Jeffrey Sachs Interivew - The Geopolitics of NATO Enlargement

Summary

このビデオスクリプトは、2022年のロシアの侵攻から始まったと西側メディアが言う戦争とは異なり、その根底はソビエト連邦の崩壊の終わりに遡る。アメリカは冷戦後の軍事同盟の解体を約束し、NATOの東拡大を計画した。ウクライナの中立を求めるロシアと対立し、2014年のクーデターと戦争の拡大につながった。米国は平和を築く代わりに軍事支援を増やし、核戦争へのリスクを高める。若者たちは平和で協力的かつ環境に配慮した世界を築くべきだ。

Takeaways

• 🌏 この対立は数十年にわたって存在しており、2022年のロシアの侵攻から始まったとは限りません。
• 🤝 1990年代にアメリカとドイツはソビエト連邦に対して、ソビエト軍事同盟を解体すればNATOは東へ一インチも移動しないと約束しましたが、アメリカはその約束を破りました。
• 📈 アメリカはソビエト連邦が崩壊した後すぐにNATOの東拡大を計画し始め、1992年にはウクライナもそのリストに上がっていました。
• 🔄 2008年にジョージ・W・ブッシュ大統領はNATOの拡大を強力に推進し、ウクライナが加盟することを宣言しましたが、ロシアはこれに激しく反発しました。
• 🏆 2010年にウクライナの大統領選挙で中立を掲げるヴィクトル・ヤナコーヴィチが選ばれましたが、その後もNATOに傾倒する政治家がいたため、中立を脅かしました。
• 💥 2014年にアメリカが関与したウクライナでの政権交代が激しい緊張を引き起こし、ロシアは中立を求めるべきだと主張しました。
• 📝 2021年にバイデン政権が就任後もNATOの拡大を支持し、ロシアとの緊張を高め続けました。
• 🛑 2022年2月24日にロシアは軍事侵攻を開始し、NATO拡大に関する理解が達成されなかったことがロシアの行動の核心となったと述べています。
• 🕊️ ロシアとウクライナは2022年3月に平和協議を進めていたが、アメリカがそれを妨害し、ウクライナに戦いを続けるように促しました。
• 💔 この戦争はウクライナの破壊と核戦争へのリスクをもたらし、アメリカの硬直した姿勢は危険で無責任だと思います。
• 🌱 若い世代は平和で協力的で環境に配慮した、そして公正な世界を築くべきだと述べています。

Q & A

2022年のロシアの侵攻が西部の主流メディアで述べられるように、この紛争はいつ始まったとされていますか？

この紛争は2022年のロシアの侵攻から始まったとは言えず、実際にはソビエト連邦の崩壊の終わり頃の1990年代の地理政治学に遡ります。

1990年に米国とドイツはミハイル・ゴルバチョフに何を約束しましたか？

米国とドイツは、ゴルバチョフがソビエト軍事連盟を解体すれば、NATOは東wardに1インチも移動しないと約束しました。

米国がNATOの東拡大計画をいつ始めましたか？

1991年にソビエト連邦が終結した後すぐに、ワシントンの政策立案者、特にペンタゴンと米国の恒久国家はNATOの東拡大を計画し始めました。

2008年にジョージ・W・ブッシュはどのようにNATOの拡大を推進しましたか？

2008年のブカレストNATOサミットで、ジョージ・W・ブッシュはNATOがウクライナをメンバー国にする旨を発表しました。

2010年のウクライナの大統領選挙でヴィクトル・ヤナコビッチはどのような政見で勝利しましたか？

ヴィクトル・ヤナコビッチは、ウクライナが2つの超大国間の戦場になりたくないという中立を求める政見で選挙に勝利しました。

2014年に米国が行ったとされる政変の性質は何ですか？

2014年に米国は、中立を求めるプロロシアのヤナコビッチ大統領を暴力的に失奪し、政変に関与しました。

2021年にバイデン政権がNATO拡大を支持した結果として何が起こりましたか？

バイデン政権がNATO拡大を支持した結果、プーチンは強く反発し、2021年12月17日にNATO拡大を認めない安保保障条約案を提案しましたが、バイデン政権はその問題について交渉する意思がありませんでした。

