The BEST Motorcycle Communications Setup

Summary

El guion de este video explora las ventajas de los comunicadores Bluetooth para motociclistas, destacando su capacidad para conectar con teléfonos, escuchar GPS y música, y comunicarse con otros conductores. Sin embargo, señala las limitaciones en la calidad y compatibilidad entre marcas. Alternativamente, presenta las radios como una solución más efectiva y de mayor alcance, independientemente de la marca, y ofrece una revisión detallada de diferentes opciones y accesorios, incluyendo la facilidad de uso y la duración de la batería, para satisfacer las necesidades de comunicación de los motociclistas.

Takeaways

• 😀 Los comunicadores Bluetooth para motocicletas son un accesorio popular que permite a los motociclistas comunicarse con su teléfono, escuchar GPS, música y más.
• 🔊 La comunicación entre motociclistas con estos dispositivos funciona a un nivel básico y no ha mejorado significativamente en más de una década.
• 🤝 Los dos principales marcas, Sena y Cardo, a menudo tienen problemas para comunicarse entre sí, incluso cuando deberían ser compatibles.
• 📡 Los sistemas mesh son interesantes pero requieren que todos los miembros del grupo tengan el sistema mesh para que funcione correctamente.
• 💬 Los comunicadores Bluetooth a menudo experimentan problemas de calidad y conectividad, especialmente cuando hay diferencias en las actualizaciones de firmware.
• 🏞️ La radio, una tecnología más antigua que Bluetooth, ofrece una gama de transmisión mucho mayor y es menos sensible al entorno que las ondas Bluetooth.
• 🔧 El radio por Oxbow es resistente al clima y tiene Bluetooth integrado, lo que lo hace útil para motociclistas que ya tienen comunicadores Bluetooth.
• 🔄 La ventaja del radio es que no requiere parear dispositivos, simplemente se selecciona el mismo canal en todos los radios para comunicarse.
• 📡 Los radios GMRS ofrecen una mayor potencia y rango, pero requieren una licencia de 35 dólares que es válida por 10 años.
• 🛠 Hay varias opciones de montaje y adaptadores disponibles para integrar radios con motocicletas y sistemas de comunicaciones Bluetooth existentes.
• 💡 Los radios son una solución sencilla y eficaz para la comunicación a larga distancia entre motociclistas, sin las complicaciones de Bluetooth.

Q & A

¿Qué accesorio ha sido considerado una de las cosas más geniales para los motociclistas en las últimas 15 a 20 años?

Los comunicadores Bluetooth para motocicletas, que permiten comunicarse con el teléfono, tomar llamadas, escuchar el GPS, música y podcasts.

¿Cuál es una de las principales limitaciones de los comunicadores Bluetooth para motociclistas en cuanto a la comunicación entre ellos?

La comunicación entre motociclistas con diferentes marcas o modelos de comunicadores Bluetooth a menudo tiene una mala calidad y no siempre funciona bien incluso dentro de la misma marca.

¿Qué es el sistema mesh y cómo afecta la comunicación entre motociclistas?

El sistema mesh permite a todos los motociclistas comunicarse entre sí, pero si uno no tiene este sistema, se limita la comunicación y se requiere que todos tengan la versión más cara de los comunicadores Bluetooth.

¿Por qué los radios son una alternativa mejorada a los comunicadores Bluetooth para la comunicación a larga distancia entre motociclistas?

Los radios tienen un rango mucho mayor en comparación con Bluetooth y son menos propensos a interrupciones por障碍物 como colinas o edificios, además de ser más económicos y fáciles de usar sin necesidad de parear dispositivos.

¿Qué modelo de radio se presenta en el script y qué características lo hacen útil para los motociclistas?

Se presenta el radio Oxbow, que tiene Bluetooth integrado para comunicarse directamente con los comunicadores en las cascos y está resistente al clima, lo que lo hace adecuado para motociclistas.

¿Cómo se puede montar el radio Oxbow en las montantas de una motocicleta?

El radio Oxbow viene con un clip de estilo GoPro en la parte trasera, que se puede sujetar a una correa de mochila o a una pelota de soporte RAM si se desea montarlo en las montantas.

¿Qué ventajas ofrece el radio FRS en comparación con los comunicadores Bluetooth y cómo se relaciona con la licencia GMRS?

El radio FRS no requiere licencia y es más fácil de usar, pero tiene un rango limitado. En cambio, la licencia GMRS, que tiene un costo de 35 dólares y es válida por 10 años, permite un rango más amplio y características avanzadas.

