Apple Vision Pro the Future of Home Theater? Dolby Atmos in TV Speakers? | You Asked Ep. 24

Digital Trends
28 Jan 202414:30

Summary

TLDRThis video features a TV tech expert answering audience questions about home entertainment. Topics include checking display resolution, the complications of accessing Dolby Atmos music streaming, evaluating Apple Vision AR glasses as an alternative to home theaters, the decline of universal remotes, and misleading Dolby Atmos branding on TV speakers. The host shares tips, critiques industry practices, and aims to help viewers get the most out of their home theater setups.

Takeaways

  • 😕 It's frustrating that many TVs no longer have an easy way to see the resolution and format of the video input signal.
  • 😃 You can force YouTube to play at a specific resolution and see nerdy codec details.
  • 🎧 Dolby Atmos music is needlessly difficult to get working across platforms.
  • 👍 Apple TV continues to be the most reliable streamer for accessing premium features.
  • ☹️ Universal remotes are basically extinct after Logitech stopped making Harmony devices.
  • 😠 Putting 'Dolby Atmos' badges on TVs with weak built-in speakers waters down the brand.
  • 📺 An Apple Vision Pro could provide an incredible personal viewing experience.
  • 🤝 It can't replicate the shared experience of watching with others.
  • 💡 Questions from viewers drive the topics covered on this YouTube series.
  • 👐 More viewer questions are always welcome!

Q & A

  • What are some ways to check the resolution and format of the video signal on a modern TV?

    -Some ways are: using an AV receiver that can read EDID data, looking for on-screen indicators like HDR badges, checking settings in streaming apps like YouTube and Netflix, and using display tools like the 'stats for nerds' section on YouTube.

  • Why is it difficult to get Dolby Atmos music working, even when the devices claim to support it?

    -Compatibility issues between devices and services lead to problems getting Dolby Atmos music working properly. For example, the Tidal app may support Atmos music but not on all platforms like Roku. This forces consumers to buy certain hardware like Apple TV to ensure Atmos music works.

  • Could Apple Vision Pro replace a traditional home theater setup?

    -No, Apple Vision Pro cannot fully replace a traditional home theater. While it may provide amazing visual and audio quality for a single user, it lacks the shared experience of watching movies together that many consumers value.

  • Are there any good universal TV remotes left after Logitech stopped making Harmony remotes?

    -Not really. Logitech's Harmony remotes were the leader in universal remotes, and no major consumer electronics company has stepped in to fill their void. New startups are trying but unproven.

  • Do TVs actually have Dolby Atmos built-in speakers?

    -No, most TVs do not have true Dolby Atmos speaker systems built-in. Dolby has licensed the Atmos name to TVs with better-than-average sound, but tiny TV speakers cannot deliver a real Atmos experience.

  • How can HDMI-CEC allow controlling multiple devices with one remote?

    -HDMI-CEC enables connected devices to communicate and be controlled over HDMI. So a TV remote can control a Blu-ray player, cable box, etc. connected via HDMI without needing multiple remotes.

  • What are some reasons universal remotes declined in popularity?

    -Improvements in HDMI-CEC allowing device control from one TV remote reduced the need for separate universal remotes. Also, remotes for integrated home automation systems serve advanced users.

  • Why did the host recommend Apple TV for easiest media streaming?

    -The host said Apple TV consistently has the fewest compatibility issues and need for workarounds. So it supports Dolby Atmos music and other features out-of-box better than other platforms.

  • How can you force higher streaming resolutions on services like YouTube and Netflix?

    -On YouTube, you can select video resolution under Settings > Quality. For Netflix, you can set Playback Settings on the account to always stream at High quality.

  • What are some of the host's criticisms regarding Dolby Atmos branding?

    -The host felt Dolby Atmos was watered down by being applied to TV speakers that don't deliver a real Atmos experience. He thinks it may hurt the brand long-term.

Outlines

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📺 How to check video resolution and format on your Sony TV

John asked how to check the resolution and format of video signals on his new Sony X90L TV. Caleb explains that most TVs no longer have dedicated buttons or menu options to show this information. He suggests using the HDR indicator, YouTube stats, and streaming service settings to get clues. There are also advanced receivers and professional gear that can detect signals, but they are expensive. Caleb reached out to Sony to ask if they have any hidden tricks to access this info.

