AMD 7950X vs Intel 13900K for Music Production: The Result
Summary
TLDRThe video compares AMD's 7950x and Intel's 13900k CPUs for music and content production. Both CPUs offer strong performance, making them suitable for most users. Benchmarks show AMD's 7950x generally outperforms the 13900k, but Intel's 13900k excels in some specific tasks like sampled instruments and budget-friendly builds due to its compatibility with DDR4 memory. The discussion includes feedback from Reaper and FL Studio, emphasizing single-core performance for real-time audio. Ultimately, the choice depends on budget, specific use cases, and preference between Intel's cost-efficiency and AMD's future-proof tech.
Takeaways
- 🔄 Both the AMD 7950x and Intel 3900k are top consumer CPUs and offer similar performance for most music and content production tasks.
- 🎶 For music production, both CPUs are solid choices, but individual needs and preferences may dictate which to choose.
- ⚖️ Benchmarks show mixed results: AMD 7950x wins in some tests, but Intel 3900k excels in others, especially in lower buffer sizes and specific scenarios like using sampled instruments.
- 💰 Intel systems can be more budget-friendly due to cheaper DDR4 memory and lower motherboard costs, while AMD offers the latest technology with AM5 socket support.
- 💡 AMD 7950x is highlighted for being future-proof, with some content creators reporting better stability compared to Intel systems.
- 🔧 Image Line (FL Studio) emphasizes that multi-core CPUs are important but that more cores don't always mean better performance in music production due to the importance of single-core performance.
- 🎛️ Single-core performance remains critical in audio production, as overloading a single core can cause glitches even in high-core-count CPUs.
- 💻 Reaper suggests that both CPUs have close single-core performance and that the best choice depends on specific use cases, especially the types of plugins and VSTs used.
- 📊 Puget Systems' tests show that Intel's 13th-gen CPUs offer notable improvements over the 12th-gen, with the Intel 13900k providing great performance at a lower price point than AMD.
- 🏆 If cost isn't an issue and you're looking for the absolute best performance, the AMD 7950x is the top performer, though Intel still leads in value for money in certain cases.
Q & A
What are the two main CPUs being compared for music and content production in the script?
-The two main CPUs compared in the script are the AMD Ryzen 7950X and the Intel i9-13900K.
How do the Ryzen 7950X and Intel 13900K compare in terms of performance for music production?
-Both CPUs perform similarly overall, but the Intel 13900K tends to win in lower buffer size tests (e.g., 64 buffer size), while the AMD Ryzen 7950X performs better in certain high-end benchmarks. Both are suitable for music production, but specific tasks may influence the choice.
Why might Intel be a better choice for a budget music production build?
-Intel systems can use DDR4 memory and their motherboards are generally less expensive compared to AMD's AM5 socket boards. This can result in a lower overall system cost while still maintaining good performance.
What did the video author say about AMD’s future-proofing in relation to the 7950X?
-The author mentions that the AMD 7950X is a future-proof system because it is built with the latest technology, making it a strong option for those who value staying current, even if it’s not strictly necessary for everyone.
What was the feedback provided by FL Studio about choosing a CPU for music production?
-FL Studio emphasizes that while multi-core CPUs are useful, beyond a certain point more cores aren't necessarily better. They recommend a CPU with 8-12 physical cores and strong single-core performance to avoid audio glitches during real-time playback.
How does single-core performance impact music production, according to the script?
-Single-core performance is crucial because if one core becomes overloaded, it can cause audio glitches during real-time playback, regardless of how many other cores are available.
What was Reaper’s response to the CPU comparison for their software?
-Reaper mentioned that both CPUs (AMD 7950X and Intel 13900K) have similar single-core performance, which remains important for their software. The choice depends on specific usage, such as plugin and track count.
What factor is essential for intensive plugin usage in music production, as noted in the script?
-For intensive plugin usage, the more cores and higher performance the CPU has, the better, as this can help handle the significant load of running multiple VSTs and plugins simultaneously.
According to Puget Systems, which CPU would be better for budget-conscious buyers?
-Puget Systems recommends Intel’s 13th-gen processors (e.g., 13600K, 13700K, 13900K) for budget-conscious buyers, as they provide a good balance of performance and cost.
What conclusion does the author draw regarding the best CPU for a high-end build?
-For a high-end, top-of-the-line build without budget constraints, the author leans toward the AMD Ryzen 7950X, noting its excellent performance and future-proof technology.
