Charlie Kirk Learns How Racist Oregon Democrats Are

Summary

This transcript presents a heated debate about race, privilege, and societal inequities. The conversation explores white privilege, Asian-American success, historical injustices, and whether systemic racism still exists today. Both participants discuss the impact of slavery, police treatment, and the validity of reparations, with conflicting views on how race affects opportunities in America. The discussion touches on controversial topics such as black-only dormitories, Trump’s stance on racism, and intergenerational wealth disparities. The debate reflects deep ideological differences on privilege, meritocracy, and racial equality.

Takeaways

• 😐 The conversation revolves around the concept of 'white privilege' and whether it exists, with one person arguing it does not and the other asserting it does.
• 💼 It's mentioned that Asian Americans and Indian Americans are among the wealthiest groups in America, suggesting that wealth accumulation is possible regardless of race.
• 🏛️ The historical treatment of Asian Americans, including the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II, is discussed as an example of past discrimination.
• 🔄 The discussion touches on the idea that making good choices, such as getting married, having children later, getting a job, and graduating high school, can lead to success, regardless of race.
• 📊 There's a debate about whether wealth equates to power and privilege, with one person arguing that success is based on individual choices and hard work.
• 👮‍♂️ Police treatment of different racial groups is brought up, with a claim that white people are more likely to be shot by police than black people, which is contested.
• 🏡 The conversation includes a discussion about intergenerational wealth and how historical events, like slavery, might have long-term effects on present-day wealth and opportunities.
• 🌐 The participant argues that America is a meritocracy where good choices are rewarded, and there's potential for intergenerational ascension.
• 🏢 The conversation also covers the topic of reparations, with one person stating that focusing on creating a better future is more productive than trying to fix the past.
• 🎓 There's a mention of racial segregation in educational institutions, such as black-only dormitories and graduation ceremonies, which is seen by one participant as divisive.

Q & A

What is the claim made about Asian Americans' wealth in the United States?

Asian Americans are claimed to be the richest people in America per race, with Indian Americans being the second richest.

What is the counter-argument to the claim that wealth equates to power or privilege?

The counter-argument is that wealth does not necessarily mean power or privilege, as historical advantages and systemic issues can still impact different racial groups.

How is the concept of 'White Privilege' addressed in the transcript?

The concept of 'White Privilege' is debated, with one side arguing that it does not exist and that success is based on individual choices and merit, while the other side suggests that historical advantages and systemic racism play a role.

What historical examples are provided to argue against the existence of 'White Privilege'?

The examples provided include the hardships faced by Asian Americans in the 1940s and 1950s, and the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II, suggesting that all racial groups have faced challenges and that current success is not solely due to 'White Privilege'.

What is the argument regarding the success of Asian Americans despite historical discrimination?

The argument is that Asian Americans have overcome historical discrimination through hard work and making good choices, which led to their current economic success.

What are the 'three choices' mentioned in the transcript that can lead to not living in poverty?

The 'three choices' are: getting married, getting married before having kids, getting a job, and graduating high school.

How does the transcript discuss the role of race in police treatment?

The transcript brings up the topic of police treatment, suggesting that there are disparities in how different races are treated by the police, but also noting that data can be complex and should not be solely relied upon to draw conclusions.

What is the stance on reparations as discussed in the transcript?

The stance is against reparations, arguing that instead of trying to fix the past, efforts should be focused on creating a better future.

What is the perspective on racial segregation in educational institutions as presented in the transcript?

The perspective is critical of racial segregation, such as black-only dormitories and graduation ceremonies, viewing it as a form of re-segregation and divisive.

How is the discussion on President Trump's racial views summarized in the transcript?

The discussion suggests that President Trump is not racist, citing examples such as his appointment of a black woman as the first Army Sergeant Major in the United States Army.

Outlines

00:00

💬 Debate on White Privilege and Racial Wealth Disparities

This paragraph features a heated discussion on the concept of white privilege. The speaker refutes the existence of white privilege, arguing that it is a lie and a racist notion. They challenge the claim by pointing out that Asian Americans are the wealthiest group in the U.S., followed by Indian Americans, suggesting that wealth accumulation is not tied to race but rather to economic systems and individual choices. The speaker acknowledges historical advantages for white individuals but emphasizes that hard work and meritocracy are the keys to success, regardless of skin color. The conversation also touches on the treatment of Asian Americans in the past, the role of good choices in achieving success, and the debate over whether skin color or personal decisions play a more significant role in one's life outcomes.

