I Spent $4000 Rebuilding the Twike and Immediately Crashed It

Aging Wheels
28 Jan 202438:30

Summary

TLDRThe transcript details a lengthy process of restoring and upgrading an electric Twike three-wheeled vehicle. It begins with replacing the unsafe lithium battery pack with a new custom 9 kWh pack with proper cell monitoring. Other upgrades include dual voltage charging, a new rear window, fixing paint and canopy issues, brake light repairs, a new rear cargo shelf, and more. Despite underestimating the time and cost required, which ended up totaling around $4500, the meticulous restoration process results in a much improved Twike that is ready for future video filming.

Takeaways

  • 😀 Robert restored a 3-wheeled electric vehicle called a Twike
  • 🚗 The Twike had issues with the battery, steering, brakes, etc that Robert fixed
  • 🔋 Robert built a new, safer 9 kWh battery pack for the Twike
  • ⚡ The Twike has a top speed of 60 mph but the steering is very twitchy
  • 😨 On the first test drive, Robert crashed the Twike into a ditch
  • 😅 The crash was caused by Robert's butt inadvertently locking the steering
  • 🛠 Robert spent way more time and money restoring the Twike than planned
  • 🎥 The script is for a video Robert already filmed showing the Twike restoration
  • 📅 The video script refers to events happening in the past, present and future
  • 🏁 After many trials, the Twike restoration is finally complete

Q & A

  • What was the initial problem with the Twike that needed fixing?

    -The Twike had issues with the canopy seals needing resealing and reattachment. The rear window had also been removed by the owner to get better access to the components in the back.

  • What was the main problem with the existing Twike battery pack?

    -The main problem was that it did not have a proper battery management system (BMS). This meant there was no individual cell monitoring or balancing. Without a BMS, the cells could get dangerously overcharged.

  • Why did the owner decide to build a new battery pack for the Twike?

    -Even if the original pack had not been damaged, the owner likely would have built a new one anyway since the original design was unsafe without a proper BMS.

  • What capacity and voltage is the new Twike battery pack?

    -The new pack is 9kWh capacity with a nominal voltage of 36-38V (configured as a 98S pack).

  • What charging system components were added or replaced on the Twike?

    -A new BMS system was added with satelite units and master control unit. A new 2.5kW Thunderstruck Motors charger was also installed, along with a J1772 charge port.

  • What drove the cost overrun of the Twike restoration project?

    -In addition to the $900 spent on new battery cells, around $3000 was spent on the BMS and charging components. More was also spent on new wiring, switches, the rear window, canopy work, etc. The total came to around $4500.

  • What happened to cause the owner to crash the Twike on its first test drive?

    -The steering tiller unexpectedly locked up. When the owner tried to brake, he realized his shoelaces were tangled in the bike chain, preventing him from braking. In a panic, he improperly activated the e-brake, failing to stop the vehicle before crashing.

  • How did the owner determine what caused the tiller to lock up?

    -Upon reviewing footage of the incident, the owner realized that by twisting in the driver's seat, his butt had pressed down the tiller lock button, locking the steering in place.

  • What final testing did the owner need to complete after finishing the restoration work?

    -The owner still needed to fully charge, discharge, and cycle the new battery pack, and validate proper functioning when integrated with the Twike's existing computer systems.

  • Was the extensive restoration work financially worthwhile for the video content produced?

    -No, the owner estimated both the restoration costs and the value of the resulting video content likely did not outweigh the amount of money and time invested in the project.

Outlines

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😀 Introducting the Twike project

The narrator introduces a video project documenting the restoration of a three-wheeled electric vehicle called a Twike. The Twike is currently non-operational and needs repairs. The narrator will be upgrading the battery pack, canopy, rear window, and other components.

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🛠️ Repairing the canopy

The narrator removes the remaining paint from the Twike's canopy where it had worn off. He masks off areas not to be painted, repaints the canopy black where needed, and reattaches it using adhesive. Some issues later arise with paint pulling away from the canopy.

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🔋 Assembling the new battery pack

The narrator explains issues with the Twike's original lithium battery pack related to lack of cell monitoring and balancing. He assembles a new higher voltage pack from salvaged 18650 cells and adds a BMS system for monitoring and balancing. Cells are bottom balanced before assembly.

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⚡ Wiring up the BMS

The narrator wires together the BMS components for the new battery pack and tests communication between them. Some troubleshooting is required to get all satellite units communicating properly. Cells are then balanced and charged.

20:03

🚗 First test drive!

The high voltage system is connected and the Twike driven for the first time. The narrator discovers wiring needed to allow drive mode and other aspects of the Twike's operation.

25:04

😱 Crashing the Twike

While test driving the Twike on public roads, the narrator accidentally locks the steering and crashes into a ditch. Upon review, the cause is found to be accidental steering lock engagement by the narrator's body positioning.

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🪟 Installing new rear window

To replace the missing rear window, the narrator cuts a new polycarbonate window and adheres it using automotive windshield adhesive. Additional vinyl tape is added to improve the canopy's appearance.

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🛻 Completing the restoration

The electrical restoration is nearing completion but high voltage testing remains. A custom mahogany and aluminum rear shelf is constructed to replace the original. Total cost and time exceeded initial estimates.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡twike

The twike is the main vehicle that is being worked on and modified throughout the video. It is a small electric vehicle created by the company Twike. The video focuses on restoring and upgrading the twike by rebuilding the battery pack, installing new electrical components, and fixing other issues.

