PM Alexander Stubb, Hiroshi Mikitani and PM Taavi Roivas at Slush 2014

Summary

このスクリプトは、フィンランド、エストニア、そして日本の起業家精神と革新について語るパネル討論を要約しています。各国の首相は、起業環境の変化、技術革新の重要性、そして国際化の取り組みを共有しました。特に、日本では楽天の創業者が英語を社内公用語に変更することで、グローバル人材の採用や競合分析の視野を広げた経験を紹介しました。また、エストニアのデジタルサービスやフィンランドのデータハブの構想が議論の的となり、これらの小国が持つ国際協力の可能性と起業の未来についても触れられています。

Takeaways

• 🇫🇮 スウェーデンのスタートアップシーンは過去12ヶ月で大きく進展しており、特にゲーム、健康、森業、クリーンテック、バイオエネルギーなどの分野で多くの中小企業が成功を収めています。
• 🌟 エントレpreneurshipの文化はフィンランドにおいて変化しており、成功や失敗を許容する新たな価値観が形成されています。
• 📈 エストニアのスタートアップシーンは急成長しており、多くの新しい企業が登場し、そのうちにはすでに数十億ユーロの価値を持つ企業もいます。
• 🌐 エストニアはデジタルサービスの分野で非常に進歩しており、他の国にそのモデルを広めることで国際的なリーダーシップを示しています。
• 📝 ラクテンの設立は日本の経済が低迷していた時期であり、しかし創業者は日本の経済と産業の強みに深く信じ、新しいビジネスモデルを創造しました。
• 💡 創業は異なった視点からの洞察を必要とし、他の企業を単純にコピーするのではなく、独自のビジネスモデルを創造することが重要です。
• 🌱 ジャップ・コリンスの「豪勢の落ちぶれ」の5段階理論は、企業や国が直面する問題を早期に認識し、基本に戻り再生することができれば回復が可能であることを示しています。
• 🏛 エストニアのe-Residencyプログラムは、国境を越えたビジネスと協力のための新しい可能性を提供しており、デジタル識別技術を活用しています。
• 🌐 フィンランドは国際的な姿勢を持ち、多言語化とオープンな経済を通じて、創新と国際化を促進しています。
• 🗣️ ラクテンは英語を社内公用語に変更し、グローバルなビジネスモデルを構築し、多様性とイノベーションを促進しています。
• 🚀 各国の成長と繁栄を促進するため、他の国から学ぶことの重要性があり、特にデジタル技術や教育、ビジネス環境におけるイノベーションに着目しています。

Q & A

質問1: 開催者がパネルディスカッションで参加者の名前をファーストネームで呼ぶ理由は何ですか？

回答1: 参加者が複数の首相であり、「首相」と呼ぶだけでは誰を指しているかわからないためです。

質問2: フィンランドの起業家精神の変化について、スラッシュ2013と2014の違いは何ですか？

回答2: アレックス首相によると、フィンランドでは成功も失敗も許容される新しい起業家精神が浸透し、中小企業が増え、起業の雰囲気が良くなってきたとのことです。

質問3: エストニアの起業家精神の発展について、ターヴィ首相はどのように説明していますか？

回答3: ターヴィ首相は、エストニアでは多くの新興企業が生まれ、特にスカイプの成功が他の企業にも影響を与え、起業家精神が高まっていると述べています。

質問4: 日本における起業家精神の変化について、ミッキーさんはどのように説明していますか？

回答4: ミッキーさんは、日本では若者が起業に挑戦するようになり、日本ブランドを革新的なものとして促進しようとしていると述べています。

質問5: 楽天の設立時の状況と現在の起業環境の違いについて、ミッキーさんはどのように説明していますか？

回答5: ミッキーさんは、楽天を資金調達なしで設立し、オリジナルのビジネスモデルを追求した経験から、現在の起業家にも独自のコンセプトを持つことの重要性を強調しています。

