Secrets Of The SUPER Rich - Noah Kagan's Lessons Learned from Billionaires

Summary

このスクリプトは、成功とビジネスの秘訣を探る一連のインタビューで、Noah Kaganが様々な業界の成功者たちと会話正在进行している様子を捉えています。NoahはFacebookの創業者Mark Zuckerbergや他のエリートたちとの交流を通じて、自己実現と収益を同時に達成する方法について学び、自らのビジネスやYouTubeチャンネルを通じてその知識を広める活動に情熱を注いでいます。成功の鍵は、自分自身の情熱や価値観に基づいて人生を構築することにあると-Noahは主張しており、多くの人々に夢を実現するインスピレーションを与え続けます。

Takeaways

• 🚀 ビジネスの世界では、一つの成功がすべてを変える可能性があります。
• 🌟 成功するためには、他人から何かを求めることが重要です。
• 💡 金銭的豊かな状態を作ることは、自己肯定感や自己評価を高めるために役立ちますが、それ自体が最終目的ではありません。
• 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 人生の重要な側面の一つは、家族との関係であり、その時間とエネルギーを大切にすることが重要です。
• 🧠 自分の価値観や目標を内省し、それに基づいて行動することが、個人的な成長と成功につながります。
• 🛠️ 問題を解決するために役立つツールやサービスを提供することは、ビジネスにおける成功の鍵となります。
• 🌐 ビジネスや生活において、リソースを最大限に活用し、目標を達成するための方法を見つけることが重要です。
• 📈 金銭的な成功を達成した人々は、多くの場合、時間と努力をかけて一つのことに集中しています。
• 🤔 人生の選択において、自分自身の欲求や目的を明確にすることが、最終的な満足感や成功につながります。
• 🌱 成功する企業家たちは、社会のニーズに対処する問題に取り組んでおり、その取り組みが彼らの財産を築いています。
• 🔄 人生やビジネスにおいて、継続的な学習と成長の重要性を理解し、それを行動に移すことが重要です。

Q & A

ノア・カガンはどのようなビジネスを成功させましたか？

ノア・カガンはAppsumoと呼ばれるソフトウェアツールを促销するためのビジネスを成功させました。また、Facebookの従業員番号30、mintの番号4として働く経験もあり、シリコンバレーにいる期間中に多くの成功を収めました。

ノアはなぜYouTuberとしての活動を始めましたか？

ノアはAppsumoを運営しながら、YouTubeチャンネルを通じてビジネスと収益を成長させるための教訓を共有することに興味がありました。彼は成功するビジネスオーナーとして、20年間で学んだ教訓を伝えることに興味がありました。

ノアはどのようにしてアイデアを実現させることができると考えていますか？

ノアは、人が持つ夢や目標を恐れよりも大きなものにし、それを実現するための行動を起こすことが重要であると述べています。また、自分自身をブランド化し、YouTubeチャンネルを通じて自分のアイデアを広めることも重要だと考えています。

ノアはどのようにして自分のキャリアを築きましたか？

ノアは、自分自身が成功するビジネスを築くための多くの失敗と試行錯誤を経験しました。彼は、自分自身が成功したい分野で何をすることが一番重要であるかを見つけ、それに焦点を当てて取り組むことを勧めています。

ノアはどのようにして時間の管理をしていますか？

ノアは、YouTubeチャンネルを5-10%の時間だけに限定し、残りの時間をAppsumoのビジネスや家族との時間を確保するために使用しています。彼は、時間管理の重要性を強調し、自分自身のライフスタイルを通じてそれを示しています。

ノアはどのようにしてストレスを管理していますか？

ノアは、自分自身のキャリアに対するストレスを軽減するために、目標に向かって一歩一歩進むことを勧めています。また、自分自身の欲求を理解し、それに応じて行動することでストレスを管理することも重要だと述べています。

ノアはどのようにして自分のビジネスを成功させたのですか？

ノアは、自分が本当に得意で熱心な分野でビジネスを始め、それに全力を注ぎ、多くの失敗と試行錯誤を経験しました。彼は、ビジネスにおいて何が重要であるかを学び、それを通じて自分のビジネスを成功させました。

