you want him to get but you
know you had to be patient right as
opposed to just being with a guy who you
know next week if you sleep with him
will get you to that level so it's a
shortcut isn't it as simple as
that I'm not Bob the Builder not
sticking
around
patriarch
yeah even you can be a feminist yeah
100% definitely by actively dismantling
patriarchy by saying okay I'm looking
around this room how many men how many
wom yes do you see what I'm saying that
to me that is feminism and and fighting
for that
now regardless of gender regardless of
gend thank you
yeah equality yeah okay like as a man I
can still fight for that yeah yeah
regardless of gender so for me
go go murky tricky because it's just
like I'm raising a
girl the last thing I want her to see is
these high school kids who are doing the
most uh whatever I don't want to talk
about it too much and mention names and
and and like sound bad yeah but excuse
me
iing because it's one thing to live in
your
femininity you know and to only attract
men that are just here to take care of
you yeah and to live in that reality yes
it's one thing woman who do that and are
they're not feminist
and yeah feminist
necessar please be a gentleman that was
my feminine energy I could have
gone I could have but that's a bit
masculine yes yes that's not you and you
have to admit it you guys love that
up you love the feminine shitu up
we do and guess what we love the
masculine
yes so it's a miscommunication of the
okay sorry my hands are doing a
[Laughter]
different it's a
miscommunication of the two Polar
Opposites it's a it's a miscommunication
and then it happened to project when
during this
time
of this culture of social media social
media over stimulation over stimulation
of information over stimulation of other
people's lives I don't know when last I
knew about other people's lives then
now like before I'm my like I'm older
than
Instagram I'm older than the internet
yes
we yeah
like
so for me I get you you get where I'm
going I get you I get you and that's why
it's so hard for us to navigate in these
show for me it's like okay fine if we
want to talk about that culture of um
this the the sex industry is fine okay
the six industry I
myself benefited this is not a
sound B but I do support the sex
industry by going to strip clubs yeah we
all do and I do spend money on strippers
and I'll tell you why and it's
because I
respect the
craft yeah it's a craft nobody gets it
nobody gets it you said it and nobody
gets it nobody gets what it's like to
have to walk onto a set with lights and
cameras and it's all about you I get it
I get it so for somebody to walk out
naked on a pole with no and with no
Pilates Bo or a string or a t string
yeah yeah you have to be a there person
is also putting their femininity on
display do you know how many times in
my like growing up into becoming an
adult I've been told I've been like not
me but people in my age group have been
kind of pushed away from our own
femininity we've been told all the women
independ your
hands you were never
told love love man allow your man yes
he's always right it's
okay suck that
dick he's
[Laughter]
teaching so yeah that's that's I love
the way you put it man yeah that's
my thing and that that show if that show
was about the sex industry and and and
the effects of it and and and and
and I love that puka what do you think
man about what she saying no I agree
with her but also at the same time
it's also not like I mean it's
everything she said is correct as well
but it's also yeah it's just shortcut
you know what I mean other
people whatever to get there and other
women then use the sex and the
it's the easiest way you know what I
mean take a guy I'm been going to for
example and put him in a job in a job
you know say he's earning 8,000 R he
won't survive take a girl from Summit
you know put her in a job where she
needs to wake up every morning and earn
8,000 R like what the she makes
that in a in a good weekend so yeah so
it's also just shortcuts at the end of
the day really and people using the what
they have their closest tools at their
disposal you know and that's a good
point and I cuz I was about to uh
mention U why are we taking shortcuts
okay okay you know that's a good
question for us to ask to say okay it's
a shortcut it's because cuz when I was
putting minky together I had to to be
mindful of her environment and the time
she's living in the time she's living in
is huge numbers of youth
unemployment huge huge
[Music]
numbers yeah so for me it's like those
things just don't come get sucked out of
someone's thumb you do it because
there's a need there's a supply and
there's a
demand but a lot of times it's also also
the reason it's the reason why it's more
R now than ever it's because like you
said we know more about other people's
lives now more than ever right and allim
all the ulence the the opulence the
stimulation the wealth you get on
Instagram and you see someone living
like this it's so close you think you
can
SM cuz half of the people are committing
crime and selling their bodies half of
them are not trying to get put kids
through school some of them you know
what I mean they're trying to get an
Amiri the latest Amiri hat the latest
Gucci because it's what they see
and it's that is here more than
ever our parents didn't grow up seeing
that kind of opulence yeah you know and
then if there were
people or selling their bodies
then
because they W see they didn't have they
weren seeing this guy living in santon
on Instagram or living going on a yard
or Dubai they didn't even know Dubai you
know what I mean true j z um when you
hear about j z in the workforce you
become a little bit disappointed cuz j z
