How HARD Should You Train To Build Muscle?

Jeff Nippard
3 Oct 202017:45

Summary

TLDRDieses Video befasst sich mit einem der wichtigsten Fragen im Fitnessbereich: Wie hart sollten wir trainieren? Experten wie Dr. Mike Isratel, IFBB Pro John Meadows, Dr. Steffy Cohen und Dr. Eric Helms teilen ihre Ansichten dazu, wie hart man trainieren sollte, um Muskelwachstum zu fördern. Sie betonen die Bedeutung der individuellen Anpassung, des Trainingsphasen und der richtigen Balance zwischen Intensität und Erholung. Die Erkenntnisse aus der Wissenschaft und der Praxis zeigen, dass ein effektives Training sowohl eine angemessene Intensität als auch eine gezielte Erholung beinhaltet, um die Muskeln optimal anregen zu können.

Takeaways

  • 🏋️‍♂️ Die Härte der Trainingseinheiten hängt von der individuellen Belastbarkeit und dem aktuellen Trainingszyklus ab.
  • 📈 Die empfundene Anstrengung (Rating of Perceived Exertion, RPE) und die übrigen Wiederholungen (Reps in Reserve, RIR) sind wichtige Maße für die Trainingshärte.
  • 🔧 Am Anfang eines Mesocycles sollte man weniger hart trainieren und mit niedrigeren Volumen beginnen, während am Ende des Zyklus eine höhere Intensität und größere Volumen angestrebt werden sollten.
  • 💡 Ein kleiner Pump-Effekt und geringe bis mäßige Muskelschmerzen können auf eine stimulierende Belastung hinweisen.
  • 🔝 Während des Trainings sollte die Last und die Anzahl der Wiederholungen kontinuierlich erhöht werden, um die Muskelhypertrophie zu fördern.
  • 🚫 Anfänger sollten vermeiden, früh im Trainingszyklus Sets bis zur Erschöpfung durchzuführen, um die Belastung für zukünftige Workouts nicht zu erhöhen.
  • 🌟 Für Fortgeschrittene kann die Verwendung von intensiven Trainingstechniken wie Cluster- und Drop-Sets hilfreich sein, um Trainingsplateaus zu überwinden.
  • 🤔 Die Bedeutung von Übungsauswahl und Reihenfolge ändert sich mit dem Trainingsfortschritt, wobei Fortgeschrittene größere Freiheiten bei der Übungswahl haben.
  • 🏆 Um herauszufinden, wie stark oder groß man werden kann, ist es notwendig, seine Grenzen herauszufordern und intensive Trainingsphasen einzuplanen.
  • 🧠 Die individuelle Anpassung der Trainingsbelastung ist entscheidend, um eine effektive Stimulation zu erreichen, während gleichzeitig die Erholung für die nächsten Workouts gewährleistet ist.
  • 🧐 Die Wissenschaft und die Erfahrung erfolgreicher Athleten, Coaches und Wissenschaftler sollten kombiniert werden, um das beste Trainingsergebnis zu erzielen.

Q & A

  • Was bedeutet RPE und wie wird es verwendet?

    -RPE steht für Rating of Perceived Exertion und bewertet, wie anstrengend ein Satz auf einer Skala von 1 bis 10 war. Ein RPE von 10 bedeutet, dass man keine weiteren Wiederholungen mehr hätte schaffen können, während ein RPE von 9 bedeutet, dass man noch eine weitere Wiederholung hätte schaffen können.

  • Was ist der Unterschied zwischen RPE und RIR?

    -RIR steht für Reps in Reserve und ist das Gegenteil von RPE. Ein RIR von 0 bedeutet, dass man keine weiteren Wiederholungen mehr hätte schaffen können, was einem RPE von 10 entspricht. Ein RIR von 1 bedeutet, dass man noch eine weitere Wiederholung hätte schaffen können, was einem RPE von 9 entspricht.

  • Warum sollte man laut Dr. Mike Israetel nicht immer so hart wie möglich trainieren?

    -Dr. Mike Israetel argumentiert, dass man nicht immer so hart wie möglich trainieren sollte, da die Ermüdung durch zu hartes Training zukünftige Trainingseinheiten negativ beeinflussen kann. Es ist wichtig, hart genug zu trainieren, um Fortschritte zu machen, aber nicht so hart, dass die nächste Trainingseinheit darunter leidet.

