Steelers Talking With Mason Rudolph | Top Center Option Revealed

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1 Mar 202433:09

Summary

TLDR2024年NFLコンバインがインディアナポリスで開催され、ピッツバーグ・スティーラーズの動向が注目されました。GMのオマール・カーンはメディアとの会見で、クォーターバックの状況や、メイソン・ルドルフとナジ・ハリスの契約オプションについて語りました。特に、ケニー・ピケットがスターターであることを再確認しつつ、他の選手とも交渉を進めていることを明かしました。また、NFLドラフトに向けてセンターやコーナーバックの補強を検討していることも話題に。スティーラーズは有望な新人を獲得し、チームの将来をさらに強化するための準備を進めています。

Takeaways

  • 😀 The Steelers are still in talks with Mason Rudolph's representatives about a potential return
  • 😮 Omar Khan says the team has 'full faith' in Kenny Pickett as the starting QB
  • 👍 Harris' 5th year option was addressed - decision will come in May
  • 😊 No trade is off the table at QB but Pickett is the guy until further notice
  • 😎 The team released some veterans to give them a head start in free agency
  • 🤔 Center is a big need, Nate Herbig is an option there along with free agency and the draft
  • 🧐 Met with top cornerbacks at the combine, did NOT meet with rising prospect Qunicy Mitchell
  • 🌟 Cooper Deine and Joey Porter Jr. would be an electric CB duo for the Steelers
  • 🍤 Enjoying some dangerously spicy shrimp cocktail at famous St. Elmo's steakhouse in Indy
  • 💪🏈 Very excited to meet with the offensive linemen at the combine tomorrow

Q & A

  • What is the main topic discussed in the video?

    -The main topic is the Pittsburgh Steelers' current quarterback situation and plans going into the 2024 NFL draft and free agency period.

  • What is the Steelers' stance on Mason Rudolph?

    -The Steelers have been in contact with Mason Rudolph's representatives and have reiterated they want him to return in 2024 to compete with Kenny Pickett for the starting job.

  • Who did the Steelers meet with at the NFL Combine?

    -They met with top cornerback prospects Kool-Aid McKinstry and Eli Ricks from Alabama as well as Cooper Dejean. They did not meet with Toledo cornerback Quentin Johnston.

  • Who are some potential options to replace Mason Cole at center?

    -General manager Omar Khan mentioned Nate Herbig and James Daniels as options. He also said they are open to the draft, free agency, or even trades.

  • What pick do the Steelers have in the upcoming draft?

    -They have the 20th overall pick in the first round.

  • Who are some cornerbacks the hosts like for the Steelers?

    -They mentioned liking Nate Wiggins from Clemson and Kool-Aid McKinstry from Alabama. However, their favorite option seemed to be Cooper Dejean.

  • Why didn't the Steelers meet with Quentin Johnston?

    -The hosts speculated it's because they have already done a lot of homework on him and are trying to hide their interest in drafting him.

  • What is the famous spicy cocktail sauce in Indianapolis?

    -It is the shrimp cocktail sauce from St. Elmo's Steakhouse, known for causing intense sinus clearing and making people cry.

  • What positions will the Steelers be evaluating over the next couple days?

    -Quarterbacks and offensive linemen.

  • What are the hosts doing later that evening?

    -Going to St. Elmo's Steakhouse for dinner.

Outlines

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🏈 NFLコンバイン2024:ピッツバーグ・スティーラーズの展望

インディアナポリスで行われた2024年NFLコンバインにおけるピッツバーグ・スティーラーズの動向に焦点を当てたエピソード。オマー・カーンがメディアに対し、チームの現状と計画について多くの情報を共有し、特にクォーターバックの状況について言及した。ケニー・ピケットが現在の第一選択であること、マイソン・ルドルフとナジー・ハリスに関する話題、NFLコンバインでのミーティングについても触れられた。また、インディアナポリスの天候や、スティーラーズのNFLコンバインへの旅行がトルネード警報と共に始まったことなど、様々なエピソードが語られた。

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🔄 スティーラーズのQB戦略とフリーエージェント市場

オマー・カーンは、ピッツバーグ・スティーラーズがクォーターバックのポジションに対してどのようにアプローチしているかについて語り、特にマイソン・ルドルフとの交渉について詳述した。ルドルフの代理人との連絡が取られており、彼に対する完全な信頼が示された一方で、彼が市場でのオプションを探ることも理解している様子が伝えられた。フリーエージェントの市場が開くまでの期間と、スティーラーズがルドルフを再契約するためにどのように待つかが議論された。

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🔄 センターポジションの計画と将来の選択肢

オマー・カーンはセンターポジションに対するスティーラーズの計画について語り、メイソン・コールが2024年の計画に含まれていないことを明らかにした。さらに、センターとしてのネイト・ハービッグやジェームズ・ダニエルズの可能性について言及し、NFLドラフトやフリーエージェント市場、トレードを通じた補強の可能性に開かれている姿勢を示した。特に、ブライアン・アレンへの関心が示唆された。