05:01

🌟 The Rise of Asian Americans and the Myth of a 'Rigged' Society

The second paragraph continues the conversation by focusing on the success of Asian Americans, who were once the poorest group in America and are now the wealthiest. The speaker argues against the idea that U.S. society is rigged in favor of white individuals, using the example of Asian Americans to demonstrate that success is possible for all races. They mention that the Constitution was not written in Korean or Hindi, yet these groups have thrived, suggesting that opportunities exist for everyone. The paragraph also addresses the historical mistreatment of various racial and ethnic groups, including the construction of the railroad system by Asian Americans and the internment of Japanese Americans. The speaker contends that while past injustices occurred, they do not define the present, and that focusing on creating a better future is more productive than dwelling on the past.

10:01

🔍 Racial Issues and the Impact of Past Injustices

In the third paragraph, the discussion delves into the impact of historical injustices on present-day racial issues. The speaker acknowledges that every racial and ethnic group has faced some form of suffering but argues that the U.S. has made significant progress in addressing these issues. They mention the abolition of slavery and the passage of the Civil Rights Act as examples of America's efforts to correct past wrongs. The conversation also touches on the topic of reparations, with the speaker expressing their belief that focusing on creating opportunities for the future is more beneficial than trying to fix the past. The speaker also addresses the idea of racial segregation in modern society, questioning the logic behind black-only graduation ceremonies and dormitories, and suggesting that such practices are divisive rather than unifying.

Keywords

💡White Privilege

White privilege refers to the societal advantages that white people are said to have beyond those experienced by non-white individuals. In the script, the concept is debated as a myth or a reality. The speaker argues against its existence, suggesting that success is based on individual choices and hard work rather than racial advantages.

💡Asian-American Privilege

This term is used to counter the notion of white privilege by pointing out that Asian Americans, despite historical discrimination, have achieved high levels of wealth and education. The speaker uses this as evidence to argue that success is not tied to racial privilege but to making good choices and working hard.

💡Wealth and Power

Wealth is discussed in the script as a measure of success, with the speaker noting that Asian Americans and Indian Americans are among the wealthiest groups in the U.S. Power, on the other hand, is considered in the context of systemic influence and control. The speaker argues that wealth does not necessarily equate to power, suggesting that racial wealth disparities do not imply systemic privilege.

💡Meritocracy

Meritocracy is a social system where individuals are rewarded based on their abilities and achievements. The speaker advocates for the idea of a meritocracy, claiming that in America, good choices are rewarded regardless of skin color, which counters the argument of systemic racial privilege.

💡Slavery and its Repercussions

Slavery is mentioned as a historical injustice that has had long-lasting effects on society. The speaker argues that while slavery was a grave wrong, its direct effects have been largely addressed through legal and social reforms, and that contemporary racial disparities are not solely a result of this historical injustice.

💡Racial Discrimination

Racial discrimination is the unfair treatment of individuals based on their race. The script discusses various forms of discrimination, including historical and contemporary examples. The speaker suggests that while discrimination exists, it is not the sole determinant of an individual's success or failure.

💡Intergenerational Ascension

Intergenerational ascension refers to the upward social mobility of children relative to their parents. The speaker uses this concept to argue that in America, individuals can improve their social and economic status across generations, suggesting that opportunities for advancement are not restricted by race.

💡Reparations

Reparations are payments or other forms of compensation made for historical injustices. The speaker is against reparations, arguing that they are not effective and can lead to further racial division. Instead, the speaker advocates for creating opportunities for a better future.

💡Segregation

Segregation is the practice of separating individuals of different races. The script touches on modern forms of segregation, such as black-only dormitories and graduation ceremonies, which the speaker criticizes as regressive and counter to the goal of racial integration.

💡Racial Problems

Racial problems refer to issues that arise from racial discrimination or prejudice. The speaker argues that while there are still racial problems in America, they are not systemic and are more related to individual acts of racism rather than widespread, institutionalized racial privilege.

Highlights

Discussion on the concept of 'white privilege' and its implications.

Claim that Asian Americans are the wealthiest group in America, challenging the notion of 'white privilege'.

Acknowledgment of historical disadvantages faced by Asian Americans in the 1940s and 1950s.

Argument that wealth does not equate to power or privilege.

Discussion on the role of hard work and meritocracy in overcoming historical disadvantages.

Statistical evidence presented on the success rates of Asian Americans and the choices that lead to their success.

Debate on the existence of 'Asian-American privilege' and its comparison to 'white privilege'.

Reference to historical injustices such as slavery and their potential impact on present-day society.

Mention of the Civil Rights Act and its role in reducing racial inequities.

Discussion on the differences in treatment by police and racial disparities.

Challenge to the idea that skin color determines opportunities, emphasizing individual choices.

Argument that historical suffering of various ethnic groups should not be used to justify current inequities.

Debate on the effectiveness of reparations and their impact on racial divisions.

Discussion on the potential for intergenerational wealth accumulation and its influence on current socioeconomic status.

Argument against the idea of racial segregation in educational institutions.

