I Spent $4000 Rebuilding the Twike and Immediately Crashed It
Summary
TLDRThe transcript details a lengthy process of restoring and upgrading an electric Twike three-wheeled vehicle. It begins with replacing the unsafe lithium battery pack with a new custom 9 kWh pack with proper cell monitoring. Other upgrades include dual voltage charging, a new rear window, fixing paint and canopy issues, brake light repairs, a new rear cargo shelf, and more. Despite underestimating the time and cost required, which ended up totaling around $4500, the meticulous restoration process results in a much improved Twike that is ready for future video filming.
Takeaways
- 😀 Robert restored a 3-wheeled electric vehicle called a Twike
- 🚗 The Twike had issues with the battery, steering, brakes, etc that Robert fixed
- 🔋 Robert built a new, safer 9 kWh battery pack for the Twike
- ⚡ The Twike has a top speed of 60 mph but the steering is very twitchy
- 😨 On the first test drive, Robert crashed the Twike into a ditch
- 😅 The crash was caused by Robert's butt inadvertently locking the steering
- 🛠 Robert spent way more time and money restoring the Twike than planned
- 🎥 The script is for a video Robert already filmed showing the Twike restoration
- 📅 The video script refers to events happening in the past, present and future
- 🏁 After many trials, the Twike restoration is finally complete
Q & A
What was the initial problem with the Twike that needed fixing?
-The Twike had issues with the canopy seals needing resealing and reattachment. The rear window had also been removed by the owner to get better access to the components in the back.
What was the main problem with the existing Twike battery pack?
-The main problem was that it did not have a proper battery management system (BMS). This meant there was no individual cell monitoring or balancing. Without a BMS, the cells could get dangerously overcharged.
Why did the owner decide to build a new battery pack for the Twike?
-Even if the original pack had not been damaged, the owner likely would have built a new one anyway since the original design was unsafe without a proper BMS.
What capacity and voltage is the new Twike battery pack?
-The new pack is 9kWh capacity with a nominal voltage of 36-38V (configured as a 98S pack).
What charging system components were added or replaced on the Twike?
-A new BMS system was added with satelite units and master control unit. A new 2.5kW Thunderstruck Motors charger was also installed, along with a J1772 charge port.
What drove the cost overrun of the Twike restoration project?
-In addition to the $900 spent on new battery cells, around $3000 was spent on the BMS and charging components. More was also spent on new wiring, switches, the rear window, canopy work, etc. The total came to around $4500.
What happened to cause the owner to crash the Twike on its first test drive?
-The steering tiller unexpectedly locked up. When the owner tried to brake, he realized his shoelaces were tangled in the bike chain, preventing him from braking. In a panic, he improperly activated the e-brake, failing to stop the vehicle before crashing.
How did the owner determine what caused the tiller to lock up?
-Upon reviewing footage of the incident, the owner realized that by twisting in the driver's seat, his butt had pressed down the tiller lock button, locking the steering in place.
What final testing did the owner need to complete after finishing the restoration work?
-The owner still needed to fully charge, discharge, and cycle the new battery pack, and validate proper functioning when integrated with the Twike's existing computer systems.
Was the extensive restoration work financially worthwhile for the video content produced?
-No, the owner estimated both the restoration costs and the value of the resulting video content likely did not outweigh the amount of money and time invested in the project.
Outlines
😀 Introducting the Twike project
The narrator introduces a video project documenting the restoration of a three-wheeled electric vehicle called a Twike. The Twike is currently non-operational and needs repairs. The narrator will be upgrading the battery pack, canopy, rear window, and other components.
🛠️ Repairing the canopy
The narrator removes the remaining paint from the Twike's canopy where it had worn off. He masks off areas not to be painted, repaints the canopy black where needed, and reattaches it using adhesive. Some issues later arise with paint pulling away from the canopy.
🔋 Assembling the new battery pack
The narrator explains issues with the Twike's original lithium battery pack related to lack of cell monitoring and balancing. He assembles a new higher voltage pack from salvaged 18650 cells and adds a BMS system for monitoring and balancing. Cells are bottom balanced before assembly.
⚡ Wiring up the BMS
The narrator wires together the BMS components for the new battery pack and tests communication between them. Some troubleshooting is required to get all satellite units communicating properly. Cells are then balanced and charged.
🚗 First test drive!
The high voltage system is connected and the Twike driven for the first time. The narrator discovers wiring needed to allow drive mode and other aspects of the Twike's operation.
😱 Crashing the Twike
While test driving the Twike on public roads, the narrator accidentally locks the steering and crashes into a ditch. Upon review, the cause is found to be accidental steering lock engagement by the narrator's body positioning.
🪟 Installing new rear window
To replace the missing rear window, the narrator cuts a new polycarbonate window and adheres it using automotive windshield adhesive. Additional vinyl tape is added to improve the canopy's appearance.
