Zeiss Milvus Distagon 18mm f/2.8 Final Review + IQ

Dustin Abbott
3 Oct 201617:09

Summary

TLDRDustin Abbott reviews the Zeiss Milvus 18mm f/2.8 lens, praising its beautiful design and construction but finding its optics to be good but not exceptional compared to less expensive options. He compares it directly to the Tamron 15-30mm and Rokinon 12mm lenses, showing similar sharpness and performance despite higher cost. He concludes it produces great images but the extra cost may not yield better optical quality over other lenses.

Takeaways

  • 😀 The Zeiss Milvus 18mm f/2.8 is a beautifully built and high-quality wide angle lens, with great weather sealing and handling.
  • 👍🏻 It has a common 77mm filter thread, allowing the use of more accessible and affordable filters like ND filters for long exposures.
  • 🌠 It performs very well for night sky and astro photography, with good control over coma and star stretching in the corners.
  • 🔎 Optically, it does not clearly outperform cheaper lenses like the Tamron 15-30mm or Rokinon 12mm in sharpness and resolution.
  • 😕 There is noticeable vignetting when shooting video, which could be an issue.
  • 💡 It transmits more light than the Tamron, needing over a stop less exposure for equivalent brightness.
  • 🌈 Chromatic aberrations are extremely well controlled.
  • 👍 It has very low distortion, keeping lines straight even shooting up staircases.
  • 🔬 Center sharpness seems on par with cheaper lenses, but edge sharpness falls behind slightly.
  • 💰 The high cost may not bring a meaningful jump in optical quality over cheaper lenses.

Q & A

  • What lens is being reviewed in the video?

    -The Zeiss Milvus 18mm f/2.8 lens is being reviewed.

  • How does the image quality of the Zeiss lens compare to other cheaper lenses?

    -The Zeiss lens produces great images but does not necessarily outperform cheaper options like the Tamron or Rokinon lenses in terms of sharpness, especially in the corners.

  • What is the law of diminishing returns in regards to lenses?

    -As lenses have gotten much better in recent years across all price ranges, spending more money does not necessarily get you a more highly performing lens over cheaper alternatives.

  • What is a benefit of the 77mm filter thread on the Zeiss 18mm lens?

    -The 77mm filter thread allows the use of more accessible and affordable filters like neutral density filters to enable long exposure photography.

  • How does the Zeiss lens perform for astrophotography?

    -It has well controlled coma and renders star points sharply, performing as well as or better than the 15mm Distagon and Tamron.

  • What is a disadvantage of the Zeiss 18mm lens?

    -It has fairly heavy vignetting, which could be problematic for video work.

  • How does the Zeiss lens handle chromatic aberrations?

    -It handles chromatic aberrations extremely well and has basically no visible color fringing.

  • How does the manual focus experience compare to other Zeiss lenses?

    -The focus ring is perfectly damped and glides beautifully, similar to other Zeiss manual focus lenses.

  • What type of photographer would this lens work well for?

    -Landscape, architecture, and astrophotographers would appreciate the high image quality, weather sealing, and manual focus experience.

  • What is an alternative lens recommendation for a cheaper option?

    -The Tamron 15-30mm f/2.8 is sharp across the frame when stopped down and costs significantly less while allowing zoom flexibility.

Outlines

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📸 Zeiss Milvus 18mm F2.8レンズの最終レビュー

このパラグラフでは、ダスティン・アボットがZeiss Milvus 18mm F2.8レンズの最終レビューを行います。このレンズは、Zeiss Milvusシリーズの中で15mmおよび21mmのDistagon設計レンズと同様の設計を持ち、価格と焦点距離の面でこれらの間に位置します。米国市場での価格は2,199ドルと高価ですが、その優れた構造、美しいデザイン、気密性能、そして操作性の良さが強調されています。また、フォーカスリングの動きが滑らかであり、ハイパーフォーカス距離の使用が推奨されています。このレンズは、10インチまでの近接撮影が可能で、良好な再現率を持っています。さらに、77mmの一般的なフロントフィルタースレッドを持っており、フィルターがより手軽に使用できる点もメリットです。画質に関しては、色収差がほとんど見られず、フレアやゴーストの抵抗性が高く、歪みが少ないことが特徴です。ただし、ビネットが強いことが欠点として挙げられています。アストロフォトグラフィーにも適しており、星の点が鮮明に描写され、コマ収差がよく制御されています。

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🔍 比較テスト:Zeiss Milvus 18mmと他のレンズ