  • Wie sollte man laut Dr. Mike Israetel das Training innerhalb eines Mesocycles anpassen?

    -Zu Beginn eines vier- bis achtwöchigen Trainingsprogramms sollte man weniger intensiv und mit geringeren Volumina trainieren. Gegen Ende des Mesocycles sollte man härter und mit höherem Volumen trainieren. Man startet mit etwa drei Wiederholungen in Reserve (RIR) und erhöht die Last und/oder die Wiederholungen jede Woche, um die RIR zu reduzieren.

  • Was ist das Hauptargument von Dr. Mike Israetel gegen das Training bis zum Muskelversagen in den ersten Wochen eines Programms?

    -Dr. Mike Israetel betont, dass in den ersten Wochen eines Programms das Muskelversagen nicht notwendig ist, da die Neuheit des Trainings ausreicht, um Wachstum zu stimulieren. Das Training bis zum Versagen sollte für die letzten Wochen aufgespart werden, wenn die Trainingsreize weniger neu sind.

  • Was sagt John Meadows über die Bedeutung der Trainingsintensität für Anfänger und Fortgeschrittene?

    -John Meadows erklärt, dass Anfänger nicht bis zum Muskelversagen trainieren oder ein hohes Volumen benötigen, um Fortschritte zu machen. Für Fortgeschrittene ist es jedoch wichtig, die Intensität zu erhöhen und gelegentlich Techniken wie Cluster-Sets oder Drop-Sets zu verwenden, um Plateaus zu überwinden und das Muskelwachstum zu fördern.

  • Wie betont John Meadows die Rolle der richtigen Form im Training?

    -John Meadows betont, dass die richtige Form entscheidend ist, selbst für fortgeschrittene Athleten. Es ist wichtig, kontinuierlich an der Form zu arbeiten und sicherzustellen, dass die Intensität des Trainings nicht auf Kosten einer übermäßigen Technikverschlechterung geht.

  • Welche Perspektive bietet Dr. Steffy Cohen auf das Training für Spitzenleistungen?

    -Dr. Steffy Cohen hebt hervor, dass Spitzenleistungen durch obsessive und intensive Arbeit erreicht werden. Sie betont, dass man sich ständig selbst herausfordern und an seine Grenzen gehen muss, um große Erfolge zu erzielen. Training bis zum Muskelversagen ist ein zentraler Aspekt ihres Programms.

  • Welche Rolle spielt laut Dr. Eric Helms die Trainingsintensität für das Muskelwachstum?

    -Dr. Eric Helms erklärt, dass eine hohe Trainingsintensität notwendig ist, um effektiv Muskelwachstum zu stimulieren. Man sollte sich bei den Arbeitssätzen meist in einem RPE-Bereich von 6 bis 10 bewegen, um mechanische Spannung zu erzeugen, die für das Wachstum erforderlich ist.

  • Wie fasst Greg Knuckles die optimale Trainingsintensität und das Trainingsvolumen zusammen?

    -Greg Knuckles betont, dass die optimale Trainingsintensität und das Trainingsvolumen vom individuellen Athleten, der Übung und den Zielen abhängen. Für Hypertrophie sollte man in der Regel nahe am Muskelversagen trainieren. Für Krafttraining gibt es sowohl Nutzen aus Sätzen nahe am Versagen als auch aus Sätzen mit mehreren Wiederholungen in Reserve, um technische Fertigkeiten zu üben.

Outlines

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🏋️‍♂️ Grundprinzipien des Trainingsintensitätsmanagements

Dieses Video befasst sich mit der wichtigen Frage der Fitness-Trainingshärte. Experte Mike erklärt, dass Trainingsintensität variiert und von der aktuellen Trainingsphase abhängt. Am Anfang eines Mesocycles sollte man weniger hart trainieren, während am Ende erhöhte Härte und Volumen angestrebt werden. RPE (Rating of Perceived Exertion) und RIR (Reps in Reserve) sind entscheidende Maßstäbe für die Intensität. Mike betont, dass man trainieren sollte, um Gewinne zu erzielen, ohne die nächste Trainingseinheit zu beeinträchtigen. Er empfiehlt, mit einer Last zu beginnen, die etwa drei Reservereps zulässt und diese Woche für Woche zu erhöhen, während man die RAR (Reps and Reserve) um etwa eins verringert, um optimale Anpassungen zu fördern.