🛻 Completing the restoration
The electrical restoration is nearing completion but high voltage testing remains. A custom mahogany and aluminum rear shelf is constructed to replace the original. Total cost and time exceeded initial estimates.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡twike
💡battery pack
💡BMS
💡high voltage
💡tiller
💡canopy
💡DC-to-DC converter
💡windshield wiper
💡brake switch
💡rear window
Highlights
The twike battery pack had no battery management system or individual cell monitoring, making it unsafe.
The old twike battery pack experienced overcharging issues that damaged cells.
Built a new 9 kWh battery pack with proper BMS for cell monitoring and balancing.
Had issues getting all BMS satellites to communicate and learned the hard way about bottom vs top balancing cells.
Added a new 2.5 kW thunderstruck charger with dual voltage charging capabilities.
The twike has a convoluted "driveway protection loop" to shift between drive and charge mode.
Replaced the analog loop with a relay triggered by the BMS master control unit.
Had first test drive crash because the steering tiller locked and brakes failed simultaneously.
Learned the steering tiller can lock if pressed down while turning, easily done by leaning body.
Spent way more money and time restoring the twike than expected - estimated 1 month initially.
Spent nearly $4500 on parts and upgrades to restore the electric twike vehicle.
Battery upgrades alone were about $900 for new cells and $3000 for accompanying equipment.
The project took almost 3 months working on and off to complete all updates and fixes.
New custom mahogany and aluminum cargo shelf took 3 weeks to design and build.
After all repairs and changes the twike is ready for final testing and validation.
Transcripts
I can't break with
my oh
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oh it's the twike but you already know
that because you've already seen the
video where I tell you everything about
this and how silly it is but that video
was shot in the future presently it's
the past and right now the twike is
inoperable and it needs some work the
canopy needs some resealing and
reattaching I popped out the rear window
to get better access to the going Zone
back here but it's not in the best shape
so I need to make a new rear window for
it but most importantly the battery
package shot so I need to build a new
one for it although even if it wasn't
shot I'd probably still build a new pack
for it because the way they designed
this battery pack is not good or safe so
let's do those things that didn't
latch let's do something about this
canopy
now that was too easy which is why I
need to fix
it all of these scuffed areas is around
the edge and down the center spine is
where it's supposed to be painted black
and where it was painted black at one
point in time but as you can see most of
that paint has fallen off so I need to
remove the remaining paint what little
of it is left mask off the areas that
are not supposed to have paint and then
reapply black paint where there should
be black paint and while that's drying I
should probably start scraping off the
adhesive that looks good even if I do
say so myself it's not glued in yet I'm
going to give the paint more time to
cure to give it a better chance of
holding on and I probably need someone
to help me lower this down into place
without smearing the adhesive all over
the place but the paint job looks
good there we go there we go got
it several days later some cosmetic
issues have popped up at the canopy what
I think happened is the windshield
adhesive that I used as it cured
contracted slightly and there's some
places where the paint is is pulling
away from the canopy it is still very
firmly glued in place it is basically
irremovable right now so I'm not going
to do anything about it but you can see
where the paint is being slightly tugged
away from the canopy and it really
bothers me two things that make me feel
better about this though twike also
screwed this up that's why I had to
reglue the canopy because all of the
paint detached from the canopy and the
second thing is it looks better than
when I started so success now onto the
battery pack but first let me show you
all the high voltage GB in the TK this
is the main reason I popped out through
reir window it makes it much easier to
access all the crap back here first of
all yes the wiring is a mess but that is
the battery tray running the entire
width of the car leaving very little
space on either side of it this with all
the wires going into it is the main high
voltage and everything else control
board and this is the DC todc converter
from the other side you can see the
front of the tray this is what twight
calls a BMS that's where all the
thermister go into and there's some
logic and some cut off in there that's
the existing charger that I will be
bypassing and that's about it really
this is the entire battery pack out of
the twike just 3.5 kwatt hours not very
big originally the twike had a nickel
cadmium or nickel metal hydride battery
I'm not really sure and this is the
factory lithium upgrade option from
twike each module is a 4p 14s
configuration of 18650 cells there's
seven modules in total wired in series
for a total pack nominal voltage of 36
62 volts easily the highest voltage to
capacity Raco I've ever seen luckily the
reason they went with such a high
voltage on such a small Vehicles because
the peak power draw on the twik motor is
only 9 Kow if it's even that and because
this is such a high voltage the amperage
is basically nothing and they could get
away with these tiny little wires for
the main high voltage connections so
what's wrong with it why am I saying
this battery pack is a bad design and
unsafe well if you're a battery
Enthusiast you probably already noticed
what's missing each one of these modules
here has two wires coming out of it a
positive and a negative and nothing else
there's no battery management system
there's no individual cell monitoring at