質問6: ジム・コリンズの企業の発展段階について、アレックス首相はどのように説明していますか？

回答6: アレックス首相は、企業が成功から衰退する5つの段階を説明し、問題を早期に認識し、冷静に対処することが重要だと述べています。

質問7: エストニアのe-レジデンシーについて、ターヴィ首相はどのように説明していますか？

回答7: ターヴィ首相は、エストニアのe-レジデンシーは他国からも利用可能であり、セキュアなIDカードを使ってビジネスやデジタル署名ができると説明しています。

質問8: フィンランドのデジタル化への取り組みについて、アレックス首相はどのように説明していますか？

回答8: アレックス首相は、フィンランドがICTプラットフォームを構築し、国際的なデータハブを目指していることを説明しています。

質問9: ラクテンの英語化について、ミッキーさんはどのように説明していますか？

回答9: ミッキーさんは、会社の内部コミュニケーションを英語に変更することで、国際的な競争力を高め、優秀な人材を世界中から採用できるようになったと述べています。

質問10: 日本の大学入試の英語試験の改革について、ミッキーさんはどのように説明していますか？

回答10: ミッキーさんは、日本の大学入試の英語試験が2021年から実用的な内容に変更されることを説明し、これはグローバル化の一環であると述べています。

Outlines

00:00

👥 パネルディスカッションの紹介

パネルディスカッションの冒頭で、司会者が参加者に対して「首相」という呼称を用いる状況を説明し、名前で呼び合うことを決定。アレックス、ダヴィ、ミッキーの紹介から始まり、前年度の起業家精神の変化について議論を展開。フィンランドのスタートアップシーンの進展と、企業成功の事例を紹介。

05:01

🚀 エストニアと日本の起業家精神

エストニアのタヴィがエストニアとフィンランドのスタートアップシーンの進展について述べ、特にエストニアの企業が急成長していることを強調。日本のミッキーは、日本の革新と若者の起業意欲を高めるための取り組みについて語り、株式市場の上昇や政府の取り組みについても触れる。

10:03

🌍 グローバル市場への挑戦

ミッキーが楽天の創業当時の経験を振り返り、日本経済と社会の強さについて述べる。独自のビジネスモデルの開発と、ベンチャーキャピタルを利用しない成長戦略について強調。アレックスは企業の成長過程と失敗の段階についての研究を引用し、自己批判の重要性を説く。

15:07

📈 デジタルサービスと国際化

エストニアのデジタルサービスの成功事例と、他国への影響について議論。電子政府の取り組みや、フィンランドとの協力について触れる。フィンランドのアレックスもデータハブとしての国際化の取り組みについて述べ、エストニアと共に先進的なデジタルサービスを提供する計画を示す。

20:11

🌐 英語化と国際化の推進

ミッキーが楽天での英語化の取り組みについて説明し、これが社内外の競争力を高める効果について述べる。フィンランドとエストニアの国際化の進展についても議論し、言語がビジネスの成長に与える影響について考察。

🔧 政策提案と未来への展望

パネルディスカッションの最後に、各国の政策提案について議論。フィンランドのアレックスはエストニアの電子政府の取り組みを採用したいと述べ、タヴィは日本とフィンランドの革新の核心がしっかりしていると評価。ミッキーは日本の無線インフラの改善を提案し、各国が互いに学び合う必要性を強調。

Keywords

💡起業家精神

起業家精神は、新しいビジネスを始める意欲や能力を指します。動画では、フィンランドやエストニア、日本における起業家精神の重要性と、その促進が国の経済成長にどのように寄与しているかが強調されています。特に、フィンランドの変化やエストニアのスタートアップシーンの成長が具体例として挙げられています。

💡スタートアップ

スタートアップは、新しいビジネスを始める小規模な企業を指します。動画では、フィンランド、エストニア、日本のスタートアップシーンの現状と課題が議論されています。例えば、エストニアの企業がどのように成長し、国際的な成功を収めているかが具体例として示されています。

💡イノベーション

イノベーションは、新しいアイデアや技術の導入を指します。動画では、各国がどのようにイノベーションを促進し、それが経済成長にどのように寄与しているかが議論されています。例えば、日本の企業が新しいビジネスモデルを導入し、世界市場で競争力を高めていることが強調されています。

💡デジタルサービス

デジタルサービスは、インターネットを通じて提供されるサービスを指します。エストニアの電子居住制度やフィンランドのデジタルガバナンスなど、各国のデジタルサービスの取り組みが紹介されています。これにより、国際的なビジネスが促進され、効率的な行政サービスが提供されています。

💡グローバル化

グローバル化は、企業や経済が国境を越えて活動することを指します。動画では、日本の企業がどのようにしてグローバル化を進めているかが議論されています。例えば、楽天が社内コミュニケーション言語を英語に変更し、国際的な人材を採用することでグローバル競争力を高めていることが紹介されています。

