The Creative Community 2.0 with Artist Lynda Weinman

Summary

In this episode of the Creative Community, host David Starkey interviews ceramic artist Linda Weinman, delving into her journey from a tech background to 3D printing in ceramics. Linda shares her experience learning digital fabrication for molds, the creative process behind her unique pieces, and the joy of collaborating with other artists. The conversation highlights the importance of embracing imperfections and the challenges of learning new techniques, showcasing the fusion of art and technology in modern ceramics.

Takeaways

• 🎨 Linda Weinman's journey into ceramics began with a desire to have a ceramic studio during retirement, reigniting her passion from high school.
• 👩‍🎨 She initially found traditional pottery classes unsatisfying, leading her to explore digital fabrication for ceramic molds, which combined her tech background with ceramics.
• 💻 Linda's background includes animation, special effects, and 2D graphics, with some experience in 3D from teaching computer graphics.
• 🏠 Her husband's involvement in building a parametric house inspired her to seek a similar creative fulfillment in ceramics, leading to the establishment of her own studio.
• 🔄 The use of 3D software like Rhino for designing ceramic molds was a pivotal moment, as it allowed for the creation of complex shapes and forms not possible with traditional methods.
• 🤝 Collaboration with other artists, such as Patrick Hall, has been a significant part of Linda's growth, combining different techniques and pushing the boundaries of what's possible in ceramics.
• 🌐 The COVID-19 pandemic provided an unexpected opportunity for Linda to focus on learning 3D clay printing, turning a challenging time into a period of creative exploration.
• 🤖 Embracing the imperfections and 'beautiful disasters' that can occur during the 3D printing process has led to unique and interesting pieces in Linda's work.
• 🏆 Linda created 'Insecurity Trophies' to symbolize the struggles and self-doubt that artists face, turning failures into meaningful art.
• 🌱 Her work has been influenced by nature, as seen in pieces inspired by Lotusland's garden, and she has explored various techniques and assignments to grow as an artist.
• 🔮 Linda's upcoming show at Sullivan Goss, titled 'Regeneration,' showcases her evolving style, moving from functional to more sculptural and meditative pieces.

Q & A

What is the main topic of discussion in the interview?

The main topic of discussion in the interview is Linda Weinman's journey as a ceramic artist, particularly focusing on her use of 3D printing technology in her work.

What was the initial motivation for Linda to get back into ceramics?

Linda's initial motivation to get back into ceramics was her desire to have a ceramic studio as she and her husband were building a custom house during their retirement.

How did Linda's background in animation and computer graphics influence her approach to ceramics?

Linda's background in animation and computer graphics influenced her approach to ceramics by allowing her to combine her technical skills with her artistic interests, particularly through the use of 3D software to design molds.

What was the significance of the class Linda took at Anderson Ranch in Colorado?

The class at Anderson Ranch was significant because it introduced Linda to digital fabrication for ceramic molds, which utilized 3D software to design molds. This experience helped her realize she could combine her tech background with ceramics.

What was the first piece Linda modeled using Rhino 3D software?

The first piece Linda modeled using Rhino 3D software was a tray, which was later CNC milled based on the computer instructions.

How did Linda's husband's involvement in architecture influence her work?

Linda's husband's involvement in architecture, specifically building a parametric house, inspired her to explore the possibilities of combining her tech background with ceramics. She discovered that the software used in architecture was the same as what she used in her ceramic designs.

What was Linda's experience like when she first started learning 3D clay printing?

Linda's experience when she first started learning 3D clay printing was challenging but rewarding. She taught herself through YouTube videos and reached out to others who knew how to do it, turning her dining room into a 3D clay printing room.

What is the significance of the term 'beautiful disasters' in Linda's work?

The term 'beautiful disasters' refers to the unexpected and imperfect outcomes that sometimes occur during the 3D printing process. Linda embraces these imperfections, finding beauty in the chaotic results and even creating pieces based on these accidents.