ウクライナが中立を認めるという宣言はいつされましたか？

ロシアの侵攻の4週間後の2022年、ゼレンスキーがウクライナが中立を認めると宣言しました。

アメリカがウクライナとの平和協定を妨害した理由は何ですか？

アメリカはウクライナが中立ではなく、NATO国であり、また西側の武器と経済制裁によって戦争が勝利すると考えていたため、平和協定を妨害しました。

バイデン政権がNATOの拡大を支持し続けた結果として何が起こりましたか？

プーチンはNATO拡大に対する反発として、2022年の夏に数十万人のロシア人を動員し、軍事エスカレーションの道を歩みました。

アメリカが持っているとされる世界経済の割合はどのくらいですか？

アメリカは世界人口の4.1％しか持っておらず、世界を支配する権利を持つことはできません。

中国が最近行ったとされる外交的な成功とは何ですか？

中国は最近、サウジアラビアとイランの間の穏やかな調停を行っており、これは外交的な成功として高く評価されています。

Outlines

00:00

🌏 NATO拡大とロシアの反応

第1段落では、西側メディアがロシアの2022年の侵攻を戦争の原因としている一方で、その根拠はソビエト連邦の末期にさかのぼると説明されています。1990年代に米国とドイツはミハイル・ゴルバチョフにNATOの東拡大を約束しなかったと主張していますが、実際にはNATOは東拡大を計画していたと指摘。さらに、2008年にジョージ・W・ブッシュはウクライナのNATO加盟を推進し、ロシアはこれに激しく反発したとされています。2010年に中立を提唱したウクライナのヴィクター・ヤナコーヴィチ大統領が米国の関与によって破壊されたと語り、その後の対立と米ロ対立が2021年に繰り広げられ、プーチンは米ロ安全保障協定の案を提示したが、バイデン政権はそれに応じなかったと述べています。

05:01

🏳️ ウクライナ中立化と米ロ間の緊張

第2段落では、2021年12月17日にロシアがNATO拡大の停止を求めたが、バイデン政権はそれに応じなかったとされ、2022年2月24日にロシアが侵攻に乗り出したと説明されています。ウクライナが中立を接受し、ロシアと平和交渉を進めたが、アメリカはウクライナに戦いを続けるように促し、平和協定を妨害したと指摘。アメリカはウクライナをNATO国家とし、経済制裁と武器供与でロシアを打ち破るつもりだったという考え方を明かしていますが、プーチンはこれに反発し、軍事エスカレーションを続けたと語っています。

10:02

💡 アメリカの傲慢と世界経済への影響

第3段落では、アメリカが世界を支配するべきだと主張する考え方と、アメリカの傲慢と無知が他の国に与える影響について述べています。アメリカは世界人口の4.1％しかなく、世界を支配するべきではないと主張。アメリカは経済制裁の下で自分自身も被害を受け、他の国の通貨強化につながっていると指摘。また、中国が世界的経済大国として台頭し、アメリカはこれを受け入れることができないと感じていますが、中国の成功は彼らの努力と賢明な経済政策によるものであると語っています。

15:03

🤝 中国の平和的役割と通貨多様化

第4段落では、中国が中東地域での紛争を和解に導く平和の仲介者として活躍していると紹介。特に、サウジアラビアとイランの間の和解は中国による外交的成果と評価されており、これにより地域の安定化と経済発展が促られると期待されています。アメリカは対立を煽る一方で、中国は協力を促進する姿勢を示していると述べています。また、アメリカは自国の通貨を武器化し、国際的な金融システムを脅かしていると指摘され、これは他の国が他の通貨を保有するよう求める一因となっていると語っています。

20:06

🔄 台湾情勢と国際政治の未来

第5段落では、台湾情勢がウクライナと同様に危険であり、冷静な対応が必要なと警告しています。台湾、中国、アメリカの3つの政府はすべて一つの中国政策を擁護しているが、アメリカは台湾との軍事的同盟を形成し、緊張を高めていると指摘。冲突を回避するためには、緊張を緩和し、協議と平和的な手段で解決する必要があると強調。また、若い世代が平和と協力、環境永続可能性、公平な世界を築くべきだと述べ、現在の暴力と環境破壊のサイクルから抜け出す必要性を訴えています。