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🏅 Fortgeschrittene Trainingsstrategien für IFBB Pro John Meadows

John Meadows, IFBB Pro, betont, dass die Trainingshärte hauptsächlich von dem Fortschrittsstadium des Trainiers abhängt. Für Anfänger reicht es oft, die richtige Form zu erlernen und kleine Stärkezuwächse zu erzielen. Bei Fortgeschrittenen wird die Intensität erhöht, um Platten zu überwinden. Er empfiehlt, Cluster- und Drop-Sets, um die Muskeln zu herausfordern. John betont auch die Bedeutung der korrekten Form und warnt davor, durch zu hohe Intensität zu trainieren, was zu einer Technikzerrüttung führen kann.

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💪 Trainingsintensität und individuelle Anpassung nach Steffy Cohen

Steffy Cohen, 25-malige Weltrekordhalterin im Powerlifting, betont die individuelle Anpassung und die Notwendigkeit, Grenzen zu überschreiten, um die bestmögliche Leistung zu erzielen. Sie glaubt, dass viele Menschen nicht hart genug trainieren und sich oft in einer '50/50 Zone' befinden, in der sie nicht ausreichend anstrengen und nicht richtig ausruhen. Steffy plädiert für harte Trainingsphasen, in denen man fast jedes Training nahe am Erschöpfungsort trainiert, um das Nervensystem und den Körper an die Anforderungen von schweren Lasten zu gewöhnen. Sie betont auch die Rolle von Weisheit aus erfolgreichen Athleten, Trainern und wissenschaftlicher Literatur für effektives Training.

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📊 Wissenschaftliche Perspektiven auf Trainingsintensität nach Dr. Eric Helms

Dr. Eric Helms, der seine Doktorarbeit über dieses Thema geschrieben hat, vertritt die Ansicht, dass für Muskelhypertrophie (Wachstum) eine RPE von sechs oder höher notwendig ist, um effektiv zu wachsen. Mechanorezeptoren in den Muskeln müssen Spannung spüren, um das Wachstum durch Widerstandstraining zu initiieren. Helms empfiehlt, je nach Ziel, zwischen 5-10 RPE für Work-Sets zu wählen, meistens etwa 7-9. Er diskutiert auch, ob man Reservereps im Tank lassen sollte, um mehr Volumen zu akkumulieren, oder ob man nahe am Erschöpfungsort trainieren sollte. Er schließt, dass eine Balance zwischen den beiden notwendig ist, um einen effektiven Trainingsimpuls zu erzielen und gleichzeitig die Möglichkeit zu haben, das nächste Mal wieder einen effektiven Impuls zu setzen.

📚 Zusammenfassung verschiedener Perspektiven auf Trainingshärte

Greg Nuckles fasst die Diskussion über Trainingshärte zusammen, indem er die unterschiedlichen Perspektiven auf die Intensität jedes Sets und das Trainingsvolumen betrachtet. Für Muskelhypertrophie sollte man nahe am Erschöpfungsort trainieren, während für Krafttraining Sets nahe am Erschöpfungsort wertvoll sind, aber auch niedrigere Stress-Sets mit mehr als drei Reservereps für die Bewährung von Fähigkeiten und das Perfektionieren von Motormustern. Die Entscheidung, wie hart man trainieren sollte, hängt von verschiedenen Faktoren ab, einschließlich der individuellen Toleranz gegenüber Volumen, der Art des Trainings, der Übungsauswahl und der Fähigkeit des Einzelnen, von nahe am Erschöpfungsort trainierten Sätzen zu genesen. Eine allgemeine Regel ist, dass man nach den meisten Trainingseinheiten erschöpft, aber nicht völlig erschöpft sein sollte, und dass Muskeln in der Regel innerhalb von etwa drei Tagen nach dem Training wieder erholt sein sollten.

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Keywords

💡Trainingsintensität

Die Trainingsintensität bezieht sich auf den Schweregrad oder die Anstrengung, die während eines Trainings aufgebracht wird. Im Video wird diskutiert, dass die Intensität je nach dem individuellen Trainingsziel und dem aktuellen Trainingsphasen oder Mesocycle variieren sollte. Ein Beispiel aus dem Skript ist, dass man am Anfang eines Mesocycles weniger hart trainieren sollte, während am Ende Intensität und Volumen erhöht werden können, um optimal zu gewinnen.