Can you describe the collaboration between Linda and Patrick Hall?

Linda and Patrick Hall collaborated on a project where Linda's 3D printed pieces were combined with Patrick's traditional pottery. Patrick, an accomplished potter, contributed the base and lid of the pieces, while Linda provided the 3D printed neck sections.

What advice does Linda give to someone interested in pursuing a similar path in ceramics and 3D printing?

Linda advises starting with learning the software, as it is a significant part of the process. She emphasizes the importance of trial and error, and encourages persistence in overcoming the challenges that come with working with technology and ceramics.

Outlines

00:00

🎨 Linda Weinman's Journey into Ceramics and 3D Printing

In this segment, Linda Weinman, a ceramic artist, is introduced by host David Starkey. Linda discusses her transition into ceramics during retirement, her initial foray into traditional pottery at a community center, and her eventual discovery of digital fabrication for ceramic molds at Anderson Ranch in Colorado. This class reignited her passion for ceramics by combining her technical background with the art form. Linda's background includes animation, special effects, and computer graphics, which she taught. She found a connection between these skills and the 3D software used in both her house construction and ceramics, leading to her deep interest in the field.

05:01

🛠 The Intersection of Technology and Ceramics

This paragraph delves into Linda's experience with digital fabrication for ceramics, highlighting her teacher Del Harrow's pioneering work in the field. Linda describes the process of designing molds on a computer and using a CNC machine to create them, which was a revelation to her. The segment also touches on the contrast between high-tech processes and the organic forms they can produce. Linda's first modeling project, a tray designed in Rhino 3D software, is showcased, illustrating the transition from a blank computer screen to a tangible ceramic piece, with the necessary hand-building techniques that follow.

10:01

🏠 From Home Studio to Creative Exploration

Linda shares her experience of setting up a 3D clay printing room in her dining room during the early stages of the COVID-19 pandemic. She describes the process of learning to use the clay printer through online resources and her enjoyment of the creative process despite the challenges. The segment also discusses the concept of 'beautiful disasters' that occur when the printing process goes awry, leading to unique and interesting outcomes. Linda's approach to embracing imperfections and the creative process is highlighted, along with her philosophy of inventing and solving problems in her art.

15:03

🤝 Collaborative Artistry and the Growth of Artistic Skills

In this part, Linda talks about her collaboration with established potter Patrick Hall, which resulted in a successful show at Sullivan Goss. The collaboration involved combining Linda's 3D printed pieces with Patrick's traditional pottery, creating a unique fusion of techniques. Linda emphasizes the value of such partnerships in enhancing her skills and confidence. She also mentions her use of various resources, including YouTube and courses on 3D modeling, to educate herself during the pandemic.

20:04

🏆 Insecurity Trophies: Embracing the Creative Process

Linda introduces her 'Insecurity Trophies,' a project born from the realization that the failures and imperfections in her work held a deeper meaning. The trophies, initially intended for an event, evolved into a reflection on self-worth and the struggle with the idea of being an artist. Linda discusses the profound impact of embracing mistakes and the personal growth that came from overcoming her initial insecurities and the challenges of learning a new craft.

25:06

🌱 Artistic Inspiration and Upcoming Exhibitions

The final paragraph focuses on Linda's recent and upcoming work, including a show at Sullivan Goss titled 'regeneration.' She discusses her transition from functional to more sculptural pieces, such as a gazing ball, and her 'trippy apothecary jar' series, which combines resin beads, plastic, and ceramics. Linda also shares her advice for aspiring artists, emphasizing the importance of learning the software and embracing the trial-and-error nature of the creative process.

Keywords

💡Ceramicist

A ceramicist is an artist who specializes in creating objects, art, and designs using clay as the primary medium. In the video, Linda Weinman is referred to as a ceramicist, highlighting her work with clay and the use of 3D printing technology to create unique ceramic pieces. The term is central to the theme as it defines Linda's profession and the focus of the interview.

