Beta Males of Middle-earth TAKE OVER - Rings of Power IN-DEPTH - Season 2, Ep 5, Part 3

The One Ring
17 Sept 202423:24

Summary

TLDRIn this video script, the reviewer expresses a lukewarm response to the portrayal of Númenor in 'The Rings of Power', criticizing the show's handling of faith, prophecies, and character development. They find the storyline unconvincing, with characters like Pharzôn and his son Kem lacking depth. The reviewer also mocks the show's dialogue, calling it 'torture' and 'convoluted'. Additionally, they touch upon the disconnect between the show's depiction of Númenor and Tolkien's lore, lamenting the missed opportunity to explore the rich history and religious aspects of the region.

Takeaways

  • 🎭 The speaker is critical of the storytelling in 'The Rings of Power', finding many of the plotlines and character motivations lacking.
  • 🗣️ The usurpation of the throne by Miriel is mentioned as being too quick and too easy, with no significant resistance from the people.
  • 👑 The shift in the Royal Line is accepted without much fuss, which the speaker finds unrealistic and poorly executed.
  • 🌊 The Numenorean storyline is described as 'meh' by the speaker, indicating a lack of interest or investment in the narrative.
  • 📖 The speaker misses the co-host Michael, who is known for his deep knowledge of Tolkien's lore and his ability to remember names.
  • 🎧 The podcast they are reviewing is called 'The Rings of Power' and is part of a series that also reviews 'The Hobbit' and 'Unfinished Tales'.
  • 💾 The speaker encourages listeners to become members for extended content and access to a Discord community.
  • 🎭 The speaker mocks the dialogue and narrative devices used in the show, such as prophecies and visions, for being contrived and lacking depth.
  • 🏰 The depiction of Numenor is criticized for feeling small and lacking grandeur, despite it being an ancient and significant city.
  • 🛡️ The disarmament of Miriel's loyalists is mentioned, with the speaker noting the ease with which they give up their weapons without a fight.
  • 🔮 The use of the palantiri is discussed, with the speaker noting the deviation from Tolkien's original concept of them as communication devices to a more mystical, prophesying role in the series.

Q & A

  • What is the main complaint the speaker has about the storytelling in the Rings of Power?

    -The speaker feels that the storytelling in the Rings of Power is 'meh' and lacks depth, with characters making decisions that seem illogical or unmotivated, such as the easy usurpation of the throne and the lack of resistance.

  • What does the speaker criticize about the portrayal of Numenor in the Rings of Power?

    -The speaker criticizes the portrayal of Numenor for being small and lacking grandeur, despite it being an ancient and significant city. They also criticize the city's depiction as not requiring an aqueduct after supposedly being around for thousands of years.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the character development in the Rings of Power?

    -The speaker believes that the character development in the Rings of Power is shallow and that the writers force relationships and prophecies in a way that feels unnatural and lacks emotional impact.

  • What is the significance of the 'paler' in the context of the Rings of Power?

    -In the Rings of Power, the 'paler' is a seeing stone that is used for visions and communication, similar to how the palantíri were used in the Lord of the Rings. The speaker criticizes how it is used as a cheap plot device for prophecies and visions.

  • What does the speaker find ridiculous about the character Kem in the Rings of Power?

    -The speaker finds Kem's character ridiculous because he is portrayed as a weak and ineffective leader who makes grand statements without any real power or support, yet he manages to usurp power with little resistance.

  • What is the speaker's view on the handling of faith and religion in the Rings of Power?

    -The speaker views the handling of faith and religion in the Rings of Power as shallow and thoughtless. They criticize the show for not exploring the depth of Numenorian faith and for reducing it to mere rituals and relics.

  • Why does the speaker believe the Numenorian storyline is not engaging?

    -The speaker believes the Numenorian storyline is not engaging because it lacks emotional depth, the characters' motivations are unclear, and the storyline feels disconnected from the broader world of Middle Earth.

  • What is the speaker's issue with the pacing of the storyline in the Rings of Power?

    -The speaker's issue with the pacing is that significant events, such as the usurpation of the throne, happen too quickly and without proper buildup, making them feel unimportant or unbelievable.