💡企業文化

企業文化は、企業内で共有される価値観や行動様式を指します。動画では、各国の企業文化の違いが議論されています。例えば、日本の企業が持つチーム志向や忍耐強さが、長期的な成功を支えていることが強調されています。

💡政府の役割

政府の役割は、経済や社会の発展を促進するための政策や規制を指します。動画では、フィンランドやエストニアの政府がどのようにしてスタートアップやイノベーションを支援しているかが議論されています。具体例として、エストニアの電子居住制度が挙げられています。

💡教育

教育は、個人や社会が必要とする知識やスキルを提供する過程を指します。動画では、プログラミング教育の重要性が強調されています。フィンランドの教育システムにおいて、子供たちがプログラミングを学ぶ必要性が議論されています。

💡国際協力

国際協力は、異なる国々が共通の目標を達成するために協力することを指します。動画では、フィンランドとエストニアがデジタルサービスの分野で協力し合っている例が挙げられています。これにより、両国の経済発展が促進されています。

💡デジタルガバナンス

デジタルガバナンスは、デジタル技術を活用して政府や企業の運営を行うことを指します。エストニアの政府が紙を使わずに電子的に運営している例や、フィンランドがデータハブを目指していることが紹介されています。これにより、行政の効率化と透明性が向上しています。