💡3D Printing Technology

3D printing technology refers to the process of creating three-dimensional objects from a digital file by layering material, such as clay, under computer control. The video discusses Linda's use of 3D printing in her ceramic work, showcasing how she integrates modern technology with traditional ceramics to create innovative art pieces.

💡Digital Fabrication

Digital fabrication is the use of digital technologies to fabricate physical objects, often through computer-controlled manufacturing processes. In the context of the video, Linda learned digital fabrication for ceramic molds, which involves designing molds on 3D software and then milling them using a CNC machine, a process that combines her technical background with her passion for ceramics.

💡CNC Machine

A CNC (Computer Numerical Control) machine is a type of computer-controlled machine tool used in the manufacturing process to create parts by cutting, shaping, and drilling materials. In the script, Linda mentions using a CNC machine to mill molds for her ceramic pieces, demonstrating the application of advanced manufacturing techniques in the field of ceramics.

💡Rhino 3D

Rhino 3D is a commercial 3D computer graphics software used for creating 3D models, animations, and renderings. Linda mentions using Rhino 3D to design her ceramic molds, highlighting how this software was instrumental in her creative process and allowed her to bring her designs from concept to physical reality.

💡Parametric Design

Parametric design is a process in which the characteristics of a design are defined by parameters that can be altered to change the shape or form of the design. The video script mentions the first parametric house in Santa Barbara, which Linda's husband helped build, and this concept is also applied in her ceramic work, showing a connection between architecture and ceramics through design methodology.

💡Wabi-Sabi

Wabi-Sabi is a Japanese aesthetic concept that finds beauty in imperfection and impermanence. Linda discusses embracing the imperfections in her work, referring to 'wabi-sabi' as a philosophy that appreciates the unique beauty in mistakes and accidents, which is a significant theme in the video as it relates to the creative process and the acceptance of natural flaws in art.

💡Insecurity Trophies

In the video, Linda creates 'Insecurity Trophies' as a reflection on self-worth and the struggle with feelings of inadequacy in one's artistic endeavors. These trophies, born from her own experiences and mistakes, serve as a symbol of acknowledging and overcoming personal insecurities, thus becoming a key concept in her artistic narrative.

💡Collaboration

Collaboration in the video refers to the process of working together with another artist to create a combined piece of art. Linda mentions her collaboration with Patrick Hall, where they merged their respective skills in pottery and 3D printing to create a unique ceramic piece for an exhibition, illustrating the benefits of artistic partnerships in expanding one's creative horizons.

💡Regenerative Art

While not explicitly defined in the script, the term 'regeneration' in the context of the upcoming show titled 'Regeneration' could be interpreted as art that embodies the concept of renewal, growth, or transformation. Linda's newer work for the show may reflect themes of rebirth or environmental sustainability, suggesting a deeper message within her art related to the cyclical nature of life.

Highlights

Introduction to Linda Weinman, an artist integrating 3D printing technology into her ceramic work.

Linda's journey from a desire to have a ceramic studio to learning digital fabrication for ceramic molds.

Her initial disappointment with traditional pottery classes leading her to explore 3D software for design.

Linda's background in animation, special effects, and computer graphics influencing her approach to ceramics.

The connection between the software used in her house design and the software used in her ceramic work.

The process of creating her first pot after a 50-year hiatus and the lack of fulfillment it provided.

Linda's discovery of Rhino 3D software and its role in designing molds for ceramics.

The importance of hand-building skills in ceramics, even when using 3D printing technology.

The creative process of 'form finding' in the computer for ceramic design.

Linda's experience learning 3D clay printing during the early stages of the COVID-19 pandemic.

The role of imperfections and 'beautiful disasters' in the creative process of ceramics.

Linda's collaboration with established potter Patrick Hall, combining traditional pottery with 3D printed elements.

The use of Grasshopper software for parametric and algorithmic design in ceramics.