ノアはどのようにして自分の目標を達成する戦略を立てていますか？

ノアは、長期間視野を持つことで目標を達成する戦略を立てています。彼は、焦らずに自分自身のペースで進み、小さく確かな一歩を踏んでいくことを勧めています。

ノアはどのようにして自分の価値を高めましたか？

ノアは、自分が熱心な分野で働くことで、自分の価値を高めました。彼は、自分が達成したいことを明確にし、それに向かって取り組むことで、自分自身の価値を高めました。

ノアはどのようにして他の人から学びますか？

ノアは、他の成功したビジネスオーナーやエグゼクティブから学ぶために、積極的に彼らと接触し、インタビューを行います。彼は、自分が尊敬する人から学ぶことで、自分自身の成長を促しています。

ノアはどのようにして自分のビジネスを成長させたのですか？

ノアは、ビジネスにおいて何が重要であるかを理解し、それに焦点を当てて取り組むことで、自分のビジネスを成長させました。また、彼は多くの失敗を経験し、それらから学び、ビジネスを改善し続けました。

Outlines

00:00

🚀 ビジネスにおける成功とエクセレンス

成功とエクセレンスの秘訣について話す。ノーア・カガンは、ビジネスで1つのヒットが必要なことを強調し、自分自身の成功ストーリーを交えて、どのようにしてFacebookやアプリSumoなどのビジネスを成功させたかを説明する。また、成功するためには夢や目標を持ち、それが恐怖よりも大きな夢であることが重要であると述べる。

05:01

🌟 奇跡的なビジネスの誕生

Facebookの創業者の1人であるマーク・ザッカーバーグのビジョンと決意について語る。彼は、大学時代に孤独を感じ、その問題を解決するためにFacebookを創設した。ノーアは、Facebookがどのように急速に成長し、ビジョンを達成したかを説明し、その過程で学んだ教訓を共有する。

10:02

💡 資源ある限界の中での成功

成功する最も重要な要素は、与えられた資源を最大限に活用する能力であるとノーア・カガンは主張する。彼は、自分自身や他の成功した人々がどのようにして創造的で資源を最大限に活用したかについて話す。また、成功するためには、自分自身を高めるために継続的に学び、成長する必要があると強調する。

15:04

🎯 目標に向かっての行動

ノーアは、ビジネスにおいて目的地を持つことの重要性を強調し、自分自身がFacebookで経験したことを通じて、どのように目標に向かっての行動を起こすことが成功につながるかに見せる。また、彼は、ビジネスの道を進む上で、どのようにして自分自身のビジョンを持ち、それに向かって一歩一歩進むことが重要であると述べる。

20:05

💰 金銭の意味とその使い方

ノーアは、お金の意味とその使い方について話し、お金がどのようにして人生を楽しむための道具であるかを説明する。彼は、お金をどのようにして自分自身や家族や友人との関係を豊かにし、また自分自身を誇りに思っている成就をどのように表現するかについても話す。

25:06

🌱 成長と学習の重要性

ノーアは、学習と成長の重要性を強調し、自分自身がどのようにして新しい知識を学び、それを行動に移すことが重要であるかを説明する。また、失敗を恐れず、継続的に挑戦し、成長することで、最終的に成功に近づけることを強調する。

30:07

🤝 人脈の構築と協力

ノーアは、ビジネスにおいて人脈の構築と協力の重要性を語る。彼は、自分自身がどのようにして価値ある人々に出会い、彼らと協力し、ビジネスを成功させたかについて説明する。また、どのようにして信頼性の高いパートナーシップを築き、それによってビジネスを成長させることができるかについても話す。

Keywords

💡ビジネス

ビジネスは、企業や個人が利益を得るために行う活動のことを指します。この動画では、ビジネスを通じて成功を追求することがテーマであり、成功するビジネスパーソンや起業家たちの経験や教訓を共有しています。

💡起業家

起業家とは、新しいビジネスを創設し、その成長に向けて努力する人々を指します。この動画では、起業家としての姿勢や考え方が重要であると強調されており、彼らの成功ストーリーが紹介されています。