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😕 Why Dolby Atmos music is so difficult to get working

Richie bought new AV gear hoping to play Dolby Atmos music, but had to buy an Apple TV because it didn't work easily. Caleb agrees it's frustrating that Atmos music isn't better supported across devices. He thinks it's partly platform limitations and partly business decisions. But the Apple TV consistently works well, which is why Caleb recommends it. People will pay more for fewer headaches.

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🎥 Could Apple Vision Pro replace home theaters?

Chad asked if the Apple Vision Pro could replace a home theater. Caleb believes it could provide amazing picture and sound quality through AirPods. However, he doesn't think it can replicate the shared experience of watching movies with others, which is core to home entertainment. The Vision Pro may complement but likely not replace traditional home theaters.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡resolution

Resolution refers to the number of pixels that comprise a digital image or video. The script mentions resolution in the context of figuring out if a TV is displaying content in 4K resolution. 4K resolution contains approximately 4,000 pixels horizontally, resulting in images with more detail compared to lower resolutions like 1080p. Knowing the resolution is important for assessing the picture quality. The script suggests checking the YouTube video stats and forcing a specific resolution to confirm what you're viewing.

💡codec

A codec is a computer program that compresses and decompresses digital video. Different codecs have different levels of compression and video quality. The script recommends checking the 'stats for nerds' section on YouTube to see codec information. This helps determine what type of compression is being used and hints at the video quality.

💡HDR

HDR stands for High Dynamic Range and refers to video formats that have enhanced contrast and colors. It provides brighter whites and darker blacks. The script discusses how to check if a TV is displaying HDR content by looking for indicators in the picture settings menu. HDR is frequently mentioned as a key format to enable a quality viewing experience.

💡HDMI

HDMI is the interface used to connect devices like Blu-ray players, game consoles, and streaming boxes to a TV. The script implies issues with getting devices to properly communicate resolution, HDR, and other format details over HDMI. HDMI CEC, which allows controlling multiple devices via one remote, is also discussed.

💡streaming

Streaming refers to watching video content delivered over the internet rather than via cable/satellite or disc. The script talks about checking streaming services like Netflix and YouTube to determine the resolution and other technical details of what you're viewing. Ease of accessing content from streaming apps is mentioned as a factor in choosing devices like Apple TV.

💡soundbar

A soundbar is a speaker designed to improve audio quality from a TV. The script critiques soundbars branded with Dolby Atmos, implying the audio quality doesn't live up to the Dolby Atmos standards. This highlights confusion around licensing of the Dolby Atmos name compared to true multichannel Dolby Atmos setups.

💡Apple TV

The Apple TV box is repeatedly recommended in the script as the most reliable single device for getting features to work properly, like Dolby Atmos music. The convenience and integration of the Apple ecosystem is cited as justification for choosing Apple TV over other streaming boxes, Roku, etc.

💡remote

The script examines options for universal remotes that can control multiple devices, questioning if this is still viable in the age of HDMI CEC. Several specific remote models are discussed. Ease of use from consolidated control is weighed against integration issues.

💡home theater

Home theater refers to systems and rooms designed to recreate a cinematic experience at home. The script looks at projectors and other emerging options as potential home theater disruptors but concludes communal viewing is an enduring differentiator.

💡Dolby Atmos

Dolby Atmos is a surround sound technology that enables immersive, multidirectional audio by using overhead speakers. Confusion around Dolby Atmos implementations is a recurring theme. Music mixed in Dolby Atmos is called out as difficult to access across devices compared to Dolby Atmos on movies.