💡battery pack

The battery pack is a key component of the twike that the narrator rebuilds. It is the assembly of battery cells that provides power. He explains issues with the original pack and designs a new higher capacity pack with proper battery management.

💡BMS

BMS stands for battery management system. It is an electronic system that monitors and controls the battery pack. The narrator adds a new BMS to provide individual cell monitoring and balancing that was missing from the original pack.

💡high voltage

High voltage refers to the electrical system in the twike that operates at a hazardous high voltage, like most electric vehicles. The narrator points out and modifies various high voltage components and notes safety concerns.

💡tiller

The tiller is the steering control on the twike. It is a vertical lever that pivots to turn the front wheels. The narrator has issues with the tiller spontaneously locking up while driving.

💡canopy

The canopy is the upper exterior body of the twike. It detaches for access. The narrator removes it to work on components and fixes issues with paint peeling from the canopy.

💡DC-to-DC converter

A DC-to-DC converter steps down and regulates the high voltage from the battery pack to power lower voltage accessories. The narrator taps into the twike's converter to add a 12V battery.

💡windshield wiper

The narrator notes issues with the windshield wiper scratching the polycarbonate windshield and wanting to discourage its use.

💡brake switch

The brake switches were faulty on the twike. The narrator diagnoses bad connections and replaces the switches to restore brake light functionality.

💡rear window

The narrator removed the rear window for access and fabricated a replacement polycarbonate window with automotive adhesive.

Highlights

The twike battery pack had no battery management system or individual cell monitoring, making it unsafe.

The old twike battery pack experienced overcharging issues that damaged cells.

Built a new 9 kWh battery pack with proper BMS for cell monitoring and balancing.

Had issues getting all BMS satellites to communicate and learned the hard way about bottom vs top balancing cells.

Added a new 2.5 kW thunderstruck charger with dual voltage charging capabilities.

The twike has a convoluted "driveway protection loop" to shift between drive and charge mode.

Replaced the analog loop with a relay triggered by the BMS master control unit.

Had first test drive crash because the steering tiller locked and brakes failed simultaneously.

Learned the steering tiller can lock if pressed down while turning, easily done by leaning body.

Spent way more money and time restoring the twike than expected - estimated 1 month initially.

Spent nearly $4500 on parts and upgrades to restore the electric twike vehicle.

Battery upgrades alone were about $900 for new cells and $3000 for accompanying equipment.

The project took almost 3 months working on and off to complete all updates and fixes.

New custom mahogany and aluminum cargo shelf took 3 weeks to design and build.

After all repairs and changes the twike is ready for final testing and validation.

Transcripts

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I can't break with

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my oh

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oh it's the twike but you already know

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that because you've already seen the

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video where I tell you everything about

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this and how silly it is but that video

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was shot in the future presently it's

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the past and right now the twike is

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inoperable and it needs some work the

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canopy needs some resealing and

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reattaching I popped out the rear window

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to get better access to the going Zone

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back here but it's not in the best shape

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so I need to make a new rear window for

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it but most importantly the battery

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package shot so I need to build a new

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one for it although even if it wasn't

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shot I'd probably still build a new pack

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for it because the way they designed

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this battery pack is not good or safe so

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let's do those things that didn't

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latch let's do something about this

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canopy

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now that was too easy which is why I

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need to fix

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it all of these scuffed areas is around

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the edge and down the center spine is

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where it's supposed to be painted black

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and where it was painted black at one

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point in time but as you can see most of

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that paint has fallen off so I need to

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remove the remaining paint what little

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of it is left mask off the areas that

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are not supposed to have paint and then

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reapply black paint where there should

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be black paint and while that's drying I

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should probably start scraping off the

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adhesive that looks good even if I do

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say so myself it's not glued in yet I'm

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going to give the paint more time to

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cure to give it a better chance of

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holding on and I probably need someone

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to help me lower this down into place

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without smearing the adhesive all over

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the place but the paint job looks

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good there we go there we go got

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it several days later some cosmetic

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issues have popped up at the canopy what

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I think happened is the windshield

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adhesive that I used as it cured

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contracted slightly and there's some

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places where the paint is is pulling

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away from the canopy it is still very

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firmly glued in place it is basically

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irremovable right now so I'm not going

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to do anything about it but you can see

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where the paint is being slightly tugged

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away from the canopy and it really

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bothers me two things that make me feel

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better about this though twike also

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screwed this up that's why I had to

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reglue the canopy because all of the

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paint detached from the canopy and the

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second thing is it looks better than

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when I started so success now onto the

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battery pack but first let me show you

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all the high voltage GB in the TK this

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is the main reason I popped out through

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reir window it makes it much easier to

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access all the crap back here first of

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all yes the wiring is a mess but that is

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the battery tray running the entire

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width of the car leaving very little

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space on either side of it this with all

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the wires going into it is the main high

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voltage and everything else control

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board and this is the DC todc converter

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from the other side you can see the

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front of the tray this is what twight

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calls a BMS that's where all the

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thermister go into and there's some

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logic and some cut off in there that's

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the existing charger that I will be

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bypassing and that's about it really

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this is the entire battery pack out of

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the twike just 3.5 kwatt hours not very

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big originally the twike had a nickel

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cadmium or nickel metal hydride battery

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I'm not really sure and this is the