all if you're not familiar with the job
of a BMS or battery management system
it'll have a balance lead going to each
individual cell in the overall Series so
it can monitor each cell group's voltage
individually to prevent overcharging
over discharging and to keep all of the
cells balanced to the same voltage
because the twike doesn't have a BMS it
has no idea what each IND individual
cell voltages and it has no way to keep
the cells in Balance so when it charges
it just charges to an overall pack
Target voltage and the charger will just
keep dumping in current until that
overall pack Target voltage is met in
normal operation this is totally fine
the cells aren't going to drift apart
very much they'll stay mostly in Balance
all on their own without any external
help and when you go to charge them
they'll all end up roughly at 4.2 volts
all on their own the problem is those
pesky edge cases let's say in an extreme
examp example you got one cell that has
a significantly lower voltage than the
rest of the pack the charger doesn't
know that so it's still going to Target
the same charging voltage for the sum of
the pack because that one cell is lower
than the rest of them to bring up the
sum voltage for the rest of the pack the
rest of the cells have to be overcharged
or for a different scenario you could
have a couple of cells that are slightly
higher voltage than the rest of the pack
again the Chargers just looking at the
sum total voltage you could have a
couple of cells that are significantly
overcharged overcharging damage the
battery but more importantly it can
cause a thermal event In fairness the
cylindrical style cell that to chose to
build a battery pack out of is less
prone to outright fire than a pouch
style cell like this one I pulled out of
a phone and overcharging is something
the previous owner of this TKE
experienced he put his T in storage
while he moved and unbeknownst to him
several of the cells in his battery pack
dropped down to Zer volts I don't know
why but the heavy corrosion here might
have something to do with it several
months later he pulled his twike out of
storage and again he didn't know that
several his cells had dropped to zero
volt so he hooked it up to charge and
the ignorant onboard charger overcharged
the vast majority of the cells in his
battery pack thankfully though nothing
happened well nothing catastrophic
anyway I mean his battery pack was toast
but given this it's probably not in the
best shape to begin with to give twike
just a little bit of credit while there
is no individual cell monitoring there
is no BMS there are therms to monitor
battery temperature and one of the
series Connections in each one of the
modules is made up by a couple thermal
fuses so your Twix battery probably
won't burst into flames but it's still
not a good design so for the new battery
pack that I'm going to build for this
twike I'm going to add a proper BMS that
can do all of the individual cell level
monitoring and I'm going to add a new
charger that communicates with that BMS
so the BMS can tell the charger to stop
charging if it detects anything off
whatsoever it's not just a safety thing
either having properly balanced cells
means you have a better battery pack if
the cells go all out of whack it reduces
its usable capacity building a new pack
starts with sourcing new battery cells I
didn't want to pay a fortune for brand
new 18 650s or 217s and then build a new
pack completely from scratch so I went
to battery hookup.com browse their
inventory and ended up with this this is
a battery module from I have no idea
what battery hookup must have bought
these wholesale or Surplus or something
importantly the cells inside are 18650s
they've never been cycled so they're
brand new there is a two cell BMS inside
here but I'm not interested in that nor
am I interested in the connector and
this was only $100 per kilowatt hour
which for brand new cells is awesome I'm
also not interested in any of this
plastic casing so let's remove the cells
first with this plastic strip that
covers the cell
Taps and then this should just pop right
off and there is the small BMS board
with connector again I'm not interested
in any of that now I can throw this away
holding these two halv together are a
bunch of
screws cut the label in half cuz that's
still retaining the two halves together
and
then the cells inside this module are in
a 2s 10p configuration I know it looks
like there's 12 cells on each side but
the two middle cells are actually just
inert pieces of plastic for spacing
these are labeled 2600 milliamp hour
which is 2.6 amp hours but I didn't just
believe that at face value I took one of
these modules apart previously fully
charged each Bank of cells up to 4.2
volts and then capacity tested them down
to 2.8 Vols and the actual capacity I
got out of them was 2.65 amp hour so
these were in perfect shape the pack I
took out of the to was in a 98s
configuration I intend to replicate that
so I bought 49 of these 2s modules the
first step I'm already working on in the
other room I'm bottom balancing all of
the cells which means I'm individually
discharging each one of these cell Banks
down to 2.8 volts using the capacity
testers I just showed you that way when
I assemble the battery pack all of these
will start out at the same state of
charge and the same voltage the first
step to building this new battery pack
is is to take these small modules and
group them together into slightly larger
modules these cells are all spot welded
together but on the other side because
this is how connections work they're
bifurcated in the middle so to join
these two halves together I'm just going
to squirt some high strength hot glue in
the middle
here to add a little more strength and
to support these spot welds I'm going to
put some glue on the edges too between
the
cells and to be clear this bead of hot
glue that I ran on the perimeter between
each cell is not necessary it's the belt
and suspender approach now to pack these