Outlines
🤔 Comparing AMD 7950x and Intel 13900k for Music and Content Production
The paragraph begins by discussing the test results for the AMD 7950x and Intel 13900k, which are both top-tier consumer CPUs suitable for music and content production PCs. The performance differences in benchmarks are examined, focusing on specific buffer size tests where each CPU excels in different areas. The user also explores posts from online forums and mentions that their budget priorities, like Spotify marketing, affect the choice of hardware. The AMD 7950x generally outperforms in higher buffer sizes, but the Intel 13900k shines at 64 buffer size. DDR5 memory also plays a significant role in overall performance, with further insights drawn from personal experiences and tech influencers.
🎵 CPU Considerations for Music Production: Balancing Cores and Performance
This paragraph delves deeper into the CPU performance considerations for music production, highlighting input from FL Studio, Reaper, and Puget Systems. The focus shifts to balancing core count with single-core performance, as overloading a single core can lead to audio glitches during real-time playback. Recommendations suggest not overspending on the highest-end CPUs, with options in the $300-$500 range often providing the best value. Puget Systems and other experts also advise that beyond a certain point, more cores don’t necessarily improve performance in music production, reinforcing the need for a balance between core count and base clock speed.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡7950X
💡13900K
💡DDR5 memory
💡Buffer size
💡DAW benchmarks
💡Contact 6
💡FL Studio
💡Single-core performance
💡Puget Systems
💡Future-proofing
Highlights
The 7950x and 13900k are the top consumer CPUs from AMD and Intel for music and content production.
Both CPUs are excellent choices for 95% of users, with differences primarily relevant to high-end or niche needs.
Benchmarks show the 7950x slightly outperforming the 13900k in certain tests, but the Intel option pulls ahead in others.
At 64 buffer size, the 13900k outperforms the 7950x in specific tests, highlighting differences in low-latency workloads.
DDR5 memory significantly impacts performance, with both CPUs showing strong results, depending on configuration.
For higher buffer sizes (256 and 512), the Intel 13900k has better performance in certain tests using sampled instruments.
Intel systems can be more budget-friendly, as they support DDR4 memory and have more affordable motherboards.
AMD’s 7950x is the latest technology and may appeal to those seeking a future-proof system.
Image Line (FL Studio) suggests that the best value in CPUs is usually found a few levels below top-tier models.
For music production, single-core performance is still crucial, as an overloaded core can cause audio glitches.
Reaper also emphasizes that CPU choice depends heavily on the specific plugin usage and track count.
Intel’s 13th Gen CPUs show massive generational improvements, with up to 29% better performance over 12th Gen.
Intel’s 13th Gen mid-tier CPUs outperform similarly priced AMD counterparts, making Intel a solid budget option.
For top-tier performance without concern for budget, the AMD 7950x is the strongest option by an 8% margin.
The decision between Intel and AMD depends on whether the user prioritizes budget or maximum performance.
Transcripts
so the test results from the 7950x and
the 3900k for a new music production or
content Productions PC seems to be
somewhat similar I'm going to take a
look at some door benchmarks some people
have posted and I'm also sent a question
about this to FL Studio and Reaper so
we're going to see what they answered
later in this video the 7950x and the
3900k are the current top of the line
consumer CPUs from Intel and AMD and the
short answer here is that both are going
to be a good basis for any music
production content production PC build
for probably 95 percent of you watching
this video and for the five percent of
you you probably already know what you
what you need to to have in in your
specific build so the question is are
you going for AMD or are we going for
Intel this time and before we answer
that question we should take a look at
some benchmarks and see some numbers and
credit goes to this tough cat guy who
made this post on gearspace here I would
like to have the CPUs here but my dirty
Norwegian oil money is being funneled
into other things like marketing my
Spotify profile the link is below so the
first test here is comparing the 5950x
and the 7950x we can see here that
obviously the 67950x the top of the line
am5 socket CPU from AMD wins in this
particular test the
13900k is a little bit slower with its
563 points but if you take a look at the
64 buffer size the 3900k actually wins
on that specific test here you can see
in this post it has 525 points
and here it has
471 and when we take a look at doorbench
using Contact 6 the numbers are a little
bit different and we can also see that
ddr5 memory is actually affecting the
performance numbers quite a bit so you
can see here at 64 buffer size the 7950x
with ddr5 gets
2260 points and the 3900k with ddr5 is
getting the same result and with 128
buffer size the 7950x gets
3800 points and is 3900k gets 4120 on
256 the 3900k wins as well and also on
512 buffer size so it seems like if
you're using a lot of sampled
instruments if you're losing using
contact the Intel platform could be a
good choice as well it seems like Intel
could be a good choice if you are on a