¿Qué es APRS y cómo se relaciona con el uso de radios en motociclismo?

APRS, o Packet Radio, es una característica avanzada de algunos radios GMRS que permite transmitir coordenadas GPS y recibir información de tráfico en tiempo real, lo que puede ser útil para motociclistas en viajes de grupo.

¿Cómo se puede mejorar la experiencia de comunicación con radios en motociclismo para aquellos que ya tienen comunicadores Bluetooth?

Se pueden utilizar adaptadores Bluetooth que se conectan a los radios FRS o GMRS y permiten la conexión con los comunicadores Bluetooth existentes, así como botones de conversación inalámbricos para una mayor comodidad.

¿Qué alternativas se presentan en el script para aquellos que buscan una solución de radio económica para motociclismo?

Se sugieren radios FRS básicos, adaptadores Bluetooth para radios Kenwood y opciones de montaje 3D impreso para radios GMRS, todo con el objetivo de ofrecer una solución económica y sencilla de implementar.

¿Qué se debe tener en cuenta al elegir entre un radio FRS y un radio GMRS para motociclistas?

Los radios FRS son más simples y no requieren licencia, pero tienen un rango y potencia limitada. Los radios GMRS ofrecen un rango más amplio y características avanzadas, pero requieren una licencia y un costo adicional.

Outlines

00:00

📡 Comunicadores Bluetooth y Limitaciones

El primer párrafo discute las ventajas y limitaciones de los comunicadores Bluetooth para motociclistas. Estos dispositivos permiten a los usuarios realizar llamadas telefónicas, escuchar GPS, música y podcasts, pero tienen problemas para comunicar con otros motociclistas, especialmente entre marcas diferentes como Cena y Cardo. A pesar de ser supuestamente compatibles, la calidad suele ser baja y se ven afectada por la falta de actualizaciones de firmware. Además, se menciona la limitación de la tecnología de malla (mesh) y la alta costo de los comunicadores avanzados que permiten comunicación entre marcas.

05:05

🔊 La Solución de las Radios por Oxbow

El segundo párrafo presenta una alternativa a los comunicadores Bluetooth: las radios por Oxbow. Estas radios cuentan con Bluetooth integrado para conectarse directamente con los cascos de los motociclistas y son resistentes al clima, ideales para snowmobiles y resistentes a vibraciones. La ventaja principal es que no requieren emparejamiento complicado y funcionan en la misma frecuencia que los demás usuarios, facilitando la comunicación en grupo. Se discuten las opciones de montaje y la facilidad de configuración, así como una demostración práctica de cómo conectar la radio con un comunicador Sena.

10:06

🛣️ Pruebas de Rango y Comparación con Bluetooth

El tercer párrafo narra una serie de pruebas de rango para las radios Oxbow, comparándolas con las limitaciones del Bluetooth. Se describe cómo la radio de Oxbow mantiene la conexión a distancias significativamente mayores que las de Bluetooth, incluso tras superar obstáculos como edificios y arboles. Además, se menciona la ventaja de no requerir parear dispositivos y la sencillez de usar la misma frecuencia para todos los usuarios, lo cual contrasta con la experiencia de los comunicadores Bluetooth.

15:06

📻 Opciones de Radios y Diferencias entre FRS y GMRS

El cuarto párrafo explora diferentes opciones de radios, desde modelos económicos FRS hasta radios GMRS que requieren una licencia pero ofrecen mayores beneficios, como antenas mejoradas y potencia de transmisión. Se discute la diferencia entre FRS y GMRS, con énfasis en la facilidad de uso de los primeros y la mayor funcionalidad y rango de los segundos. También se mencionan las opciones de montaje y la necesidad de mantener varias cosas cargadas cuando se utiliza un sistema de radio con Bluetooth.

20:07

🔧 Configuración y Personalización de Radios para Motocicletas

El último párrafo se enfoca en la configuración y personalización de radios para uso en motocicletas. Se sugieren diferentes radios y accesorios, como botones de activación Bluetooth y montaje 3D impreso. Se discute la necesidad de una licencia para radios GMRS y se comparte información sobre la duración de la licencia y los beneficios de la inversión en una radio con características avanzadas como la integración de GPS y la transmisión de coordenadas. Finalmente, se invita a los espectadores a unirse a una comunidad en Discord para obtener recursos y soporte adicional.