Debate on the existence of racial problems in America and the need for evidence-based discussions.

Challenge to the notion of 'postracial' society and the existence of racial discrimination.

Discussion on the role of individual actions and choices in overcoming racial disparities.

Transcripts

yeah you said there's no such thing as

white privilege there is no such thing

as white privilege it's racist and a lie

prove it prove it prove

ites why an Asian Americans are the

richest people in America you made a

claim asian-americans are the richest

people in America per race

indian-americans are the second richest

okay wealth doesn't mean power in so so

so do you believe in Asian-American

privilege hey wealth doesn't mean power

and privileg do you believe in

Asian-American privilege believe that

there is a that there are a few people

of certain races who have gotten very

very wealthy based on trade based

on well the economic system that we have

um I also believe that as a white

man I

historically have an advantage over

people who are of a color that is not my

skin this can be this is evident from

the from the slave train all the way up

to reconstruction and all the way up to

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Pro I I assume based on your facial

expression that you have a report I'm

going to go ahead and let you make so

did we treat asian-americans well in the

1940s and 50s we sure didn't so then how

did they overcome that they overcame

that through

were they privileged having to work

harder than white people oh so they work

harder and they were rewarded for it 60

years

later how about people that work hard

for 350

years slaves yeah slaves what what do

you mean do you know anyone that's ever

owned a

slave do I know anyone that's ever owned

a slave yes does has a lot to do with it

what does that have to do with like

because if you make three if you make

three big choices in America you're

guaranteed not to live in poverty you

know what those three choices are get

married get get married before you have

kids get a job and graduate high school

you know what community does that at the

highest rate asian-americans that's why

they're successful we live in a

meritocracy you make good choices you

will be rewarded for those choices

irrelevant of your skin color when you

say White Privilege exists Good Choice

Privilege exists yeah but I think uh

white people reap a lot of benefits name

one benefit that white people that they

they benefit from this

despite treatment what police treatment

what about police treatment that that

that white people are more likely to be

shot by a police officer than a black

person's likely to be shot by a police

officer from the federal Bure of

investigation and Department of Justice

independent study of 300 independent

police forces across

the facts must bother leftist because

they always walk away as soon as

you ton of leftists here who are still

standing here well I've already made a

couple but I'm happy to oh you made a

that's great let's get

back that's quantifiable evidence if

White Privilege exists why are

asian-americans and Indian Americans

wealthier have higher incomes live in

better areas on aggregate than white

Americans do I don't know maybe because

White Privilege doesn't exist maybe or

maybe maybe it doesn't okay may maybe

skin color has nothing to do with it

choices have everything to do with it I

disagree with that then show me some

evidence because I just showed you some

evidence it doesn't exist what would you

take as evidence what count something

that I just said for example that the

wealthiest people in America numbers

would be nice historical data logic

testimony no testimony means nothing I

don't care about anyone's version of

truth I care about evidence I don't care

about feelings I care about facts AR

aren't most of these studies based on

partially based on testimony though no

when you say that asian-americans are

the richest people in America that's

math that's looking at people's income

that's not

testimony testimony would be a singular

person saying I've had a tough time that

would be testimony which that might be

true but that doesn't make it true in

the aggre I'm sorry there discrimination

there's discrimination against all sorts

of people yeah is it worse against black

people or is it equal depends what part

of the country it depends what situation

and when that exists there's laws to put

people in prison if you put them all

together which race Bas discrimination I

would say probably Hispanic Americans in

certain parts of the country even more

so but but I have no data to support

that you ask me some anecdotal question

I haven't done that much thinking about

it but I'll say this in

America if you make a sequence of good

choices irrelevant of skin color you

will be rewarded for those choices we're

one of the only countries in the world

where that is possible where you can

have intergenerational Ascension where

your kids can be better than how you are

today that's like kind of a fallacy it's

not a fallacy that's why Asian

that's why Asian amans entered in the40s

as the poorest group in America and

they're now the richest group The

constition was not written in Korean yet

they they have benefited the most from

what people call a white predominant

Society indian-americans for example

from India are the second richest per

race was the contitution written in

Hindi no that's exactly the point oh

okay got you the point is that people

say that our society is rigged for white

individuals white men the evidence does

not suggest that there's twice as many

white people living in poverty today

than black people now the rate for

poverty in the black community is much

higher but the aggregate number is

something that should not be ignored so

that the misconception that our country

is rigged Just For People based on a

certain skin color has zero evidence yet

that is the predominant thing that is

being taught in our University why did

it stop what do you mean when did that

when did be rigged because it clearly

used to be rigged you're saying it isn't

now that's a fair point I'd say

throughout the 60s and 70s and 80s as

America got significantly less racist as

we passed the Civil Rights Act things

got more Equitable in the sense where

better decisions got rewarded more and