in the work force has a reputation to
just not be present W J now the 20 yeah
the 2000 yeah yeah you you you you hear
about the stuff and you're
like like you'll be fine they want
intific that's the problem I don't want
to be canel or whatever
but so it's that you have to add that to
the calculation as well you also have to
add the fact
that they're not working they're not
going to school they're being over
stimulated with information they they
over stimulated other people's lives and
also the birth rate have you heard about
the birth rate with Jen Z j z doesn't
want to have kids W the birth rate is
going down it's plummeting it's
plummeting in Europe and America if you
read about the birth rate it's
plummeting it's going down jenz is like
it's going to end in tears
M so Africans on the other hand are
having babies at willo and even by
mistake we just be like you know what I
mean like oh popping them out and
but people are inspired by 350 to pop a
baby you see what I'm saying
so
yes they are seeing the aftermath of how
we grew up they're seeing the aftermath
of how the ones who came after us you
know what I'm saying so you have to add
those things to the equation to go
yes they might be over simulated yes
they might be this but hip hop
culture hip hop culture sing it plays a
huge part in influencing
these young uh they're trying to find
themselves you know they are I don't
think I knew what I liked about myself
till I was 22 oh yeah yeah yeah yeah
definitely for it's even later
you see what I mean by the time I was 22
I was like hey actually I like my big
tits like Y'all Mar cake this is
Ashley the richest twins in the world
so yes yes yes so I had to like
now imagine you Cho them off when you 16
cuz it was the end thing to
do
crazy Correctional for forens in
my when I was 16 I wanted to be a
pilot I thought I was also going to be a
gynecologist and I thought I was going
to be famous for playing the guitar
better than scarlo Santana imagine that
was me at 16 by the time I was 18 I had
new Dreams by the time I was 21 I had
so
yeah anyway ghost lady anything else you
some girl I just okay I got stuck in
this conversation but we move
um what is your best paying job
Ry adulting isn't adulting what I
thought you'd put adulting as one of
them they just matched it oh okay okay
hold on hold on but Rhythm s you were
there for like a long time I doubting
you've been there for like five episodes
oh they got budget there bro
on adult shout out to ch ch
pictures was it then that you were able
to make the decision to take a break so
from that I had been trying to leave for
about 3 years oh okay and producers were
kind of like no please day another year
and they kept kind of bumping the cheese
up ah yeah oh yeah so by the time I
left please tell everyone about the
Trevor story no come on the NOA Story
please
[Laughter]
please they on episode 17 so actually
must tell them to watch episode 7 yeah
just watch episode 17 and I'm not
talking about it I want to know we love
you Trevor and South Africa we love
Trevor he knows South
Africa you there's no Trevor story um
she said no to
Trevor oh she said you said why don't I
tell
us but no you didn't he was not Trevor
Daily Show Trevor so you're allowed to
say no to Trevor dread maybe he wasn't
making more than you maybe he was rude
to the waater oh so it's you're allow to
say you're allowed to say no but the CRA
no I don't want to talk like
I it's not part of my story it shouldn't
be attached to me like and the poor
sitting
there it happened it's you I'd forgotten
about it until you sent me the the text
you yes cuz I like thank god um what is
I say I said thanks a lot I was shooting
a magazine cover in the week and one of
the questions was oh is it true that you
and Trevon almost had something and I
sent a screenshot to me and I was like
look what you did cuz from what was the
reason then to say no I was dating
someone oh oh you
see do you look back we did a movie
together we played lovers in a movie
yeah let me see let me go back to our
text and see yeah we played lovers in a
movie but if you look at him now don't
you ever go
H I've been my
femininity in the Manhattan
[Applause]
penth
fine how the did he say no to
Trevor what did you say to him you're
like n
bro what you with Thomas then Thomas you
was Thomas then you Thomas for a long
time thas three years that's a long time
Thomas K yeah Thomas K yeah yeah yeah
where is that where are those and
he's
kind actually yeah you're actually
consistent oh he's not kind what happen
I'm just dud you're here like listing
the thing yeah yeah yeah he made more
than you then I don't know now but he
you could make a good actor your memory
is I've got a super mem oh no he's got a
good well with my help you could make a
good actor help me so this is what she
said she said I do um offer PR
uh acting lessons oh yeah I'll sign up
I'm shooting for this cover today for
I'm just not coaching right now for
which like four of five of my actors are
on TV now wow that I coached P listen to
what she said exactly I'll be TV what do
you want from which role she's like
Terry called me today she wants to C me
in a
movie yeah exactly okay why are you
reading read I've been for five minutes
now so has he been like yeah sorry sorry
sorry I'm shooting for this cover today
and I'm leaving that question blank the
one about Trevor no cuz wow rather ask
me about the Hollywood actor I did
everything
with who is that now you see I've been
five minutes hey man wow you weren't
supposed to say that it's
content
who is it me no I'm definitely not
telling
you Sami I'm not that's that would be so
weird he's also married now I told you
he's married now South African no