Linda's creation of 'insecurity trophies' as a reflection on the struggles and failures in the artistic process.

Her involvement in a fundraiser for Lotus Land, creating pieces inspired by plants.

The upcoming show at Sullivan Goss titled 'regeneration' featuring Linda's new ceramic works.

Linda's advice for aspiring artists: start with learning the software and embrace the trial and error process.

Transcripts

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thank you

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welcome to the creative Community I'm

your host David Starkey and my guest

this time is artist Linda weinman Linda

welcome thank you

um we are going to see a world of clay

today and and other materials and we're

going to talk about uh your work as a

ceramicist and and especially using 3D

printing technology right yeah

um so before we we look at the um the

first image I know people may know you

from your your company

lynda.com but can you talk a little bit

like and sort of give us some context

for how you came to kind of Designing

things on the computer that would

ultimately be printed sure

um I I know when we look at my slides I

kind of put them in their

chronologically so that I could talk

through that particular story but I

wanted to have a ceramic Studio my

husband was building a custom house and

we're retired and I had done Ceramics in

high school and I just remembered that I

loved it and

um I had hoped to get back to that in

retirement and that was basically the

Genesis of of wanting to be involved

with Ceramics right and I took a class

at Community Center here in Santa

Barbara and I it just didn't really

float my boat I was you know I had

thrown before and I made another pod and

it succeeded but it wasn't that

gratifying I was sort of disappointed

that I had asked for the studio and I

was thinking oh my gosh I better you

know figure out if I really like this or

not so I took a class at Anderson Ranch

which is in Colorado

and that class kind of tied me back to

my technical Roots because it was

digital fabrication for ceramic molds

and it was utilizing 3D

software to design molds and I thought

wow that's really interesting maybe I

can combine my tech background with

Ceramics and then once I did that I got

completely hooked right so now if I'm

remembering correctly you sort of got

your start doing animation and special

effects right yes and also a lot of just

2D graphics and computer Graphics in

general and I used to teach computer

graphics and I dabbled a little bit in

3D back then but I would have been

really rudimentary yes although a lot of

the principles are the same in every 3D

program it's kind of

just similar you usually have four views

and you can see the front and the side

the back of the top right you know you

have to sort of navigate in 3D space

okay

um and then there are different terms

for some of the operations that you

would do to make certain shapes

well we're going to see how that come to

life here momentarily but I think the

first slide that we have is is not

actually

um oh yeah tell us about that well I

wanted to

um bring this up because my husband

built with architect Robin Donaldson

who's local uh the first parametric

house in Santa Barbara and probably the

first parametric house in all of

California if not the US and so you can

see that the designs are are very

different than a normal rectilinear home

and

um he was just enjoying designing this

house so much and I was feeling like um

gee I wonder what I do what I could do

you know to be as happy as he is

building this house and so that led me

to ask him if he would build me a studio

and then I figured oh I better make sure

I really like Ceramics before I build

this studio and we just had to guess on

Gwen Lurie who was I think this is a

cover story in the riv correct yeah not

too long ago so

um the and so that must be an

interesting sort of back and forth that

the two of you guys have as you're

talking about your different projects

right truly and what was really shocking

to me when I went and took that class in

Colorado was I was being taught in

exactly the same software that we were

using to build our house

that was a shock

yeah exactly let's take a look at the

next one and I think this is called

first pot yeah so this is when I took

the community college class right what I

threw and the teacher said to me oh it

looks like you've done this before and

you know all the muscle memory came back

um it had been 50 years since I'd thrown

a pot but it's a beautiful it's a

beautiful yet simple piece and

and it was just I don't know it just

didn't do much for me so I was hoping

that I you know would maybe go to hand

building or just learn some different

techniques that were more exciting to me

um but even though I I came out with a

pot I wasn't that excited or inspired

really all right so the next the next