Highlights

芬兰和爱沙尼亚的创业环境在过去12个月里发生了显著变化，涌现出许多中小型企业。

Supercell等公司的成功成为芬兰创业精神的象征。

爱沙尼亚的创业场景发展迅速，许多新兴公司在过去一年中成立。

Transferwise等公司从小型创业公司成长为价值数亿欧元的中型公司。

日本在鼓励创新、变革和放松管制方面取得了显著进步。

乐天市场的创立是在经济衰退期间，展示了日本的团队精神和创新能力。

日本政府正在推动将英语作为工作语言，以促进全球化和创新。

爱沙尼亚推出了电子居民计划，允许远程开设银行账户和公司。

芬兰和爱沙尼亚在数字化公共服务方面处于世界领先地位。

芬兰的目标是成为世界领先的创业场景，并建立数据枢纽。

国际视野和语言能力对于小国家的繁荣至关重要。

软银对Supercell的投资反映了日本公司对国际创新的关注。

Jim Collins关于公司发展的五个阶段的理论为创业者提供了宝贵的指导。

芬兰正在努力吸引更多的国际人才，并提高国民的英语能力。

爱沙尼亚的电子治理模式被认为是其他国家学习的榜样。

快速且价格合理的无线网络连接是推动创新和经济增长的关键。

各国之间的政策借鉴和学习可以促进共同的繁荣和发展。

Transcripts

very good to see you all here today and

it's not often that you host a panel

where you can say Prime Minister and not

know which guest that you're actually

referring to so for this panel will be

using first names so it's very good to

see Alex Davi and Mickey

I'd like to start out with a question

for the home team last year your

predecessor yoky Catalan he said right

now we have no options but to encourage

entrepreneurship you've always been a

strong advocate of entrepreneurship but

as you alluded to in your opening speech

it's been a tough last 12 months looking

at slush 2013 and slush 2014 how have

you seen the differences why I think we

actually have a really good buzz I mean

the startup sound I was one of the key

components of a startup scene I think

there's been a tremendous change in

attitude in Finland it used to be sort

of not okay to succeed and not okay to

fail but with a new sense of

entrepreneurship

I think we're changing that around quite

well so we have a whole bunch of smaller

and midsize companies sort of popping up

and I think being quite successful I

think supercell is one example there's a

lot of stuff going on in the health

sector there's a lot of stuff actually

going on the forest sector as well in

clean tech bioenergy and elsewhere so I

think we're moving in a better direction

but it's like with anything you have to

be a little bit patient you have to wait

a little bit and then get things going

but I think the scene is much better

than what it was 12 months ago and I I

guess swash is a symbol of it as well

I'd like to expand this question out

first to citavi and then to Mickey to

also ask have you seen the last 12

months in estonia taavi has it presented

new challenges for you or is it two

shorter time spell to really say well

first of all let me just say that what a

crowd I have never felt so much as a

rockstar but you guys are the rock stars

here of course so Europe really

inspiring crowd and and

wonderful to be here well I'm usually

more into telling what the next 12

months are like but looking just lightly

back

I think the startup scene in both

Finland and Estonia has developed

dramatically and we have here a couple

of hundred Estonian companies half of

them were not existent one year ago and

they are really inspiring crowd I met

many of them early in the morning the

breakfast session and I really believe

that amongst them there are next next

big things as well but also some of our

companies have developed just like the

Finnish example is also in Australia

some of the companies have developed

from small startups to to mid-sized

startups keeping growing but are already

worth hundreds of millions euros which

is a big thing

transferwise crap things that are really

have gone global already and I think

during the last 12 months the positive

energy of Skype that has been

historically are so what so far our most

successful startup this positive energy

has gone to other companies and and it's

really you can really feel that it's

there and of course I'm proud to say

that this area during the last 12 months

has achieved the world record of having

most startups per capita so this is a

positive thing and yeah well actually we

also have another world record this is

having the most supermodels per capita

as well so go figure if they are related

something straight until you make it

yeah so since Prime Minister took his

position I have been serving as his one

of his advisory board which he called a

competitiveness council and Japan has

dramatically changed

he has been encouraging more innovation

more change more deregulation and of

course the stock market went up like 30

percent I think that we are seeing more

more younger people challenging to start

a new company as one of the leader

in entrepreneur community I'm trying to

encourage for younger people to become

more more challenging so I think it's we

are seeing the new Japan coming up which

man has been very famous for the the

quality of the product and quality of

manufacturing and but we have many many

innovations iPS cells DVD many many

things are being invented in Japan but I

think they are not very good at

marketing in a sense so I think what I'm

trying to encourage the Erinyes

government is to me to the promote Japan

brand as an innovative brand right now

I'd like to follow up on that a little

bit as well to to talk about it's

commonly referred to that Japan lost two

decades and yet in the middle of those

two decades you started Rakuten which I

believe means optimism which is a great

name for a company at that particular

time would you be able to tell us a

little bit about what it was like to

start Rakuten during that time and also

maybe how your experiences as an

entrepreneur back then would contrast

with what you are trying to set up for

entrepreneurs today I am a very strong

believer of the strengths of Japanese

economy Japanese industry and Japanese

society I think we are very very team

oriented extremely innovative and very

very patient sometimes too patient yeah

so Japanese people do not complain even

we are under the economic recession for

a very long time but I have been very

optimistic about the future of each fan

and because again we are very very team

oriented and patient and napkin is all

about you know creating new business

model we invented a marketplace model we

were the first company to do so we

invented the combining ecommerce media

and online finance and we have been

pursued

different route than you know for

example Google or Facebook or abhava we

have been trying to create come up with

a very very unique approach and how it's

the market that you find it what were

the struggles that you initially had

trying to set up back in 1997 what was

it that you would like any entrepreneur

today to not have to go through that you

went through well I think

entrepreneurship is all about seeing

through the corner right you need to see

things differently

you don't want to just follow your

producers you don't want to follow the

big guys you need to do some things

differently I started that thing with

two people never funded by any VC so the

biggest difference between acting

another Internet company is I still own

like over 45% of the company and I never

found them by VC try to grow organically

so that has been our strengths and I

would encourage younger people to not to