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factory lithium upgrade option from

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twike each module is a 4p 14s

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configuration of 18650 cells there's

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seven modules in total wired in series

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for a total pack nominal voltage of 36

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62 volts easily the highest voltage to

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capacity Raco I've ever seen luckily the

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reason they went with such a high

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voltage on such a small Vehicles because

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the peak power draw on the twik motor is

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only 9 Kow if it's even that and because

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this is such a high voltage the amperage

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is basically nothing and they could get

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away with these tiny little wires for

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the main high voltage connections so

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what's wrong with it why am I saying

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this battery pack is a bad design and

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unsafe well if you're a battery

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Enthusiast you probably already noticed

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what's missing each one of these modules

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here has two wires coming out of it a

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positive and a negative and nothing else

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there's no battery management system

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there's no individual cell monitoring at

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all if you're not familiar with the job

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of a BMS or battery management system

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it'll have a balance lead going to each

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individual cell in the overall Series so

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it can monitor each cell group's voltage

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individually to prevent overcharging

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over discharging and to keep all of the

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cells balanced to the same voltage

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because the twike doesn't have a BMS it

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has no idea what each IND individual

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cell voltages and it has no way to keep

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the cells in Balance so when it charges

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it just charges to an overall pack

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Target voltage and the charger will just

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keep dumping in current until that

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overall pack Target voltage is met in

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normal operation this is totally fine

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the cells aren't going to drift apart

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very much they'll stay mostly in Balance

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all on their own without any external

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help and when you go to charge them

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they'll all end up roughly at 4.2 volts

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all on their own the problem is those

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pesky edge cases let's say in an extreme

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examp example you got one cell that has

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a significantly lower voltage than the

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rest of the pack the charger doesn't

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know that so it's still going to Target

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the same charging voltage for the sum of

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the pack because that one cell is lower

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than the rest of them to bring up the

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sum voltage for the rest of the pack the

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rest of the cells have to be overcharged

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or for a different scenario you could

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have a couple of cells that are slightly

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higher voltage than the rest of the pack

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again the Chargers just looking at the

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sum total voltage you could have a

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couple of cells that are significantly

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overcharged overcharging damage the

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battery but more importantly it can

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cause a thermal event In fairness the

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cylindrical style cell that to chose to

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build a battery pack out of is less

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prone to outright fire than a pouch

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style cell like this one I pulled out of

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a phone and overcharging is something

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the previous owner of this TKE

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experienced he put his T in storage

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while he moved and unbeknownst to him

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several of the cells in his battery pack

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dropped down to Zer volts I don't know

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why but the heavy corrosion here might

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have something to do with it several

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months later he pulled his twike out of

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storage and again he didn't know that

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several his cells had dropped to zero

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volt so he hooked it up to charge and

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the ignorant onboard charger overcharged

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the vast majority of the cells in his

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battery pack thankfully though nothing

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happened well nothing catastrophic

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anyway I mean his battery pack was toast

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but given this it's probably not in the

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best shape to begin with to give twike

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just a little bit of credit while there

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is no individual cell monitoring there

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is no BMS there are therms to monitor

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battery temperature and one of the

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series Connections in each one of the

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modules is made up by a couple thermal

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fuses so your Twix battery probably

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won't burst into flames but it's still

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not a good design so for the new battery

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pack that I'm going to build for this

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twike I'm going to add a proper BMS that

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can do all of the individual cell level

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monitoring and I'm going to add a new

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charger that communicates with that BMS

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so the BMS can tell the charger to stop

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charging if it detects anything off

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whatsoever it's not just a safety thing

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either having properly balanced cells

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means you have a better battery pack if

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the cells go all out of whack it reduces

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its usable capacity building a new pack

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starts with sourcing new battery cells I

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didn't want to pay a fortune for brand

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new 18 650s or 217s and then build a new

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pack completely from scratch so I went

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to battery hookup.com browse their

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inventory and ended up with this this is

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a battery module from I have no idea

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what battery hookup must have bought

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these wholesale or Surplus or something

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importantly the cells inside are 18650s

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they've never been cycled so they're

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brand new there is a two cell BMS inside

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here but I'm not interested in that nor

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am I interested in the connector and

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this was only $100 per kilowatt hour

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which for brand new cells is awesome I'm

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also not interested in any of this

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plastic casing so let's remove the cells

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first with this plastic strip that

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covers the cell

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Taps and then this should just pop right

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off and there is the small BMS board

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with connector again I'm not interested

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in any of that now I can throw this away

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holding these two halv together are a

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bunch of

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screws cut the label in half cuz that's

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still retaining the two halves together

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and

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then the cells inside this module are in

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a 2s 10p configuration I know it looks

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like there's 12 cells on each side but

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the two middle cells are actually just

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inert pieces of plastic for spacing

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these are labeled 2600 milliamp hour

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which is 2.6 amp hours but I didn't just

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believe that at face value I took one of

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these modules apart previously fully

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charged each Bank of cells up to 4.2

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volts and then capacity tested them down

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to 2.8 Vols and the actual capacity I

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got out of them was 2.65 amp hour so

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these were in perfect shape the pack I

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took out of the to was in a 98s

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configuration I intend to replicate that

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so I bought 49 of these 2s modules the

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first step I'm already working on in the

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other room I'm bottom balancing all of

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the cells which means I'm individually

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discharging each one of these cell Banks

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down to 2.8 volts using the capacity

