Negotiate Contracts and Budgets In Clinical Trials

Dan Sfera
11 Feb 201309:16

Summary

TLDRIn this video, the host of clinical trials guru.com introduces a new DVD on clinical research, perfect for training new coordinators. They address a question about contract and budget negotiation in clinical trials, emphasizing the importance of scrutinizing every budget line item and negotiating increases. The host shares insights on common industry practices, discusses the Sunshine Act's impact on negotiations, and highlights key contract clauses to watch for, such as indemnification and payment terms. The video promises further in-depth content on these topics.

Takeaways

  • πŸ“š The speaker introduces a new product, an 'Introduction to Clinical Research' DVD, available for purchase on their blog.
  • πŸ” The DVD is designed for research clinics and is affordable compared to other training programs.
  • πŸ™‹β€β™‚οΈ The speaker addresses a question from a viewer about negotiating contracts and budgets in clinical trials.
  • πŸ’Ό The speaker has 11 years of experience in coordinating clinical trials and is now involved in contract negotiations.
  • πŸ“ˆ The speaker plans to release a series of videos on contract and budget negotiations, including interviews with industry experts.
  • πŸ’‘ The speaker emphasizes that sponsors expect negotiation on the initial budget proposal and encourages scrutinizing every line item.
  • πŸ“Š They discuss the possibility of negotiating increases on various budget items, such as study coordinator time and physician time.
  • 🚫 The speaker mentions that some items, like participant payments, cannot be increased due to ethical considerations.
  • πŸ“ The speaker suggests using public records from universities to model an overhead policy for negotiating purposes.
  • πŸ“– Key points for contracts include indemnification clauses, payment terms, and provisions for study termination.
  • πŸ”— The speaker mentions the Sunshine Act as a potential leverage point for sponsors during negotiations and advises being prepared to address it.

Q & A

  • What is the purpose of the 'Introduction to Clinical Research' DVD?

    -The 'Introduction to Clinical Research' DVD is designed to provide training for research coordinators and new employees in the field of clinical trials, covering core concepts and offering insights into various aspects of clinical research coordination.

  • Why is the speaker excited about the product launch of the DVD?

    -The speaker is excited because the DVD offers valuable training at a good price point compared to other costly training programs, and it is being well-received with several purchases on the first day of its availability.

  • What is the role of the person who asked the question in the script?

    -The person who asked the question has been coordinating clinical trials for about 11 years and has recently been given the responsibility of negotiating contracts and budgets.

  • Why did the person purchase the DVD?

    -The person purchased the DVD for their research coordinators to review and for training purposes for any new employees that may join their team.

  • What is the most important thing to understand when negotiating budgets according to the speaker?

    -The most important thing to understand is that sponsors expect you to negotiate for an increase; they provide an initial budget with the expectation that it will be negotiated upwards.

  • What is the general advice given for negotiating line items in a budget?

    -The advice is to negotiate every single line item, and if there are no line items for specific procedures, to increase the entire visit budget. It's also suggested to aim for at least a 50% increase from the original offer.

  • What is the Sunshine Act, and how does it relate to negotiating with sponsors?

    -The Sunshine Act is a regulation that is not intended for research sites but affects them indirectly. It is a leverage point for sponsors to negotiate costs down, and research sites should be familiar with it to be prepared for such negotiations.

  • Why is it important to have documentation for overhead costs when negotiating?

    -Documentation for overhead costs is important because sponsors may request proof of what is included in the overhead percentage requested by the research site. It helps validate the requested overhead rate.

  • What are some key points to consider when negotiating contracts?

    -Key points include ensuring an indemnification clause to protect the Principal Investigator, specifying payment terms, and securing advance notice in case the sponsor decides to terminate the study.

  • How can one prepare for negotiating overhead costs?

    -One can prepare by researching other research clinics or universities in the area to understand their overhead policies and use these as a model to create their own policy.

  • What is the speaker's suggestion for those interested in becoming a producer for the clinical trials guru.com?