ダスティンは、Canon 5D Mark IVを使用し、Zeiss Milvus 18mm F2.8、Tamron 15-30mm、およびRokinon 12mm F2(APS-C用のため、実質的な焦点距離は類似)のレンズを三脚上で比較します。彼はまず、コマ性能を比較し、その後、画像の解像度、色収差、およびビネットを評価します。Zeissレンズは色収差において他のレンズよりも優れているが、解像度とビネットに関しては、特にコーナー部分でTamronやRokinonに劣っている場合があることを発見しました。さらに、光の伝達率が高いため、同じ露出設定で撮影した場合、Zeissレンズの方が画像が明るくなることが観察されました。

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🔬 画質の詳細な比較と結論

このセクションでは、ダスティンはZeiss Milvus 18mmとTamronレンズの画質を更に詳細に比較し、F2.8とF5.6の絞りでのテストを行います。彼は、中央部の解像度が両レンズでほぼ同等であるものの、画像の端の部分でTamronレンズがより優れていることを見出しました。また、Zeissレンズは、同じ露出設定でより多くの光を捉えるため、Tamronレンズよりも1.5ストップ程度明るい画像を生成することが判明しました。ダスティンは、長時間露光を用いた撮影例をいくつか紹介し、77mmフロントフィルタースレッドの利点を示しました。しかし、最終的には、Zeiss Milvus 18mmが他の比較したレンズよりも顕著に優れているわけではなく、価格の差を正当化するほどの性能差は見られないと結論付けています。

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🧐 レンズ選択における考察と総評

最後のパラグラフでは、ダスティンは、最近のレンズの品質が全般的に向上しているため、高価なレンズと安価なレンズの間の性能差が縮小していると指摘しています。この「次元の減少法則」により、Zeiss Milvus 18mmのような高価なレンズが、解像度の面で安価なレンズに明確な優位性を持たない場合があることを示しています。ダスティンは、このレンズが素晴らしい画質を提供するものの、他の類似のレンズと比較して特別に優れているわけではないと結論づけ、購入を検討する際にはその点を考慮する必要があると述べています。

Mindmap

Keywords

💡lens

The main topic of the video is reviewing a specific camera lens - the Zeiss Milvus 18mm f/2.8 lens. The video examines the build quality, specifications, performance and image quality of this lens in detail.

💡image quality

A key aspect analyzed in the lens review is its image quality - including resolution, sharpness, contrast, flare resistance, chromatic aberration, distortion etc. Comparisons are made to other lenses like the Tamron 15-30mm.

💡astrophotography

The Zeiss Milvus lens's utility for astrophotography is discussed - examining performance parameters like coma and ability to render sharp and well-controlled star points across the frame.

💡distagon design

The Zeiss Milvus 18mm is said to use a Distagon optical design, known for excellent sharpness and performance across the frame. This design type is compared to lenses like the Zeiss 15mm Distagon.

💡weather sealing

The video highlights the excellent weather sealing of the Zeiss Milvus 18mm lens, making it suitable for outdoor and adventure use. This sealing protects the lens in challenging environments.

💡optical quality

While the Zeiss Milvus produces great images, the video concludes it does not necessarily exceed cheaper lenses optically. Parameters like resolution and sharpness are on par with cheaper Tamron and Rokinon lenses.

💡diminishing returns

With lens technology advancing rapidly, the benefit of expensive lenses over cheaper lenses is reducing in terms of pure optical quality. The video labels this as the "law of diminishing returns".

💡filter thread

The Zeiss Milvus 18mm accepts common 77mm screw-in filters. This allows the use of cheaper ND filters to achieve long exposure photography.

💡manual focus

As a manual focus lens, learning techniques like hyperfocal distance focusing is recommended to get sharp images with the Zeiss 18mm especially for landscape work.

💡vignette

A weakness highlighted about the Zeiss 18mm is significant vignette or darkening of corners, especially when shooting video. This could be bothersome for videography uses.

Highlights

レンズは美しく設計され、非常に高品質だが、他の似たレンズと比べて必ずしもシャープではない

コマ収差と歪みは良好に制御されている

フレアとゴーストがほとんどない

77mmのフロントフィルタースレッドは便利

長時間露光撮影に適している

中心部のシャープネスは同等だが、端部のシャープネスはTamronのほうが良い

明るさはZeissのほうが上回っている

高価なレンズが必ずしも高性能というわけではない

素晴らしいレンズだが、他の安価なレンズと比べて際立った点はない

高価なレンズを買う必要性が薄れつつある

最近のレンズ開発で格差がなくなりつつある

大きな技術革新がない限り当前は変わらない

ファイルリンク: 写真サンプル、イメージギャラリー

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Transcripts

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hi i'm dustin abbott and i'm here today