  • What does the speaker suggest as an alternative to the Rings of Power for Tolkien fans?

    -The speaker suggests that Tolkien fans should read 'Unfinished Tales' or listen to the podcast that goes through it, as it provides a richer and more faithful exploration of Middle Earth.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the adaptation of the character Elendil in the Rings of Power?

    -The speaker feels that the character Elendil is not well-developed in the Rings of Power, with his actions and motivations being unclear and not resonating with the audience.

  • What does the speaker think about the dialogue and phrasing used in the Rings of Power?

    -The speaker criticizes the dialogue and phrasing in the Rings of Power as being convoluted and lacking the poetic and meaningful language that is characteristic of Tolkien's work.

Outlines

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🌊 Seawater Paths and Power Shifts in Numenor

The paragraph discusses the ease with which power has shifted in Numenor, with Muriel being usurped in a bloodless coup that no one seems to care about. The speaker is unimpressed with the storyline, finding it mediocre and lacking in conflict. They mention a promotion to the new manorian and a bloodless, uncaring shift of the Royal Line. The speaker also talks about their podcast, inviting listeners to join their Discord community for extended content, and discusses the Rings of Power, touching on the character of Pharazon and his son Kemen, as well as the desire for deathlessness. The paragraph ends with a critique of the show's handling of Numenor's storyline and characters.

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🔮 Visions of Destiny and the Misuse of the Palantir

This section delves into the visions experienced by characters Muriel and Elendil, with a focus on the use of the Palantir. The speaker criticizes the show's blending of the Palantir with Galadriel's mirror, turning it into a 'crystal ball for the future.' They discuss the historical use of the Palantir as communication devices and how the show has altered this purpose. The speaker also touches on the new Manorian knife buyback program and the forced disarmament of Muriel's loyalists, highlighting the lack of resistance and the ease with which the coup is accepted. The paragraph concludes with a discussion about the show's portrayal of faith and the decision to tear down a shrine for an aqueduct.

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🗣️ Tortured Phrases and the Fall of Elendil

The speaker mocks the convoluted dialogue in the show, particularly the phrase 'your path is made of seawater.' They discuss Elendil's decision to give up his sword and no longer fight for the queen he previously supported, leading to his arrest. The paragraph highlights the manufactured drama and lack of character development, as well as the show's failure to engage the audience emotionally with the characters' fates. The speaker also criticizes the show's misunderstanding of Numenor's religious practices and the importance of relics, suggesting that the show's portrayal is shallow and thoughtless.

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🏺 Desecration of the Shrine and the Misguided Religion

This section describes the scene where the shrine is desecrated and an aqueduct is planned to be built in its place. The speaker is critical of the show's handling of Numenor's religious practices, suggesting that the show's writers have a shallow understanding of faith. They discuss the relic of Nienna and its significance, as well as the confrontation between Amandal and Kem, which they find unbelievable. The paragraph ends with a critique of the show's portrayal of Numenor's religion and the characters' motivations.

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🎭 Lack of Emotional Investment in Numenor's Fate

The final paragraph expresses the speaker's disinterest in the happenings in Numenor. They criticize the show for failing to convey the significance of Numenor as a gift from the Valar and the people's faith in it. The speaker also comments on the show's visuals, noting that the city feels small and lacks grandeur. They express a desire for the show to have portrayed the Numenoreans as faithful worshippers of the one true God and to have shown the value of Numenor. The paragraph concludes with the speaker looking forward to future episodes and hoping for a return to the dynamic of their podcast with their co-host.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Numor

Numor, also known as Númenor, is a fictional island in J.R.R. Tolkien's legendarium, appearing in 'The Lord of the Rings' and other works. It is a central hub for the video's critique, representing a place of great significance and power within the narrative. The script discusses the portrayal of Numor in the series 'The Rings of Power', expressing disappointment with how the city and its people are depicted, particularly in terms of their faith and the political upheaval that occurs.

💡Ferzon

Ferzon is a character in 'The Rings of Power', who is portrayed as seizing power in Numor. The term is used to critique the character's motivations and actions, particularly his desire for deathlessness. It exemplifies the video's broader theme of questioning the series' character development and narrative choices.