💡Rating of Perceived Exertion (RPE)

Das Rating of Perceived Exertion (RPE) ist ein Maß für die wahrgenommene Anstrengung während eines Satzes. Es wird auf einer Skala von 1 bis 10 gemessen, wobei 10 bedeutet, dass keine Wiederholungen in Reserve vorhanden sind. Im Video wird RPE als wichtiges Instrument zur Steuerung der Trainingsintensität herangezogen, um zu bestimmen, wie hart man trainieren sollte, ohne die nächste Workout-Sitzung zu beeinträchtigen.

💡Repetitions in Reserve (RIR)

Repetitions in Reserve (RIR) ist das Gegenteil von RPE und misst, wie viele Wiederholungen noch in Reserve sind, wenn ein Satz beendet wird. Ein RIR von Null bedeutet, dass keine Wiederholungen übrig sind (entspricht RPE 10). Im Video wird RIR verwendet, um die Trainingslast zu steuern und sicherzustellen, dass die Belastung im optimalen Bereich bleibt, um Muskelwachstum zu fördern.

💡Mesocycle

Ein Mesocycle ist eine Phase im periodisierten Training, die in der Regel vier bis acht Wochen dauert. Im Video wird betont, dass die Trainingsintensität und das Volumen während eines Mesocycles variiert werden sollten, um die Muskeladaptation zu optimieren und um die nächste Workout-Sitzung nicht zu beeinträchtigen.

💡Fatigue

Fatigue beschreibt den Zustand des Erschöpfung oder der Müdigkeit, der durch intensives Training entsteht. Im Video wird darauf hingewiesen, dass man die Trainingsintensität nicht so hoch schalten sollte, dass die zukünftigen Workout-Sitzungen aufgrund von Übermüdung geschwächt werden.

💡Hypertrophie

Hypertrophie ist das Wachstum und die Vergrößerung der Muskelzellen, das durch Widerstandstraining ausgelöst wird. Im Video wird diskutiert, dass die Trainingsintensität und das Volumen auf eine Weise gesteuert werden sollten, die Muskelhypertrophie fördert, indem man die Muskeln ausreichend belastet, ohne zu viel Übermüdung zu verursachen.

💡Form

Die Form bezieht sich auf die korrekte Technik oder Haltung während des Trainings. Im Video wird betont, dass auch in fortgeschrittenen Trainingsphasen die Form wichtig ist und dass eine Überbeanspruchung, die zu einer schlechten Form führt, vermieden werden sollte.

💡Individualisierung

Individualisierung bedeutet, dass Trainingspläne und -methoden auf die individuellen Bedürfnisse, Fähigkeiten und Ziele des Athleten abgestimmt werden sollten. Im Video wird mehrmals betont, dass die beste Trainingsmethode je nach dem individuellen Fortschritt und den persönlichen Zielen des Trainiers variieren kann.

💡Konzentrationssätze (Cluster Sets)

Konzentrationssätze sind ein Trainingsverfahren, bei dem eine bestimmte Anzahl von Wiederholungen in kurzen, intensiven Bursts durchgeführt wird, normalerweise mit einem kurzen Pausen zwischen den Bursts. Im Video wird erwähnt, dass solche Techniken nützlich sein können, um fortgeschrittene Trainee durch Trainingsplateaus zu helfen.

💡Wechsel der Übungen

Der Wechsel der Übungen bedeutet, verschiedene Übungen in einem Trainingszyklus zu verwenden, um verschiedene Muskelgruppen zu belasten und zu trainieren. Im Video wird dies als eine Methode beschrieben, um die Muskulatur zu diversifizieren und neue Herausforderungen zu setzen, insbesondere in fortgeschrittenen Trainingsphasen.

Highlights

The importance of training intensity in fitness and how to balance it.

Definition of RPE (Rating of Perceived Exertion) and RIR (Reps in Reserve).

Dr. Mike Isratel's philosophy on training intensity and its impact on future sessions.

Training phases and how to adjust intensity based on the mesocycle.

The significance of starting with a manageable load and gradually increasing it.

Why not taking sets to failure early in a training phase can be beneficial.

IFBB Pro John Meadows' perspective on training intensity based on experience level.

Importance of form and technique even when training at high intensities.

Dr. Steffy Cohen's view on pushing limits and the role of failure in training.

The necessity of individualization in training programs.

Dr. Eric Helms' insights on the role of RPE in hypertrophy training.

Finding a balance between training intensity and recovery.