just recopy other company but come up is

a different concept different business

model based on your own intuition right

and inside yeah I mean I I just like to

jump on to that I mean there are a lot

of people out in the crowd there who

have aspiring startups you know they're

kicking off something big and I just

read a really interesting piece by Jim

Collins you know he's written I think

six books on on leadership and he talks

a lot about the way in which companies

develop and he had one of these texts

which was how the mighty fall and his

thesis was that basically what happens

is you go through five stages you know

stage number one is hubris or success

you know just keep on growing and

everything becomes fantastic and nothing

can go wrong

then stage number two is when you don't

think about what you're actually doing

but you just go for this innate growth

you keep on building up you don't have a

strategy anymore you sort of go in every

direction then phase number three is

when you sort of see that things are

beginning to go sour but you are in a

denial so you're sort of saying nah no

problems for me what sir this by the way

pertains to countries as well as

companies so goes for hand in hand then

stage number four is what he calls a

grasp of salvation or Hail Mary when you

sort of try to do everything to to

basically save the company you probably

have a lot of companies in mind already

at this stage and then stage number five

if you don't correct things is basically

death or irrelevance now the good news I

think with Jim Collins analysis is

twofold number one if you recognize your

problems as a company or a country at an

early enough stage you can turn things

around and number two is that if you

reach stage number four where is sort of

Hail Mary grasping for salvation what

you need to do is to be cool calm and

collected analyze go back to your basics

and then renew yourselves so a lot of

for a lot of the startups over here

you know whenever you are growing

whenever you're working don't forget the

big picture

don't forget your values when you're

working on things you really have to be

self-critical throughout the process and

that's when you emerge from a start-up

to a successful company I think it's

it's certainly something that we've seen

from Estonia which I've heard described

as a startup country it's received a

huge amount of acclaim I think in recent

times for its innovation for its broad

ways of thinking and just a couple of

weeks ago before slush today one of the

things that we we saw coming out of

Estonia was what's been dubbed a

residency this idea that you you don't

need to live in a country to start a

bank account to start a company can you

tell us a little bit about the thinking

behind this and your aims and what you'd

like to achieve well I guess we do some

things a start-up way I mean we are

aiming for fast development both

economically and other aspects of the

society and this means also that we of

course have to learn from others but we

have to we need to have this courage to

do things differently to

do things even better and this sometimes

means that other things that we are

slightly crazy for doing that what we do

we have been successful in doing that so

far and and I think this ear esident see

concept could be very well the next

success story because some say that in

Estonia we do have the best digital

eServices for public sector and private

sector for that matter and this actually

is based on something that was founded

15 years ago a long time ago so 90s and

this was digital secure identification

for each and every Estonian and and once

we have had that on at place we have

been able to build on that all kinds of

services be tax authority be health

services be voting whatever everything

can be built on and private services as

well so once we have that in place there

is endless of possibilities and now our

plan is to of course encourage other

countries to have similar solutions as

well I'm proud to say that Finland and

Estonia will probably be the first two

countries in the world that offer

cross-border this kind of services as

well but before all the countries catch

up we are offering our own EU residency

for those who live in Japan for example

live far from Estonia geographically but

they can use this ID card and they can

login to the Australian system securely

and q can do any transactions can can

have their digital signature which is

legally equal to the ordinary signature

so this gives endless possibilities for

business and and cooperation Estonians

are pioneers on this and I remember my

first visit in this capacity to dothis

office the first thing he shows is that

he's got no paper in his office then we

go to their government meeting room

there's no paper either and the next

thing he does this takes out his pad and

shows me his health records which were

good you know no problem interested in

the rest of it so what do we do I mean

we try to tap into Estonia the

X Road we try to work together because

they've done a lot of good work in this

field we're also building a big ICT

platform which basically puts in one

homepage everything about you your

driver's license magistrate's ID health

insurance and the rest of it does this

sort of push paper away no of course you

can still use it but if you can make

this in a secure way it's good does it

push you in the direction of something

like Annie residency scheme or nice one

which would at some stage but you know

unfortunately there's a sense of

conservativism as well people are afraid

of your residency and what it means

people have been afraid of e-voting

which i think is rather crazy because I

mean if you want people to vote I think

that's a good way of doing it but the

two things that we're trying to do in

Finland right now and and this is sort

of serious stuff you have to have a big

vision number one we want to be the

number one startup scene in the world

and I know it sounds crazy small country

and the rest of it but a little bit

across the bay there in autonomy gala

near me we're trying to create basically

space for a lot of startups and and you

you know what it is all about it's about

creating a bus it's about creating an

incentive for people to come making it

as easy as possible the number two is we

trying to become the data hub of this

part of the world we're just getting the

cable coming through the Baltic Sea from

Germany and then we're trying to work it

up north as well because of course

physically the shortest route to Asia is

through Finland and this is a way in

which we're trying to renew ourselves in

one way or another and Estonia of course

is an excellent partner in all of this

well I think that that both Estonia and

Finland have have long been commended

for a very international attitude

whether that's by design or or by the

fact that there's smaller populations so

companies immediately think