image that we have uh we're looking

who's this working right now

um okay so this was my teacher Del hero

who was teaching the digital fabrication

of molds class okay and he's one of the

Pioneers in that space and so for a lot

of people who do Ceramics mold making is

a a pretty conventional process and

mostly you would make molds off physical

objects or you would hand create a mold

and in this case we were designing the

molds in the computer yeah yes and then

using a CNC machine to Mill Mill the

molds and we're going to see I mean what

was struck me as how um there's a these

really natural or naturalistic forms

that you sort of get out of this you

know super high-tech

programming so let's let's move on and I

think we're going to see the the next

one okay this is a a computer screen

correct so this was this was the first

thing that I modeled uh it was going to

be a tray and and I was you know

teaching myself how to use this is Rhino

3D that was the software that I

discovered in this class was the same

software that the Architects were using

to build our house and of course this is

a way more simple form than what they

were doing but um I think I show in one

of the slides the final outcome of this

particular work but it was going to be

cnc'd with a milling machine and so the

machine

looks at the code and knows where to put

the drill and how to how to make this

form based on the computer instructions

when we're looking at this

um obviously you're starting with a

blank screen I mean are there options

for you to select from oh yeah here yes

oh yes many many options right and then

you're kind of tweaking that as you go

yes and I had that in my mind's eye that

particular form but sometimes I do what

I call form Finding in the computer

where I'm just going through a lot of

different shapes and then finding the

thing that speaks to me and then going

down that rabbit hole that way or

another well I think that it made the

next one maybe actually the the piece

itself yes this is the piece upside down

okay so I'm not really showing them all

but you know you just still have to do

hand building and attach a foot and

these are all things that any ceramicist

would right need to know how to do and

so the is that something that you do by

your by hand yourself then yes I did I

did that and it was actually the first

time I'd ever done it was in this class

okay so I sort of lied to get into the

class you were supposed to be an

intermediate ceramicist and I just

thought I would be able to take to the

software pretty quickly so that I could

maybe fake my way through the rest but I

was I was very embarrassed to be asking

all the other students how to do things

like so rudimentary but I did not know

how yeah but I'm sure they were they

were I mean people are so uptight about

not knowing when you're new to something

and you think everybody is gonna you

know look down on you and and actually

it's quite the opposite I think people

enjoy helping each other I do and you

know we were talking before the show

about this the creative Community It's a

larger Endeavor and I do think that

that's something for people to remember

whatever art field they're in is that

they're there are people out there who

want to help you definitely I think we

all

are you know the star of our own movie

or whatever you know we're all very you

know thinking oh I have you know a hair

out of place or I have you know this

shirt doesn't fit me right or whatever

and then everybody else is just worrying

about their own hair in their own shirt

and so I think there's a lot of

self-consciousness that comes with being

a new artist and a lot of it is just

totally you know in your way and

fabricated by you it's not true good

point well take a look at the next one I

think this is is this the finished

product yeah yeah that's the finished

piece you can kind of see the

resemblance to the computer model and uh

and now what is it made out of it's made

out of b mix which is a type of ceramic

clay white clay yeah it's got a

beautiful shine on it yes I used some

underglaze and some clear I think and

later on I think we're going to see an

image of you glazing away yeah yeah so

the the actual

creation of it it you know it comes from

your mind to the computer it's printed

out but then there's a lot of work

afterwards oh definitely you know it's

uh my husband loves to say that I I'll

do anything that that involves pushing a

button but I think he fails to witness

all the other things that I do besides

push that button okay well let's see

we'll get a glimpse of that

um let's see what what's our next thing

I think this might be

um this is when I first got my clay

printer which was after I took that

class right and it was actually at the

very very beginning of covid and so I

was sort of on my own learning this in

my dining room we turned my dining room

into a 3D clay printing room and uh I