units together again using hot glue and
by the way if you think that this is too
big of a task for hot glue just know
you're wrong I uh I glued that module in
backwards okay these modules are
permanently bonded together the only way
I could think to remove them I did try a
knife it didn't work at all is with a
hot wire cutter which is about a 100
bucks on Amazon so I weighed that price
against the price of these modules which
was
$1850 per module so I bought three new
modules I'm going to forget these exist
and I'm going to be more careful from
now on hey it's me from the future I
made that mistake more times but if I
wasn't an idiot I would have realized I
didn't have to order brand new modules
and remake the stack anytime I glued one
on backwards all I have to do is cut the
series Connection in the middle of the
nickel strip and then remake that series
connection on the other side boom I
flipped it anyway back to ignorant past
Robert okay there we go making the
serious connections between these cell
groups would normally mean nickel strip
and a battery spot welder I'm not going
to do that the design of these modules
allows me to use a method that doesn't
require any specialty tooling soldering
to the end of battery cells is a bad
idea cuz that's a lot of heat being
dumped into the cell for a prolonged
period of time which damages it but in
each one of these cell groups are two
plastic cells so I can make all my
solder connections here on top of these
plastic cells and not worry about
damaging any of the battery cells there
will be some heat transfer over
obviously but not enough to damage
anything on the back side of these
modules the series connections are made
by these nickel strip Bridges bridging
between the two halves of the modules
now I calculated the current carrying
capacity of these little 0.15 mm nickel
strip Bridges here all four of them
combined and it's about 20 amps give or
take the twike will be pulling more like
30 amps so I'm going to reinforce these
with the jumper wire going across to
give it a little bit of extra current
carrying ability now to solder on all
the individual cell balance leads that
will lead up to the BMS satellite
that'll sit right about here the nice
thing about this thunderstar BMS I'm
using is that these two separate wire
harnesses despite going into the same
BMS are completely independent which
makes wire management so much easier
each half of the module gets its own
cell balance lead wiring
harness all right that's done now I need
to validate that I put them all in the
right place with this little harness
test board here and a voltmeter just
need to make sure the voltages go up in
order and I didn't skip or rearrange one
33 all right they are all
validated
now it's time to stack these two halves
on top of each other and to separate
them I've just cut this ABS sheet on the
table saw tacked on this little extra
bit cuz it was too short and to provide
some cushion I've lined this with well
it's just rubber window seal if I'm
honest I think for the remainder of
these modules I make instead of
soldering jumpers on the back I'm going
to break out the spot welder so these
can sit more flatly against each other
but this works fine for now I'm going to
put an ABS shield on both sides of the
module as well as wrap the whole thing
up but first I need to solder on on this
wire that connects the two halves
together and the positive and negative
lead that come out the top of the
module done now to answer the inevitable
question why didn't you use heat shrink
battery
[Applause]
wrap and on the bottom I put on some of
this rubber mat for abrasion resistance
where it's going to be sitting and
finally I added some THS to the back of
the module they connect to the harness
up here that plugs into the BMS
satellite and it was a pain in the butt
to put these in because this harness
that connects to the BMS satellite is
pre-wired so you got to take the little
thermister in tip and solder it onto the
cut wires thankfully this job was made
easier by my little heat shrink
connectors with the solder built into
them once the connections are made I can
slide it under the heat shrink battery
wrap and then tape the wires in place
with capton tape that smells like urine
that's one module done now I need to
will four more into existence
oh that one's all weird I made some
slight improvements as I went along on
the first two as you saw I soldered on a
wire to increase the current carrying
ability of the nickel strip on the back
and then took up the remaining Gap with
this rubber window seal on the remaining
three I just spot welded on some extra
nickel strips so these two sections fit
more closely together and I didn't need
the rubber window seal between the two
halves all the modules are in a 20s
configuration with the exception of this
one which is 18s because I wanted the
whole battery pack to be in a 98s s
configuration just like the battery pack
I took out of the twike it would have
been much more pleasing to make all
these modules the same size and make the
battery pack 100s and just increase the
voltage by these two extra cell groups
but I don't know how the Twix computer
would play well with that two extra
cells worth of voltage very likely
wouldn't do anything at all especially
since I'm not reusing the twi stock
charger but I don't know so I played it
safe and went with the same
configuration I took out of it the
capacity of this new pack 9 KW hours
gross almost triple the capacity of the
original pack pack BMS time just like
with my previous lithium converted mower
project I'll be using components from
thunder struck Motors not sponsored and
I paid for it myself I just really like
their stuff I'll be using five of these
BMS 24 BMS satellite units one for each
module to control the BMS and the
charger I'm using their MCU or master
control unit and this is the new charger
I'm going with a TSM 2500 also from
thunderstuck TSM is just thunder struck
Motors this is a 2.5 Kow charger plenty
for this application 3 Days Later here's