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🤔 スティーラーズのドラフト戦略とセンター選択

スティーラーズがセンターのポジションをどのように補強するかについての戦略が語られた。特に、ドラフトでの選択肢としてザック・フレイザーの名前が挙げられ、彼が上位で指名される可能性とその影響について考察された。また、フリーエージェント市場におけるベテラン選手の獲得と、将来のスターターとして開発できる若手選手のドラフトのバランスについて議論された。

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🔍 コーナーバックの見通しと隠れた戦略

スティーラーズがNFLコンバインでコーナーバックの候補として会見した選手たちと、会わなかった選手たちについての分析。特に、クイン・ミッチェルとの面会がなかったことが注目され、これが彼らの隠れた戦略の一部である可能性が示唆された。また、コーナーバックの選択における優先順位と戦略について詳細が語られ、特にクーパー・ディーンとナテ・ウィギンスへの関心が強調された。

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🌪️ NFLコンバインでのスティーラーズの活動と展望

コーナーバックのポジションにおけるスティーラーズの戦略と彼らがNFLコンバインで行った活動についてのまとめ。アーノルド・エビケティ、クーライド・マッキンストリー、ナテ・ウィギンス、クーパー・ディーンといった選手との面会が行われた一方で、クイン・ミッチェルとの面会がなかったことから、彼らのドラフト戦略に関する憶測が生まれた。また、スティーラーズがどの選手を重視しているかについての分析が行われた。

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Keywords

💡NFLコンバイン

NFLコンバインは、NFLドラフト前に開催されるイベントで、大学フットボールの選手たちが、体力テストや面接を通じてNFLのスカウトやコーチから評価を受ける機会です。このビデオスクリプトでは、ピッツバーグ・スティーラーズの取材班が2024年のNFLコンバインに参加しており、インディアナポリスでの活動や選手たちとの面談について話しています。

💡ピッツバーグ・スティーラーズ

ピッツバーグ・スティーラーズは、アメリカ合衆国のプロフットボールチームで、NFLに所属しています。このビデオでは、スティーラーズの将来の戦略、特にクォーターバックの状況やドラフト戦略に焦点を当てており、チームの方向性についての洞察が提供されています。

💡ケニー・ピケット

ケニー・ピケットは、ピッツバーグ・スティーラーズのクォーターバックです。このスクリプトでは、彼がスティーラーズの現在のスターターであること、そして彼の地位が変わるまで彼がその役割を継続することが強調されています。

💡メイソン・ルドルフ

メイソン・ルドルフは、ピッツバーグ・スティーラーズのクォーターバックで、自由契約選手(FA)の状態です。彼の将来とチームとの再契約の可能性についての議論がスクリプトで取り上げられています。

💡ドラフト

NFLドラフトは、大学フットボールの選手がNFLチームに選ばれる年次イベントです。このビデオでは、スティーラーズのドラフト戦略、特にセンターのポジションやディフェンシブバックの選手選びに焦点を当てています。

💡自由契約選手

自由契約選手(FA)は、現在所属チームとの契約が終了し、他のチームと契約する自由を持つ選手のことです。このスクリプトでは、メイソン・ルドルフのFA状態と、他のチームのオファーを検討する彼の権利について話題に上がっています。

💡センター

センターは、フットボールのオフェンシブラインのポジションの一つで、スナップを行う選手です。スクリプトでは、スティーラーズがセンターのポジションを強化するためにドラフトや自由契約選手市場での選手獲得を検討していることが述べられています。

💡トルネード

トルネードは、激しい回転風を伴う自然災害です。このスクリプトでは、インディアナポリスでトルネードが発生したことが触れられ、その経験が取材チームによって語られています。

💡オマー・カーン

オマー・カーンは、ピッツバーグ・スティーラーズの管理職で、メディアへの発言がこのビデオスクリプトで引用されています。彼はチームのクォーターバック状況やドラフト戦略について語り、スティーラーズの将来計画についての洞察を提供しています。

💡インディアナポリス

インディアナポリスは、アメリカ合衆国インディアナ州の都市で、2024年のNFLコンバインの開催地です。このビデオスクリプトでは、インディアナポリスでのトルネードの発生や、スティーラーズの取材チームの活動について触れられています。

Highlights

Discussion of Pittsburgh Steelers' quarterback situation and comments from Omar Khan

Mention of new Steelers merchandise website to support children's hospital

Talk about replacements for departing Steelers players like Mason Cole

Speculation about Steelers' interest in drafting cornerback Quincy Mitchell

Transcripts

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Pittsburgh Steelers they are now three

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days through the NFL combined plenty of

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action Omar Khan spoke to the media

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today with really a ton of news a ton of

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insight on where the Pittsburgh Steelers

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are going how they're handling their

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quarterback situation and once again

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reiterated it is Kenny picket until it

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is no longer Kenny pick it but we got

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some thoughts on that Mason Rudolph naag

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Harris is fifth year option and of