was watching YouTube videos and just

reaching out to people who knew how to

do it and trying to teach myself every

which way yeah it was such a weird time

for everybody I think artists in

particular with this kind of feeling of

Detachment and great uncertainty what's

going to happen did you find out was uh

making these figures was that something

that was reassuring somehow oh I was

having the greatest room I kept saying

to everybody I think I'm the only person

on the planet who loves the pandemic but

you know for me to just have time to

focus on learning something new and do

something so fun and interesting was

really a joy yeah

well let's take a look at the next image

that we have here so um this is a I

think another video showing the the

process yeah how the printing actually

works it's a big tube and it's filled

with wetter clay than normal so in the

beginning I was buying clay that had

been pre-hydrated

um and was the right kind of clay for a

3D printer but eventually I got a pug

mill when I got more serious about it

which is a mixing a clay mixing device

and so now I put water into the clay and

mix it myself and fill tubes myself and

this ball part of the process yeah but

things go wrong I know from talking to

other ceramicists all the time when

you're working with Clay I mean oh yes

um any spectacular stories of things not

going right I mean what's been really

interesting there's also the sort of

wabi-sabi school of um you know embrace

the imperfections embrace the mistakes

and I found that I love it actually when

the machine kind of goes off the rails

and makes I call them beautiful

disasters where it just makes a big pile

of crazy noodles and sometimes they're

so beautiful and it is and there is an

element of a sort of machine and man in

there it's it's just this really

interesting

um sort of half half algorithmic half

just big mess right yeah of of nothing

that makes sense and I actually have

made pieces out of that wow that's great

and I call them beautiful disasters yeah

well and I think that's kind of an

essential part of the creative process

anyway is just going awry and kind of

fixing things definitely and also making

up your own rules you know it's I often

say

um for me what being an artist is is I

am a problem solver but I'm inventing

problems and then I'm solving my own

problems that I've invented and I'm

inventing a set of rules that are in my

head they're really not you know in

stone I mean there are certain rules of

gravity and physics and things like that

you can't do anything about but there

also are just rules about what's

acceptable what's a mistake what's

what's beautiful what isn't those are

all more subjective now as you're are

working on these pieces are you drawing

on a kind of mental

Topography of different pieces that you

admire different artists that you admire

I probably

um you know I think

um

I do love polka dots a lot and I've been

a big fan of yayor kusama for a long

time and you know her her work

um is is um you know it's wild it's wild

but it's also involves a lot of

repetitive patterns and and patterning

and I I love surface design I love

pattern

um and I I am very you know well aware

of art history and especially Modern Art

and so I do have influences but I also

really like to do things that are more

original or are taking me down I call

them rabbit holes but just an area of

Interest I get interested in a certain

feature or a certain idea and then just

keep going and taking it further and

further until I'm bored or distracted

with the next idea well let's let's take

a another look at the at some of these

ideas

what's interesting always just to sort

of hear the abstraction and then to go

take a look absolutely and I mean I

think for some you know painters who are

painting realistically or or even

abstract painters who may have you know

something fully fleshed out in their

mind before they're putting pen to paper

or whatever for me I I don't always

there are times that I do and then there

definitely are a lot of happy accidents

and and little you know side trips that

I take because I find things interesting

okay yeah so yeah so this you know I put

this up here because in the very

beginning it was so mysterious to me I

would see a lot of pieces that people

were posting but I would never see the

model and I thought that it was sort of

interesting to show I think I have

another slide too that shows what the

actual model looked like and then what

the end piece looks like so you can kind

of see on the lower right how that

really spiky piece turned out with all

these Loops yeah and you know sometimes

it's just very mysterious and I started

to blog about you know

how to do things and and ask questions

about why certain things were true and

um and it was just a great way for me to

document my own Learning Journey yeah so

that's your clay butchers

[Laughter]