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to do my final review my final verdict

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on the zeiss milvis 18 millimeter f 2.8

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this is a distagon design like the two

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other lenses now in the milvis lineup

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for wide angle and that is the 15

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millimeter distagon and then the 21

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millimeter distagon and it slots right

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between them in terms of price and of

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course in terms of focal length it's not

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an inexpensive lens in the u.s market it

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has an msrp of

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2199

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which makes it pretty pricey if you

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haven't already i'd encourage you to

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take a look at this episode here where i

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broke down the overall build the design

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the specifications and cover those

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things in detail in that i will just sum

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that up to say that this is obviously a

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beautifully built lens it's in fact one

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of the most beautiful lenses that i've

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ever seen it has great weather sealing

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and it handles beautifully in the field

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if you like using quality things you're

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going to enjoy using the milvis 18

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millimeter it's just a beautifully

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crafted lens period beyond that in the

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field it has a very nice moving uh focus

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ring you know it's in that sense it's

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very zeiss and very nil this it's

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perfectly damped and it glides along

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beautifully you'll find that

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learning to use hyper focus distance is

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going to help you a lot if you're not

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accustomed to

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focusing because i do find that with a

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wider angle trying to achieve visual

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focus even with a body setup like mine

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with an egs focus screen it takes a

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little bit more practice and so if you

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learn to use the hyper focusing

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markers it makes it easy you just keep

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everything in focus until those certain

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situations where you want to get really

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close to something for example this lens

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will focus down to a close 10 inches and

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has a decent reproduction value to it

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beyond that however we're going to break

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down the overall

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image quality and performance in the

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field

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um one thing that i really liked using

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about it is the fact that it has a very

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common 77 millimeter front filter thread

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that's certainly smaller than its its

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two brothers siblings in the milvis

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lineup and it means the filters are more

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accessible i used a haida pro

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nd 1000 filter that i paid i think no

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more than 70 dollars for and i was able

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to get gorgeous long exposure images

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i'll throw a couple of them up here for

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you to see and and so that certainly is

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much more convenient than the tamron 15

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to 30 that i'm using right now that has

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a curved front element and thus you

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can't use traditional filters so my

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filter system is big and it's bulky and

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it's expensive and so that's certainly a

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plus and something to consider if you're

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looking at a lens like this beyond that

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it checks a lot of the right boxes it

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has basically no chromatic aberrations

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that i've been able to see in the field

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it handles that very very well

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it's very flare resistant and and holds

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contrast very well and has just the

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barest minimum of ghosting and actually

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i would say does better than the

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exceptional distagon 15 millimeter in

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that regard and certainly better than

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what my tamron does because that bulbous

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front element does tend to catch the

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light a little bit um with the tamron

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and so it's great in in that regard the

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distortion is very low which is

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certainly a plus for this i find that it

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doesn't really need much correction and

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uh you know one thing that's important

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to me that if you're going to use it

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like for shooting groups or shooting in

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a bridal situation i noticed that when i

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shot in a staircase that

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there wasn't a lot of distortion there

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the line stayed nice and straight and so

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um that's it's good in that regard as

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well the one area that it doesn't excel

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is when it comes to vignette and that

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also makes it somewhat similar to the 15

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millimeter distagon it vignettes fairly

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heavily and while that's not necessarily

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a big deal in most situations if you're

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shooting stills it can be more of a deal

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if you are

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shooting video with the lens and of

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course zeiss lenses are often very

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desirable for video shooters and so

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that's something to watch out for

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another plus is it is a great

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astrophotography lens it does a great

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job at night and star points are

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rendered nice and sharp and if you look

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along the edges coma is well controlled

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there's no ufos or flying ducks there

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but rather star points stay pretty

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natural maybe just a little bit of

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stretching in the corner but it's a

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great performance and actually it holds

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up very well when compared to the dista

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distagon 15 millimeter or the tamron

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that i'm shooting with that i think is

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really good in that regard so it's a

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great performer there we're going to

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take a few minutes and break down the

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image quality and in particular compare

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how the resolution compares to

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options like the tamron that i've been

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alluding to i'll put that at 18

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millimeters also f 2.8 and then similar

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apertures we'll mount it on a tripod

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with the 5d mark iv body and see how

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they compare

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side by side and just for the fun of it

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i'm going to throw in a much less

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expensive lens the rokinon 12 millimeter

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f2 which is for mirrorless so i'll shoot

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it on an eos m3 body but because it's on