Keywords

💡Comunicadores Bluetooth para motocicletas

Los comunicadores Bluetooth son accesorios que permiten a los motociclistas realizar llamadas telefónicas, escuchar GPS, música y otros medios de comunicación. En el video, se menciona que son una de las novedades más interesantes en el ámbito de los motociclistas, pero también se señala que su capacidad para comunicar con otros usuarios no siempre es óptima.

💡Cena y Cardo

Cena y Cardo son mencionadas como las dos marcas principales de comunicadores Bluetooth para motocicletas. Aunque se supone que los dispositivos de ambas marcas deberían ser compatibles, el script señala que esta compatibilidad no siempre funciona bien y puede tener质量问题, incluso cuando los dispositivos tienen la misma marca y están al mismo nivel de actualización de firmware.

💡Malla (Mesh)

La malla se refiere a un sistema de comunicación que permite a todos los usuarios conectarse entre sí sin necesidad de parear dispositivos individualmente. En el video, se discute cómo este sistema es genial en teoría, pero en la práctica puede requerir que todos los usuarios tengan la misma tecnología y a menudo no se conecta tan bien como se espera.

💡Rango de Bluetooth

El rango de Bluetooth se refiere a la distancia a la que un dispositivo Bluetooth puede comunicarse con otros dispositivos. En el script, se señala que el rango de Bluetooth es limitado y puede verse fácilmente interrumpido por obstáculos como colinas, lo que sugiere que hay una necesidad de una tecnología de comunicación con mayor alcance.

💡Transmisor de radio

Un transmisor de radio es un dispositivo más antiguo que permite la comunicación a largas distancias sin importar la marca del dispositivo. En el video, se sugiere que los transmisores de radio son una solución más confiable y de mayor alcance en comparación con los comunicadores Bluetooth, y son más económicos.

💡Oxbow

Oxbow es una marca de radio que se menciona en el script. Esta radio tiene características particulares que la hacen útil para los motociclistas, como la integración de Bluetooth y la resistencia al clima, lo que la hace adecuada para situaciones de vibración y exposición al exterior, similares a las que se encuentran en la conducción de motocicletas.

💡Vox

Vox es una función que se menciona en el script, que permite que un dispositivo comience a transmitir automáticamente cuando el usuario comienza a hablar. Esto puede ser útil para evitar interrupciones innecesarias en la música o la navegación mientras se conduce una motocicleta.

💡GMRS

GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service) es un tipo de servicio de radio que ofrece un rango más amplio y potencias de transmisión más altas que el FRS (Family Radio Service). En el video, se discute cómo GMRS requiere una licencia, pero ofrece beneficios como antenas mejoradas y mayor alcance.

💡FRS

FRS (Family Radio Service) es un tipo de servicio de radio que no requiere una licencia y es más simple de usar, pero tiene un rango y potencia de transmisión limitados en comparación con GMRS. En el script, se menciona que los radios FRS son una opción más económica y accesible para la comunicación entre motociclistas.

💡Montaje RAM

RAM es una marca de montajes que se utiliza para fijar dispositivos a las motocicletas u otros objetos. En el video, se discute cómo los montajes RAM son una opción popular para los motociclistas que desean una forma fiable y ajustable de fijar radios o comunicadores a sus motocicletas.

💡APRS

APRS (Automatic Packet Reporting System) es una característica avanzada de algunos radios GMRS que permite transmitir coordenadas GPS y recibir información de tráfico en tiempo real. En el script, se menciona que algunos radios GMRS con características completas incluyen APRS, lo que agrega una capa adicional de funcionalidad para los usuarios avanzados.

Highlights

Motorcycle Bluetooth communicators have been a significant accessory for motorcyclists for the last 15-20 years.

These communicators allow interaction with phones, GPS, music, and other media, but have communication limitations with other riders.

Brands like Sena and Cardo claim interoperability, but the reality is often poor quality and connectivity issues.

Firmware updates and compatibility between different brands and models can affect the communication quality.

The introduction of mesh systems in communicators has been a step forward but still requires all riders to have the system for effective communication.

High-end communicators costing over $400 offer mesh and non-mesh options but still face connectivity issues.

The range of Bluetooth communicators is limited and can be easily disrupted by environmental factors.

An alternative to Bluetooth is the use of radios, which offer much greater range and simplicity.

Radios are brand-agnostic and provide immediate communication without the need for pairing.