um how did you come up with that idea

um I mean I was just trying to think of

a name for my blog and

um you know I guess I don't know it's

funny I mean I just thought of this but

like lynda.com was very clearly a female

lead you know

um idea and uh and so I guess the

putting the sort of feminine buttress in

there also kind of nods to the fact that

this is a female well yeah and I hear

the word bot and goddess kind of sort of

true and also

um you know there's sort of the uh am I

um

uh into s m or something you know I mean

there's sort of that as well yeah

exactly but like you know there's sort

of the um that connotation as well I

just thought it was a cute name yeah no

it's cool so is this if somebody wanted

to go here could they purchase their

pieces oh uh no but they could read

about my early journey and my process

and this is my living room table my

dining room table where I had set up my

art studio during covet so do you have

the studio know that you were talking

about I have an amazing studio so you

don't have to do it no I don't

let's take a look at that my husband's

very happy he has some fine little clay

handprints all over the house anymore

um yeah this was

um you know one of my kill loads and I

bought the Kiln also during covid and I

taught myself how to load it on YouTube

and I was really you know kind of

isolated learning this craft and

but I also got to meet a lot of

interesting people I started to study

with different teachers and watch a lot

of YouTube videos and linda.com courses

and all kinds of things on 3D modeling

and it turned out to be a handy resource

it was actually and I and uh you know I

have often used used it for my own

learning but

um it was kind of fun after

um you know being retired to go back and

use it as well that's cool well I'm

going to take a look I think we're going

to we're starting to move towards um

actually some of the the specific pieces

here yeah this is a piece that I

collaborated with Patrick Hall who

um we actually had a show at Sullivan

Goss and he's an extremely accomplished

and established Potter and works very

large he has um he's kind of a super

tall big guy his hands are like twice

the size of mine and he throws enormous

pots and

we were together at the community Clay

Studio in Goleta and he was looking at

some of the 3D things that I was

printing and he had this idea that we

could combine my work in his and it was

a very successful collaboration we ended

up having a show at Sullivan Goss

together

and

um that was something that I wanted to

bring up because

for me collaborating with other artists

has been a way to really grow my own

experiences and my own abilities and

confidence and so um

that was a real joy to get to work with

Patrick and see our two different crafts

combined like that and I think he got

really excited as well so what would be

the specific nature of the collaboration

what did you do and what did he do well

in if we go back to that picture the

neck of the piece is 3D printed and the

base of it is thrown and then he made

the lid so he did the Lion's Share of

the work here

um but you're making difference I'm

giving him a part that he is

uh that he wouldn't not have known how

to do nor would I have known how to do

what he did and so it became a

collaboration let's take a look at the

next image we have out there

this is just showing some of the

software

um it's a little bit visual this is

called grasshopper and it's a type of

parametric algorithmic software that you

can kind of put together like circuit

boardery and

um you can make things with sliders and

you know things like you were asking can

I make the spikes bigger or smaller

things like that so I just thought it

would be interesting to show your

audience what it looks like yeah it

looks really good it does it looks a

little

that's true

here's our show that we had together and

I'm excited to say that I've been asked

by Sullivan Goss to have a new show and

that is going to open in a couple weeks

okay so uh this will be February it's

opening at the end of January 27th

through March 27th okay so if people are

watching this in the far distant future

we're talking about 2023 correct yes

very good point okay so what are we

looking at here okay so these are my

insecurity trophies

um I was asked by a good friend of mine

to make a trophy for an event she's an

event planner and I in on the road to

making her perfect trophy I had all of

these mistakes and mishaps and then I

realized there was a lot of there was

sort of a real profundity to the

mistakes and giving yourself a trophy

for a failure or for

um you know something that we say to

ourselves like for me if the fighting am

I good enough like am I worthy enough to

be an artist do I deserve to put so much

of my effort and energy into being an

artist and so to me the insecurity

trophies were were a piece of work that

I did that I was really proud of because

um and it's funny because I got asked to

do a trophy also for

um the one 805 organization and their

their logo is a heart and I was making

heart bases for them but then a lot of