Highlights

There is no button on Sony TVs to check resolution and format like there used to be

You can force YouTube to play certain resolutions and see stats in the nerd screen

LG TVs show the format when you start watching content which is really useful

ATMOS music is hard to get working even though ATMOS is everywhere now for movies

Apple TV is the most consistent device for getting features like ATMOS music working

Apple Vision could offer amazing HDR video but lacks shared experience of home theater

No good universal remotes exist now that Logitech Harmony is gone

HDMI-CEC allows one remote to control multiple devices now

Sales of universal remotes declined due to HDMI-CEC remote integration

Dolby licensing ATMOS brand to tech that doesn't really deliver ATMOS experience

ATMOS badge on TVs with small speakers is disingenuous

Licensing weakens ATMOS brand which should be for real ATMOS experience

Stats for nerds on YouTube provides resolution and codec info

Netflix allows changing default resolution for better quality

ATMOS music availability fragmented across devices despite app support

Transcripts

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On today's episode of You Asked how can you find  out if you're getting 4K or HDR on your TV why is  

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Dolby Atmos music so hard to get are there any  decent universal remotes anymore all of that  

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and more coming right up welcome back everyone I'm  Caleb Denison and this is You Asked the show where  

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I answer questions that you asked in hopes that  I can help you and others who have similar Tech  

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question questions if you've got a question for  me please send it to [email protected]  

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and let's see if your question gets picked to be  answered on the show and let me just emphasize  

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real quick here that your question has its best  shot of getting answered if you send it to that  

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us asked email because my email and DMS are  absolutely overwhelmed and it's hard to filter  

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through those increasingly I'm just relying on  that email box to find questions to answer I love  

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talking with you all on social media when I can  but when it comes to this show when it's time to  

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sit down and find the questions I'm going straight  to that inbox so please use it tell a friend in  

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need and guys thanks for sending the questions  I wish I could answer all of them but we can  

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only fit so many in a show speaking of I'm wasting  valuable time so let's get to it we'll start with  

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one that came in from John Angstrom who John is  this your second time getting a question answered  

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that's like VIP status my dude anyway John writes  just got a Sony X90L and was wondering how to get  

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the TV to show me the resolution and the format of  the input signal HDMI or streaming app is there a  

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button on the remote that will show me that info  or possibly somewhere in the menu I haven't found  

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it yet but it seems like it has to be there  somewhere John you would think that button or  

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menu item exists because those kinds of buttons  and info screens used to be fairly common but to  

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the best of my knowledge it does not anymore at  least not on Sony TVs and honestly anecdotally  

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I feel like most TV manufacturers have stopped  making that kind of information available or if  

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they do it's buried deep in a menu somewhere as  with all things tech though there are sometimes  

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hacks we can use to figure it out or at least give  ourselves some assurances that we're getting the  

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signal that we want one of them involves having  an AV receiver that can read the eded that's short  

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for extended display identification data and  would provide you that info or you could spend  

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thousands on a device like the ones merido makes  for video professionals I'm assuming you're not  

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interested in any of that so for the format SDR,  HDR, HDR10, Dolby Vision, HLG all that stuff the best  

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way to find out what you're getting is to click  this wrench icon on your Sony remote then click  

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picture and sound scroll down to picture and click  that and then look in the upper right if it's HDR  

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it'll say HDR if it's SDR it will say nothing  as for resolution I don't have anything there  

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for you I mean if you're on YouTube you can check  the resolution and even force it to the one that  

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you want by clicking up then going over to the  settings cog icon and selecting the resolution  

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and then there's also the stats for nerd section  which you can access if you scroll down a bit  

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further this will tell you the resolution as  well as the codec in use the color space Etc  

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sometimes apps will give you some control over  the default video resolution you get for instance  

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you can sign into your Netflix account on their  website click account then click on your profile  

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icon then scroll down to playback settings and  choose high as opposed to Auto or some of the  

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others and this makes it such that you may get  some buffering at first but Netflix will play at  

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the highest available quality not a great idea  for those of you out there with bandwidth caps  

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by the way often 1080p HDR can be IND discernible  from 4K HDR when all their factors are equal but  

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I digress each streaming service is going to be  different but this reminds me of something that  

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I really like about LG's TVs they have a Graphic  that pops up when you start watching content that  

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tells you quite clearly what the format is even if  it doesn't tell you what the resolution is anyway  

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I hope that is of some help and I've reached out  to Sony to find out if they'll share any secret  

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tips on how to access this info on their modern  TVs I haven't found it yet I'll pin a comment  

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down below if I do get anything on that Richie  writes I recently bought an encho AVR and some  