The Oxbow radio is highlighted for its built-in Bluetooth and weather resistance, making it suitable for motorcyclists.

The Oxbow radio can connect directly to a helmet communicator and is easy to set up for group communication.

A demonstration of the Oxbow radio's ease of use and its ability to reconnect to a music source after a conversation is shown.

The radio's Vox setting allows it to activate during conversation without interrupting the music.

A range test of the Oxbow radio shows effective communication up to three-quarters of a mile under optimal conditions.

The video also compares FRS and GMRS radios, highlighting the need for a license and additional features of GMRS.

Different setups for motorcycle communication are presented, including budget options and those requiring a GMRS license.

A simple and affordable setup using an FRS radio and a wired headset is suggested for those new to motorcycle communication.

For those with existing Bluetooth communicators, adapters are available to connect radios for an enhanced communication setup.

GMRS Pro radios offer features like APRS and Bluetooth connectivity, but require a license and have a learning curve.

The video concludes by emphasizing the reliability and practicality of radio communication over Bluetooth for motorcyclists.

Transcripts

can you hear me now

motorcycle Bluetooth communicators one

of the coolest things to come out for

motorcyclists is an accessory in the

last I don't know 15 20 years these

things let you communicate with your

phone take phone calls listen to your

GPS listen to a podcast music whatever

you want it does that very very well the

other thing that these allow you to do

is to communicate with other riders that

works okay at best and if you're waiting

for a breakthrough forget it because

they've worked about the same level for

over a decade at least if not about 15

years that I'm aware of the problem is

is there's two main Brands Cena and

cardo they're supposed to be able to

talk to each other but that's never

really worked well and even when it does

it's very low quality even if you have

the same Brands you and your buddies if

someone's as older is behind on a

firmware update they may not work you

now have mesh non-mesh the mesh system

is really cool but everybody basically

has to have it and if one guy doesn't

have it you have to hope that the other

people have the mesh systems have the

most high top dollar Bluetooth

Communicator that can do both and

there's only a few in the lineups that

can do that and they are 400 plus

communicators and even when everybody

has the exact same Munich they just

don't connect sometimes and then even

when they do connect well you're at the

range of Bluetooth uh the mesh is a

little further than it used to be but

things like hills and other tiny things

just seem to break it very easily you're

also stuck talking to everybody pretty

much non-stop you know the right way to

hit the right combination of buttons you

can kind of get music to play and talk

to people I've never gotten to work for

more than about 10 minutes what would be

really great if we had another way of

communicating with each other something

that worked over long range of distances

it didn't matter what brand you had it's

one of these things it's been around

forever it's a radio these things don't

care what brand you have the range is

incredibly far compared to Bluetooth

they're a lot cheaper depending and they

just work hey what channel are you on

okay

done no sitting around playing around

hitting buttons no sinking nothing all

you have to do now is shove this into

here that's silly for our other

Solutions been watching my videos for

the last uh over a year now you've

probably seen me rocking a radio of some

kind on my handlebars this has been

something that we've been testing out

for a while now I've been trying to come

up with a setup that we would recommend

for you and that's what this is so this

is a radio by Oxbow this does two

particular things that make it very

useful for a motorcyclist it has

built-in Bluetooth so this communicates

directly with the communicator on your

helmets it's weather resistance made for

snowmobilers which is actually great

vibrations no Snow's hitting things it's

more than fine for a motorcycle it

doesn't care about pairing with the

group you just put it on the same

frequency all your buddies are on done

Chris asked me that one time he said how

much time you think we've wasted

standing around trying to pair these

Bluetooths and I said Lots I have no I

up all of it probably entire ride's

worth of time that we've set there and

tried to pair these stupid things you

got everybody in but mats isn't paired

for some reason you're like I'm sorry

Matt we just can't we have to go it's

been 30 minutes so we're going to show

how exactly you set one of these up take

it for a test ride and then we're going

to show you some other options at

different price ranges and convenience

levels so let's check this thing out a

little closer first of all Oxbow did

give me this radio no agreement to say

anything nice about yes you get the

radio look at this being an unboxing

Channel we never do this you get a

little clip here which this goes onto

the back of the radio it has a kind of a

GoPro style Mount and this could be

clipped to backpack strap pretty easy I

think that's kind of their intention

with something like that that's a GoPro

style mount in the back which also is

apparently a belt clip comes with some

instructions a lanyard charging cable

actually gives you one of these look you

never get one of those anymore much

better than the iPhone gives you if you

want to mount it to your handlebars you