Keywords

💡ソビエト連邦の崩壊

ソビエト連邦の崩壊は1991年に起こった大きな政治的事件で、冷戦構造の瓦解と新しい国際関係の形成につながった。ビデオでは、この事件が後にウクライナにおける緊張を引き起こす要因の1つとなっていると説明している。特に、NATOの東拡大とその影響について語られている。

💡NATOの東拡大

NATOの東拡大は、ビデオの主題である国際政治の緊張と関係が深い。NATOは冷戦後、元ソビエト連邦諸国に加盟を促す動きを強めており、それがロシアとの対立の火種となっている。ビデオでは、アメリカがソビエト連邦にNATOを東ward拡大しないという約束を破ったと批判している。

💡ミハイル・ゴルバチョフ

ゴルバチョフはソビエト連邦の元大統領で、冷戦後の平和と協力を目指して取り組んだ。ビデオでは、アメリカがゴルバチョフにNATOを東ward拡大しないと約束したにもかかわらず、後にその約束を破ったと主張している。

💡ブカレストNATO首脳会議

2008年に開催されたブカレストNATO首脳会議では、ウクライナがNATO加盟を目指すことが決定された。ビデオでは、ロシアにとってそれは脅威として受け止められ、その後の対立構造につながったと説明している。

💡ウクライナの中立

ウクライナの中立は、ビデオの重要なテーマの一つであり、国が超大国間の対立から離れた立場を取ることを意味する。2010年に選ばれた元ウクライナ大統領は中立を提唱していたが、後に米国による政権交代が起こったとビデオでは述べている。

💡ミンスク合意

ミンスク合意は、東ウクライナの離反派とウクライナ政府との間で2015年に結んだ停戦協議である。ビデオでは、ウクライナ政府がこれらの合意を履行しなかったことが、緊張を維持したと指摘している。

💡バイデン政権

バイデン政権は、ビデオでロシアとの緊張を高めた要因として挙げられている。特に、NATOの拡大を支持し、ロシアとの安全保障上の対立を深めたと批判されている。

💡核戦争

ビデオでは、現在の国際政治の緊張が核戦争に至る恐れがあると警告している。特に、米国とロシアの間の対立が、核戦争のリスクを高めていると指摘されている。

💡アメリカの傲慢

ビデオでは、アメリカの外交政策が傲慢であると批判されており、それが国際関係の緊張を高める要因となっている。アメリカは世界を支配する立場からアプローチしすぎであり、他の国々が求める独立性と協力を無視していると主張されている。

💡多通貨国際システム

ビデオでは、アメリカドルを中心とする国際通貨システムから、多通貨システムへの移行が進んでいると説明されている。これは、アメリカがドルを軍事化し、制裁を通じて其他国家のドル保有を凍結するため、他の国々がドル以外の通貨を保有するよう心がけるためだと分析されている。

Highlights

The conflict's roots trace back to the end of the Soviet Union and the geopolitical dynamics of that era.

The U.S. and Germany allegedly promised Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would not expand eastward post-Soviet Union dissolution.

Despite the promise, NATO planners began to seek Eastern expansion almost immediately after the Soviet Union's end.

Ukraine was on the list for NATO expansion as early as 1992, indicating a disregard for initial promises.

The U.S. pushed for NATO expansion at the 2008 Bucharest Summit, causing significant Russian opposition.

In 2010, a Ukrainian president advocating for neutrality was overthrown, with U.S. involvement alleged.

The Minsk agreements of 2014-2015, aimed at granting autonomy to breakaway regions, were not implemented by Ukraine.

Biden's administration continued the push for NATO enlargement, which Putin resisted, leading to heightened tensions.

Russia proposed a U.S.-Russia security agreement in December 2021, which the U.S. was unwilling to negotiate.

The initial Russian invasion in 2022 led to Ukraine's acceptance of neutrality and peace talks mediated by Turkey.

The U.S. allegedly blocked a peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine, prioritizing military support and sanctions.

The speaker criticizes the lack of negotiation between Biden and Putin since the invasion began.

The speaker expresses concern over the potential for nuclear war and the destruction of Ukraine due to ongoing conflict.

The U.S. is accused of having an arrogant and naive foreign policy, with a history of military interventions worldwide.

The speaker argues that the U.S. should not aspire to dominate the world and should respect the sovereignty of other nations.