Greg Nuckols' summary of training intensity and volume considerations.

The importance of listening to the body and adjusting training accordingly.

The role of high volume and low intensity in certain training phases.

The value of combining wisdom from athletes, coaches, and scientific literature.

The significance of training to failure for strength and muscle growth.

The need for a blend of high and low stress sets for skill development.

Transcripts

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so in this video i'm asking five highly

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qualified experts one of the most

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important questions in fitness

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how hard should we train so mike i was

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going to

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pose you the question i've been posing

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to everyone else how hard

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is it that we should be training in the

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gym okay

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i'm ready are we recording yet how hard

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should we be training in the gym

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as hard as you need to that is honestly

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it's a really difficult question

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that that is as succinct as i can get

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yeah that was amazing now just to

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quickly make sure

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everyone's on the same page there are

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two terms you'll need to know to keep up

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our pe stands for rating of perceived

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exertion and it basically just ranks how

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hard a set was

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on a scale of 1 to 10. so an rpe of 10

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means you had zero reps in reserve an rp

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of 9 means you could have got one more

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rep if you pushed it all the way to

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failure

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and so on and then rir stands for reps

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and reserve and it's basically the

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inverse of rpe

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so a zero rir means you had zero reps in

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reserve and that would be the same as

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saying rp10

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and rir of one is the same as rpe 9 and

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so on

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so up first i spoke with dr mike isratel

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and he explained to me his basic

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philosophy that

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even though it might be tempting we

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shouldn't always train as hard as

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possible

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because we need to consider how fatigue

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from going too hard

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might impact future training sessions a

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lot of folks will say

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you gotta train hard enough to make

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gains and that's true

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that's true as far as it goes if it

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doesn't go far enough i think we could

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do a little bit better we can say

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you have to train hard enough to make

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gains but not so hard that your next

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workout suffers

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and it becomes a situation where your

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next workout is unable to make you gains

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because you went too hard then

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throughout our chat he emphasized that

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it ultimately depends on where you are

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in your training phase or mesocycle

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where at the beginning of a four to

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eight week training program you should

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train

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less hard and with lower volumes but

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then toward the end of a mesocycle you

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should train

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very hard and with more volume and we

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can get a little bit more technical as

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to what it means to train

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hard enough to make gains i'm gonna

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start at a load that gets you

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oh somewhere close to three reps in

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reserve and then as far as volume

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you want to start towards the lower end

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of the number of sets that's probably a

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volume

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where you know you get notably fatigued

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in the target muscle you don't want to

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leave the gym and be like my biceps feel

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100 fine it's probably not stimulative i

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wouldn't bet that it's stimulative um

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you probably want to get a small pump

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you know if you get a massive pump it'll

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probably come with a ton of soreness at

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the front end you may not want uh but no

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pump at all is

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curious uh unlikely to stimulate

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hypertrophy at least nearly optimally

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and you probably want to get uh you know

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maybe like a little bit sore at most a

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little bit

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you start roughly three reps in reserve

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and then every week after that during

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your accumulation phase you're going to

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increase

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something a little bit some combination

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of increasing load and or reps

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more or less every session that you do

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the same thing every week and

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you want to make sure the load and rep

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increases maintain or reduce

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rar by roughly one each week so that

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means you could potentially

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do your next week three r your next week

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three hour or next week through an hour

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that's a fine way to train

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but uh if your next week is two ir and

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then the one after is one or ir and then

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the one after a zero rr that's totally

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cool too which you don't want is a

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situation

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in which you're not adding enough reps

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and load each week and what ends up

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happening is

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your reps and reserve actually go up so

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you don't want to start a three rir and

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then end up a four rar the next week and

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five reps and reserve the week after

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because they're actually training

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easier and easier each week relative to

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your body's capabilities

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and outside of the realm of where best

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adaptations are had when your repetition

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strength

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flatlines and then takes a dip you've

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reached your maximum recoverable volume

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for that last week

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that means adding any more volume or

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even staying at that volume is going to

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be more and more deleterious to gains

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and it's probably not a good idea to

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keep going your fatigue is very high

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you want to take a de-load decrease all

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that fatigue and then come back

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and realign everything just like you

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started three rir again

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lower end of volumes again and then

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progress through and that's how training

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sort of naturally builds itself now

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later in our conversation i asked mike

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exactly why he doesn't like to take any

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sets to failure early on in a training

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phase so what's the downside of just