can go with a ram out option if that's

what you're into I love RAM mount stuff

I've run it all over the bike it's one

of my favorite ways of mounting things

ah this is why I'm not an unboxing

Channel and this is a GoPro style clip

on the back you'll need something like

this a little RAM mount ball that goes

through a GoPro believe it or not this

is actually really hard to find like you

think oh RAM mount to GoPro yeah yeah

but not in this way we'll link it in the

description if that goes in the back

there

and it Clips in this is something I

found on those GoPro mounts it has a

little bit of rattle this one does I

just simply put a couple small strips of

electrical tape right down the center

there usually two strips and it'll

it'll fix it what I have this pair too

my Sena here this is a an ST1 I have

this paired as a second phone you fire

this guy on there's a Bluetooth button

over here on the volume button just hold

it for a second and it'll get a little

flashing light for the first Bluetooth

then you're gonna power this guy on

throw it in Lone pairing mode with this

paired as a second phone I can have my

actual phone still they're both paired

to this right now I can play music

listen to GPS take a phone call and have

this running at the same time What

simply happens is when you press the

button it takes about a second for it to

flip off of this one and then flip over

to this guy then you can just start

talking when you first get this you're

gonna need to take a few minutes trying

to pair these two together and make sure

you have a good system for that you may

find that first time you connect it it

might be a little bit of a pain you

might have to have this on before this

on or something like that we do find

sometimes with Bluetooth that's not a

fault of the radio it's kind of how the

communicator works and just in general

Bluetooth technology right now

personally I found by connecting this as

a second phone it doesn't seem to matter

what order I turn any of this stuff on

it does eventually All Connect back up I

do want to demonstrate guys real quick

though if you are playing something like

music and it gets interrupted it will

jump back it takes a little bit of time

but it will jump back

radio

foreign

[Applause]

I've got music playing well we've been

interrupting it because it's just a

quick calm check but literally all I've

done is I just fired this thing on and

you hold the Bluetooth button down for

like two seconds and it just connects on

its own so rivet's got a really cool

thing going on his helmet where you're

going to actually be able to hear my

audio how it comes in he's actually

split the things off and he's running

one back into the camera I got to get it

set up like that it's super cool oh

there goes my music my music just came

back

does that give it gas it dies

El that bike needs a good riding that's

what that is

I just want to point out here real quick

that rivet is on a cardo and I'm on a

sinner it doesn't matter we could all be

on whatever we want I think I'm going to

point out here too is it me and rivet

like as I'm talking right now he can't

hear me in fact my music just came back

on this radio has a Vox setting which

means it'll just come on when you start

talking if you'd like to run that if

that's something that you're interested

in by the way you can get a Bluetooth

button we'll show you that in a minute

if you want to put it like up here on

the handlebars right now I'm going to

touch this one to talk to him I haven't

actually push this button down interrupt

People's music interrupt your own music

it has a level priority to the

conversation again you can turn box on

if you don't want that I have found

though normally with settings like that

the general road noise might set it off

he doesn't know I'm talking right now

that's also a thing too if you're a

vlogger like I am it's always awkward

when you're in the group because you're

trying to talk to the camera I guess he

is interrupting me occasionally but I'll

take that over uh just having open

columns all the time hey rivet how's

life running for you now buddy is it

running good

uh it still seems just a little bit

rough I I'm not sure if it's uh just a

bad gas when you uh when you were

getting on the throttle there earlier it

was smoking get on the throttle hard let

me see

yeah a little bit of smoke coming out of

it it don't smell like oil it smells

like bad gas I think you need to get

some new gas in that thing

but yeah we spent like zero time we just

got on the bikes we were both oh I'm on

channel six you're on channel six which

is a frequency if you're on a gmsr radio

we'll talk about that later I've got my

jams playing I can I'll do it I can do

what I want and then when we want to

talk we talk it's not exciting

but it works

so you see to the cop you look like

you're just some Commuter so I got some

Dual Sport come here but me again

most hard wheels they're gonna come and

arrest me now

yeah especially in this town oh rivet do

you need a fuel stop oh yeah

do you think I should get a car wash

my Radiology is

[Applause]

dude when this thing still had ABS on it

you were trying to do it like that the

UPS had a it was very unhappy with me

we're gonna do a range test here I've

reset I've reset my miles here can you

hear me yes okay it works at zero zero

all right

wish me luck

that's 0.5 miles can you hear me now

yes I can but it's starting to break up

yeah I mean that it's not I can still

understand you it's just like it's

almost like I can hear the vibration of

the bike

now okay this is one mile can you hear

me rivet

yep I can hear you loud and clear 1.2

miles can you hear me rabbit

[Music]