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course who they are and are not meeting

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with here at the NFL combined uh it's a

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beautiful day in Indiana there was a

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tornado here like yesterday two days ago

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yeah dude it was the wildest wildest

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sleep of my life I might have told you

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that I don't remember what day was 75

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degrees what day we talked when the

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tornado came through but I stayed up all

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night and just stared at my window

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waiting for something to come through it

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it was insane hope the weather's a

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little bit better back in the Berg how

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you feeling my friend it's good I mean

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it wouldn't be an all Steelers trip to

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the NFL combine without a tornado

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warning that's I feel like you got to

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check that box that's like the free

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space in the in the Bingo uh we don't

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have any tornadoes here uh it is

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freezing cold uh but we just got to make

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it through today this weekend's going to

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be G be beautiful so we just we're we're

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fighting through today and once we get

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through it that's all that matters yeah

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it's the the same here if it's windy

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it's like your bones are breaking and if

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it's calm you're like all right we could

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we could deal with this I'm from

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Pittsburgh it's not I feel bad for

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everybody coming in from Vegas in the

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west coast and I mean Donnie drun is

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having a hard time out here in his

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sweatshirts so they're they're surviving

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we're just we're getting through every

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second every day today Omar Khan spoke

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to both the local media and the media as

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a mass addressed a bunch of stuff

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obviously the Steelers quarterback

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situation was the the biggest thing the

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biggest topic of note by everybody he

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was immediately asked hey what are you

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going to do he was actually asked are

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you going to trade for Justin fields and

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uh he didn't shut the door yes it's

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crazy no

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no he had more to say about Kenny picket

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more to say about Mason Rudolph than he

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did anybody else and I think that's

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where we start today he uh confirmed

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that the team has been in contact with

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Mason Rudolph's Representatives also

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said that they have quote unquote full

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faith in Kenny picket to this point

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reiterated once again that they want

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Mason Rudolph to return but he also said

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that uh he thinks every player has the

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right to or or you know deserves to see

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what options are out there you look at

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the situation you hear what Omar says

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today it's it's almost nothing new but

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you hear it from another voice in

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another way um your thoughts you know to

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know that they're that they're still

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reaching out you think that uh talks are

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going smoothly at this point we're a

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little under two weeks away from the

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actual free agency doors opening and the

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Steelers have the opportunity still to

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Ink a contract before then if if they'd

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like to yeah I think you know like you

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said this is a lot of the same

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information just kind of repackaged into

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Omar Khan but I what I found notable was

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you know what Khan said about you know

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how every player deserves to kind of

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explore their own Market um because I

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think that kind of indicates to me that

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this is going to be a slow process with

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Mason Rudolph they are going to I mean

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because the reality is whether or not

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Omar Khan thinks that every player

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deserves to explore their own Market

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they're going to uh so you know Mason is

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going to see what he can get he's going

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to see what his options are he's going

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to see who wants him um you know I I

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think I had higher expectations than uh

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for what he could get and the

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opportunities that he could get then it

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seems like some other people like

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especially in the National media think

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um so you know wherever his Market goes

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Mason's gonna follow it and he's going

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to really do his homework because I

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think I've said earlier in the offseason

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this is a a huge offseason for him like

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personally uh this is a pivotal year for

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him to get a paycheck for him to maybe

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get an opportunity somewhere that leads

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into another big paycheck so he he's

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owes it to himself to you know like Omar

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said explore all of his options see

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what's really going to be the best fit

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for him and to that extent uh the

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Steelers are going to just have to

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probably wait a little bit you know uh

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because that's going to be a process

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that's going to take a minute uh he's

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going to exhaust every kind of Avenue

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that he has for seeing what he can get

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and so the Steelers are going to have to

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be a little patient I feel like he knows

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what the Steelers are going to be able

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to offer him what their deal is what the

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situation is there

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and you know until he makes a decision

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though the Steelers are kind of forced

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to sit on their hands a little bit

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because they've said they they want

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Mason back they want him to to be a part

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of this competition with Kenny picket so

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kind of hinges on what he decides to do

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I agree I I I look at the situation and

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I say the Steelers understand fully that

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they are probably going to walk into

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free agency and maybe Mason gets a new

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deal maybe not can I ask you this do you

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think that the Steelers and we've had

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this conversation before but I think

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that things have changed and we've

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talked to a lot of people since then and

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gotten some insight on really the

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direction that the Steelers are looking

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do you think

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that they're they're willing to wait at

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least maybe a day or two into free

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agency and saying hey you know Mason

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still hasn't signed elsewhere we'll

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we'll we'll keep the door open because

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we'd like him to see just like just like

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he said just like Omar said we'd like

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him to see what his Market is that we

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can play with that maybe best casee

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scenario it suits them better because

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his Market's not that high and he wants

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to come back for Pittsburgh for maybe

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less money Oh you mean like wait for him

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to kind of get some offers from other

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teams and then see react maybe not even

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offers but maybe just you know open like

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I we've had the conversation before