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testers I just showed you that way when

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I assemble the battery pack all of these

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will start out at the same state of

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charge and the same voltage the first

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step to building this new battery pack

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is is to take these small modules and

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group them together into slightly larger

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modules these cells are all spot welded

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together but on the other side because

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this is how connections work they're

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bifurcated in the middle so to join

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these two halves together I'm just going

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to squirt some high strength hot glue in

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the middle

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here to add a little more strength and

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to support these spot welds I'm going to

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put some glue on the edges too between

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the

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cells and to be clear this bead of hot

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glue that I ran on the perimeter between

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each cell is not necessary it's the belt

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and suspender approach now to pack these

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units together again using hot glue and

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by the way if you think that this is too

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big of a task for hot glue just know

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you're wrong I uh I glued that module in

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backwards okay these modules are

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permanently bonded together the only way

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I could think to remove them I did try a

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knife it didn't work at all is with a

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hot wire cutter which is about a 100

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bucks on Amazon so I weighed that price

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against the price of these modules which

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was

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$1850 per module so I bought three new

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modules I'm going to forget these exist

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and I'm going to be more careful from

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now on hey it's me from the future I

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made that mistake more times but if I

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wasn't an idiot I would have realized I

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didn't have to order brand new modules

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and remake the stack anytime I glued one

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on backwards all I have to do is cut the

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series Connection in the middle of the

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nickel strip and then remake that series

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connection on the other side boom I

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flipped it anyway back to ignorant past

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Robert okay there we go making the

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serious connections between these cell

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groups would normally mean nickel strip

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and a battery spot welder I'm not going

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to do that the design of these modules

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allows me to use a method that doesn't

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require any specialty tooling soldering

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to the end of battery cells is a bad

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idea cuz that's a lot of heat being

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dumped into the cell for a prolonged

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period of time which damages it but in

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each one of these cell groups are two

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plastic cells so I can make all my

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solder connections here on top of these

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plastic cells and not worry about

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damaging any of the battery cells there

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will be some heat transfer over

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obviously but not enough to damage

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anything on the back side of these

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modules the series connections are made

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by these nickel strip Bridges bridging

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between the two halves of the modules

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now I calculated the current carrying

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capacity of these little 0.15 mm nickel

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strip Bridges here all four of them

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combined and it's about 20 amps give or

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take the twike will be pulling more like

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30 amps so I'm going to reinforce these

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with the jumper wire going across to

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give it a little bit of extra current

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carrying ability now to solder on all

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the individual cell balance leads that

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will lead up to the BMS satellite

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that'll sit right about here the nice

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thing about this thunderstar BMS I'm

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using is that these two separate wire

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harnesses despite going into the same

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BMS are completely independent which

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makes wire management so much easier

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each half of the module gets its own

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cell balance lead wiring

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harness all right that's done now I need

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to validate that I put them all in the

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right place with this little harness

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test board here and a voltmeter just

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need to make sure the voltages go up in

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order and I didn't skip or rearrange one

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33 all right they are all

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validated

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now it's time to stack these two halves

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on top of each other and to separate

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them I've just cut this ABS sheet on the

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table saw tacked on this little extra

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bit cuz it was too short and to provide

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some cushion I've lined this with well

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it's just rubber window seal if I'm

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honest I think for the remainder of

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these modules I make instead of

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soldering jumpers on the back I'm going

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to break out the spot welder so these

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can sit more flatly against each other

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but this works fine for now I'm going to

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put an ABS shield on both sides of the

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module as well as wrap the whole thing

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up but first I need to solder on on this

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wire that connects the two halves

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together and the positive and negative

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lead that come out the top of the

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module done now to answer the inevitable

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question why didn't you use heat shrink

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battery

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wrap and on the bottom I put on some of

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this rubber mat for abrasion resistance

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where it's going to be sitting and

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finally I added some THS to the back of

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the module they connect to the harness

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up here that plugs into the BMS

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satellite and it was a pain in the butt

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to put these in because this harness

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that connects to the BMS satellite is

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pre-wired so you got to take the little

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thermister in tip and solder it onto the

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cut wires thankfully this job was made

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easier by my little heat shrink

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connectors with the solder built into

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them once the connections are made I can

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slide it under the heat shrink battery

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wrap and then tape the wires in place

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with capton tape that smells like urine

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that's one module done now I need to

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will four more into existence

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oh that one's all weird I made some

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slight improvements as I went along on

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the first two as you saw I soldered on a

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wire to increase the current carrying

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ability of the nickel strip on the back

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and then took up the remaining Gap with

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this rubber window seal on the remaining

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three I just spot welded on some extra

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nickel strips so these two sections fit

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more closely together and I didn't need

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the rubber window seal between the two

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halves all the modules are in a 20s

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configuration with the exception of this

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one which is 18s because I wanted the

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whole battery pack to be in a 98s s

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configuration just like the battery pack

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I took out of the twike it would have

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been much more pleasing to make all

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these modules the same size and make the

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battery pack 100s and just increase the

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voltage by these two extra cell groups

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but I don't know how the Twix computer

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would play well with that two extra

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cells worth of voltage very likely

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wouldn't do anything at all especially

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since I'm not reusing the twi stock

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charger but I don't know so I played it

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safe and went with the same

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configuration I took out of it the

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capacity of this new pack 9 KW hours

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gross almost triple the capacity of the