The role of the U.S. dollar in global trade and its use as a tool of economic warfare is discussed.

The shift towards a multi-currency international system is highlighted as a response to U.S. economic policies.

China's role as a peacemaker, particularly in the Middle East, is praised, contrasting with the U.S. approach to foreign policy.

The situation in Taiwan is compared to that of Ukraine, with a call for cool heads to avoid conflict.

The speaker calls for an end to the war through political solutions, with the U.S. and Russia stepping back from military action.

The importance of building a peaceful, cooperative, environmentally sustainable, and fair world for future generations is emphasized.

Transcripts

this conflict is actually decades in the

making it didn't just come out of a

Russian invasion in 2022 as is often

said in the western mainstream media the

wars often defined as an unprovoked

attack in 2022. actually the roots of

this war go back to the end of the

Soviet Union and to the geopolitics

around that in 1990 the U.S at Germany

promised the Soviet government at the

time Mikhail Gorbachev the president

that NATO would not move one inch

Eastward if Gorbachev went ahead and

disbanded the Soviet military Alliance

in other words there would be a deal

that on the Soviet side the military

Alliance the so-called Warsaw Pact would

be added and on the western side NATO

would not take advantage and Germany

would be reunified but NATO would not

move one inch Eastward the U.S cheated

did on that because as soon as the

Soviet Union ended in 1991 the policy

makers in Washington especially in the

Pentagon and in the permanent state in

the United States immediately planned

for the Eastern expansion of NATO and by

1992 Ukraine was already on the list

that NATO would go that far in fact it's

big new Brzezinski a U.S major

geostrategist wrote in 1997 the timeline

for NATO expansion including that

Ukraine would become candidate between

2005 and 2010 which is exactly what

happened so this war started in my

opinion because the United States could

not accept a piece in which the military

alliances of both sides of the Cold War

would stand down well many things

happened over the 30 years between the

early 1990s and today but probably the

highlights to mention are that in 2008

George W Bush Jr forced NATO pushed NATO

but really pressed that NATO would

announce that Ukraine would become a

member and that happened at the

Bucharest NATO Summit in 2008 the

Russian leadership was Furious they had

warned again and again don't do that we

don't want your military right up

against our 2 000 kilometer border with

Ukraine then a Ukrainian president won

the election in 2010 on the program of

neutrality for Ukraine victriana kovich

won the election based on the idea that

Ukraine doesn't want to become the

battlefield between two superpowers and

called for neutrality which had been

enshrined in the original Ukrainian

Declaration of Independence but then was

abandoned by some of the nato-oriented

politicians of Ukraine later on so in

2010 janakovich called for for

neutrality but he was overthrown

violently in early 2014 with the U.S

participation so this was really a

terrible escalation because the

relatively pro-russian president but one

who called for neutrality which I think

was the only safe course for Ukraine was

overthrown and the United States played

a significant role in that people know

about the famous tape of Victoria

Newland who is now our under Secretary

of State at the time she was the

assistant Secretary of State and she

described who the U.S would see as the

next government three weeks before a

violent overthrow it's it's pretty ugly

business in my opinion well in any event

the war started in February 2014 it

escalated between 2014 and 2021 the

attempt to end the fighting at the end

of 2014 in early 2015 came into two

agreements called the Minsk agreements

in which the government of Ukraine

agreed with the Breakaway regions of

eastern Ukraine that those regions would

gain autonomy and then the government of

Ukraine failed to implement the Minsk to

agreements even though they were

endorsed by the U.N security Council so

the diplomacy failed again and when

Biden came into office in 2021 rather

than trying to de-escalate he called for

NATO enlargement and reinforced the U.S

push to expand Eastward Putin strongly

pushed back Biden pushed back the U.S

signed several statements in 2021

confirming that NATO would enlarge I

think this was all absolutely

irresponsible Russia masked troops on

its border and put on the table a draft

U.S Russia security agreement on

December 17

2021 based on no NATO enlargement the

Biden Administration formally replied

that it was not willing to negotiate

over that issue in a response in January

then Russia invaded on February 24th

2022 making clear that it was the

failure to reach an understanding on the

NATO question that was Central to

Russia's action four weeks later

zelenski declared that Ukraine was

accepting of neutrality in other words

the initial Russian invasion brought

Ukraine to the negotiating table and

during the second half of March with the

Turkish government being the mediators

Russia and Ukraine hammered out a peace

agreement incredibly the United States