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taking say the last set of each exercise

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to failure

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even in the first week of a program and

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it led to a very informative discussion

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if you're going to have failure as

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making the biggest difference in your

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growth

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it's almost certainly true that you

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don't need that difference at the

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beginning of a motorcycle you just had a

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de-load

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you just traded in some exercises and

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traded in some rep ranges for some

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others

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the novelty is so great your sensitivity

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for growth is so great

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almost certainly get great results in

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the first week by going shy of failure

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you just don't need to go that hard now

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could you say the same thing about the

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last week

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for example if you said now mike

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everything

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in the last week i ever do i always stop

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at one rir i never try to go to true

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failure

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are there downsides to that that i would

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agree with you 100 there are

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hypothetical downsides there could be

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some magic especially delayed growth

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especially in the advanced

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that is there between that one and zero

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rar so i would say in the last week

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if this doesn't come crashing down on

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you like a squat or a bench

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and if you have a good bench spotter go

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all the way to failure is a really

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really good idea

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to make sure you check all the boxes i

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just don't understand why you would do

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that in week one

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because you're getting great gains

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anyway not having to try that hard now

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failure training is fun

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sweet get up just make sure it's not

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poisoning you fatigue wise

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uh for the next session you know you

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don't want to be in a situation where

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you're needlessly cutting your volume

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and you're getting a little pings and

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dings and getting hurt a little bit much

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and you're like man

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tell you what i always get hurt on that

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stupid failure set

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why the hell am i doing it uh then if

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you can't justify it i wouldn't do it

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then so for mike how hard you should go

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mainly depends on where you are in your

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program next i spoke with ifbb pro john

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meadows and he really emphasized that

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how hard you should train

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mostly depends on how advanced you are

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with the grueling high intensity

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techniques he's most known for

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being most useful for helping advanced

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trainees break through training plateaus

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when you start training i think we all

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realize that you don't have to kill

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yourself

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you don't need to take sets to failure

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you don't need a crazy high amount of

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volume

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just by learning proper form you just

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continue to get stronger and stronger

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you make

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nice little incremental increases in

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strength but that only take you so far

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you know wouldn't it be great if that's

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how training was all the time you could

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just kind of

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add 10 pounds on the bar for the rest

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your life and then by the time you're

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60 years old you could bench 1200 pounds

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but

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that's just not how it works so you kind

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of move into an intermediate stage

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where it's like okay now i i feel most

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of these movements pretty good

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it's not as easy to get a strong now now

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i'm going to add a little bit of volume

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i'm going to add a little bit of

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intensity

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the primary goal with that phase i think

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is still

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trying to get a little bit stronger

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though it's just because you've kind of

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went out of that newbie gain phase it

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doesn't mean all of a sudden now you

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don't care about progressing your lifts

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you get to this advanced stage now all

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of a sudden you've got to challenge your

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body more

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so some of those techniques that we like

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to use an occasional cluster set an

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occasional drop set maybe you you start

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putting one of those in a workout

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you know going back to our chest example

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now maybe get on a machine and now maybe

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do a cluster set to finish your day or

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maybe do

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a drop set to finish your day something

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to really challenge the muscle

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i i always hesitate in saying this but i

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really believe it

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so you're probably going to get a lot of

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people that get really angry at me for

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saying this but

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i think that when you hit an advanced

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stage i think you could literally use

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any exercises you want

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in any order you want as long as those

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exercises work for you

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as long as you just take a certain

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amount of them to failure or failure and

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beyond

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because if you just look at muscle

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growth it's mechanical tension

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okay if you're using an exercise that

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gives you mechanical tension

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you're probably going to grow and that's

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where you see the advanced guys can

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sometimes use those techniques to do

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really really well

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in particular naturals you know the drug

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aided guys have a lot of chemicals that

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can help them continue to break through

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plateaus but

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the natural guys in particular they can

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kind of sprinkle some of that stuff

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in it's really good for them to continue

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to grow

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it doesn't really matter what exercise

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it is as long as it's one that you feel

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working well

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and as long as you get good activation

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good mechanical tension and exhausting

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muscle fibers like if you're doing those

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three things

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what else are you going to do to make

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your muscle grow like that's what muscle

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growth is

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i mean that's really kind of the crux up

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you find an exercise that works well for

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you

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and you just push it hard john also

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emphasized the importance of form

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even in advanced stages and that

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training harder shouldn't come at the