[Applause]

yeppers 1.3 I haven't heard back from

him we'll pull over up here I'll ask him

rivet can you hear me can you hear me

[Music]

I can hear you now yes a rivet can you

hear me

[Music]

can you hear me

oh

I I just heard that I held the radio up

high in the air and I could hear you I

feel like you can't hear me anymore

[Music]

I'll start heading back

this is close to the one mile marker

again all right rivet I'm close to one

mile can you hear me rivet

[Music]

wow I am super surprised I can still

hear you like I I thought I would have

lost you let me try with the other radio

then this is the other radio

[Music]

oh you're on the radio now okay

yeah I think the oxbow's antenna is

what's limiting that that's one of the

reasons to go with the gmrs ones is

because you can get much better antennas

for them

um that aren't limited like the Oxbow

one because it's FRS

the stop sign is basically a mile from

here uh I could still hear you pretty

good there once I start getting past

there it was real well because I think

there's a dip in the road there and so

you end up breaking line of sight I'd

say with the Oxbow effectively could be

for sure I'll say about three quarters

of a mile a mile pushing it but three

quarters of a mile a mile if you have a

really clear shot most likely will work

do we want a cluttered distance test I

mean I could get behind those trees

right there I don't think that's gonna

do anything I mean there let's just see

let's just see I mean we're here

all right there's some trees between us

Mr rivet some treats can you still hear

me

yes yeah fully loud and clear all right

well hang on I'll add some more okay I'm

Gonna Keep On We're Gonna keep this

going well get ready because there's now

a building between us what do you think

of that between us

that's I mean it's still perfectly fine

I can still hear you

now there's a building

[Applause]