💡Palantir

The Palantir is a seeing stone in Tolkien's universe, used for communication and prophecy. In the script, the Palantir is mentioned as a device that combines elements of communication and vision, illustrating the series' tendency to blend different elements of Tolkien's lore. The critique focuses on how the Palantir is used to create tension and destiny for the characters, such as Elendil.

💡Destiny

Destiny is a recurring theme in the script, often tied to the visions characters have of their future. It is used to discuss how characters like Muriel and Elendil interpret their visions and how these visions drive the narrative. The concept is critiqued for being overly simplistic and for reducing complex characters to mere pawns in a predetermined fate.

💡Religion

Religion in Numor is touched upon in the script, particularly in the critique of how the series handles faith and religious practices. The video discusses the importance of faith in Tolkien's world and how the series seems to misunderstand or oversimplify these aspects, leading to a lack of depth in the portrayal of Numor's culture and beliefs.

💡Elendil

Elendil is a significant character in the script, associated with themes of leadership and destiny. His actions and visions are used to critique the series' handling of character development and the weight given to prophecies and visions. Elendil's portrayal is seen as indicative of the series' broader issues with character motivations and narrative coherence.

💡Coup

The term 'coup' is used to describe the power shift in Numor, where Muriel is usurped quickly and without much resistance. It highlights the video's critique of the series' handling of political intrigue and the lack of depth in the reactions of the Numenorians to such a significant event.

💡Aqueduct

The aqueduct is mentioned in the script as part of the series' depiction of Numor's infrastructure and the city's development. The critique here focuses on the seemingly arbitrary decision to build an aqueduct through a shrine, which is used to illustrate the series' tendency to prioritize plot convenience over world-building and cultural authenticity.

💡Prophecy

Prophecy is a key concept in the script, used to discuss how characters like Farzon use predictions about the future to manipulate others. The critique centers on the use of prophecy as a narrative device, suggesting that it is employed in a heavy-handed and unconvincing manner.

💡Mystery Science Theater 3000

Mystery Science Theater 3000 is a reference used in the script to compare the series 'The Rings of Power' to the style of the show, which was known for its humorous critique of bad movies. This reference is used to emphasize the video's overall tone of playful criticism and the extent to which the series has missed the mark in terms of storytelling and world-building.

💡Unfinished Tales

Unfinished Tales refers to a collection of writings by J.R.R. Tolkien, which the script recommends for a richer understanding of Middle Earth. The mention of 'Unfinished Tales' serves as a critique of the series, suggesting that it lacks the depth and detail found in Tolkien's original works and that fans seeking a more authentic experience should turn to these stories.

Highlights

Critique of the portrayal of Numenor in the Rings of Power

Commentary on the ease of power transition in the show

Discussion about the lack of resistance to the new leadership

Mention of the Rings of Power podcast and Discord community

Critique of the pacing and storytelling in the portrayal of Numenor

Analysis of the character development of Farzon and his son Kem

Critique of the prophecy's use as a plot device

Commentary on the relationship between Muriel and Elendil

Muriel's vision of the wave crashing over Numenor

Elendil's vision and its impact on Muriel's perception of destiny

Critique of the use of the palantiri as plot devices

Discussion of the new Manorian knife buyback program

Critique of the lack of depth in the portrayal of Numenorian faith

Commentary on the misuse of religious iconography in the show

Critique of the fight scene between Amandil and Kem

Discussion of the arrest of Elendil and its implications

Reflection on the overall feelings towards the portrayal of Numenor

Recommendation to read Unfinished Tales for a richer understanding of Numenor

Final thoughts and anticipation for the next episode

Transcripts

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if your path is made of seawat you'll

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never keep your feet beneath you but

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since the sea is always right isn't that

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the right thing to do and if [ __ ] that

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does happen to her shouldn't she just

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look up and she'd

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float so numor is not my official least

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favorite uh story because there's so

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many stupid stories in the rings of

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power they're all dumb guys let's be

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honest they're all dumb uh but it's sort