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aps-c

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with the crop factor it's pretty similar

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to the focal length of the uh millvis 18

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millimeter

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so let's jump in and let's take a look

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at how they compare

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okay first we'll uh just take a quick

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look at some coma performance i've got

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an image i shot a

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almost two years ago on the distagon 15

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millimeters over here at the corner and

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then one i shot more recently with the

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milvis 18 millimeter and so as you can

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see and obviously they're two different

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kinds of images in some ways but we're

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mostly looking for this kind of thing

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and so you can see just a little hint of

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you know kind of the odd shape and the

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extreme corner here um on the

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milvis uh 18 millimeter but at the same

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time the overall stars are are nice and

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crisp and the image is smooth and so

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there's not a lot of stretching here in

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the corners and you know it's about the

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same as the dyston 15 millimeter as far

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as the actual coma shape in some

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situations and the distagon 15

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millimeter is

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known to be one of the best um

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lenses for shooting astro and so i mean

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that's a strong performer there i also

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want to give you a quick comparison to

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the tamron 15 millimeter and i'll use a

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um well we'll use the same kind of image

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here for a second and then maybe a

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second one also

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and so uh here both of these are same

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kind of thing this is 20 millimeters f

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2.8 and so if we look towards the center

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of the frame

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we see a pretty similar looking result

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and if we look out towards the corners

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we see also a pretty similar looking

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result this is the tamron and so you can

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see

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you know

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some of the the little bits of coma

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taking shape there same kind of thing

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here it's really a pretty similar

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result which is great for the milvis

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because i've done a shootout with the

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tamron and it was the lens that i

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thought was one of the best for

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shooting the night sky and so this is

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actually a very good performance from

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this and then just to compare another

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more recent image from the

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milvis that i just took here and so

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we'll just again look at the stars you

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know again a similar performance

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okay so here as promised we're going to

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compare side by side the zeiss which is

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on the right and the rokinon which is on

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the left and so we start out here on the

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edge we're going to see the only

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advantage really that the zeiss has is

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there's you know quite obviously some

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color fringing here both purple and

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green fringing that just isn't there

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chromatic aberrations are pretty much

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perfect on the zeiss lens and uh but as

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we look here and go on into the image we

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can tell that despite the fact that this

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ice is working with a superior sensor

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the 5d mark iv

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there's just you know overall more

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sharpness and contrast or certainly no

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more

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sharpness and contrast for the zeiss

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than there is for the rokinon and

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you know if we just look here there's

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just a nice amount of contrast and

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detail here and i just think more so

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maybe than what's showing up there on

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the zeiss and if we look down towards

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this corner here and in these grasses

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we can see that you know once again

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there's really not any more resolution

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there for the zeiss and so we'll take

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another quick look at f 5.6 and see if

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that has uh cleared up so again we have

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uh rokinon on the left we have zeiss on

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the right and so if we look on this side

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we see that

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um number one chromatic aberrations

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still haven't really cleared up on the

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rokinon and so that's certainly an

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advantage for zeiss but at the same time

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our results are pretty much the same i

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would say that they're pretty close to

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being similar in terms of overall

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sharpness here but neither are you

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seeing a you know clear advantage for

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the zeiss either and if we look up into

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this kind of corner in the foreground i

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would say that the rokinon is delivering

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the stronger image

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so now we're going to compare the tamron

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with the zeiss this is both shot at 18

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millimeters f 2.8 so zeiss on the right

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tamron on the left and so number one you

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can see that the tamron has far less

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vignette here than what the zeiss does

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so that's one advantage for

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the tamron now if we look towards the

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center of the image and i live view

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focused on this rock right here to give

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us a kind of a middle distance that

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should allow for a lot of everything

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else to be in focus we can find that

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while the look is not similar there

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appears to me to be a bit more contrast

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on the tamron and a little bit more

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definition in the tree these are both

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shot on the 5d mark iv

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and and so once again as we kind of pan

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this way the image looks pretty similar

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um however on these rocks there's

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probably just a hint more resolution for

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the tamron they're pretty close i mean

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we'll call them

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equal if we look at these chairs that

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are hidden up in here they're also

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looking pretty much similar as we move

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towards the edge of the frame though i

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look at this sign and i definitely see

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an advantage for the tamron it's just a

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little bit sharper

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and

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here in these rocks and of course we're

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getting close to a depth of field issue

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here but um for the vignettes kind of

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hurting the zeiss image but overall here

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the uh the tamron um looks just a hint

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better

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so here we're stopped down to f 5.6 and

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here's something interesting begins to

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emerge um number one we see that while