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original pack pack BMS time just like

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with my previous lithium converted mower

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project I'll be using components from

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thunder struck Motors not sponsored and

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I paid for it myself I just really like

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their stuff I'll be using five of these

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BMS 24 BMS satellite units one for each

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module to control the BMS and the

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charger I'm using their MCU or master

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control unit and this is the new charger

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I'm going with a TSM 2500 also from

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thunderstuck TSM is just thunder struck

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Motors this is a 2.5 Kow charger plenty

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for this application 3 Days Later here's

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my bench test setup I've got my five BMS

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satellites all wired up and strapped to

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their respective modules got an MCU to

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control everything I've got the charger

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and I have a j1772 port and when I plug

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in the charging

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cable it works I've got it turned down

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to 5 amps for now but it do work this is

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a very basic and easy setup the reason

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it took me so long to get it working is

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because I had a few issues along the way

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when I first wired up these satellites

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the MCU did not see the last unit in the

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daisy chain I even tried switching the

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modules it was consistently the last

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satellite that it wouldn't see so I

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emailed thunder struck about this and it

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turns out four satellite units is the

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limit of one daisy chain so at least one

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of these had to be moved to the second

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bus on the board I chose to wire two of

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them on the bus cuz I don't know it

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looks nicer once I got all the BMS

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satellites to properly communicate I

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encountered another issue first of all

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the cell voltages weren't all quite as

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similar as I expected given I bought and

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balanced all the Cs beforehand but there

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were two CS in particular that were

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dramatically higher than the rest of

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them because somehow I forgot to bottom

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balance beforehand so I had to do that

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while they were in the module which was

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easy enough to do I just used the BMS

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harness tester board as a breakout board

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to individually discharge the two

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offending cells but because these cell

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tap wires and the traces on that board

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are so thin I only discharg them at 1

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amp compared to the three amps that I

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discharged all the rest of the cells in

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this pack at for bottom balancing and

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that's a problem because the lower draw

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you put on the cell the more you'll get

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out of it so when I got everything

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hooked back up together rather than

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those two cells being at 3.4 volts like

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the rest of the pack they were at 3.1 so

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I had to then charge them back up again

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a little bit to match the rest of the

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pack and then I had a whoopsie I

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accidentally touched two of these wires

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together shorted them out and then

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melted one of the traces on the cell

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harness test board right there fixed it

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I tested the absolute limits of my

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soldering ability by soldering ing this

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jumper onto that tiny little surface

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mount pin down there once that was

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sorted then I could charge those two

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cells up to 3.4 volts couple things I

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learned from this experience one I

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didn't need the bottom balance all the

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way down to the low voltage cut off of

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2.8 volts I could have picked a higher

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value I didn't need to drain the cells

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completely and two and this is something

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the Thunder stroke guys told me top

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balancing is more reliable rather than

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discharging all the cells to the same

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value charging them up to the same

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voltage is more reliable as I showed

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with these two cells here if you dis

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charge them at a different rate they end

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up at a different place than all the

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rest of the cells because I bottom

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balance these my voltages are kind of

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all over the place if I type show cells

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my voltage is range from about 3.41 all

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the way to 3.44 which given I balanced

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these beforehand is not all that similar

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the thunderstroke BMS does have passive

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balancing though which I can enable

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using enable balance and now it will

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balance all the cells and I just found

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out another new thing BV Min is the

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minimum voltage value of this cells will

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balance at default was 4 volts so I

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lowered that down to 3.5 volts and now

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you can see all of the high cells that

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it's discharging using passive balancing

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okay after about an hour and a half of

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charging with balancing enables the

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cells are a lot more in line than they

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started out because I'm putting a new

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charger in here you might think that

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I'll remove this old one but no for now

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and possibly permanently it's staying in

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there because I took the cover off and

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look at how many communication wires

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come out of the charger and go to the

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main l board I don't know what most of

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those do the new charger also comes with

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another upgrade that I didn't think

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about originally the twike did not have

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dual voltage charging for the US market

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it was 120 volts or bust but the

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previous owner of this upgraded it to

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dual voltage

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charging here's that upgrade two

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extension cords hardwired to it this one

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is for 120 volt this one is for 240

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volts you have to switch between them

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with a toggle switch all of this is that

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double extension cord mess with the

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toggle switch there and some other stuff

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I will be removing all of this as well

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but again I'm going to wait to make sure

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all of the new stuff works first the

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inputs I need from the twike to the MCU

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are very simple I just need power ground

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and a key switch input the key switch

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input I think I can just tap off of this

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on switch on the dash here but the power

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and ground is actually a little more

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complicated because this has a 12volt

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system but it doesn't have a permanent

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12volt Source it doesn't have a battery

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just has the DC todc converter back

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there and no place to store that energy

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so I have to add a battery to it all

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right I've been putting it off because

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I'm nervous but let's go ahead and put

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the batteries in here right after I

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mount this on jack stands for

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safety off with your diaper or

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Underpants now let's move on to putting

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the batteries in here right after I get

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some hardboard to fill out the floor

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I'll be I'm going to go with town real

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quick this tray doesn't have a flat

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floor this is sunk down below this

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angled lip so I just cut this to give it

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a flat floor okay now we can move on to

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putting the batteries in Okay negative

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most battery module which I have labeled

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one NE now these modules barely fit with

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the BMS strapped on the front here which

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is kind of perfect cuz it'll sandwich