Hollywood hwood okay tell us where did
you hook up with them in in Hollywood he
was in Jo book shooting a movie that's
where we met um I won't say which movie
because then you'll know who it is wow
um lead actor yes the lead is the
American he's British but he does a good
[Applause]
um Mandela Mandel she played Mandel
Edris Ela played
mandelis El was in sou Africa and he
does a very good American accent he have
his
passport and he's married now he's
married yeah he's married he's
married he's married
heyr guys I'm looking at this headline
now no no no man that is W don't do that
I they listen further and find out that
know it's not with these he like
let me call my African
H is African
H
[Applause]
African wow damn wow that's crazy it
he's a big
deal deal alist a big deal he was at the
real wedding wasn't he remember he was
yeah with his wife beautiful wife and
Meg
weding we got to go to these sets man
are rock we have to go we have to
go to the sets bro it's in the sets in
the sets
SK the magic is in the
SS it's in the SS dog
we love you so much man love you thanks
for me on the show no man any time you
family you come back anytime beautiful
whenis is in the country
maybe speak to him guys
next no guys this year when you we
voting this year me why we must vote
guys vote where you at where you at
where you at you ask me who I'm going to
vote no no no but like how you feeling
about the elections the country state of
the country boom boom boom uh I just
wish people would vote
and I don't want to State my political
alliances
or my political wishes cuz I'm still
stuck on Congo right
now um yeah you haven't seen what's
happening in con ter no one talks about
it yeah no one's yeah it's been like six
to 10 years yeah like a woman is raped
every 4 minutes
who no and I saw a video the other day
of a
three-year-old um in
a in a line almost working at a mine
mining Cobalt and I and I thought of my
kid my kid is turning six and I thought
of her with her little soft hands
carrying a bucket like a thing
or whatever
like wait what are we doing about that
cuz I mean we out there in the
international court of justice fighting
Israel but what are we doing about
what's going on in Congo the injustices
towards kids South Africa sent troops to
Congo yeah like like two weeks ago oh is
that's what's needed though military
intervention we do need a military
presence there because the people who
are interrogating the people on the
ground are the the the the the rebels
yes who are almost being
used as pawns for this game of keep the
Cobalt out of the congales hands but
then you also have guys like so there
external forces that have empowered they
always empower the rebels if they're on
the top of government always they give
them guns them TR they give them food
they give them everything that's
so we've deployed um but I'm saying
it's wow hey I can't speak on
thise good let me sit closer to come let
me sit closer to you it's
fine no it's fine it's fine it's fine
police I what was I saying
police oh no I was saying it's difficult
because even the open Heimer um benefit
from what's happening in Congo they'll
benefit from everything that happens in
Africa for the next 100 years yeah so
it's difficult to to to to squash stuff
like that years and possibly more so
yeah that's what I want to say you guys
can
continue yeah I spicy up anything else
you busy with um well what I'm shooting
now I can't speak about yet um and you
were laughing at me earlier cuz I was
like the script is kicking my butt
you're like what do you mean the script
is kicking your butt I was like man the
character research um I'm still trying
to find this Han what is it going to be
you on Netflix or what bet bet oh yes
yeah I I'm not I don't know her yet and
I have my first table read next
week uh yeah that's separate but right
now um if you haven't watched adulting
yet um it's still on show Max I'm on
from episode 2 to 7 um and I play minky
uh dinkis are you going to die dinkis is
is gone s yeah yeah they dump which is
good which is good that mean to get got
rid of her CU she's toxic yeah they dump
is she no she is look she's got her own
story is she wrong like every time she
like fights him is she wrong he was
talking to the girl no but he was
talking to the girl not in the way
of it was just
[Music]
like
is a problem man is problem and then the
other girl is no ways no I think they
both have some healing to do yeah they
both traumatized how how's moonchild cuz
best friends with moonchild best oh wow
wow wow AR guys
besties good friends man dud like you
you make each other clothes what okay
what
clearly something happened nothing
happened but you're not as close
as you're not that close anymore I
didn't say that uhhuh so what are you
saying nothing I I haven't said a thing
what you speak to you said a lot without
saying anything yeah no has it to be an
actress oh to have your face be so
translative such a
weakness oh
Lord
eye
rolling you said so
much but I'm heart broken mean heart
broken I love child man I love her too
energy is amazing yeah yeah I love her
too so oh wow when you speak to you
didn't answer that I don't know um
probably last year
sometime last many moons ago child I
want to hug you you can hug
I'm so
Bor amen we are here Round of Applause
for
Sam
Sam this has been podcasting chill man
we are here we love you so much
man many
moon
welcome to Black Excellence do not fear
for if you do just sip on some
grandure and if you still do ask
ourselves what would Muni
[Music]
do when they ask
you do not fear for if you do just say
an TV this is the medicine of censorship
this is the pill which one is that one
podcast and chill
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