blocked it because the United States

told the Ukrainian government you fight

on because American policy makers had

two ideas one was that the Ukraine

should not be neutral it should be a

NATO country and second that the war

would be won by some combination of

Western armaments and financial

sanctions and so the U.S ratcheted up

the war Putin said no we don't stand

down we fight and mobilize the hundreds

of thousands of Russians in the summer

of 2022 and since then we've been on a

path of military escalation I resent the

fact as a citizen threatened by this

that Biden has not negotiated over NATO

and that Biden and Putin have not talked

once as far as we know since February 24

2022 you know when two sides are

fighting they need to talk and negotiate

but that's rejected the hardliners in

the United States Newland Lincoln

Sullivan Biden say why negotiate we just

escalate we'll defeat Russia this is in

my view utterly Reckless and

irresponsible first it leads to the

destruction of Ukraine and second it

risks the escalation to nuclear war so

I'm very unhappy about this is and I

very much resent that the Main Street

Media like the New York Times repeats

the falsehood all the time that this was

an unprovoked action on February 24

2022 seemingly wanting us to be without

any context or history to understand

where this conflict came from and how it

can end and a newspaper like the New

York Times as a responsibility to tell

the truth and they're not doing it

indeed as Citizens we have the rights

you know a country is not looking after

in the U.S the prosperity of its own

citizens going out conducting these

irresponsible ones when we don't have

time with other things with the

environment ironically what seems to be

behind it all is this insistence on a

unipolar world insistence on dominance

and while the U.S wants to hold on to

its status as a reserve currency it

seems under those economic sanctions

that U.S has also suffered it might even

be hastening strengthening the current

cities of other countries well the basic

point is the U.S has 4.1 percent of the

world population so how could it presume

to be the world leader you know the U.S

is a powerful country it's a rich

country but it doesn't run the world and

it should not aspire to run the world

that's a kind of Madness and the U.S

ideology for a long time has been that

the U.S should run the world it's to my

mind unbelievable but then again I've

spent most of my career outside the U.S

seeing the other

95.9 of the world and I know that the

other 95 of the world doesn't want the

United States to run the world it's not

against the United States it just says

let us have our own part of the world we

don't want you running the world we

don't want you deciding what our

government is who we are how we rule

ourselves you know you're just one place

and this the United States leader don't

understand they're very arrogant they're

very ignorant because of the two big

oceans they're very unaware of the

history of other parts of the world and

we end up with this arrogant and naive

and dangerous foreign policy because

there's no doubt the United States is

Rich and powerful and it makes lots of

weapon systems and I'm 68 years old and

the United States has been at War almost

every year of my life from Vietnam and

Laos and Cambodia at Nicaragua at

Afghanistan and Iraq and Syria at Libya

and now Ukraine come on give it a break

and the U.S is also experiencing the

reality that other places in the world

are catching up on technology indeed

leading on Technologies as well and

China is a very successful very

industrious very hard-working society

which in the last 40 years has gone from

poverty to a very significant World

important economy and the U.S is a very

hard time accepting that the U.S

attitude if you listen to congressmen

who don't seem to know anything is oh if

China's successful must be because

they're cheating what about because

they're saving more than 40 percent of

GDP that the Chinese people have that

engaging in a remarkable upgrading of

Education hundreds of thousands of phds

minted each year massive scientific

research programs come on this is the

truth and so this arrogance is not

allowing the truth to come through but

you mentioned one specific point which

is the role of the U.S dollar part of

the U.S strength after World War II is

well the U.S was basically the only

economy standing and it was a

technologically advanced Rich large

economy the world's largest and the

dollar was really the only International

usable currency for quite a long time so

the dollar system became the center of

how you do International Trade when you

traded Goods they're denominated in

dollars when you buy the Imports you pay

in dollars meaning you use accounts in

U.S dollars typically the U.S banking

system when the transaction is closed

it's closed through the so-called Swift

interbank system and so the U.S has had

a what France long ago called an

exorbitant privilege that it could a lot

of money because the rest of the world

was holding dollars using dollars the

dollar was the basis of the world

economy that's changing now and it's

changing for three basic reasons one is

the share of the US and the world

economy is diminishing so this means

that the predominance of the U.S is