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new ceiling speakers and I thought I could be up  and running with Dolby atos music but it was not  

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that easy I thought because my receiver had title  built in it would work easy but no I have a Roku  

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Ultra with the title app and it won't work long  story short I had to buy an Apple TV in order to  

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get Dolby Atmos music to work why is it so hard  to get Dolby Atmos music to work especially since  

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Dolby Atmos support seems to be everywhere I feel  like with phone casting and AirPlay it should be  

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easy what's the deal with Atmos music being so  hard to listen to to Richie what can I say but  

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I know right it's kind of ridiculous Apple Tidal  and Amazon music unlimited all offer Atmos music  

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as a feature you would think that any device with  apps for those Services would offer the full Suite  

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of features but they don't I mean not even close  I can understand if say the title app in an AV  

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receiver is just not powerful enough to be coded  to coordinate with tidle in a way that authorizes  

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and receives the atos music encoded string okay  but when you're talking about Roku and Google  

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tv/ Android TV platforms where the devices that  run those platforms are super powerful I think  

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it should be a no-brainer I think the reason why  say the title app on Roku doesn't work for Atmos  

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music is probably a little different for why the  title app on an Amazon Fire TV Cube might not work  

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I can also see Amazon keeping its best features  for its own Hardware but at the end of the day as  

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consumers we don't really care about that right  guys this is just one more reason that I keep  

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recommending the Apple TV box it is consistently  the one device and platform where the most amount  

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of stuff just works it requires the least amount  of workarounds it's just the safest bet and I  

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think all that counts for a lot in the Consumer  Electronics market look if you can get Atmos  

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music over Wi-Fi using the Sonos app controlling  a Sonos Atmos sound system but you can't get the  

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same sort of experience using say a Samsung Atmos  Soundbar with a Samsung TV without also jumping  

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through a bunch of Hoops well then I understand  why folks might pay more for Sonos I think people  

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are willing to pay a premium for fewer Hoops fewer  questions and fewer frustrations anyway I'm sorry  

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getting Dolby Atmos music is hard and I think it's  dumb especially when Dolby Atmos for movies and  

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TV is at least relatively speaking so incredibly  easy now now I mean it's stupid and I hate it too  

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Chad asks what are the pros and cons to using an  Apple Vision Pro as a home movie theater instead  

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of buying a large project Dolby Surround Sound  Etc is it possible that this is the home theater  

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of the future can this approach be cheaper and  better quality than what the traditional home  

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movie theater offers so Chad I'm glad you asked  because I'm going to do a whole video about this  

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for everyone who doesn't tune into this particular  show I've been thinking about it for a while and  

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I have a lot to say about it but here's the short  version I think the Apple Vision Pro will provide  

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amazing picture quality I mean if the pixel  density is right we're talking about close  

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range video where no light intensity is lost over  long distances perfectly controlled ambient light  

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levels in other words total darkness The Vision  Pro could offer the ultimate HDR video experience  

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and through noise cancelling computational audio  enabled Apple airpods Pro or airpods Max we  

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already know we can get an incredible Dolby atos  uh and spatial audio experience the quality will  

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probably be outstanding here's the thing though  this is the one thing that will prevent the Apple  

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Vision Pro from ever meaningfully compete with  a home entertainment space that little Apple  

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Vision Pro home theater it's a theater for one  you're all by yourself now there's nothing wrong  

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with enjoying content on your own in fact it  sounds awesome in some instances but just like  

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watching a big sporting event with friends or  in a crowd is often more exciting and to some  

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of us more meaningful than watching alone so  too is watching movies and TV there's something  

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awesome about experiencing a movie together with  friends or family speaking personally some of my  

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favorite life memories come from those shared  experiences Apple Vision Pro will never be able  

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to fully replace those shared experiences sure  maybe you can look to your left and right and  

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see avatars or even real life representations of  your friends or family family maybe you'll even  

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be able to hear them if Apple integrates voice  audio among participants I'm betting they'll  

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do exactly that but that kind of experience will  never be the same or as meaningful as observing  

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the same space together so a supplement to a  conventional home entertainment rig for sure  

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a replacement though no shot Ben writes are there  any universal remotes you recommend to control all  