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where it's you kind of think maybe the

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Steelers won't give Mason Rudolph time

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to explore other things because they'll

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look to move on do you think that

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instead they'll view it as look at he

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deserves the opportunity to go in free

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agency but we want him to be our guy

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Omar kind of let it slip for like a half

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a second that he was like he's like yeah

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Mason does like it here in Pittsburgh

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and then you know went back to the whole

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but but he's a free agent and I was like

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yeah you know I think both sides kind of

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they they like each other Mason just

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fully understands that he may never have

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this opportunity again so do you look at

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it and just say maybe they'll leave the

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door open for a day or two once the

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Market opens just to say okay we'll

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we'll let do his thing and then hope he

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comes back I I think what they'll say is

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look just before you make any final

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decisions yeah come back to us like like

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let us give us a chance to basically

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give us a chance to match this and if

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you don't like it you don't like it you

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can go sign with who you want to but

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just let us kind of have the final say

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let us like you know decide you know let

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us let us respond to any offers you get

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because I think like you said there is

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definitely mutual interest uh I think

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Mason has a personal attachment to this

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city um to the team to the team that

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drafted him um and especially after

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getting the kind of chance that he did

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towards the end of the season I think he

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feels feels a connection to the

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organization in that way and so I don't

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think he's gonna say completely oh I'm

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closing the door as soon as I get an

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offer that I like um I I think he's

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gonna I guess you could call it doing

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right by the Steelers but I think he's

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going to to keep that door open because

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who knows how far who who knows how high

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the Steelers are willing to go I mean

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especially if that price tag isn't as

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high as maybe I thought it was going to

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be I think the Steelers would absolutely

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be willing to reach a little bit more

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with the improve with the uh higher

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salary cap with with all of the the

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stuff that they have going on so um I

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think they are they are saying to Mason

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you know hey just keep us in mind we're

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gonna still be here we're we're we're

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willing to to be a little bit patient

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with you too I I agree I agree I think

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that the Steelers and Mason probably

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have an understand and I think Mason

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does too like I I think Mason wants to

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see if he could get more money but I

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don't think he thinks there's a better

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opportunity and I don't think that there

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is a better opportunity I don't think

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you could go anywhere else and say well

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I'm the in like he's nobody's going to

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guarantee him a starting job and at

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least in Pittsburgh you're gonna have

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the opportunity to compete with somebody

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that really you've already beaten out

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like once get a fair shot you've already

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beaten out Kenny picket so I don't think

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that he's gonna have an O I think he's

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gonna view the Steelers as this is a

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spot where if the Steelers offer me a

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realistic contract something that I

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think I could work with and nobody's

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tossing me crazy dollars the Steelers

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are the team I'm going to sign with and

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I think Pittsburgh understands that I

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think Omar Khan understands that I think

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that they want they they know he wants

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to do his due diligence obviously

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because this is a lot like it's not a

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couple of bucks you know it's not like

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you might get a million dollars more

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here a million like I think you know

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they're leaving it open just in case

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somebody wants to be like hey here's $10

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million a year okay sounds good like

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that's where I'm going you know but I

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don't think that he views anywhere else

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as a better opportunity than Pittsburgh

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and I think because of that both sides

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will kind they'll they'll be they'll

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have some wiggle room you know to during

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this whole thing to say you explore what

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you need to explore we understand that

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we kind of we kind of hold some upper

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ground and we'll we'll take it from

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there and and once that happens you know

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if Mason goes elsewhere then you take it

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to step two but for right now it kind of

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just sounds like there's a process and

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and both te both sides have an

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understanding and I don't think we've

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gotten to that point yet when it came to

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to this

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negotiation yeah yeah exactly and

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they're both yeah I think the the fact

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that like

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Mason I like I'm just surprised that

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their interest doesn't seem to be as

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high like from elsewhere you know like

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you haven't heard any Buzz about like oh

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so and so team is is interested in Mason

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Rudolph Mason Rudolph's a fit for so and

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so team who needs a quarterback uh I I

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think that that gives the Steelers a

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little bit of calm that Mason a little

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bit of okay let me be patient with this

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as well let me see where the market goes

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with this I think both sides are not I

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mean standoff makes it sound like

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they're like like it's an adversarial

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relationship which I don't think it is

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but it's just everyone's just kind of

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holding holding where they are right now

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uh and then the Justin Fields trade will

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drop and then we'll you know and then

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it's all new and then it'll all change

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and then everything will change and then

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Everything Will Change in the in the

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midst of I was actually hilarious Omar

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Omar's talking and he gets asked that

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and uh I'm sure we'll toss the video up

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on YouTube at some point but he gets

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asked about Justin Fields And he says

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everything's open and then somebody else

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is like what about Kirt cousins and

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Russell Wilson and it was obviously in a

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joking Manner and Omar couldn't even

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hold it back and I was like that's uh

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that's good at least he knows you know

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for everything uh he also spoke about a

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number of other things uh the biggest

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one obviously Center addressing that