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of the most land it's the one I care

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about almost the

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least just because everything is so me

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it's so mid it just I just don't care

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about it I mean last time what we had is

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we had the new manorian we had Muriel uh

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usurped in the quickest 10-minute

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usurpation of a throne ever bloodless

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and uncaring in fact no one will fight

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for Muriel it seems in this episode uh

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everybody gives up pretty easily the

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entire the entire uh

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Royal Line has been shifted and no one

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cares everyone is totally fine with it

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you know why because she's an elf lover

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that's their whole reasoning for it

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uh uh before I jump into it remember

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there okay let's get to the to to to the

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num orians num orians oh hey I don't

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ever say this on YouTube like subscribe

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tolken not the rings of power the reason

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you click is because you love tolken not

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the rings of power I just I know some of

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you aren't clicking because of that but

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but that's the reason to click because

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you love it okay so let's return to

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numor numor is

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now uh under the power of ferzon and we

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learned they do say R ferzon right there

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hey special effects look good the city's

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big uh unless you're actually in the

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streets then it's tiny and we'll see

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that again this way so farzon and uh

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Uber beta male his son I've I learned

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his name actually Kem I had to look it

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up

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kemen I think um they're

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talking and uh they finally bring up the

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desire for deathlessness farzon actually

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makes that point great good you brought

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it up about a season too

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late but what's really weird is in this

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scene uh ferzon is UN is not pleased

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with his son and he goes into this line

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about his mother prophesying kem's

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mother fison son prophesying that he

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would meet ill ends and he's like oh

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tell me more and he's like no not unless

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you do this thing for me I'm like what

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this

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is the dumbest decision the dumbest

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exmachina like oh hey there's this

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prophecy mommy had this prophecy about

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you and now I'm going to get you to do

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what I

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want that's that's the line but this guy

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right he's got the most ridiculous fa

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he's he he's the guy just want to clock

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the most right they they they if that

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was their goal man they they got the

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right actor for the

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job we move on to Muriel and endel

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Muriel and ellenel who have now a thing

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going for each other

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uh uh and she asks Ellen what did you

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see when you touched when you

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touched the paler no then not when you

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touched me because that's that's oh

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right there that's a thing too uh every

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like I said in the last episode

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everything has to have a new

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relationship or maybe it was two

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episodes ago everything has to have a

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relationship um that is the only way for

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them to create tension between

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characters and when characters are apart

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from each other they can't have a a

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relationship that is not romantic

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between anybody it seems like um just

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like here Muriel and endel are now

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having a thing so she touches his kind

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of his Mo

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armor don't get too grabby there Muriel

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it's a little dangerous between the two

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of you uh and elendel says he had a

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vision he had a vision in the paler of

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writing to somewhere so we see this

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vision of him riding off uh into right

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there into somewhere this is uh this is

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the city behind him and we don't know if

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he's riding east or west or whatever but

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he's riding to somewhere

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perhaps he's riding

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to I don't know get a paler to to save

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the white tree no that would be behind

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him I don't know what he's doing maybe

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sailing to he was G he was going to sail

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to numor or to uh

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um to valanor I don't know we don't know

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but because he tells Muriel this because

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he says I had this vision of me doing

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something that wasn't evil that n the

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world coming to an end uh remember

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Muriel's Vision was of the wave crashing

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over numor that was her vision of the

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entire that that was why she was scared

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and now she hears that uh endel has his

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vision and immediately her tone changes

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like she's like oh well you had a vision

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that's our destiny now you need to be in

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control of this Destiny and that's it

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she's totally 100% now bought into him

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being the leader I

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guess let's have a little moment of L

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again the paler you know the seeing

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Stones the things that show them things

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they've essentially combined the paler

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with galadriel's mirror where where

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froto looks into her mirror and sees

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things in The Fellowship of the

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Ring the palente here were quite

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literally communication devices created

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by

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fanor and so uh this is why elendil

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brought them or he still do right he

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brought them the the the num orians the

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the faithful brought the seven remaining

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ones to Middle Earth so that they could

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talk to each other so aror up North