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them in place and I am going to reuse

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these therms because they're there why

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not go ahead and tape them back in

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place the BMS the charger all that stuff

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isn't installed yet but the high voltage

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is connected so let's power on the twike

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for the first time and see what happens

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happens I don't know what's going to

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happen possibly nothing let's first trip

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the breaker high voltage going live

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now nothing happened okay let's undo the

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or open or whatever EOP

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off it's making

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noises this is a thing there's a light

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this is the first time I've ever seen

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the twike with power running through it

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I'm discovering all sorts of things you

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have to hear this blinker sound it's the

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dumbest thing ever

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what is that okay we got to try drive we

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got to try Drive let's put it in

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Drive what will

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happen nothing all right I couldn't

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figure out why the twike wouldn't go

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into drive so I called the previous

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owner who has been extremely helpful in

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this project and found out something you

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know I said this extension cord Mass I'm

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going to leave it be until I make sure

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everything works and then I can slowly

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remove things well that was true it

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except for this this is a little pigtail

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it was only connected to the board with

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the ground wire going to a spade

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connector I removed it because I looked

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at this and thought this is a vestigial

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charge cable I don't need this anymore I

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was wrong this is the driveway

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protection bypass Loop to make it go

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into drive you take the 120 volt

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extension cable which is here and plug

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it into this so that it lets the twike

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know that it's not charging anymore and

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this connects to the board you have to

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plug the twike into itself right now to

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to make it work I'm going to make this

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better but for now let's just go ahead

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and do this so we can see spinny twike

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Wheels it's in

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forward spiny

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wheels off camera I made this bracket

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out of aluminum I didn't film making it

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because I didn't feel like it and that

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bracket goes right here it's held in by

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these screws that go directly into the

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plastic which I don't trust at all so

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I'm using six of them and being careful

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not to overtighten them on top are these

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two Riv nuts and I also put these two

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Riv nuts back here these Riv nuts go

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into again plastic which I don't super

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trust so I put epoxy around them to keep

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the riv nuts from Breaking Free or

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spinning out and on top of them sits the

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new thunder struck

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charger I recognize that I'm bias but I

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think this new install looks better than

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the old one by the way this box here

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that I've been referring to is the

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charger it occurred to at some point

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this might also be the motor inverter

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the charge port should go right about

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here this feels so

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wrong here's the pinning of a j1772 port

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if you were curious and now it all goes

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into here all right let's take the

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protective film off of this mounting

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tape that I added for

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waterproofing all

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right charge port installated wiring is

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done and it's charging now there's the

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new charger there's the MCU there's the

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charge port and the charge port wiring

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going from the port to the charger

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there's a bunch of new wiring going from

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the MCU to the everything else there's a

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new relay I added and there's an alarm

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buzzer and there's the new 12vt battery

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I added now let's back up a second so I

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can show you how I got here I mentioned

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the twike doesn't currently have a

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12volt battery so I need to add one in

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order for the MCU to function properly

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so to add one I 3D printed this thing

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then I screwed these other things to the

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side of the thing I 3D printed and that

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thing is a battery tray and it goes into

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the twi's existing battery tray where

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there's currently a gap and here's that

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new 12volt battery post wiring for the

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key switch input required by the MCU I

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removed this top panel out of the Pod

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here soldered a wire to the back of the

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power switch fish that wire down through

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the back tube the Pod is mounted on

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which ended up being incredibly

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difficult and required the use of a

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boroscope you can see the reason I

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needed the boroscope is cuz the bottom

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of this tube had a circular hole and had

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trouble feeding the wire through that

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but now it's in and put the panel back

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in place to keep the 12 battery I added

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charged up I connected it up to the

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output of the DC to DC through a diode

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so the battery can't back feed into the

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DC to DC and something I just found out

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that DC to DC converter on board is

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always active even with the twike off

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and the EOP button pressed in and

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activated as long as the high voltage

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battery is connected that DC todc

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converter is putting out 12 volts so

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really I don't even think I needed to

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add the 12volt battery I'm glad I did

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it's a more robust solution but I don't

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think it was strictly necessary I

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already shows you the nasty manual

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driveway protection Loop where the Tok

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has to be plugged into itself in order

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to be able to go into drive and when

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it's unplug that puts it into charge

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mode and even with the switch off the

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twike is powered on for charging or

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whatever reason they had I replaced all

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this nastiness with a relay all that was

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happening when I plugged the to into

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itself was I was connecting a spay

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connector on the main board to ground so

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I replaced the manual way of doing that

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with a normally closed relay that is

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triggered by an output on the MCU an

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output that I have programmed to be

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active in other words the relay opens

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when I plug it into charge so when I

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plug this into charge you'll be able to

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hear the relay click and the twike will

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come alive which is what it did when

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charging for whatever

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reason low voltage cut off I didn't add

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one because I kind of can't with the way

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the tce configured if I had a high

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voltage disconnect in there anyway to be

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triggered when there's a low voltage

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situation the toy would have to reboot

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it's a whole thing wouldn't work

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properly but I did add a low voltage

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alarm in the center console between the

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seats I cut a hole stuck an alarm in

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there and now that buzzer is triggered

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by an output on the MCU that was

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programmed to be on if there's a low

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pack condition or a low voltage

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condition on any of the cells something

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else I changed is this key down here on

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the side of this C console this was the

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high voltage cut off trigger that key