my bench test setup I've got my five BMS
satellites all wired up and strapped to
their respective modules got an MCU to
control everything I've got the charger
and I have a j1772 port and when I plug
in the charging
cable it works I've got it turned down
to 5 amps for now but it do work this is
a very basic and easy setup the reason
it took me so long to get it working is
because I had a few issues along the way
when I first wired up these satellites
the MCU did not see the last unit in the
daisy chain I even tried switching the
modules it was consistently the last
satellite that it wouldn't see so I
emailed thunder struck about this and it
turns out four satellite units is the
limit of one daisy chain so at least one
of these had to be moved to the second
bus on the board I chose to wire two of
them on the bus cuz I don't know it
looks nicer once I got all the BMS
satellites to properly communicate I
encountered another issue first of all
the cell voltages weren't all quite as
similar as I expected given I bought and
balanced all the Cs beforehand but there
were two CS in particular that were
dramatically higher than the rest of
them because somehow I forgot to bottom
balance beforehand so I had to do that
while they were in the module which was
easy enough to do I just used the BMS
harness tester board as a breakout board
to individually discharge the two
offending cells but because these cell
tap wires and the traces on that board
are so thin I only discharg them at 1
amp compared to the three amps that I
discharged all the rest of the cells in
this pack at for bottom balancing and
that's a problem because the lower draw
you put on the cell the more you'll get
out of it so when I got everything
hooked back up together rather than
those two cells being at 3.4 volts like
the rest of the pack they were at 3.1 so
I had to then charge them back up again
a little bit to match the rest of the
pack and then I had a whoopsie I
accidentally touched two of these wires
together shorted them out and then
melted one of the traces on the cell
harness test board right there fixed it
I tested the absolute limits of my
soldering ability by soldering ing this
jumper onto that tiny little surface
mount pin down there once that was
sorted then I could charge those two
cells up to 3.4 volts couple things I
learned from this experience one I
didn't need the bottom balance all the
way down to the low voltage cut off of
2.8 volts I could have picked a higher
value I didn't need to drain the cells
completely and two and this is something
the Thunder stroke guys told me top
balancing is more reliable rather than
discharging all the cells to the same
value charging them up to the same
voltage is more reliable as I showed
with these two cells here if you dis
charge them at a different rate they end
up at a different place than all the
rest of the cells because I bottom
balance these my voltages are kind of
all over the place if I type show cells
my voltage is range from about 3.41 all
the way to 3.44 which given I balanced
these beforehand is not all that similar
the thunderstroke BMS does have passive
balancing though which I can enable
using enable balance and now it will
balance all the cells and I just found
out another new thing BV Min is the
minimum voltage value of this cells will
balance at default was 4 volts so I
lowered that down to 3.5 volts and now
you can see all of the high cells that
it's discharging using passive balancing
okay after about an hour and a half of
charging with balancing enables the
cells are a lot more in line than they
started out because I'm putting a new
charger in here you might think that
I'll remove this old one but no for now
and possibly permanently it's staying in
there because I took the cover off and
look at how many communication wires
come out of the charger and go to the
main l board I don't know what most of
those do the new charger also comes with
another upgrade that I didn't think
about originally the twike did not have
dual voltage charging for the US market
it was 120 volts or bust but the
previous owner of this upgraded it to
dual voltage
charging here's that upgrade two
extension cords hardwired to it this one
is for 120 volt this one is for 240
volts you have to switch between them
with a toggle switch all of this is that
double extension cord mess with the
toggle switch there and some other stuff
I will be removing all of this as well
but again I'm going to wait to make sure
all of the new stuff works first the
inputs I need from the twike to the MCU
are very simple I just need power ground
and a key switch input the key switch
input I think I can just tap off of this
on switch on the dash here but the power
and ground is actually a little more
complicated because this has a 12volt
system but it doesn't have a permanent
12volt Source it doesn't have a battery
just has the DC todc converter back
there and no place to store that energy
so I have to add a battery to it all
right I've been putting it off because
I'm nervous but let's go ahead and put
the batteries in here right after I
mount this on jack stands for
safety off with your diaper or
Underpants now let's move on to putting
the batteries in here right after I get
some hardboard to fill out the floor
I'll be I'm going to go with town real
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quick this tray doesn't have a flat
floor this is sunk down below this
angled lip so I just cut this to give it
a flat floor okay now we can move on to
putting the batteries in Okay negative
most battery module which I have labeled
one NE now these modules barely fit with
the BMS strapped on the front here which
is kind of perfect cuz it'll sandwich
them in place and I am going to reuse
these therms because they're there why
not go ahead and tape them back in
place the BMS the charger all that stuff
isn't installed yet but the high voltage
is connected so let's power on the twike
for the first time and see what happens