bound to diminish the second is

technologically settlements are going to

occur in all sorts of ways other than

through U.S banks and so-called digital

currencies especially Central Bank

digital currencies will mean other ways

to make settlements we'll settle in

Redmond B when we buy in China or settle

in Rubles or settle in rupees when trade

is with India and so forth so there will

be multiple currencies and then the

third part which is really a matter of a

bad set of decision making the U.S has

militarized the dollar meaning that

usually you think about money well

you're to have it you can use it you can

spend it but the United States has come

to say if we don't like you you don't

necessarily have access to your money

anymore if it's in our banks so the U.S

froze the dollar Holdings of Russia the

U.S has frozen the dollar Holdings of

Venezuela the U.S froze the dollar

Holdings of Afghanistan my advice to any

government that's not getting along with

the U.S government is be careful about

your body because the U.S might come in

and freeze your money and so countries

are looking to hold their reserves in

other ways now perfectly understandable

and I think that this is another part of

the move to a multi-currency

International System from a dollar-based

International System and you mentioned

the possibility of a reserve currency

being the remnb and so there's other

things that are not often reported about

China One and I know that you've written

about this as well is that they're

stepping in where America policy of DC

stabilizing and it's destructive China

in some cases in the Middle East is

stepping in as a peacemaker and it's

less expensive if we can achieve peace

well probably the most remarkable

diplomatic achievement of recent years I

would say is China brokering a peace

agreement between Saudi Arabia and Iran

in the American idea those two countries

were implacable foes they could never

agree and for the United States Iran was

the enemy and Saudi Arabia was the Ally

but the whole idea of U.S foreign policy

is you bring countries under your

Authority as an ally of the United

States like Saudi Arabia and you fight

your enemies on the other side but China

has a different idea which is that Saudi

Arabia and Iran had no fundamental

reasons for this dissension but they

have plenty of reasons for cooperation

for one thing they're both being hard

hit by climate change they need to

cooperate because the Water Crisis is

quite severe they're both hydrocarbon

economies they meet an energy

transformation which is very profound

and so the Chinese facilitated a

Reconciliation between the two I'm very

happy about that reconciliation by the

way the fighting between the bitterness

between Iran and Saudi Arabia divided

Western Asia it contributed to

absolutely devastating war in Yemen in

which the United States gave its

military support that killed a lot of

people and it destabilized a region that

needs a lot of economic transformation

and technological upgrading and change

and so this agreement is really a big

help for the whole region not only for

the two countries involved and China

gets a lot of credit in my view for

having the wisdom to see that that was a

conflict that could be solved not just

exacerbated but the U.S approach was

always to push at it I even when the U.S

made an agreement with Iran the nuclear

agreement called the jcpoa the U.S

government walked away from it and then

it maintained sanctions on Iran because

the U.S is not really serious at making

peace most of the time it's got it US

versus that mentality and I find that

very destructive and not in the U.S

interest yes

approach because says it's dangerous

what's happening now in Taiwan and just

help us understand this situation like

and that through lines between these

proxy wars and what could happen in

China well the situation in Taiwan is

like the situation in Ukraine very

explosive very dangerous and it requires

cool heads to avoid a conflict the fact

of the matter is that actually all three

governments let me say the United States

Taiwan and China have a policy that

there's one China and whether it is the

government in Taiwan or the government

in Beijing they both say there's one

China they disagree on what happened in

1949 and how China should be governed

but they don't say there are two

countries and the United States when it

established diplomatic relations with

the People's Republic of China very

clearly said that there is one China and

has one China policy and that is how to

keep peace and to make sure that this 10

tension between Beijing and Taipei does

not boil over to open conflict but the

United States started to play games with

this it started to form a military

alliance with Taiwan in effect which is

really coming into a military Alliance

in the middle of one country and this is

an extremely dangerous and imprudent

thing to do and Biden starts talking

about how we're going to defend Taiwan

and the American politicians talk about

how a war is coming it's all utterly

Reckless irresponsible and what we

should have is trying to reduce tensions

diffuse tensions through negotiation

through talk through peace building

ideas rather than stoking the idea that

some conflict is inevitable a conflict

would be devastating of course first and