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when turned would trip this breaker here

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and disconnect the high voltage

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theoretically anyway the problem was you

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had to have power running through it for

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this remote key trigger to actually trip

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that breaker and even then it wasn't

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100% reliable and then to reactivate to

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untrip the breaker you still had to take

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the high voltage cover off everything to

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reexpose that breaker so I've just

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disconnected the whole stupid key

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assembly put a label above it that says

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this key does nothing and now to

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disconnect or reconnect the high voltage

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you have to access this breaker and hit

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the button on the top the brake lights

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have an issue too they do work but the

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signaling to them is all faulty the

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brake switch is bad for one but that's

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okay because the previous owner gave me

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two spare brake switches another problem

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is the connection to the board there's a

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little plug down here and the pins in

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that little plug are all wallered out so

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I took the plug out took a picture of it

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sent it to a friend who's really good at

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identifying connectors and within 5

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minutes he identified it properly and I

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was able to order a new plug from Digi

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key here's the new pins in the header I

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ordered I crimp the pins on the end of

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the wire with my crimping tool snap the

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pins into the new header and then

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soldered the new stub onto the end of

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the old brake switch cable job done this

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brake switch is also so bad these two

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prongs work but these two don't and

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these are the ones that I need so

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luckily I have a replacement right here

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I put a silicone mat underneath this in

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case it leaks breake FL which I know it

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will now let's test it when I press down

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the brake

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pedal this contact and this contact

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should

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close and they don't the previous owner

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this gave me two brake switches but

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turns out they were used I cut one open

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to see what was wrong with with it the

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seal had leaked and the contacts were

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all corroded so I went and bought a new

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brake switch I looked up the part number

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on the back of this one turns out this

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is a brake switch for a Volkswagen

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Vanagon so I went and found another

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let's install

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it now let's test it brake lights all I

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needed was a new Switch and a new plug

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back there good news I got the twike

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registered right it is not ready I still

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have a bunch of wiring to clean up

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there's no rear window I didn't put the

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mirrors back on or anything but it's

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going to rain the next two days and I

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want to take this thing for a test drive

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before it gets dark my leg's already

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cramping it's a good

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sign oh my

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God I moved 2 Ines

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[Music]

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whoa whoa what A noise

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too oh my God back pedal okay we got to

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try out the

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brakes oh this is terrifying oh my God

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I'm going to drive this on the

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road

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oh my God I'm doing

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[Music]

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it Jesus shift the shifter seems to not

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be doing

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anything all right that was

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25

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Jesus no thank you oh

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regen wow the front end is so already

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holy

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[Laughter]

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crap oh my

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God holy crap why is this front end so

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bad I am never doing highway speeds in

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this absolutely no way it's happening oh

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my

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God I think I kicked it out of gear yeah

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the pedal's not doing anything I can't

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break with my

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oh

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[Music]

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oh yes that's right the first time I

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ever drive the twike on the road I crash

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it I drive it right off the road into a

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ditch up an embankment so what happened

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cuz I reviewed the footage after the

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accident and it looked like I just

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decided to start panicking and have an

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accident what happened was three things

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right in a row the steering in tiller

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locked up you couldn't really tell this

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was happening on camera but you could

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sure see the Panic set in on my face

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when I realized the steering was locked

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up then I tried to push the brakes at

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which point I realized my shoelaces were

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Tangled in the bike chain and I couldn't

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push the brakes down anymore and then in

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a panic I tried to set the E bra but I

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got confused in the panic and instead of

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pushing forward on it I pulled back on

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it which just releases it again so yeah

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I had an accident and immediately

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following the accident I was very

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confused and couldn't even figure out

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how to open the canopy where's the

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button oh wow I just had an

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accident come on nothing was harmed on

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me or the twike thankfully before the

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test drive I didn't reinstall the arrow

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underbody shielding down here if I had

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reinstalled that before that test drive

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that Hill would have ripped it clean off

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okay but how did the tiller

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spontaneously lock while I was driving

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it well as it turns out the twike wasn't

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designed for Fat American butts here's

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how the steering tiller Lock Works you

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twist the key and then you push down

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when you push down that's what engages

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the lock and keeps the tiller from

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moving past this position here's the key

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here's my butt I made a left turn before

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the tiller locked up and this is how

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that turned out I'm turning the key with

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my butt and all I have to do is lean

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over a little bit and I can very easily

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with my butt press down on this and lock

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the tiller in place thankfully the

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tiller didn't lock lock in place I was

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just holding down on that tumbler with

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my butt and as soon as I got got up off

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of it when I hit the ditch the tiller

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was unlocked again but that was

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terrifying from now on I take the key

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out before I ever drive the twike hey

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it's me from the future about that

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Twitchy steering after I released the

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last video both the previous owner of my

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twike and twike the company reached out

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to me to let me know that my steering

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appears to be twitchier than normal

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twike even sent me a whole list of

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things that could possibly be wrong with

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my Twi causing the extra Twitchy

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steering I haven't had time to go

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through this list yet but I thought I'd

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let you know that apparently my steering

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is twitchier than normal in a twike now

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back to the past on to the rear window

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to make a replacement window I bought a

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piece of UV and scratch resistant

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polycarbonate to cut it to shape I used

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the old window as a template and cut out

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the new window with a flush trim bit in

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the router and to glue it in place I

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used regular automotive windshield

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adhesive which was probably

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Overkill broke the tube open on the side