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Mason Cole wasn't in their plans in 2024

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and he just kind of addressed hey it's a

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respect thing it's same with chuk same

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with Presley uh same with Mitch trabitz

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once they realized that they were not

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going to be part of the team this

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upcoming season they figured they give

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everybody a head start in free agency

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which I think is a respect thing I I

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respect that um I get that maybe you

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could have got something for chuks cor

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for but I think the rest of them it was

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it was a good move and I think somebody

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like CHS who you kind of hoped worked

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out didn't work out I respect the fact

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that you could just say we'll let him

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sign where he wants to sign instead of

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forcing a trade on him because he will

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be valuable somewhere else and chances

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are you're gonna get like fifth round

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pick you know it's not going to be a lot

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for TR cor 4 he did say in replacing

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Mason Cole for Center Nate herbig is an

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option James Daniels is an option but he

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said that he had a very good year at

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guard and the Steelers enjoyed what he

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did in guard thought he improved so I I

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think I agree there said he's open to

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the NFL draft open free agency open to

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trades if there is a trade available for

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a center I think trading for a center is

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as difficult as it comes because there

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are 32 good ones and then there are 32 I

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ones and I don't know if you're taking a

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shot at an i one you look at free agency

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I've been told uh that the Steelers have

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some interest in a name like Brian Allen

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probably guy to watch you think that's

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the uh way to go you think the Steelers

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are I mean we'll find out on Saturday

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when they talk to the the centers and

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the offensive lineman but you hear that

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you think it kind of changes your mind

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sculpts a little bit more towards

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veteran over maybe a rookie to be quite

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honest not really um I I I still think

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that they're G to look more towards the

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draft I feel like the draft is the

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better route to be quite honest I feel

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like uh you know Khan also did mention

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that he feels like it's a deep you know

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not just Center class but offensive uh

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but not just Center class but offensive

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line class as a whole um so I feel like

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there are going to be plenty of options

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for them to pick up a guy who has the

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potential to be a long-term option um

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that's the thing like uh you know BR

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brayan Allen he was or Braden Allen he

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was he's the Rams right Brian Allen

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excuse me from the Rams he's 28 I want

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to say really he's that young and my I

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thought I he was much older but I I

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changes things a little bit but I still

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feel like a guy that you can build

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around for cheap for a lot longer is the

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better way to go um and I feel like

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that's a that's a draft thing and there

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are at least three guys maybe four guys

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that I think you would feel comfortable

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doing that with so um I I'm still kind

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of sold on the draft for right now um

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like you said I don't I just don't know

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what the the free agent Center Market is

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going to look like and is that a

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position that the Steelers really want

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to invest big time money in uh because

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like you need an obvious upgrade there

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how obvious is like because there's also

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like levels to it I feel like in the

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free agent like there is there is the

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the like $10 million guys like the Ryan

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janson's or um BL blanket on the Bears

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guy but uh he just got cut um forget his

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name Cody white yeah yeah yeah yeah like

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there are guys like that who are you

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know six seven uh you know upwards of

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that that many millions of dollars and

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then everyone else is like one million

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two million one and a half million um

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yeah for like probably for a reason um

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so yeah that's what leads me to believe

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that you bank on you know one of these

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good centers in this draft I feel like

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there's there's tons of potential there

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that you can you know if you're I'd

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rather you know I'd rather roll the dice

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on on a younger guy in the draft than

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than go for a free agent in my mind I I

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agree I think the the issue with the

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draft that is becoming a thing is Zack

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Fraser is starting to climb heavily up

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boards I saw a couple mocks oh while I'm

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here in Indie just like eating at a bar

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or something scrolling across the bot

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botom of a ticker that said like Frasier

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going 25th or Frasier going 29th and if

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him and Jackson P Johnson are gone in

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the first round and the Steelers don't

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draft either of them which I think

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Frasier at 20 is it I mean I think

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you're just shooting a little bit too

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high there that could become an issue

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and I think if that continues if that

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Trend continues you could look at it and

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say maybe you sign a Brian Allen maybe

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that's where their interest comes from

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and then you draft a guy later in the

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you know third fourth round and you

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utilize that to develop him you know and

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you say okay look we could get two good

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years out of Brian Allen before he's 30

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years older and then at that point this

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next guy's good to go and I think Brian

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Allen's a starter I think he's a capable

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dude in the NFL I they definitely an

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upgrade over Mason Cole and if you

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aren't going to land one of these top

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two which I think they you know if they

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have an opportunity to great but if

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we're being honest I've been told down

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here by I've been talking to a number of

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draft experts who are not as high on

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Jackson power Johnson as me and you were

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and that's a little concerning if they

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could get maybe a little bit deeper in

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the draft I think a veteran makes sense

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maybe Nate hering makes sense I'm I'm

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skeptical on moving Nate hering to

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Center I'm not like a proponent of you

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take a guy who plays guard who jokes

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about how he doesn't play center and

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tell him to play center I just don't

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think that that's the but maybe they