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could talk to Gondor to down south so

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that we would have uh what was the name

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of the tower near hobbiton uh where

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there was one too I can't remember it

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anyway there's a tower there and so

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these seing Stones uh all of them were

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large too in fact one of them was so

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large you couldn't turn it it was I

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think the smallest one was supposed to

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be a foot foot foot in diameter so you

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know they're they're pretty big they're

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Hefty uh and the point of the paler is

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to communicate and so you would actually

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literally point it to where you wanted

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it to go paler like freaking rings in

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this show can be whatever you want it to

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be it can be the vision right and in

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fact that's all it gives people here is

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a vision at least in Peter Jackson's

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Lord of the Rings it was San

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communicating with uh with Sauron right

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that was the point of it he communicated

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with him through it in the same way that

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denior communicated with or at least saw

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Sauron in a way right there because

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Saron had

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one here it's used to create prophecies

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like we had stupid R farizon telling the

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prophecy to his son that his wife made

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now it's the prophecy of the paler right

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it is

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literally a crystal ball for the future

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that's what they've made they've dumbed

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it down into a cheap crystal ball like

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in the Haunted Mansion at at Disneyland

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where there's there's a witch's head or

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whatever into it mad oh man it's been so

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many years since I've been that been

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there you guys know what I'm talking

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about

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oh so after this we get to uh the latest

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we learned about how uh King Duran is

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now a uh um uh tax the rich Lefty uh

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here we have the new

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manorian knife buyback program so what

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we find out is that the anyone loyal to

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Muriel has to give up her their their

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weaponry and so they they all just wait

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in line because they're all totally fine

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with it they're just like yeah oh fais

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on to cover you know I went to uh to

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midar and fought for Muriel and and uh

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we we took out the Orcs there uh I'll

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give up nobody fights for her she has to

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have been perhaps the weakest possible

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Queen in all of Middle Earth nobody

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cares that there was a coup nothing is

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done like I go back to the details right

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you have to make it believable if you

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want to create a story that we uh

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entrust our mind share to that we

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entrust trust our emotions to you've got

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to make it believable and for the ones

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who are

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fighting the Grand Army of three ships

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of the num orians all these people maybe

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that's why because there were so few of

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them they they have no Army but all

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these people just they they just go in

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and they they just you know they're just

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in line to give everything back that's

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it even even ell andil just goes in and

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he's like yeah what are you doing we're

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just we're just buying everything back

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and uh he finds his who now for some

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reason is completely in the tank for AR

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ferzon and uh and she's against him

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because Muriel as she says she he she

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peeped into the stone into an elf Stone

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right because as we learned the elves

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are coming for their jobs and the one

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thing that you can find out from the

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elfstone is that the elves are coming

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for their jobs that's what she really

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cares about we I guess we didn't know

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she had a relationship with her dad at

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all so it doesn't matter that she's

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ruined it but wouldn't you think that a

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daughter who's grown up with her father

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she wouldn't throw everything aside so

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easily uh you know she says careful what

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you do and he says oh oh your path I

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love I love these these these phrases

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that are so tortured and convoluted that

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you just have to read them uh and and

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laugh so Ellen says to her your path is

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made of seawater take care to keep your

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feet Beneath You It's a Long Way to the

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bottom it feels like I could I could go

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to chat GPT or perplexity or one of

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those fun uh AIS and come up with

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something that that's um better but this

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is this is this was their first AI shot

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at it your path is made of seawater take

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care to keep your feet Beneath You It's

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a Long Way to the bottom in fact if your

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path is made of seawat you'll never keep

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your feet beneath you but since the sea

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is always right isn't that the right

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thing to

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do and if sh that does happen to her

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shouldn't she just look up and she'd

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float cuz you know boats look up that's

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why they

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float oh I love how we can take their

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phrases and

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completely abuse them by everything that

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they've said and show the the inanity

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the the the how they're trying to fit uh

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triangular shapes into circles every

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single time they make these

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phrases oh okay then ellenel gives up uh

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and instantly says you are no Captain to

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Kem our fison son who apparently this is

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his task now to take back the entire

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eight person Army that's left of newor