foremost for Taiwan but actually for the

whole world and so this needs to be

avoided and we need cool heads and we

shouldn't have American politicians safe

rattling we should not have speaker

Nancy Pelosi fly to Taiwan after the

Chinese government has repeatedly said

don't do that don't provoke don't stir

up things don't make conflicts where

there don't have to be conflicts but the

United States leadership doesn't listen

very well it's the same thing that when

Putin said many many many times do not

expand NATO to Ukraine the United States

oh sorry we don't hear you you have

nothing to say about that that's none of

your business and that war comes this is

very typical of American foreign policy

because American foreign policy leaders

are too arrogant and they don't listen

yes and now 61 years since the Cuban

Missile Crisis you defend think we

learned our lesson and of course America

would never accept military Alliance on

its doorstep you know say coming down

from Canada or something like that well

of course when Cuba aligned with the

Soviet Union in 1960 the U.S idea was

invade that's it it didn't say Oh Mr

Castro you could do what you want it's

an open door if you want to be with

Soviet Union that's fine with us no it

said well we invade so that was 1961 in

1962 in the repercussions of that and in

a really Reckless gamble Reckless action

by the Soviet Union putting missiles

into Cuba this whole conflict escalated

to just the brink of nuclear war in the

Cuban Missile Crisis and then in 1963

both President Kennedy and Soviet

chairman Nikita Khrushchev said you know

we have to pull back from the brink we

have to live together we should not be

coming to the edge of global nuclear war

and they say the partial nuclear Test

Ban Treaty in the summer of 1963 proving

that even at the height of the Cold War

if the mindset is right you can make

peace and that's the mindset that we

need now you yes it seems like the

neocon mindset never really went away

you know just help us understand because

to my mind you know Ukraine is not

indispensable for the US right it's just

this idea of NATO enlargement but

there's other forces behind the scenes

that are you know profiting or pushing

and I understand that zielinski you know

secured 110 billion dollars in usaid and

of course humanitarian Financial

Military Support also like key

Partnerships with you know the BlackRock

Venture Capital firm Goldman Sachs to

privatize Ukrainian assets so that would

then deepen the country's debt so help

us understand that a little the path

forward how do we get out of this well

when the debate raged initially in the

1990s about the wisdom or lack of wisdom

of NATO enlargement which was contrary

to what we had promised and was not wise

a lobbying campaign took place in the

United States led by the military

industrial complex very crude that's how

American politics Works bring out the

big bucks so it was Raytheon and

Lockheed Barton and other big companies

became the lobbyists and then you know

American congressmen they salute money

they salute campaign contributions they

salute the lobbyists and so this is how

American politics works there are always

Financial interests that are also

playing a role here so we have a mix of

ideology confusion lack of historical

sense arrogance and money all stirring

the pot it has very little to do with

the American people though the American

people are not asked about anything the

votes on money for Ukraine are generally

almost secret because they're not really

debated they're just measures stuck into

some other piece of legislation so that

you never have to debate the fact that

we've spent more than 110 billion

dollars so far on Ukraine and nobody's

really been asked about it nothing of

the American people haven't really

really been asked so this is how

American politics works now what should

be done this war should end by the

United States saying that NATO will not

enlarge and Russia say we take our

troops home that's the core of this that

was available in December 2021 it was

available in March 2022 and it's still

available now it doesn't solve many many

other issues what happens to the

territories what happens to Crimea these

are for negotiations but the basic idea

is that the two superpowers back off and

that the war stops and that we go to

political Solutions not military

Solutions and that should be our

priority and so finally as you think

about the future of the prospect of

nuclear war the kind of world that we're

leaving the Next Generation what would

you like young people to know preserve

and remember young people should lead

the way to a safer Cooperative peaceful

and environmentally sustainable and fair

world this is the point we need to build

the future we want not to feel trapped

in this mindless cycle of violence and

environmental destruction the problems

that we Face are solvable and they are

not driven by the needs of the people

they're driven by greed or power seeking

of Elites and we need to have a new

generation say this is not working we

want a world that is at peace that is

shared in prosperity and that solves the

environmental crises which have become

so deep and are neglected in part

because we are wasting our time our

lives our resources on these useless

Wars