international from day one but it is

something that the driven the thought

processes I think of a lot of larger

companies and particularly you've seen

this in Japan with you Mickey I know

that we've seen soft Bank recently

invest in supercell and yourself of

course

you brought this this process of I

believe

you call it English noise a ssin to

Rakuten this idea of changing the

international language of the company

can you tell us a little bit about the

the thinking behind that and also

whether you think it's it's

representative of a wider international

perspective from from Japanese companies

right so Japanese countries companies

has been very successful by exporting

their you know very high-quality product

whether it's automobile or the you know

drink machines or the computers or

materials the but so it was more trade

driven the business model for rafting is

all about service so in order to we

globalize our service our organization

need to become global based on that

concept I have been thinking about how

we can we globalize our company and I've

once they came up with the idea maybe we

should change our internal communication

language from Japanese to English nobody

has done this in the in the past and

many people really criticized me for

doing that some of the really big

company CEOs call me crazy but we

decided to do so four years ago since

then of show language abduct and became

English so we do even among Japanese we

do meetings in English and that enable

us basically two things it opened eye of

the Japanese employees now they are

benchmarking our global competitors and

global industrial trends the second

enable us to hire best and brightest

from all over the world 80% of the

engineers we are hiring in Japan or non

Japanese somehow come from Finland many

from

in Indian countries in Europe China

India and that diversity is really

helping us to become more innovative so

now English in ization is not just well

part of what we do is a kind of a core

of our growth I really like that

approach and the funny thing is it

actually culturally there's someone from

Japan someone from Estonia someone from

Finland funny enough we're actually very

similar countries if you look at our

architecture if you look at our

mentality believe it or not we are

actually quite shy and we open up it

takes a little bit of one but at the

same time there's a lot of innovation

going on with languages and and

otherwise and what we're trying to do in

Finland is to become more more

international that you refer to

by the way Darvey rooibos is the only

non Finnish Prime Minister in the world

who speaks Finnish I think that's pretty

impressive huh but in any case I mean in

in the 19th in 1990 we had 40,000 known

finished nationals internationals here

in 2000 that doubled to 80,000 2010

160,000 2020 it'll be about 320,000 and

230

it'll be about half a million so there

will be approximately 10% of our

population and we believe in

internationalization yes we have a

strong Finnish culture identity but with

languages were able to expand and by

creating opportunities actually like

this slush we can bring it in as much

innovation and internationals as

possible and language just like Nicky

said is a great strength in this because

most Finn's actually speak English but

very very painful process we're not

talking about you know very English nice

European country but we are talking

Japan we of course the avenues can read

and write English but they are very shy

and they don't want to speak in English

and they feel that they kind of feel

embarrassed by making mistakes so I had

to encourage 10,000 people suddenly to

speak in English in front of many many

people and it was extremists

Christel process and we have but after

four years I think finally we are even

influencing the immigration program of

Japan now Japanese advise Prime Minister

changed the entrance exam of the

university from grammar and translated

oriented English to practically short

end the Japanese government is gonna do

it in 2021 so this is not just about

rocket and this is about globalizing of

Japanese industries I'd like that all

the people here are they they are not

typically shy as tony ins typically shia

finns typically shy japanese we see

people with shiny eyes looking for

opportunities interacting with each

other so i think this is the way to go

actually and and i just like like you

have both said I very much believe in in

openness as a small countries what the

only potential source for prosperity is

trading with each other is being open to

each other to be more diverse and tech

related companies have the greatest

possibilities to come global just like

that they are the fastest developers in

in many aspects so that's why probably

our very open economies are very open to

this startup scenes as well well I know

that we're running very short on time

now but there's there's one quick

question I'd like to ask all three of

you and you can answer it in a serious

or a jovial fashion but having heard

about all this sort of international

innovation this this government

innovation if you for your own countries

could take up one policy from another

country it could be from somebody on

this panel it could be from any country

in the world what would you like to be

able to pick up and drop into your own

politics or your your own policy that

you think could could be a great driver

for the future growth and prosperity of

your countries and I'll start with Alex

sure I'll say it in a in a serious

manner I'd like to adopt what Estonian

Estonia has done in terms of governance

I think we are a year or two behind

Estonia in this front and we really need

to do

linked to that which is probably not

something that I would I think our kids

need to learn coding at school I mean

I'm completely hopeless

encoding I don't understand I just see

the C in a screen and that's it

but coding is one I mean II governance

from Estonia is another one that I'd

like to adapt

Taavi I think both in Finland and Japan

the core of innovation is very much in

place Japan was a very very innovative

country already decades ago Finland has

shown that they can very quickly come

from a Nokia country to Angry Birds and

type of country which means that they

are ready for change they are having

this innovation in place so the core

things I think are very well in place

and we still have a lot to to learn from

that but of course we we can learn from

each other and we should and finally to

Mickey

there are so many things we need to do

but if I need to pick one probably a

very very cheap and fast wireless

connection either it's free Wi-Fi or 4G

or 5g connection it's too expensive in

Japan average Japanese people need to

spend over 50 60 euros per month and

need to commit a very hard button and

then we need to make it cheap and fast

well we're over all time so thank you

everybody

Prime Minister's and Mickey