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expense of excessive technique breakdown

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and i think it's important to continue

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to work on your form you know you get a

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guy like you and i

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we've been training for a long time but

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even we still try to work on our form so

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it doesn't mean that you all of a sudden

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stop thinking about your form and

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things like that now i also wanted to

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get a truly elite level athlete's

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viewpoint so i spoke with 25 time world

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record holding power lifter dr steffy

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cohen

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and while she also continually

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emphasized how important

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individualization is

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i think more than anyone else she

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highlighted that if you want to be the

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best

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you simply need to learn to push your

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limits so

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from my own experience what i've seen is

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that the best people

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in the game like great accomplishments

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and great athletes

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um come from working obsessively like

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you don't achieve

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greatness from casual effort you know

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never once in my entire career

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did i think that i come into the gym

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thinking about what's the least i can do

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to like get by

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from the for the most part and this is

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based on what i've observed

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people rarely train hard enough and

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they're usually in what i call the 50

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50 zone where they

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don't take themselves to like not

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failure but like to an intensity that is

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actually challenging ever rarely

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and then they don't rest when they're

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supposed to rest so it's like you end up

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being in this 50

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zone where you're always half-passing

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all of your workouts because you're not

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training hard enough when you when you

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should and you're not resting when you

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should

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we need to push our athletes and

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ourselves to improve their confidence

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and

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really really push for those adaptations

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so that they know how to respond to hard

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challenges

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and this needs to be obviously done in

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an intelligent way

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steffy also said that while she doesn't

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take every set to failure she will run

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relatively lighter accumulation phases

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training to failure is still a very

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central aspect of her programming

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training to failure is an integral part

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of strength training

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that for the most part in most recently

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has been underlooked your training

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should be

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should reflect the specificity of what

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you're trying to achieve

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so if you're trying to improve your one

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rep max squad

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you better be trying to train at those

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intensities i'm not saying that you're

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gonna max out every day

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but you should be challenging yourself

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almost every training session so that

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you can train your nervous system and

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your body to respond

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to that to to the demands of putting

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something that's really really heavy and

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having to move it up and down

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obviously there you go through

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accumulation phases as well so it won't

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be fair to just discard completely the

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idea of

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high volume and low and low intensity i

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think there's a time and place for that

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but once you've gone through like your

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four six or eight weeks of

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kind of introductory period of

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accumulating some load and

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fine fine-tuning your movement once

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that's done with

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now that's go time like you better spend

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four six or eight weeks

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really pushing yourself as hard as you

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can in those intensity

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intensity ranges like get to 90 95 100

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in your one two three four five rep max

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and really challenge yourself

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so you know if your goal is to just just

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train for health

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forget about everything i just said if

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your goal is to see

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how strong can you get how big can you

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get if you're really trying to test

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your limits then you're gonna have to

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like put in some effort

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and and some intensity stephie also said

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that to get the most out of your

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training it's important to blend wisdom

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from successful athletes

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coaches and the scientific literature so

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next i got dr eric helms on the line as

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someone who did his phd dissertation

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on this exact topic this is the i would

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say one of the few constants

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in hypertrophy training if you are not

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registering an rpe of like six or higher

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most the time you're probably not going

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to be growing very effectively

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it has to be reasonably close to failure

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uh or reasonably heavy which kind of

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forces you close to failure immediately

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and then do a lot of sets to

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compromise for the fact you're doing low

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reps so on a per set basis for

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hypertrophy

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it should probably be challenging for

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your work sets uh

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somewhere in the range of like a 5-10

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rpe depending on

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what your current goal is most the time

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we're talking like you know

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seven eight nine kind of thing because

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in the end we're trying to get a mechano

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transduction

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right mechanoreceptors in the muscle

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need to sense tension for us to start

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growing from resistance training

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so if a high level of tension needs to

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be achieved relative to what our current

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tension adaptations are we have to feel

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that it has to feel like a high level

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attention that can be pushing a low load

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set reasonably close to failure

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or that can be putting 80 on the bar and

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doing

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you know it could be triples if you want

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if you really want to do seven by three

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go for it right you'd probably rather do

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like four by six you know

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right um i'm gonna put a question to you

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now that we've been debating forever not

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me and you but just

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in the community and you know there's

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this idea that you want

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to be leaving some reps in the tank

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speaking for hypertrophy now

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so that you can accumulate more volume

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then you have other people saying well