yep loud and clear no problem there's

absolutely no way that a ascenta or

Ricardo is gonna do that do you see me

down here are you in the like parking

lot or something

absolutely no way you can see that

wheelie in the GoPro

oh we're shot you a little there okay I

literally looped around that whole

building over there and it was a little

like you're a little boring but I could

hear you I could make you out so uh I

have no idea how many miles that is it

doesn't even really matter I just put a

building between us and uh it did well

for sure no Bluetooth is gonna do that

that was pretty good absolutely no way

the Bluetooth would do it obnoxiously

I'm not telling you on top of your

Bluetooth Communicator go out and buy a

hundred dollar radio and some other

stuff and so what we want to do here

show you a few setups and rivet's gonna

also tell us the difference between FRS

and ggmrs should we talk about that

first yes the oxbows are FRS which means

you don't need a license whereas the FCC

wants you to buy a license for gmrs now

it's 35 you don't have to learn anything

you just pay them and they give you a

license and they give you a call sign

the gmrs gives you a lot more options

like removable antennas on certain

channels you can do up to 50w Lots but

more range yes much more right much more

well the license how long is that good

for 10 years 10 years okay so 10 years

and that's the thing is like and I know

probably Illinois some of y'all that are

really in the radios and I think he's

told me get your stupid license and I'm

always like I don't wanna I don't want

to do it that's why to me something like

the Oxbow is really like appealing

because it's just like oh there it is

just works we want to show you some

options here uh for different price

ranges the absolute cheap let's say

you're like I want to get into this Jake

and you don't have a Bluetooth

communicator and you're not interested

in that you just want the ability go to

your big box store you go to Costco you

go to Walmart you just get an FRS radio

and then you go on to eBay and you buy

yourself a wired headset that'll go into

your helmet these are like 30 bucks 30

bucks and 40 bucks the benefits of this

are real simple it's cheap this is the

cheapest way to get into it when you're

going to be wired directly to it I don't

necessarily recommend you have this

connected to your handlebars you don't

want to tether yourself to the body yeah

a lot of them are screwed together there

is a brand out there we found it is a

motorcycle one with same the only

difference is those pop together but

they charge like 200 and something

dollars for this which is yeah insane

it's four times the cost doesn't even

come with the radio like honestly if you

really wanted to just have this

connected and just don't screw it

together I would just uh you know I'm

saying that that actually holds really

well I would almost just put a piece of

duct tape over it this is not going to

have any sort of waterproof ability so

if it starts to rain you're going to

want to have pulled over and stick this

in a Ziploc

um you could always just tuck a Ziploc

kind of over this well there are some

that depending on the headset connector

yeah this is where we're gonna get to

the weeds of this there are so many ways

you can cut this and we can't test all

of them I would love to go project farm

and like spend a year testing like 30

different setups but there's so many

subs and everything we're going to show

you here can there's ways you can flip

and move and do this and that but I know

I've ran a simple radio like this with a

simple connector into the helmet why

paramotoring which is way louder than

motorcycling it does work with actual

Bluetooth headsets for motorcycles they

do a really good job of filtering down

the noise a bit and cutting out the

background noise you're not going to get

that but people will still be able to

hear you they have to crank it it's not

going to sound the best yeah but this

just simply works and it gets it gets

you into it as cheap as you possibly can

can now we want to give you an option or

say if you have Bluetooth on your helmet

already and the big thing with the

Bluetooth on your helmet already that we

from what we can tell just needs to be

able to connect to two channels I've

definitely seen Bluetooth on the market

that claim that they only connect to

your phone right and I'm not I can't

definitely say that those will connect

at least saying phone and like one other

Rider like a passenger or a phone in GPS

like you said yeah it's gonna need at

least have two channels uh we found that

most of the main brand ones like I think

cinnamon cardo have like 100 options and

those will be able to do that but if you

already have one you can get the simple

20 30 radio so these are eBay BlueTooth

adapters plug into Kenwood headset Jacks

and so that will work on this particular

Kenwood FRS radio there are other

adapters that you can find on eBay for

other like you've gotta you gotta figure

that part out for yourself you can set

this on around the handlebars and make

it real convenient to press if you don't

like actually reaching up and pushing

it's that button that's definitely my

favorite because I'm still a new Rider I

don't want to take my hands off like

even in like honestly I need to set a

button up on fine to you because it is

it is like I can reach over and do it

when things are right yeah yeah there's

times when we've been off-roading where

it's a little yeah you know but I want

to be holding on but you are Bluetooth

now yes you can walk away from your bike

you can do get on it this will pair you

pair it like product again a second

phone or something like that as a

downside will say you're gonna have to

keep uh three things charged now correct

yeah not gonna work in the range put it

on your handlebars and you put a bag

over it and then you you put a zip tie

or whatever and this can still be done

uh with an FRS or or if you want to get

a little more power a gmrs correct yeah

so this is their options within here and

you can find gmrs radios in places like

Walmart or Cabela's or whatever this is

the next step up also we had to

basically build our own mounts for it

which you three printed which is one of

these things I think there are some

people that sell those but honestly you

can find this on uh what foot thing

verse or those other sites and if you've

got a buddy with a 3D printer you can

make one of these you modified this one

a bit for us I will put the file for

these on in the Discord okay yeah

Discord one of the big things is this is

USB rechargeable it's just type c so is

the Oxbow and so is the other one that

we're going to talk about next you just

need to hook it up to USB and you're

done this one isn't waterproof just like

the baofeng neither of them are

waterproof when you're on one of these

radios these simple FRS radios are just