    -The speaker suggests emailing them at theclinicaltrialsguru.com for a lifetime membership opportunity at $99, but notes that spots are limited and encourages interested parties to act quickly.

Outlines

00:00

πŸ“š Launch of 'Introduction to Clinical Research' DVD

The speaker begins by welcoming the audience back to the 'Clinical Trials Guru' website and introduces a new product, an 'Introduction to Clinical Research' DVD. The DVD is designed for training purposes and is available for purchase on the first day. The speaker highlights a question from a customer who is new to negotiating contracts and budgets in clinical trials. The speaker promises to cover this topic in depth in future videos and on the DVD's bonus content, which includes interviews with industry experts like Anna Marquez. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of negotiating every line item in a budget, explaining that sponsors expect it and provides tips on how to approach negotiations, including the possibility of significant increases in reimbursement.

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πŸ’Ό Navigating Contract Negotiations and Budgets in Clinical Trials

In this paragraph, the speaker delves into the specifics of contract and budget negotiations for clinical trials. They mention the Sunshine Act as a potential leverage point for sponsors to negotiate costs down, advising the audience to be familiar with it. The speaker also discusses the importance of having documentation for overhead costs, suggesting looking at public records from universities as a model. Key points for contracts are highlighted, such as indemnification clauses to protect the principal investigator and specifying payment terms to avoid ambiguity. The speaker also touches on the sponsor's right to terminate studies and the importance of getting advance notice. The paragraph concludes with a call to action for the audience to check out the DVD and become a producer for the 'Clinical Trials Guru', offering a lifetime membership at a set price.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Clinical Trials

Clinical trials are research studies that involve human participants to determine the safety and effectiveness of medical interventions. In the video, the speaker discusses the process of negotiating contracts and budgets for clinical trials, which is crucial for ensuring that the trials are conducted ethically and efficiently.

πŸ’‘Negotiating

Negotiating in the context of the video refers to the process of discussing and coming to an agreement, particularly regarding the terms of contracts and budgets for clinical trials. The speaker emphasizes the importance of negotiating every line item in a budget to ensure profitability and feasibility.

πŸ’‘Contracts

Contracts are legally binding agreements that outline the terms and conditions of a particular arrangement, such as the conduct of a clinical trial. The speaker mentions the importance of having an indemnification clause in contracts to protect the principal investigator and specifies payment terms.

πŸ’‘Budgets

Budgets in the video refer to the financial plans for clinical trials, detailing the costs associated with various aspects of the trial. The speaker advises on how to negotiate these budgets, including increasing line items and ensuring that the study remains profitable after negotiations.

πŸ’‘Sponsor

A sponsor in clinical trials is typically the organization funding the research. The script mentions that sponsors expect sites to negotiate the budgets they provide, indicating a common practice in the industry.

πŸ’‘Research Coordinators

Research coordinators are professionals who manage the day-to-day activities of a clinical trial. The video is mentioned as a resource for these coordinators to review and for training new employees, highlighting the educational aspect of the content.

πŸ’‘Indemnification Clause

An indemnification clause in a contract is a provision that protects a party (such as a principal investigator) from liability or loss. The speaker advises ensuring that contracts include such clauses to safeguard against potential legal issues arising from the trial.

πŸ’‘Overhead

Overhead refers to the indirect costs of running a business or research site, such as rent and utilities. The speaker discusses the negotiation of overhead costs in clinical trial budgets and suggests looking at public records of universities for comparison.

πŸ’‘Sunshine Act

The Sunshine Act is a U.S. federal law that requires certain financial relationships to be disclosed. The speaker mentions it as a potential leverage point for sponsors to negotiate costs down, indicating its relevance in the context of clinical trial negotiations.

πŸ’‘Profit

Profit in the video refers to the financial gain or positive outcome that a clinical trial site aims to achieve after conducting a study. The speaker stresses the importance of negotiating budgets to ensure a profitable study, aligning with the business aspect of running a research site.