happens I don't know what's going to
happen possibly nothing let's first trip
the breaker high voltage going live
now nothing happened okay let's undo the
or open or whatever EOP
off it's making
noises this is a thing there's a light
this is the first time I've ever seen
the twike with power running through it
I'm discovering all sorts of things you
have to hear this blinker sound it's the
dumbest thing ever
what is that okay we got to try drive we
got to try Drive let's put it in
Drive what will
happen nothing all right I couldn't
figure out why the twike wouldn't go
into drive so I called the previous
owner who has been extremely helpful in
this project and found out something you
know I said this extension cord Mass I'm
going to leave it be until I make sure
everything works and then I can slowly
remove things well that was true it
except for this this is a little pigtail
it was only connected to the board with
the ground wire going to a spade
connector I removed it because I looked
at this and thought this is a vestigial
charge cable I don't need this anymore I
was wrong this is the driveway
protection bypass Loop to make it go
into drive you take the 120 volt
extension cable which is here and plug
it into this so that it lets the twike
know that it's not charging anymore and
this connects to the board you have to
plug the twike into itself right now to
to make it work I'm going to make this
better but for now let's just go ahead
and do this so we can see spinny twike
Wheels it's in
forward spiny
wheels off camera I made this bracket
out of aluminum I didn't film making it
because I didn't feel like it and that
bracket goes right here it's held in by
these screws that go directly into the
plastic which I don't trust at all so
I'm using six of them and being careful
not to overtighten them on top are these
two Riv nuts and I also put these two
Riv nuts back here these Riv nuts go
into again plastic which I don't super
trust so I put epoxy around them to keep
the riv nuts from Breaking Free or
spinning out and on top of them sits the
new thunder struck
charger I recognize that I'm bias but I
think this new install looks better than
the old one by the way this box here
that I've been referring to is the
charger it occurred to at some point
this might also be the motor inverter
the charge port should go right about
here this feels so
wrong here's the pinning of a j1772 port
if you were curious and now it all goes
into here all right let's take the
protective film off of this mounting
tape that I added for
waterproofing all
right charge port installated wiring is
done and it's charging now there's the
new charger there's the MCU there's the
charge port and the charge port wiring
going from the port to the charger
there's a bunch of new wiring going from
the MCU to the everything else there's a
new relay I added and there's an alarm
buzzer and there's the new 12vt battery
I added now let's back up a second so I
can show you how I got here I mentioned
the twike doesn't currently have a
12volt battery so I need to add one in
order for the MCU to function properly
so to add one I 3D printed this thing
then I screwed these other things to the
side of the thing I 3D printed and that
thing is a battery tray and it goes into
the twi's existing battery tray where
there's currently a gap and here's that
new 12volt battery post wiring for the
key switch input required by the MCU I
removed this top panel out of the Pod
here soldered a wire to the back of the
power switch fish that wire down through
the back tube the Pod is mounted on
which ended up being incredibly
difficult and required the use of a
boroscope you can see the reason I
needed the boroscope is cuz the bottom
of this tube had a circular hole and had
trouble feeding the wire through that
but now it's in and put the panel back
in place to keep the 12 battery I added
charged up I connected it up to the
output of the DC to DC through a diode
so the battery can't back feed into the
DC to DC and something I just found out
that DC to DC converter on board is
always active even with the twike off
and the EOP button pressed in and
activated as long as the high voltage
battery is connected that DC todc
converter is putting out 12 volts so
really I don't even think I needed to
add the 12volt battery I'm glad I did
it's a more robust solution but I don't
think it was strictly necessary I
already shows you the nasty manual
driveway protection Loop where the Tok
has to be plugged into itself in order
to be able to go into drive and when
it's unplug that puts it into charge
mode and even with the switch off the
twike is powered on for charging or
whatever reason they had I replaced all
this nastiness with a relay all that was
happening when I plugged the to into
itself was I was connecting a spay
connector on the main board to ground so
I replaced the manual way of doing that
with a normally closed relay that is
triggered by an output on the MCU an
output that I have programmed to be
active in other words the relay opens
when I plug it into charge so when I
plug this into charge you'll be able to
hear the relay click and the twike will
come alive which is what it did when
charging for whatever
reason low voltage cut off I didn't add
one because I kind of can't with the way
the tce configured if I had a high
voltage disconnect in there anyway to be
triggered when there's a low voltage
situation the toy would have to reboot
it's a whole thing wouldn't work
properly but I did add a low voltage
alarm in the center console between the
seats I cut a hole stuck an alarm in
there and now that buzzer is triggered
by an output on the MCU that was
programmed to be on if there's a low
pack condition or a low voltage
condition on any of the cells something
else I changed is this key down here on
the side of this C console this was the
high voltage cut off trigger that key
when turned would trip this breaker here
and disconnect the high voltage
theoretically anyway the problem was you
had to have power running through it for