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like him you know maybe that's the

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that's the big move I I don't know but I

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could see a veteran signing

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and a guy like Brian Allen's young

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enough that you could still utilize him

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and have two three good years in them

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and then draft a guy if if it doesn't

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work out that way and you know do that

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because with the 20th pick I mean you

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could Draft Zack Frasier if he's still

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available I think Jackson power Johnson

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will be gone yeah exactly but you're

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gonna you're gonna get that like now you

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passed up on really good Corners you

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passed up on really good offensive

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tackles I just don't know if it's the

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best move and the board just might not

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shake out in their favor yeah yeah

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that's yeah Zach Zack Frasier could kind

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of blow this all up if he rises to

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around the the 20th Mark and I

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definitely I I don't think I would use

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the the 20th pick there there's just

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like better value I feel like at other

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positions um yes yeah I I I guess I

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guess it depends on just how high like

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how how this Center because

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it's I don't know it's it's a good

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Center class I feel like but it is but

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after those but you need a starting

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caliber guy you know uh that's the thing

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like whatever move you have to make has

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to be starting caliber right away um and

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if you don't if you're not convinced

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about one of those top four guys uh then

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just go with a free agent um but like I

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I think any move you make you have to be

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sure that this guy for at least the next

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you know two three years is going to be

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our our Center like it shouldn't have to

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be a position of worry at all and so I

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guess I I think free agent might you

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know a Brian Allen might give you more

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Assurance there like it makes it makes

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it less of a headache you know I think

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you you stay up uh stay up stay you lose

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less sleep over over a Brian Allen than

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you do you know a Zach Frasier or uh

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Cedric van pran or Jackson Powers

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Johnson or even uh I think it's Graham

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Barton right from yeah yeah yeah Grant

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Barton yeah like I think those guys are

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for as much as I like them they are they

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are a role of the dice and if uh you

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know with with uh Frasier like Rising

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the way that he has that I don't know

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that that blows things up a little bit

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like he outlines so I would just that

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yeah that that would be a case where I

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would say that would make me kind of go

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more towards the free agent route I

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think yeah I think if I think Fraser

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depends it the other two guys after him

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I'm just not sold are instant starters

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whereas in like and you could draft them

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you know if you draft him in the third

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round cool you know and I don't think

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you owe anything to Brian Allen to be

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like okay well you were really good for

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a year this new gu 100% ready to go

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um but I I I just think that that's I

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think it's

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definitely an option um both ways and

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from what I'm hearing they just do have

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interest in Brian all so we'll see what

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happens there interesting that Omar Khan

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addressed just that they're approaching

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all options and I don't know even a

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trade would be kind of wild you take it

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to the NFL combined and what they have

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done here so far today was corners and

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defensive backs um they met with some

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safeties didn't meet with all of them if

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we're going to be 100% honest

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I went down to talk to safeties and as I

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was walking down I was like I don't know

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if they're going to talk to safeties and

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they talked to two maybe three of them

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um the rest of them were like yeah no

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like I like Mike doin but he hasn't

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acknowledged my existence and I was like

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all right sounds good

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Corners a bit surprising okay so they

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talked to the two big ones out of

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Alabama Arnold and Kool-Aid mckinstry

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they talked to Cooper Dee who is another

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big one um this guy had a massive crowd

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around him like massive biggest crowd of

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the day surprising name they did not

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talk to Quan Mitchell which I think

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immediately you look at as a just you

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know an outside perspective and say oh

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that's a little bit

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surprising I'm not putting too much

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draft stock into that I'm not putting

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too much into uh they didn't meet with

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them because they don't like them I kind

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of look at it like they sent some Scouts

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to Toledo you don't send Scouts to

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Toledo just

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just to say hey go Scout the Toledo game

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that's just not what they what an N te

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that's not Alabama LSU that's yeah we're

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not looking for the sleeper you know

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nobody's like hey man Toledo they might

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have some guys no Toledo's H out one guy

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and you sent it to go watch the one guy

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the reesei Senior Bowl they met with him

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more than once he even mentioned to me

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that you know Mike Tomlin challenged him

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with Roman Wilson so there's some stock

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there but you see that they don't meet

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at the combine I mean my immediate

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thought maybe I'm wrong here is I mean

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they they hid Kenny picket and they

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tried as hard as humanly possible to

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hide Kenny picket and say they didn't

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like him couple years ago they hid Juju

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Smith Shuster and tried as hard as they

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could to hide Juju Smith Shuster is

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quinan Mitchell their next one to just

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say maybe we could hide quinan Mitchell

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yeah I mean it would make perfect sense

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I mean kind of like Kenny Toledos I mean

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I don't have Google Maps in front of me

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but it can't be that far of a drive from

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Pittsburgh like Kenny was in their

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backyard too like it's a guy that you

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can send a scout to every week or

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something like that or you can kind of

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keep keep a close eye on him because

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he's in your backyard um so I think they

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kind of I think the fact that they

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didn't meet with him was more about well