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they're both the

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the same basic basic exposure that one

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400th of a second at 5.6 iso 100 exact

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same body they're shot within just a few

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minutes of each other you see that the

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exposure value is radically different in

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that the zeiss looks overexposed but in

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reality it's needing far less light than

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the tamron and so the light transmission

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is clearly favors the zeiss lens here

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and uh and so here if we actually look

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it's it's kind of hard to compare with

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that much exposure on there so what i'm

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going to do is i have actually

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tried to equalize exposure and by the

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way i needed about a stop and a half to

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get the histograms relatively close

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on each one and so what we're going to

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do now is we're going to jump in here

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and take a look now that they're a

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little bit more balanced and so here in

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the middle um you know there's still

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actually a little bit more exposure for

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the zeiss than there is for the tamron

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even after all of that

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i'm not really necessarily seeing an

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advantage for either lens if we look at

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these chairs they're both nicely

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rendered i would say that there's

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perhaps a hint more definition in the

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leaves over here if we pull over this

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way it definitely looks like the tamron

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is sharper in this little area of rock

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here

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and and here on this rock too so i would

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say and definitely on the sign i mean

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it's a clear advantage and clear

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advantage here um along this fence that

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there's just more definition there and

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in these rocks over here so i would say

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that um certainly the the center

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sharpness may be about equal but the

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edge sharpness that definitely goes to

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the tamron

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and finally i'm not really going to

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compare these two images but more just

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to show again that that

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exposure difference this is the exact

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same exposure shot four minutes apart

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but look how much more light um the

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zeiss is sucking in and so um if that's

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something that's important to you that

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certainly is a factor that the zeiss

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needs far less light than what the

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tamron does to

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um to to produce the the image and so

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that's something to take under

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consideration as a part of this

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here just want to quickly show you that

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with a very inexpensive

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height of filter

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i was able to throw on their long

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exposure and so then with just a little

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bit of post-processing i was able to

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produce a really dynamic

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image there and similarly here

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this is

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just a 10 second exposure middle of the

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day

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but you know with some processing able

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to produce a really cool result and then

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to crop in that a bit

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and

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you know change the look up to you know

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emphasize the movement of the water

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along the rocks so that's one advantage

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of that little 77 millimeter front

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filter thread this is straight out of

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camera here just shows the lens is very

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dynamic here's a lot of light coming

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towards the sensor all of these cars

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passing by but you'll notice the

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it's it's held up very very well against

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that flare similarly here and a lot of

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movement in the sky another long

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exposure shot here but a great result

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there

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finally just you know this is an f4 shot

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you know kind of a more traditional

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look and if you look up it here there's

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just great definition but look in the

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transition

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from the leaves moving up to the sky or

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from the branches no chromatic

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aberration at all that's a flawless

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performance right there so as you can

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see while the milvis produces beautiful

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images it doesn't necessarily blow away

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either the tamron or the rokinon

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optically and in fact in some ways i

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think it gives up some to them

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particularly in the corners i think what

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you're seeing is the result of what i

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call a law of diminishing returns that

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in recent years lenses have gotten so

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much better across the field it used to

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be that first party were up here and

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third party were way down here it used

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to be that

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you know that expensive lenses were way

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up here and inexpensive lenses were way

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down here but we've seen a leveling of

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the playing field due to advances that

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are trickling down to other

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manufacturers and to less expensive

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lenses and so until there's another huge

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optical breakthrough i think that you're

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going to see a lot of parity and in fact

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that's what i've been seeing in recent

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years that particularly in the last two

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years that there have been so many good

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lenses released often at the same um

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focal length that really you have to

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kind of turn to other measures to make

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your buying decision and and i think

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that that's going to be true with the

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milvis 18 millimeter is it a great lens

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it absolutely is and i've been really

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thrilled with the images i've been able

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to produce with it

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at the same time when you measure it

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head to head with less expensive options

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it isn't necessarily a sharper lens

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compared to them

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and then so that's just something to

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take into consideration if you're

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looking for a zeiss lens and looking for

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this focal length it's a great option

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and if you're looking for a great

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landscape lens it is a great option but

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at the same time know that spending the

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more money to get this lens isn't

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necessarily going to get you a more

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highly performing lens than some of the

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less expensive alternatives and i have

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to confess that that cools my enthusiasm

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somewhat for it it's a great lens i love

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using it it's beautiful to look at and

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it's beautiful to use and it creates

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great images but at the same time i

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wouldn't necessarily call it exceptional

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in the sense of being better than other

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similar lenses

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you will find

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can also find a link to my full written

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