this remote key trigger to actually trip
that breaker and even then it wasn't
100% reliable and then to reactivate to
untrip the breaker you still had to take
the high voltage cover off everything to
reexpose that breaker so I've just
disconnected the whole stupid key
assembly put a label above it that says
this key does nothing and now to
disconnect or reconnect the high voltage
you have to access this breaker and hit
the button on the top the brake lights
have an issue too they do work but the
signaling to them is all faulty the
brake switch is bad for one but that's
okay because the previous owner gave me
two spare brake switches another problem
is the connection to the board there's a
little plug down here and the pins in
that little plug are all wallered out so
I took the plug out took a picture of it
sent it to a friend who's really good at
identifying connectors and within 5
minutes he identified it properly and I
was able to order a new plug from Digi
key here's the new pins in the header I
ordered I crimp the pins on the end of
the wire with my crimping tool snap the
pins into the new header and then
soldered the new stub onto the end of
the old brake switch cable job done this
brake switch is also so bad these two
prongs work but these two don't and
these are the ones that I need so
luckily I have a replacement right here
I put a silicone mat underneath this in
case it leaks breake FL which I know it
will now let's test it when I press down
the brake
pedal this contact and this contact
should
close and they don't the previous owner
this gave me two brake switches but
turns out they were used I cut one open
to see what was wrong with with it the
seal had leaked and the contacts were
all corroded so I went and bought a new
brake switch I looked up the part number
on the back of this one turns out this
is a brake switch for a Volkswagen
Vanagon so I went and found another
let's install
it now let's test it brake lights all I
needed was a new Switch and a new plug
back there good news I got the twike
registered right it is not ready I still
have a bunch of wiring to clean up
there's no rear window I didn't put the
mirrors back on or anything but it's
going to rain the next two days and I
want to take this thing for a test drive
before it gets dark my leg's already
cramping it's a good
sign oh my
God I moved 2 Ines
[Music]
whoa whoa what A noise
too oh my God back pedal okay we got to
try out the
brakes oh this is terrifying oh my God
I'm going to drive this on the
road
oh my God I'm doing
[Music]
it Jesus shift the shifter seems to not
be doing
anything all right that was
25
Jesus no thank you oh
regen wow the front end is so already
holy
[Laughter]
crap oh my
God holy crap why is this front end so
bad I am never doing highway speeds in
this absolutely no way it's happening oh
my
God I think I kicked it out of gear yeah
the pedal's not doing anything I can't
break with my
oh
[Music]
oh yes that's right the first time I
ever drive the twike on the road I crash
it I drive it right off the road into a
ditch up an embankment so what happened
cuz I reviewed the footage after the
accident and it looked like I just
decided to start panicking and have an
accident what happened was three things
right in a row the steering in tiller
locked up you couldn't really tell this
was happening on camera but you could
sure see the Panic set in on my face
when I realized the steering was locked
up then I tried to push the brakes at
which point I realized my shoelaces were
Tangled in the bike chain and I couldn't
push the brakes down anymore and then in
a panic I tried to set the E bra but I
got confused in the panic and instead of
pushing forward on it I pulled back on
it which just releases it again so yeah
I had an accident and immediately
following the accident I was very
confused and couldn't even figure out
how to open the canopy where's the
button oh wow I just had an
accident come on nothing was harmed on
me or the twike thankfully before the
test drive I didn't reinstall the arrow
underbody shielding down here if I had
reinstalled that before that test drive
that Hill would have ripped it clean off
okay but how did the tiller
spontaneously lock while I was driving
it well as it turns out the twike wasn't
designed for Fat American butts here's
how the steering tiller Lock Works you
twist the key and then you push down
when you push down that's what engages
the lock and keeps the tiller from
moving past this position here's the key
here's my butt I made a left turn before
the tiller locked up and this is how
that turned out I'm turning the key with
my butt and all I have to do is lean
over a little bit and I can very easily
with my butt press down on this and lock
the tiller in place thankfully the
tiller didn't lock lock in place I was
just holding down on that tumbler with
my butt and as soon as I got got up off
of it when I hit the ditch the tiller
was unlocked again but that was
terrifying from now on I take the key
out before I ever drive the twike hey
it's me from the future about that
Twitchy steering after I released the
last video both the previous owner of my
twike and twike the company reached out
to me to let me know that my steering
appears to be twitchier than normal
twike even sent me a whole list of
things that could possibly be wrong with
my Twi causing the extra Twitchy
steering I haven't had time to go
through this list yet but I thought I'd
let you know that apparently my steering
is twitchier than normal in a twike now
back to the past on to the rear window
to make a replacement window I bought a
piece of UV and scratch resistant
polycarbonate to cut it to shape I used
the old window as a template and cut out
the new window with a flush trim bit in
the router and to glue it in place I
used regular automotive windshield
adhesive which was probably
Overkill broke the tube open on the side
I guess I'm done putting it in there
this is my clamping mechanism to hold it
in place while the polyurethane cures