πŸ’‘DVD

The DVD mentioned in the video is an educational product created by the speaker to introduce clinical research concepts. It is used as a training tool for research coordinators and new employees, and the speaker discusses its relevance to the topic of contracts and budgets.

Highlights

Introduction of a new product: an 'Introduction to Clinical Research' DVD by the speaker.

The DVD is designed for research coordinators and new employees for training purposes.

The speaker has 11 years of experience in coordinating clinical trials and is now involved in contract and budget negotiations.

The speaker emphasizes the importance of negotiating every line item in a clinical trial budget.

Sponsors expect an increase request in the budget and often provide an initial budget that accounts for negotiation.

The speaker has negotiated up to 100% increases on certain budget items in the past.

Some budget items, like participant payments, cannot be increased due to IRB regulations.

The speaker suggests using university overhead policies as a model for creating one's own policy.

Indemnification clauses in contracts are crucial to protect the Principal Investigator.

Payment terms should be clearly specified in contracts to avoid confusion.

Sponsors have the right to terminate studies, and contracts should reflect advance notice periods.

The Sunshine Act may be brought up during negotiations as a leverage point by sponsors.

Documentation for overhead costs is important and can be based on public records from universities.

The speaker plans to release more videos on the topic of contracts and budgets.

The DVD is available for purchase and is suitable for anyone new to clinical trials.

Call to action for potential producers to join the Clinical Trial Guru community.

The DVD launch date is February 11th, 2013.

Transcripts

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hey everybody I want to welcome you back

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to theclinical trials guru.com again

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that website address for you is the

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clinical trials guru.com and I love

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getting questions and today's question I

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actually got it's going to be a little

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bit of a Shameless plug but I'm excited

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to roll this product out it's my

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introduction to clinical research DVD

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and today's question I got from someone

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who ordered the already ordered the DVD

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and I'll keep this person's name

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completely Anonymous uh not sure if they

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would like their name all over the

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internet but I appreciate you making the

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purchase and emailing me I see that

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several people purchased the DVD today

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and the first day it's available uh so

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Shameless plug go to my blog and check

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out introduction to clinical research

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DVD so anyways this person asks a good

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question I've been coordinating clinical

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trials for about 11 years and just

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recently was given the job of negoti sh

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in contracts and budgets I wanted to see

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if you could give me any information

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about this topic uh I have looked online

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and I'm not finding a whole lot of info

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there uh and then this person says I

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also purchased this DVD for the purposes

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of my research coordinators reviewing

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this and any new employee that may come

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along for training purposes so thank you

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before I get into your question about

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negotiating contracts and budgets um let

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me just tell you that

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this DVD is perfect for research clinics

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I mean I don't care if you just buy one

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and share it that's fine um this is what

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I made this DVD for because there's

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other training programs out there sure

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but they're very costly and mine is I

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feel it's at a good price point so

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anyways check it out is today's the

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first day that it's available uh okay so

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about contracts and budgets so there's

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several things believe it or not I'm

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going to do a bunch of videos on this

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and on the bonus on the bonus DVDs

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included in the um in the DVD that

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you'll get you'll see some interviews

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some fantastic interviews with the Anna

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Marquez and we talk about negotiating

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contracts and budgets for like an hour

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uh but just to keep this one very short

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when you negotiate contracts and budgets

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we're going to really break it down into

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the budgets first and then the contracts

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later and and for the contracts I'm

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lucky have an attorney as a business

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partner so I let him handle the

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contracts as far as the language and the

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the wordage but I'll talk about some key

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points towards the end of this video but

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let's focus first on the budget so when

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you get the

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budgets the most important thing you

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want to understand is that the sponsor

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expects you to ask for an increase okay

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they don't just I mean they give you

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that I'm sure some research sites just

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accept it the way it is but they give it

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to you with the price somewhat marked

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down because they figure you're going to

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be negotiating at least from my nine

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years in this industry that's what I've

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I've even heard this from monitors