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uh and we have this moment where

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uh okay I'll give you my sword I'm not

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going to fight for the queen that I

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fought for earlier I'll fight the Orcs

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but heaven knows I won't fight you

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Kem and he says you are no Captain

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anymore and he says he turns around and

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he's gonna say something really

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important and he

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says you're right I'm

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not and then everybody all the people

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around him I guess they were they were

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his Shipmates they were his crew and

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they say thank you Captain thank you

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Captain thank you Captain thank you

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Captain uh it's Manu it's it's an

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attempt at manufactured uh pity

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manufactured empathy I guess there's we

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don't really care we don't know who

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anybody is except for this uh Amil and

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that's it like that's that's so now the

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Army is gone that's the entire scene so

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so now we know our is on is in control

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of everything because we saw the 12

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people giving up their

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swords that's

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it that's it okay so the second scene we

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have with

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numor uh it displays their

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misunderstanding

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of religion of numor and Faith so we get

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the scene right they're in some Shrine

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somewhere and they set off little

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candles help them to find

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it uh they set off little candles uh on

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shells I guess here it is country and

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they abuse sftr oh gosh they abuse my

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favorite line

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well one of my favorite lines sorry I

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had to think about that for a second

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when um uh a golden mist of foam siging

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on the margins of the world from uh the

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golden Hall in uh in uh Fellowship of

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the Ring is my favorite line just I had

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to put that out there uh but to to to

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take this and now to repurpose it for

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the new manorian

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okay when men die they do not go to a

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far Green Country under a swift sunrise

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in fact the point of that is that that's

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valeno

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it's not men we don't know where they go

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that was token's point the gift of men

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is death they're not stuck on Earth they

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get to move on and to be in the presence

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of a

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latar but they repurpose it because it's

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a member Barry and that's all they've

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got okay so here's my problem with the

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scene right they show they've talked

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about faith in the past they've talked

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about the things that the numenorians

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believe no oh they haven't because they

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actually haven't talked about the things

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when num orians believe that's the whole

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point endel and Muriel have a discussion

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about faith in uh second to the last or

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last episode of season one but they

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never talk about faith in what even here

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they don't really talk about

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faith the writers have no experience

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with actual Faith they think faith is

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simply an act going through a ritual

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like this truly ritual is a part of it

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and what it does is it reminds you of

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the things you believe and it sort of

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it mortars together the walls of your

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foundation of Faith but here this is the

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only thing of faith that we get it's

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shallow and it's it's kind of lame and

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then we go on and the only other thing

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that they have in this faith that we

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learn of after they have this discussion

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here about faith

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because uh Kem uh ba a male of of Middle

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Earth there the chief beta male he comes

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in and he says we're tearing down this

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joint because why guys

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why we need an aqueduct through through

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the

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shrine I I feel like the guys that the

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writers were sitting around the uh the

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writer room and they're going guys how

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are we gonna what are we going to do

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here to get rid of the the religion I to

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start making this religion a part of it

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because that was probably one of the

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things they heard it's like oh the

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numans have no religion but yet right

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they worship the one true God they're

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the only people in all of Middle Earth

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that actually had um a temple right that

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the king would go to to the top of the

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melon ofor right he would actually go

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there to worship Al

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it's the only only only people group in

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all Middle Earth that token talks about

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that so it's kind of important you would

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think that to have that there but this

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is what they give us and so in order to

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make this important they say we're

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tearing down the shrine for an aqueduct

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how old is this city at this point well

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according to them if we if we just took

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it in the middle of the second age it's

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about at least 1300 14400 years old

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probably maybe 1500 right since the

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beginning of the second age now I'm

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assuming this always happens about 1500

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years after the beginning of the second

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age so the city that's been around that

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long needs an aqueduct now in the middle

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of the of the shrine next to the water

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I'm sorry it's it's uh like I'm sure you

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could come up with the reason for it but

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just seems so silly so uh thoughtless

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like they didn't think it

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out so what does he do in order to anger

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them well there's a let me uh the um the

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relic of nienna right nienna is the

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Valor Valor of grief and

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sorrow and she gives strength and