them were cracking and they weren't

working right and then I looked at those

and said well isn't that the way love is

like you know isn't this more this is

more interesting than a person than a

perfect tour right right to have a

cracked heart you know and so I think

sometimes

um I don't know you listen to some

artists and they talk about all the

meaning in their work and I'm not sure

that I always believe that they knew the

meeting before they started

um for me yeah until the crack happened

and so to me as I was making these

trophies I just realized that that's a

that's a really important idea that

usually you're giving it for what you

think of as good but that there's there

is a lot of failure in art especially in

Ceramics as you pointed out and also

we're so hard on ourselves our uh for me

I was ashamed literally ashamed to go to

that workshop and not know how to do

Ceramics and I think as I was

introducing myself I even got teary

and there were a lot of other people too

who seemed

um you know to be uh apologizing for for

what they didn't know and that's been

something that I'm very happy I've

overcome and it's behind me but I would

say in the beginning it was a big

struggle to get over that

we only got about five minutes left

London I want to make sure that we get a

look at as much of your work sure yeah

this is for Lotus land had a a

fundraiser and they invited me to come

to the Garden get inspired by plants and

so I made a bunch of pieces and these

are some of them and that I also wanted

to mention as a technique to learn and

grow you can advance to the next one is

just you know to be given an assignment

is really a great exercise and the fact

that I wasn't you know I didn't go to

art school I didn't study any of this it

was for me my own Challenge and I just

um was really proud of the work that I

did and and it even sold and they made

you know raise money for lettuce land

which was super cool yeah so yeah we can

keep moving through stuff and this was

something that I made with Joan actually

um we got asked by the curator could we

make a six foot tall Cactus and we did

and so those are her flowers and my 3D

printed Cactus Parts okay yeah I've got

a few of Jones flowers in my bag oh I

bet they're so beautiful yeah and then

there was this article that got written

uh

just included that

um and then I was invited to be in a

show very early on this is Maybe

two years ago at porch gallery and I

thought my name will never be next to

Beatrice wood but there it is there it

is that was pretty amazing and I also

learned that my cousin was in it as well

who I didn't know so now this is

um work that I've been doing for the

show that's coming up with Sullivan Goss

and the name of the show is

regeneration and so

um these are some different pieces that

I've been working on for the show and

these are some this is some of my newer

work wow and I've actually brought a

couple of pieces with me too yeah and

we're like for the same show so these

are some some close-ups of some of this

work that I'll be showing

so the pieces that you brought can you

tell us about them yes

um so let's see this is a gazing ball I

just

um realized that

I've been making a lot of functional

wear and I'm starting to get into more

sculptural work and that it's okay to

just have an object to meditate on the

object and so

um that's made out of this is made out

of clay okay and this is a metallic

glaze

um Jim Haggerty I don't know if you've

ever had him on the show he's an

incredible

ceramicist Master Potter but also he's

been working on these glaze recipes for

40 40 years and they're very very

beautiful and I wonder

that other one is a little bit difficult

to pick up like um no I can get it okay

I'm probably going to take the lid off

I'll take that for you okay

this is um in my trippy apothecary jar

series and

um this is a lattice apothecary jar so

it's obviously can't really hold too

much apothecaries no you can't hold

anything liquid or solid

um and I love to make things with lids

and then this is a also plastic print so

I do work in other mediums this involves

resin beads plastic and Ceramics oh

that's beautiful yeah thank you well

we're down to our last literally our

last minute Linda so I kind of have a

30-second question for you if you can in

just the shortest time what advice would

you give to someone who is just out

there watching the show and they're just

I want to do something like this uh boy

it's it you know you I would start with

the software because I think that's a

big learning group if you already know

and then from there on out it's just

it's kind of this great kind of trial

and error and it's a big fight you know

I say I say all the time I'm fighting my

machines but I'm gonna win yeah you know

like anybody who works on the computer

you're constantly having problems every

direction right well that's kind of an

interesting note

thank you so much

thank you for having me

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Grant from Diana and Simon Robb I'm your

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