going to have channels like 1 through 20

right whatever those do relate to a

frequency correct you just have to like

I don't know them off top my head I have

to yeah I always have to look them up

yeah which is something that if we go on

a trip and you're on one of these and

I'm on one of these we're probably gonna

have to get a cheat card before we go so

that's a perfect segue for the this next

Radio

gmrs Pro and it has an app will actually

show you what frequency the radio is so

that's right there one yeah you can

actively change which channel the radio

yeah it'll change that on your phone

also uh I'm gonna dox myself here but

it'll show where you are yeah I won't

docks in but it has Jeep it shows so can

you record what it's doing in GPS or you

can what is what is the purpose so this

having GPS yo so this will transmit its

coordinates over gmrs to another radio

of this type I will say that's one of

the things about the app for this if

it's running your GPS is on and it will

overheat your phone and eat all your

battery all right you close it it's

funny we jumped into this we forgot to

explain one of the big things this is

Bluetooth and waterproof out the box

yeah so that's the other big thing with

this radio I'm going to call this the

nerdy option if you want to get really

into the nitty-gritty of gmrs and you

want a full-featured radio it's got aprs

It's got Bluetooth this button they also

offer a wireless but in the phone app

when you're looking at the settings look

at the connection management so it'll

hook up to my phone and it'll hook up to

the wireless push to talk button and

it'll hook up to the pack talk so that

you can control all of that through your

your phone through the radio so that

there's none of this doing around about

like oh am I can connecting to the the

Oxbow is it how how do you set it into

this to the scanning this is a really

cool thing right like it's so much

better like you're not just looking at a

blinking light hoping the other blinking

light sinks up too that's a really good

setup so we have to get a license for

that but yeah that's a really cool

option something too I think is worth

mentioning is you would also probably

need one of these 3D printed mounts yes

you do and I I have a new file that fits

this one it's my favorite so far the the

one problem we've had I think this is

quieter than this so I have to talk

louder when using this radio than I do

with the Oxbow interesting okay and that

was just something I noticed on the

bench and then and we experienced well

right yeah I guess with that let's talk

about the Oxbow oh yeah you gave it this

road you're gonna say whatever I've just

told you there's an option that's

cheaper that literally does more so I

mean you know don't beat me up here this

is what they sent me and yeah this is

well this is yeah this one we're using

and it's a hundred and what eighty

dollars right yeah now they have a

Bluetooth button that's going to come

out that hasn't come out yet but we

found out this button will you he's made

it work for I got it to kind of work for

mine yeah we'll have to play with it

some more I'm gonna I'm gonna try it

right now you try right now because I

was I was using it while we were down

there

Oxbow says they're gonna come out with

their own button the B Tech one works so

you don't have to wait yeah yeah it's uh

interesting too because this doesn't

even have a rechargeable it just has a

watch battery yeah it just has a watch

battery apparently I know for like a

stupid like it's just on all the time

yeah but it's gonna last for I think

months it turns on whenever you hit the

button well anyway the Oxbow because

this is a GoPro setup you could

literally just take one of those

stickies if you just found a place on

your bike you won't mind putting one of

those sticky GoPro guys you could always

clip this in if you want to do a RAM

mount setup like me and rivet did uh

what were those little balls twelve

dollars ten ten dollars okay yeah so ten

bucks for a mounting option is not bad

again this will seemingly pair to a

cardio pair to a center I'm sure it'll

pair to just about any of them out there

and it just works very simply yeah it's

a little more I guess it's technically

the most expensive radio up here we've

shown this is the most expensive but

it's also the least hassle it is yeah

it's been very very simple

um it the the key is it you buy it and

it works yeah and you got the

rechargeable down here at least I'd say

why you're charging it you want clear

weather there's a little bit of back and

forth between that radio and this one

but for the most most part as you're

going up in price they all work what

we've explained but you're going up in

its convenience and features this is

dead simple there's like two or three

menu settings this is like the thing

right there's so many radios out there

there's so many Bluetooth there's so

many ways to cut this conversation right

here that you know we're just trying to

show you some things that we've we've

used in the field or we know work and I

think it's funny that like we've now

gone to this radio technology which is

much older than Bluetooth and much

better in that way yeah well that's the

thing because uh Bluetooth I looked up

the FCC specs for these yeah and they

transmit at 0.2 Watts yeah just end at

2.4 gigahertz right and then you step

down to FRS and these oxbows are two

Watts at 460 megahertz that's a much

bigger wave it'll go through a lot more

stuff like the building and then if you

go to one of these uh another step up

right and you can you can do higher

Powers even still um or more importantly

bigger antennas because the the look

Chris has got something on his setup

where he's got a Nintendo off the off

the off the back it's gonna be even

better than any of this stuff we really

wanted to get fire guy out here too

because he's he is so nerdy about this

stuff now he's gotten so into it in the

last year or two uh he's gonna be mad

when he sees this yeah yeah let's all

get some so let's all get some radios

boys come on you can sword fight him

when you get bored

um

it's not exciting it's not exciting I

swear it's not it's not but it works

that's that's the key is it works yeah

yeah if it was too exciting there would

be something that would be a catch so

you're gonna have those prints in the in

the Discord yep so enjoy the Discord the

STL for those yeah um you might be able

to convince me to to make one for you

and I'll ship it you got to join the

patreon join the Discord it's one dollar

a month if nothing else jump in there

and steal the stupid prints and then

give it all your buddies yeah but I

don't want you to do that but I I'm not

gonna tell you not to because I will

definitely come after you if you start

selling them oh yeah I'll do that I

think that covers it all right yep see

you next time

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