budget and I'm also going to show you a
article from Peugeot systems where they
kind of also confirms this
you can run in the Intel system on ddr4
memory and the modern boards are not
that expensive compared to the am5
motherboards that the AMD uses now and
the overall entire system cost will be
lower compared if we are going for an
AMD am5 build if I had to build a system
right now I would probably go for AMD
just because it's the latest technology
and that is something that I am
interested in I think that's fun it's
not necessarily because I need it
and the benchmarks show that the 7950x
the top of the line CPU works great and
of its its future proof system as well
and uh also J's two cents which are a
big YouTuber Tech YouTuber claimed that
his AMD system was behaving a lot more
stable compared to the Intel system
these are his words and I have no way of
confirming that but uh I put a lot of
trust in this person so I think what
he's saying is true however the system
I'm using now it's based on the previous
generation ryzen 3900 at X it works just
fine as I said earlier in the video my
resources are better spent elsewhere at
the moment so as I said earlier in this
video I sent an email to the guys making
Reaper FL Studio and Ableton and I just
asked them what do you think about these
two top of the line CPUs what do you
think are the best CPU to go if you are
building a new system and we are going
to take a look at the answer I got from
image line first so they say hi your
question is answered in our knowledge
base so this was more or less a copy
paste answer but they have the question
here what computer should I get for
music production and if we take a look
at the CPU image line is saying that the
CPU is the primary factor in your
ability to run a full studio with large
complex projects
FL Studio utiliters says multi-core CPUs
but beyond a certain point more it is
not necessarily better
the logic of audio press processing in
the manual to learn why and in light of
this the best value for performance is
usually to be had a few levels down from
the top models and this is something we
are going to see in the article from
Puget systems as well they say we don't
normally recommend spending more than
six hundred dollars for on a CPU only
for music productions
CPUs between 300 to 500 are usually in
The Sweet Spot then they have some
examples here and then they also talk
about the Apple products then they say
hey choose your own search for CPU with
the fastest single Quark performance you
can afford in a package with 8 to 12
physical cores why because if any one
core becomes overloaded it does not
matter how many other cores you have
there will be audio glitches in real
time playback if you have a CPU with 32
cores and a lower base clock if you
overload just one of those cores it
means that the other course won't be
helping at all because that core is
overloaded you will get audio glitches
so it's also important to have a
balancer between cores and base clock
actually single core performers are
still important in music production
Reaper said to me they say hey thank you
for interest in Reaper
they are saying that both CPUs are
really close in their single core
performance which still plays a deciding
role also for those software as I said
earlier so I guess this is down to
personal preference you may also want to
check out the latest door bench results
which we saw here for both CPUs if
available we don't have any specified
minimum system requirements or system
CPU recommendations since this depends
so much on what you do with it and
specifically your plugin usage track
count needs
Etc
and for intensive plug-in usage the more
the merrier is certainly true and the
general aptitude of a computer to run
real-time low latency audio processing
software does not depend on system specs
alone and I can only refer you to the
forums so the answer for Reaper here is
awesome because it will always depend on
what type of plugin and vsts you already
running
if you're running Reaper let's say with
10 Diva vsts compared to running it with
10
I don't know some some maybe a single
oscillator serum instance it will differ
significantly in in load and we can also
take a look at Puget systems here they
have an article where they are testing
the 13 gen Intel core processors fugit
systems they are a system builder who
specializes in Building Systems for a
lot of different applications it can be
uh rendering content creation yeah a lot
of things in that area and they say that
once again the Gen over gen Improvement
is massive with 13 gen coming in at
around 25 to 29 faster than the 12th gen
depending on the specific CPU model and
interestingly just like with CPU
rendering Intel holds the lead When
comparing similar priced CPUs with the
13600k 700k and 900k beating ryzen
7677 and seven 900k respectively however
AMD takes the crown with its ryzen 7950x
though only by eight percent so the way
I am interpreting these tests we are
reading here now and if I'm going for a
budget and not the top of the line CPU
it looks like the Intel third engine
Intel core processors is the way to go
if you just want the top of the line the
Max and you don't care about the price
at all the 7950x should probably be the
CPU you would go for if I could I would
go for the 7950x it would not be the
best value but it would just be I don't
know perhaps bragging rights let me know
what CPU or system you are going for in
the comments below and I will see you in
the next one bye bye
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