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the devices in a setup such as an AVR TV Blu-ray  player Apple TV I seem to recall them being fairly  

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popular a couple of years ago even being capable  of controlling Smart TVs and smart devices like  

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the Apple TV 4K in your opinion is there any  good way to get around this rigoll of juggling  

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three different remotes just to watch one show  or is that a lost battle so guys let's all just  

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take a moment of silence to mourn the passing  of logitech's Harmony remotes may they rest in

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peace cool that awkward enough I think so yeah so  Ben I am not aware of any decent universal remotes  

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although I did see a new one somewhere that looked  like it came from a startup actually uh let's look  

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into that real quick so yeah I think this is it  it's a Kickstarter project which I mean I'm not  

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endorsing this not until I look deeper into it but  it's by Martin borac and he calls it the yo or the  

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yayo maybe we work on that name anyway nobody has  swooped in to fill the void that Logitech left  

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yes there are some killer remotes available for  Integrated Systems like those made by control 4  

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Savant and Crestron Etc but consumer level remotes  like the Harmony brand no longer exist at least as  

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far as I'm aware I mean wire cutters top pick is  the sofa baton and that's number one out of two  

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remotes on the list guys which I think tells us  plenty so why did Logitech get out of universal  

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remotes I'm going to ask them Logitech actually  has headquarter orders across the river from  

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me uh for their uee division but I suspect it's  because sales declined as HDMI CC implementation  

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even though it is buggy and problematic allows us  to control multiple devices with one remote like I  

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can control a TV Blu-ray player Apple TV and even  some PS5 features with one remote just through  

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HDMI CC which I think pushed universal remotes to  the margins once again us enthusiasts find the big  

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box Consumer Electronic space a very lonely place  indeed which if I had to guess is why Martin Borac  

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is doing his thing by the way Martin please shoot  me an email I'm about to blow your Kickstarter  

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page up also shout out to Garrett Erant who also  emailed about remotes specifically looking at the  

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yo and the sofa baton I see you Garrett in Germany  Hae Martinez Gomez writes I went to a store and  

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the guy at the store told me that the LG C3 has  Dolby Atmos built-in speakers and when I heard it  

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it didn't sound precisely as Dolby Atmos I just  want to know if they're telling me the truth or  

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if there's any TV with Dolby Atmos built-in  speakers because I also had the opportunity  

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to try the A8L and the acoustic surface audio was  amazing but I think that isn't Dolby Atmos either  

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okay for those of you who have heard me say this  many many times already I apologize but hi mate  

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here's the deal Dolby has decided to license  the Dolby Atmos name to technologies that in my  

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opinion do not really deliver what I think most  folks familiar with Dolby Atmos are expecting I  

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love Dolby I love the people there I love Dolby  Atmos I love Dolby Atmos music I have some really  

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awesome things to say about Dolby Flex connect in  a video that's coming out this week much love to  

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Dolby goes out from Caleb Denison here but and I  understand this may be a smart business decision  

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but I hate hate the most diabolical haters this  side of the Mississippi hate that Dolby Atmos as  

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a technology and brand has been so watered down to  the point that a TV with some tiny dinky speakers  

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that don't really deliver anything remotely close  to highquality sound is getting the Dolby Atmos  

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badge I mean call it Dolby audio Dolby is still  a flex in the audio world you can convey This TV  

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has better than average sound quality by saying  it has do Doby onboard sound you don't have to  

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use Dolby Atmos for that but yeah if it were  up to me and Dolby is probably just fine with  

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it not being up to me I would not slap the Dolby  Atmos badge on any TV outside of just advertising  

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the fact that it supports Dolby Atmos saying the  speakers built into any TV deliver a meaningful  

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Dolby Atmos experience is I think disingenuous  and weakens the brand and with that soapbox  

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moment we have reached the conclusion to another  episode of you asked thanks so much for watching  

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everyone I love your questions keep them coming  drop me a comment down below would you I'll see  

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you there slap this video with a like subscribe  and share if you want to see more I'll see you  

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on the next one and until then here are two other  videos I think you might like any TV with Dolby  

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at most built-in speakers because wow I tried to  hold that back but I could not anyway where was I