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yeah we've done our homework on this guy

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like we know what we're getting if he's

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there if he's in the right spot we'll

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take him but you know it's no it's no

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guarantee but just if he's there he's

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there um and I suppose meeting with

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those other guys is kind of a

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contingency plan it's okay we don't know

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these guys as well like let's get to

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know them let's but I I don't know to me

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when they don't meet with him but you

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know we've got all this other evidence

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that they are clearly interested in him

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uh it just kind of makes me think like

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oh this is the top guy on their board

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like this is the number one dude like if

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there is anyone that they want in the

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world this this is the guy yeah I agree

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I I think they're just like I don't know

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like I think it's like a like Mike

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Tomlin like you know it's like when like

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a kid or even like an old guy like

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thinks that they're like pulling one

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over on you they're like Mike Tomlin is

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just sitting around he's like they have

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no idea they don't they have no idea

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that we like we love Quin M it's like

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it's like Middle School Crush like

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you're trying to be like oh if I don't

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if I don't pay attention to her then

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she's G to really want you know that's

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what's going to make her get be really

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into me yeah no the rest of the teams

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they're not gonna like them because we

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didn't meet with quinan Mitchell like I

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just that's exactly what I think it is

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and and I think he's their top guy I've

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been I you know I've been I've Been Told

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by a number of people that he is their

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top guy that this is for weeks now and

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and being here like it's like it's it's

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like walking through a door and somebody

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be like quiny Mitchell top of the

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Steelers draft board and I'm like oh

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nice to see you too thanks you know hope

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the family is well um think that I I I

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don't think they're hiding at all I also

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don't know like what

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you like what do you need to meet with

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them you know you've already done all

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this homework on them like you're going

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to sit down with them and be like hey

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how's it going you know we met twice at

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the Senior Bowl uh right anything change

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you know how's life right like we we've

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met with you like already in a a less

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stressful environment where our like our

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formal meetings aren't you know counted

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as as as strictly like they've they know

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what they need to know about Quin and

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Mitchell I feel like this isn't that's

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what I'm saying they'll bring him in for

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a top 30 visit and they'll sit down Mike

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Tomo have his his conversation with them

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there and that'll be it he'll be

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there'll be a couple of guys at Toledos

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pro day Mike tomin will be one of them

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and you know that's that's just how

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they're going to go about it not worried

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about it at all if he is not there

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because there is a possibility he does

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not make it to 20 the way that he's

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climbing I'm not sure that he's gonna um

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Koolaid mckinstry had great things to

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say Arnold had great things to say uh

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Nate Wiggins also met with the Steelers

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had great things to say um Cooper deine

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had some great things to say about Mike

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tomman all those names could possibly be

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there for the Pittsburgh Steelers um you

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have a favorite of all those that you

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think if you're going to take one you

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you might as well take one and you're

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smiling because you know my favorite but

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do you have favorite I do um you know I

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have like a like man that would be would

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be pretty funny uh if and I'm giving it

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away already but no I I think Nate

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Wiggins is probably like my favorite

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player of those guys um like I love I

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love his length I I like Clemson Corners

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I feel like those guys usually work out

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um I just think of AJ Terell in in

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Atlanta um you know I've watched a

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couple a couple Clemson games and he's

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looked really good um he he seems big

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and strong and physical just kind of in

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the same mold as as Joey Porter Jr so um

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I like that just having two kind of big

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like I like I don't even know what the

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word would be but like bodyguards you

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know in your secondary like guys who

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just throw people around um so I think

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that's why I'd like wa Nate Wiggins but

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your guy I I can

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this guy would be just Electric in the

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city of Pittsburgh I so awesome I mean

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he's going to be electric wherever he

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goes but I think in Pittsburgh too he

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would be he'd be just as electric there

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are just so many things like I like the

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punt returning aspect of it you could

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you imagine Calvin Austin and Cooper

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deine just lining

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up you didn't name him like he just see

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be you know who I'm talking about

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everybody knows who I'm talking about

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there's there's one storyline when it

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comes to the corners that is not Quin

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Mitchell and that is can the Pittsburgh

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Steelers land white lightning and I'm

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just I'm all about it like I'm all about

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it I think he'd be electric I think he'd

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be so fun to watch I also think he's

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phenomenal you know I think he's a great

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Corner that being said though like I'm a

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huge Nate Wiggins guy my only concern

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with Nate Wiggins is he's very skinny

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and I didn't realize how skinny he was

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until he went to the podium today and my

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first thought immediately was you are

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very tiny um but it's the NFL you could

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put some weight on Kool-Aid McKenry I

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will say looks like a Pittsburgh

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Steelers corner like he is he he looks

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like he's going to hit you he looks like

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he's going to play physical he's lengthy

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um he looks like he him and Joey Porter

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Jr would be real dangerous on the

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outside I don't think Arnold has any

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shot of making it to Pittsburgh but that

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would be that would be cool as well you

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think he's gonna go too early because

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that's the thing I feel about I feel