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before not that they would probably tell

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you anymore but this is um I mean it's

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common knowledge so when you get that

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budget you want to really look and see

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if you're able to do that at those costs

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and you you definitely want to negotiate

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every line item now sometimes you'll get

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the budgets with the Excel sheets where

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where they'll list every single

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procedure and how much they'll reimburse

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you and other times you'll just get how

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much they'll pay you for each visit so

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in either case I mean in the Excel sheet

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you have more detail so you can pinpoint

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exactly what you're going to increase in

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price and some things you can't increase

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such as how much you'll pay the study

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participants um because the IRB can see

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that as um coercion but the rest of the

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stuff I mean study coordinator time

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physician time uh study startup those

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things you can negotiate and I've

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negotiated 100% increases on these

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things in the past I've even heard some

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people do two and 300% increases but for

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the most part if you can get 50%

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increase to what they sent you

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originally uh you're doing good you're

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doing pretty good just make sure that

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even after you negotiate that that it's

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still a lucrative study for you and that

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you can really not just break even but

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actually make a profit because that's

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what we're in business to do is actually

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make a profit out of this that's what

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the purpose of business is so make sure

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you negotiate every single line item and

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if they don't have line items for the

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procedures you can either ask for one or

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just increase the entire visit budget

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and be prepared prepared to hear several

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things in reply be prepared to hear

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about the sunshine act that's um I've

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actually interviewed Daran karney on the

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show before he's a producer of the show

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a friend of the show we talk extensively

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about this I will link to it um but it's

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basically uh it's not really intended

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for research sites but it's a loophole

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where we fall into it and it is another

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leverage point for the sponsors to try

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to negotiate our cost down so be

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prepared to hear that be familiar with

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it and be ready to negotiate and you may

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also hear that uh they want some kind of

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proof some kind of documentation

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regarding your overhead your overhead um

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for your site so if you get like a 10%

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overhead you might want to ask for 30%

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and there's nothing wrong with that but

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be prepared to show some kind of

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documentation so what I would do is look

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at other research clinics in your area

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or better yet because they're public

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records universities in your area and

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see what their overhead is and what

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their overhead policy is these are all

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public documents for the most part so

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look up some of those just do some

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Google searches for universities in your

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area and as far as their overhead policy

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for their research Department

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specifically clinical research

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department and then look at that and

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kind of make one of your own as well you

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can use that as a model I wouldn't just

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totally um plagiarize it but use it as a

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model and then build your own off of

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there because you you are running a

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business and you have overhead I mean

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that's you definitely should have a

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policy in place now when it comes to the

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contracts there's certain things that

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you want to make sure in there the first

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one is an indemnification clause which

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makes sure that your Pi is held harmless

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if he or she follows the protocol should

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someone in the study get injured or

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harmed another thing is the payment days

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make sure that it's specified in the

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contract exactly when payments will be

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expected at your site if it's 30 days

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make sure that you they specify 30 days

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after what is it 30 days after we enter

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the data or is it 30 days after the

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monitor reviews the data that we entered

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because that can actually be 60 or 90

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days so you want to make sure it's very

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specific in there and also the sponsor

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does have a right to terminate the study

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at any time make sure you get at least

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one or two

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months um advance notice before they can

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terminate a study from you you may not

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always get that but it's always good to

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ask for and it's always good to know at

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least one or two months ahead of time if

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the sponsor is planning on canceling the

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study or terminating the study so hope

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hopefully these things help I'm going to

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do more videos on this so I'll put the

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links to some of some interviews that

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I've done in the past and that's hours

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of content right there and I really hope

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you enjoy the DVD let me know um how it

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is and I talk a little bit about

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contracts and budgets in there too but

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it's at a very basic level uh for

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coordinators or people who are brand new

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to research to just learn the Core

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Concepts of this I want to end by giving

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sale today February 11th

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2013 it's perfect for anyone who's just

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learning clinical trials hope this helps

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Dan from the clinical trials guru.com

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