and makes my terrible job permanent I
Then followed that up with a bead of
black silicone around the edge to add
prettiness and to fill in this lip that
would have otherwise collected water you
probably already noticed in the previous
video that that glue bead is visible and
it looks awful if I wasn't an idiot I
would have seen this coming and I would
have put a vinyl border around the
inside of the window to hide the glue
seam like all car windshields do but I
am an idiot and I didn't think to do
that ahead of time it's still totally
possible to add a border to the inside
now but with the window in place it's
much harder to do so so I'm just going
to leave it for now whatever it can look
ugly speaking of insightly glue-ups the
canopy I was not happy with how the
canopy looked where the paint was
slightly pulling away from the canopy
was unsightly and it bothered me so I
covered it up with vinyl tape black
vinyl tape over all of the areas where
there was black paint underneath the
canopy this was super tedious especially
right here where I had to make it match
this curve to make it match this curve I
laid down masking tape to make my
template and then I peeled that shape up
and placed it over vinyl wrap and cut
out the vinyl wrap to match the masking
tape template it was a lot of work but
it looks so much better now I'm very
happy I did that this is essentially a
coverup job but it looks much better
there is one downside though there's
vinyl tape here where the windshield
wiper sits so if you use this windshield
wiper it'll swipe past the edges of this
vinyl tape strip and slowly peel it up
and I'm totally okay with that because
if you use this windshield wiper on this
polycarbonate it'll scratch the absolute
crap out of it so I'm okay with use of
the windshield wiper being decentivize I
removed all the old charge cabling this
was satisfying to get rid of I cleaned
up all the new wiring I added and
crucially to signify the danger all the
high voltage connections I've wrapped in
Orange tape for configuration I set the
charger to charge up to 4.1 volts per
cell which is about 90% capacity for
longevity low voltage cut off is 3.3
volts and while the charger is capable
of 2.5 Kow of output I have it turned
down to 1.4 Kow on both 120 and 240 all
of this is very easily changeable should
I decide to change it later the
electrical stuff is mostly done but
before I call it fully done I need to
fully charge it fully discharge it run
it through some charge discharge cycles
and just test it to make sure
everything's okay I'm not worried about
the system that I added I'm worried
about how the system I added plays with
the stock Twi computer there could be
some complications that I'm not aware of
just yet but that's going to wait
because real winter is set in and it's
very cold and salty outside and finally
this is the shelf that came with the
twike sat in the back it covered all the
high voltage bits you could put your
Cargo in here Etc two problems with this
shelf one the new battery pack that I
built is taller than the old one by
quite a substantial margin which meant
this is now too low and actually rubs on
the high voltage cables on the top of
the battery pack which not ideal the
second problem with it is this is almost
impossible to get in and out of the back
of the to my understanding is this was
for for safety so you couldn't
willy-nilly take the Shelf out and have
access to all the high voltage
components but I wanted to improve this
so I made my own shelf for the back of
the twike out of mahogany and aluminum
and I didn't record any of it because I
thought it was just going to be a quick
side quest I don't know why I thought
that I spent 3 weeks on it the new shelf
is in three technically four pieces to
make it easier to install in place
here's the back piece that screws onto
this back
plate you can see the four little L
brackets coming off the bottom with Riv
nuts in them that's where the back of
the Shelf sits and bolts into then
there's the front piece which sits just
behind this support bar I also added
this laser cut piece of acrylic that's
held in place by magnets this is the
access to the high voltage disconnect
switch behind it and finally the Shelf
which is hinged in the middle you can
see the underside of it these are the
brackets that bolt through here and it's
tinged in the middle so I can actually
get it in and out of there unlike the
old shelf which was just an impossible
puzzle
like I said I massively overdid that
shelf but I like it so there and that's
it it's done now like I said I still
have to do some high voltage validation
testing and possibly some changes based
on that testing but by and large it's
done now I spent so much more time and
money than I thought I was going to on
this stupid thing I estimated in my head
that it would take about a month to do
everything I spent almost that much time
on just the Shelf in the back again that
wasn't solid work that was off and on
work but still and as far as money goes
well on the battery cells that wasn't
bad at all I spent about $900 for 9
kilowatt hours that's pretty good but
then there was the BMS the MCU the
charger the charge port all of that
stuff added up to about
$3,000 and then there was all the extra
wiring stuff that I had to get on top of
that plus all the other stuff that I did
on the to this new rear window all the
work I did on the canopy the brake
switches some other stuff I'm probably
forgetting I think I think I spent about
$4,500 restoring essentially this twike
which not worth it no I mean will I get
that much from the videos that I make on
it also probably not
so this an ill advised project but I'm
really happy with the end result I don't
often get time to sink as much time as I
want to into a project I did get that
opportunity with the twike and I kind of
wish I hadn't but anyway it's ready to
film the video that you've already seen
now so I'm going to go do that bye
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