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it actually works the other way you need

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to go

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pretty hard and get close to failure and

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it'd be worth it to slash some of those

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sets off if you're getting fatigued that

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way

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is there one that you put above the

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other

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i think it almost necessarily must be

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somewhere between those two extreme

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positions

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and not just because i'm trying to be

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like the political guy who's like you

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know the right and the left are both

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more i'm so smart

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but it's it's more because if we think

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about what the actual adaptation we're

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trying to get

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is it's it's the overlap of those two

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positions

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right if we ramp up the perfect stimulus

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we increase the total amount of recovery

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we need and we necessarily either reduce

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the frequency

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the volume or we have lingering central

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fatigue on subsequent days

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because of high levels of muscle damage

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which create a feedback loop

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not allowing us to tap into some of

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those high threshold motor units

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and we go to the gym and we just can't

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turn all the on so

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we have to balance those two things how

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do we get an effective stimulus when we

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train

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while stilling a lot allowing us to come

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back and put an effective stimulus the

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next time

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so it almost necessarily has to be in

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the middle and there's probably a huge

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continuum of what's

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equally effective if you do it

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intelligently and that's why you can

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have people on the more intensity side

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of the spectrum or volume side of the

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spectrum or

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winning winning titles because it

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probably doesn't make enough of a

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difference to be a limit

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to the actual practical outcomes within

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a given range of

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that continuum and to put all this

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together i thought research reviewer

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greg knuckles had a really succinct way

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of summarizing pretty much everything we

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currently know about the

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in the trenches coaching stuff and also

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the scientific data so i'm gonna let his

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summary

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round out the video all right so uh if

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if i sound robotic

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almost as if i'm reading off a script

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that's because i am

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so it really depends on the lifter the

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exercise and what you're hoping to

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accomplish and you can look at it

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kind of from two different perspectives

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both how hard should you push each set

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and also kind of how much training

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volume should you be doing so i'm going

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to start with the former

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uh for pure hypertrophy training i think

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your best bet is generally to be pretty

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close to failure

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so for lifts like squats or deadlifts

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where form breakdown could cause issues

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i think it's worth terminating a set at

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the point of technical breakdown

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for lifts like rows where you can get

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way way more reps if you allow for the

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use of momentum i think it's generally

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worth terminating a set

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uh when you're no longer feeling the

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movement in the muscles you're

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specifically trying to target so

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you know if rose become more biceps and

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lower back than lats that's probably

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when you want to cut it off

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otherwise i think you should generally

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be within two

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or so reps of concentric failure so

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that's for hypertrophy

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uh for strength work i think there's

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value in doing sets near failure so you

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get comfortable grinding but i also

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think there's value in doing a bunch of

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lower stress sets

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uh with three or more reps in reserve in

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order to practice skills and perfect

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motor patterns and so kind of which

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direction you go there

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is going to largely depend on the lifter

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skill the lift being trained

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how far you are from a meet variations

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in the individual lifters capacity to

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recover from near failure sets

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etc and then like i said the other

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factor for how hard should you train is

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kind of how much volume should you be

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doing

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um and i'm kind of approaching that on a

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per session basis

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so i think that depends very heavily on

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just the individual lifters tolerance

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for volume

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but also what type of training they're

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doing and their exercise selection

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so for example if they're doing those

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strength based sets with three plus reps

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in reserve

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they can probably do way more sets than

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if they're doing hypertrophy training

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doing say leg press to failure as a

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general rule of thumb though i think you

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can kind of base this on how you feel

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when you're leaving the gym

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so i think you should be fatigued but

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not completely exhausted after most

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workouts

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and i also think kind of recovery can

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give you some information about whether

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you're training hard enough so i think

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your muscles

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in general kind of painting with a broad

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brush should be more or less recovered

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within about three days after your

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training session so

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if your muscles feel totally fresh one

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or two days after your training session

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you probably should have done more

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volume unless you're intentionally

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trying to train with very high

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frequencies but if you're still

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really really sore and fatigued four

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days after a workout for the muscles you

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just trained

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i think that generally indicates that

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volume was probably a little bit too

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high awesome that was extremely succinct

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that that is as succinct as i can get

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yeah that was amazing so in making this

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video i spent about an hour speaking to

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each of these people about how hard you

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should train

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and because there was so much amazing

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info including a lot of stuff that sort

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of went off topic

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i decided i'm going to upload the full

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