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I guess I'm done putting it in there

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this is my clamping mechanism to hold it

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in place while the polyurethane cures

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and makes my terrible job permanent I

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Then followed that up with a bead of

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black silicone around the edge to add

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prettiness and to fill in this lip that

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would have otherwise collected water you

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probably already noticed in the previous

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video that that glue bead is visible and

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it looks awful if I wasn't an idiot I

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would have seen this coming and I would

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have put a vinyl border around the

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inside of the window to hide the glue

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seam like all car windshields do but I

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am an idiot and I didn't think to do

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that ahead of time it's still totally

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possible to add a border to the inside

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now but with the window in place it's

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much harder to do so so I'm just going

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to leave it for now whatever it can look

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ugly speaking of insightly glue-ups the

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canopy I was not happy with how the

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canopy looked where the paint was

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slightly pulling away from the canopy

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was unsightly and it bothered me so I

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covered it up with vinyl tape black

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vinyl tape over all of the areas where

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there was black paint underneath the

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canopy this was super tedious especially

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right here where I had to make it match

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this curve to make it match this curve I

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laid down masking tape to make my

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template and then I peeled that shape up

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and placed it over vinyl wrap and cut

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out the vinyl wrap to match the masking

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tape template it was a lot of work but

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it looks so much better now I'm very

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happy I did that this is essentially a

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coverup job but it looks much better

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there is one downside though there's

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vinyl tape here where the windshield

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wiper sits so if you use this windshield

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wiper it'll swipe past the edges of this

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vinyl tape strip and slowly peel it up

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and I'm totally okay with that because

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if you use this windshield wiper on this

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polycarbonate it'll scratch the absolute

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crap out of it so I'm okay with use of

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the windshield wiper being decentivize I

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removed all the old charge cabling this

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was satisfying to get rid of I cleaned

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up all the new wiring I added and

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crucially to signify the danger all the

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high voltage connections I've wrapped in

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Orange tape for configuration I set the

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charger to charge up to 4.1 volts per

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cell which is about 90% capacity for

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longevity low voltage cut off is 3.3

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volts and while the charger is capable

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of 2.5 Kow of output I have it turned

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down to 1.4 Kow on both 120 and 240 all

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of this is very easily changeable should

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I decide to change it later the

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electrical stuff is mostly done but

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before I call it fully done I need to

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fully charge it fully discharge it run

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it through some charge discharge cycles

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and just test it to make sure

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everything's okay I'm not worried about

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the system that I added I'm worried

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about how the system I added plays with

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the stock Twi computer there could be

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some complications that I'm not aware of

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just yet but that's going to wait

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because real winter is set in and it's

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very cold and salty outside and finally

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this is the shelf that came with the

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twike sat in the back it covered all the

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high voltage bits you could put your

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Cargo in here Etc two problems with this

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shelf one the new battery pack that I

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built is taller than the old one by

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quite a substantial margin which meant

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this is now too low and actually rubs on

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the high voltage cables on the top of

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the battery pack which not ideal the

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second problem with it is this is almost

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impossible to get in and out of the back

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of the to my understanding is this was

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for for safety so you couldn't

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willy-nilly take the Shelf out and have

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access to all the high voltage

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components but I wanted to improve this

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so I made my own shelf for the back of

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the twike out of mahogany and aluminum

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and I didn't record any of it because I

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thought it was just going to be a quick

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side quest I don't know why I thought

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that I spent 3 weeks on it the new shelf

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is in three technically four pieces to

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make it easier to install in place

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here's the back piece that screws onto

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this back

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plate you can see the four little L

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brackets coming off the bottom with Riv

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nuts in them that's where the back of

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the Shelf sits and bolts into then

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there's the front piece which sits just

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behind this support bar I also added

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this laser cut piece of acrylic that's

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held in place by magnets this is the

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access to the high voltage disconnect

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switch behind it and finally the Shelf

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which is hinged in the middle you can

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see the underside of it these are the

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brackets that bolt through here and it's

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tinged in the middle so I can actually

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get it in and out of there unlike the

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old shelf which was just an impossible

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puzzle

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like I said I massively overdid that

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shelf but I like it so there and that's

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it it's done now like I said I still

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have to do some high voltage validation

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testing and possibly some changes based

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on that testing but by and large it's

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done now I spent so much more time and

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money than I thought I was going to on

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this stupid thing I estimated in my head

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that it would take about a month to do

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everything I spent almost that much time

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on just the Shelf in the back again that

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wasn't solid work that was off and on

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work but still and as far as money goes

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well on the battery cells that wasn't

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bad at all I spent about $900 for 9

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kilowatt hours that's pretty good but

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then there was the BMS the MCU the

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charger the charge port all of that

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stuff added up to about

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$3,000 and then there was all the extra

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wiring stuff that I had to get on top of

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that plus all the other stuff that I did

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on the to this new rear window all the

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work I did on the canopy the brake

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switches some other stuff I'm probably

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forgetting I think I think I spent about

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$4,500 restoring essentially this twike

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which not worth it no I mean will I get

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that much from the videos that I make on

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it also probably not

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so this an ill advised project but I'm

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really happy with the end result I don't

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often get time to sink as much time as I

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want to into a project I did get that

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opportunity with the twike and I kind of

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wish I hadn't but anyway it's ready to

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film the video that you've already seen

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now so I'm going to go do that bye

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