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like Dee is not gonna be there I like I

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didn't I didn't realize Arnold wasn't

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going to be there either like I have no

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idea where McKenry or or um wig W are

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going to land so Wiggins and mckinstry I

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feel like are right around that Steelers

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Mark like 20 to 25 area um mckinstry

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might even go a little bit deeper

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depending but I think if he's there the

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Steelers could grab him um Arnold I

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would expect goes earlier but but I

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think Mitchell changes that I think if

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if if Mitchell goes earlyer maybe Arnold

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doesn't go until 20 and I think that

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move would be great for the Pittsburgh

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Steelers I agree with you though I don't

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think dein makes it to 20 I think it

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would be so awesome if he did I think

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you know if him and Mitchell somehow

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find their way to pick

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20 it's going to be tough that would be

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CRA I've been I've been yeah I've been

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told that those are like when it comes

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to the cornerbacks if the Steelers can

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pick two of them it's those two

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and I mean trade up to pick 21 if they

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both fall they yeah just get off and

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then just tell Joey just be like sorry

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your

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move included this is perfect he's

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included in the trade for 21 and then

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we're everyone is happy now we're

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starting to piss people off you know you

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start you Jo Porter junr in there

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immediately everybody's like yeah I'm

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done you lost me on that one he lost me

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on that one I think they'd be either one

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of them be incredible um I wouldn't put

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any draft I wouldn't put any stock in

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them not meeting with Mitchell here um I

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think that they're they're all in on it

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tomorrow's the quarterbacks um we'll see

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what happens there be a very interesting

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day very interesting day um and then

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obviously the offensive lineman which

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I'm very excited for just like a bunch

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of dudes to because Mike Tom you know

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Mike Tomlin loves loves his offensive

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lineman you know he's going to be in

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there they're going to have the best

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like everybody else was like oh it was

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great he was energetic blah blah blah

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the big guys they're gonna be like oh

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dude he like stood me up he said he said

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let's go me and you right here in the

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corner and I'm very excited for uh for

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them to uh to kind of see that but it

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was a big day here at the NFL combine

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ind's a good time uh going to St Elmos

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tonight we'll miss you we'll miss you

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we'll leave a table out there at s Elmos

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I know I'm sorry I ate the cocktail

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sauce today I was I was better because

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when you for those of you who have never

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been to

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Indianapolis there's a restaurant it's

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called St Elmos apparently it's famous I

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know my dad tells me it's in a song or

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something um and I'm going to get

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blasted in the comments for not knowing

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the song so I apologize um rest they

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have a a shrimp cocktail cocktail sauce

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is and Nick might not even know this

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Nick might be listening to this for the

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first time um they have a shrimp

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cocktail sauce and that tail sauce

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will not just punch you in the sinuses

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but it will clear you out for the rest

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of the year you will have six months of

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clear sinuses just from this Co just

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from this cocktail sauce last year when

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we went to St Elmos Stephen did not know

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about the cocktail sauce and it's just

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kind of like a you know it's a it's a

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it's a right of passes to just sit there

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and let them just do what they got to do

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with the cocktail sauce so most times

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people go full dip because you know

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you're you got a shrimp you're boom got

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one you know you can't yeah like you're

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just Boop and then you put it in your

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mouth and it hurts like it's not like oh

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that was spicy it's the craziest thing

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they were walking down the hall today

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and you smelt it as they were walking

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down the hall that that's the thing it's

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not even like it is spicy I it is but

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like that's not the overwhelming sense

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that you get you just get like a

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tingling sensation throughout your

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entire face yes yes immediately start

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yeah that's the thing it's not like you

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like ate some Wasabi or something like

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it's just like like it you can't explain

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why you're crying or why everything is

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just like pulsating yeah that's exactly

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it um but there was somebody new today

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oh go ahead no yeah I was gonna say like

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I think I had my first one the last year

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the day like the morning before we went

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to St Elmos and I like had my first one

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in the morning whatever knocked me out

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and then we get St emos that night and

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someone someone had an extra one or like

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didn't want didn't want to eat theirs

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and I had like three I think at dinner

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it was awesome that's the thing it is

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delicious like people are like oh it's a

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good I'm like it's fantastic like I'll

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I'll go through the pain every time

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because it's that good but today there

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was somebody sitting next to me he's

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never had it and you know I just I

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didn't feel right I didn't know him well

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enough he was like he's like why is

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everybody laughing I was like wipe some

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of it off just like you put too much on

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there it's Gonna Hurt um I felt good so

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I'll eat some uh I'll eat some in your

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honor tonight and appreciate it yeah

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when I I'll send a picture of me like

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tearing up or something as it does as

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one does uh with that we're heading out

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of here thank you guys so much for

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jumping on to another episode of all

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back on Monday round out everything that

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you guys miss the next couple of days at

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the NFL combined and hopefully I make it

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back to the city of Pittsburgh if these

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shrimp cocktails do not kill me tonight

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that being said enjoy another beautiful

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day in the bur

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peace

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