you don't think that there could be a

lag effect of 350 years of slavery in

100 Years of Jim Pro I think those

inequities have been more balanced out

more so than it's even worth considering

that that 350 years of inequity for

example asian-americans built the the

railroad system in America in the late

19 in the late uh 1800s early 1900s in

America we put Japanese Americans in

internment camps in the

1940s Jewish Americans had an

extermination order against them in

Europe in the 1940s the point being is

that right so almost every racial ethnic

group has had some form of

suffering so to point to something that

happened a very very long time ago and

to attribute the inequities today wasn't

that long ago though when was when was

slavery abolished slavery was abolished

in 1808 the international slave trade

was uh was uh was gotten rid of but then

we actually resorted to Chad slavery

which is where we bred them uh like

cattle you're not going to hear me

defend slavery for a second I

mean one of great sins of the americ

it's one of the great sins of the

American story but you know what's also

admirable about it how we got rid of

slavery admirable about slavery no no

what's admirable about our history not

about sler okay thank you but we still

have dealt with like repercussions what

what repercussions would that me the

lack of the ability for certain people

people well such as who I don't know

like I was down in New Orleans right and

I see all these mansions and it's like

those people their old Mansions they

made their money they're probably slave

owners then you go into the black

neighborhood and SL they might have been

slave owners in

1865 accumulated wealth that can

compound

versus people that don't have the

opportunity okay so you're you're making

a fair point that there might be

intergen intergenerational inequity how

do you go about that well some people on

the left would say you tax it you take

away from what people used to have I

totally and completely disagree with

that what do you think then what is your

case do reparations then there's no

reparations I believe an opportunity

instead of trying to fix the past which

will never happen which is a horrible

idea you create a better future it'll

never happen no cuz you know why any

country that's ever tried reparations

has failed miserably South Africa for

example they've tried reparations the

last 30 years they're more racially

divided on the brink of Civil War than

they ever have been you think we're on

the brink of the Civil War I hope not

you think so no I said I hope not but I

asked if you think so no I don't think

we are but it's people on the left that

want us to be more divided than not no I

think it's like you you're here trying

to divide hold on a second do you

support black only

dormitories sure you do okay that's re

segregation you realize that no I think

if black people want to do that we

should allow them to because they have

to face well then would you support

white only dormitor no why cuz it's a

pretty much the school is white only

pretty much every is wide open I don't

know the demographic makeup of Oregon

but I would looking around I'd say it's

a more diverse campus than just being a

white only campus black people want yeah

so you believe in black only graduation

ceremonies at Harvard if they want that

sure why do I care why does it bug me

well it should bug you that re

segregating

the difference white people say black

people have to what's the difference of

skin color what's the difference between

a white person and a black person tell

you tell me what's the difference

between a white person and a black

person I don't know there's no

difference they're both human beings

there One race a human race differently

how are they treated differently give me

one piece of evidence what can a black

person not do in America that I can do

they get treated differently by the

police and I've seen it really yeah even

though the data shows that a black

person data can be used to lie

matter police departments are actually

capable of policing their own records so

the the ability even though most of the

inner city police forces are black

majority police forces are they such as

Philadelphia Philadelphia is a 44% black

city with a 56% black police force you

no it actually gives me happiness that

yeah cuz I I I care about all people and

I don't look at people on based on race

like you so you're postracial absolutely

CU it does not you're the one that wants

black only graduation ceremonies and

black only dormitories what you're okay

with them I'm not okay with that yeah we

segregated America we we because that

argument works for you and it's not

desegregated there's still a lot of

problems and like to say that people

want to have but the problems are not

based on race yeah they are of racial

problems in America you have yet to give

me any evidence or data or one piece you

believe that there are any racial

problems individually absolutely are

there indiv usually committed people

that are racist 100% do you believe that

there are President Trump is one of the

least racist people in America do you

believe no give me one give me one

evidence that he's racist how about he

got caught discriminating against giving

out uh complet total false not true

whatsoever you not wait no would a

racist president such as president

Donald Trump put a black woman as the

first Army Sergeant ever in United

States Army I'm not racist have a black

the first Army Sergeant the first Army

Sergeant ever in the history of of the

US Army that that's not true the first

woman Battalion Commander you can look

it up confirmed by the United States

Senate the first black woman confirmed

by the United States Senate in a

position of the United States Army ever

here's a very simple question for you at

what point does someone stop being a

racist in your mind I haven't thought

about you haven't thought about yet

you're quick delayable but you're not

quick to retract or have a line in your

head that's pretty dangerous isn't it

when they die when they die that's

pretty Sinister do you think I'm a

racist yeah are you a racist hold on a

second he thinks I'm a racist why would

you say I'm a racist just the stuff

you're saying name one thing up said

that's ever racist whatever I'm not

going to play that game with you