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compassion to those in the halls of

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Manos with healing and and Compass

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healing and compassion so she gives

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strength I get this right so what she

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does is she gives strength to strength

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to the elves who are in the halls of

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Mandos um through like compassion right

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she's she's there for them she

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understands uh and kemman he just goes

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in here and he just he just you know

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he's the jerk that he is is the most the

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most uh punchable face in all of Middle

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Earth he just drops The Relic right on

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the

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floor uh cuz he's a jerk I don't like

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the idea that they have a relic that

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they were worshiping nien either I I

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like I wish they would have really tied

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into a Lou vatar okay no I don't because

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I want them to go so far feel that we

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forget this in a few years but if if

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somebody's writing about this the idea

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that relics are what's important uh is a

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little shallow to me I don't appreciate

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that I think they should have made it

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far more in fact they should have

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introduced the new manorian as faithful

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worshippers of the one true God and

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those that hold fast to the promise or

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at least you know the faithful do hold

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fast to the promise of uh the promise

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that the Valor gave them in numor and

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value that but here what do they value

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they value a small little

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Relic then we get to possibly the worst

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fight yeah no galadriel's little fight

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in in numor is bad but this is now uh

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amandil f fights with

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Kem uh and because you know uh kem's

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going to arrest ellenel so Kem goes in

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and right here look at that he's he's

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able to grab amadil the guy who was in

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the Army and drown him

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practically uh and then he randomly

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fights he's able to just you know he's

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being drowned he's being drowned and no

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he's not he can shove him

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off the the you have to actually suspect

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belief those details matters guys uh you

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have to suspend belief in order to

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actually believe that this guy Kem could

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fight amandil a warrior this guy is the

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most beta male he he's done nothing he's

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there making Grand statements without

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any backup at all why anybody would

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trust him believe him not trust him

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believe him or or give him any

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difference seems pretty silly and

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rather uh sightless right they don't

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they don't get him why would anybody

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trust like like listen to this Kem guy

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like he's done nothing why would why

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would the the soldiers be there with him

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I mean what has ferzon done to show

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anything anywhere he's had the easiest

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coup in all of history and the the

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soldiers just all give up and then they

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make the dumb move

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of right like like amandel almost kills

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him and he says don't do it son so he so

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he doesn't do it so he throws down his

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sword at the feet of kemman and then

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kemman runs and through with it with his

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back to him and then Kem has El elen

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arrested

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it's I like we don't really care it's so

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mey mouth so boring that we don't really

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care so endel is arrested but you know

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that's not going to happen and and since

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we know the story well theoretically

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unless they kill off end in new and

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interesting ways uh we know where it's

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going none of this really matters to us

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at all and and Kem this guy you really

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just don't want to see on the screen I

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don't know uh I I feel the most mid

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about this you're like I don't I just

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don't care I'm more annoyed that they

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can't they the writers just don't

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understand what faith and trust and

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religion is right why why would the why

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would the numenorians actually worship

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God why would they have a an altar why

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would they go up to the mental tarma and

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worship from there once year the kings

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of numor would do that show us that show

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us the value of that show us that numor

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was a gift from The Valor that they that

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the Everyday People value them and don't

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show us that they live in this this city

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that feels so small I mean look

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everything right here right it's a it's

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a it's an Alleyway there's nothing Grand

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about it the only Grand shots you get

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are deep and wide literally they're deep

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like it's off in the distance and

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they're wide angle so deep and wide

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reminds me of a song uh so anyway that's

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that's I I just feel so meh about

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numor um I don't care about any of it um

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and I can't make fun of it as much as I

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can The Hobbit so maybe that's why since

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since this really has become Mystery

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Science Theater 3000 uh Middle Earth

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fake Middle Earth style uh all right

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because I'm really bad with names in the

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Middle Earth uh I enjoy the world that

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was created uh that isn't the rings of

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know I will say one of the best times we

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tale and it's it's it happens between

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the years about I think it's like 700 to

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a thousand of the second age in newor so

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you really get a sense of what newor was

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like and what the kings of numor was

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Michael will be back he's moving across

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