💡成功

成功とは、特定の目標や目的を達成することを指します。この動画では、ビジネスの成功を目指す過程でのストーリーやアドバイスが中心で、成功を定義する様々な方法が説明されています。

💡学び

学びとは、知識やスキルを獲得し、それを実践することを指します。この動画では、起業家や成功者たちの経験から得られる教訓や、ビジネスにおいての失敗や課題を通じて得られる学びが重要であると述べられています。

💡自己肯定感

自己肯定感とは、自分自身に対して持つ肯定的な態度や評価のことを指します。この動画では、自己肯定感がビジネスや人生での成功にどのように影響を与えるかについて説明されています。

💡パティエンス

パティエンスとは、何かを達成するために必要な時間や努力を有耐え之心で待つ能力を指します。この動画では、ビジネスや人生での成功にはパティエンスが欠かせない要素であると強調されています。

💡アイコン

アイコンとは、特定の分野や時代において影響力を持ち、後世に残る人や物事を指します。この動画では、アイコンという言葉がタイトルにあるが、Noah Kaganは Legacyを追求するのではなく、現在の瞬間に集中することを重んじていると述べています。

💡収益

収益とは、ビジネスや活動によって得られる利益や収入を指します。この動画では、起業家がビジネスを通じて収益を上げることが重要であり、成功を評価する際の指標となることが述べられています。

💡社会影響

社会影響とは、個人や集団の行動や存在が社会全体に与える影響を指します。この動画では、アイコンたちが社会に与えた影響や、自分自身が社会に貢献することを目指すことの重要性が述べられています。

💡人生の目的

人生の目的とは、個人が人生において追求する目標や意義を指します。この動画では、Noah Kaganが人生の目的を見つけることの重要性について話しており、それは個人の幸福や成功に直接的に関連していると述べています。

Highlights

成功并非专属俱乐部，任何人都有可能实现。

创业成功的关键在于敢于尝试和持续努力。

与成功企业家共事和学习，可以吸取他们的经验教训。

成功往往伴随着对生活和工作的热爱，而非单纯的财富积累。

通过坚持不懈和积极的态度，普通人也能取得非凡成就。

创业初期，团队成员对于使命的坚定信念至关重要。

在Facebook的早期，公司文化强调专注于核心目标，忽略其他一切。

选择正确的生活伴侣对于个人的成功和幸福至关重要。

成功的企业家往往具有高度的自我驱动力和解决问题的能力。

通过不断尝试和学习，可以找到自己真正热爱并愿意为之付出努力的事业。

耐心和持久是实现长期目标的关键。

成功的企业家通常只专注于一件事情，并将其做到极致。

在追求成功的过程中，享受生活和工作的乐趣同样重要。

通过设定小目标和持续努力，可以逐步实现更大的成就。

成功的企业家往往具有强烈的好奇心和对新事物的探索精神。

成功的关键在于找到自己的热情所在，并为之全力以赴。

Transcripts

there's a lot of ordinary people being

rich and being successful and people

think it's an exclusive club and that's

just not true the crazy part about

business you only need one hit just one

the only difference is that I start NOA

Kagan is a Serial entrepreneur a

successful YouTuber co-founder of

appsumo and was also employee number 30

at Facebook and number four Min go be

around Excellence I was around the

highest standard on Earth Sean Parker

Peter teal Mark Zuckerberg Dustin

mosovich all these people are Elite when

you're going somewhere in a car you're

like of course I want a destination then

why don't we replicate that in business

and Zuckerberg did that's what I do

today he helps people start businesses

grow businesses Succeed in Business

sharing the lessons he's learned from

some of the most successful

entrepreneurs of all

time for 20 years I was just so obsessed

with creating money and getting money

and I was not really obsessed at all in

enjoying life and I'm not trying to be

like Mr Beast and be the world's biggest

YouTuber or be Zuckerberg and be a

billionaire I'm trying to be Noah Kagan

everyone should figure out how to be

themselves the icon is a show where we

learn life lessons from those who may

shape the icon in each of us today we're

talking about business success

how to make it happen and the Life

Lessons Learned From entrepreneurs who

have paved the way if you start asking

people for things you can start getting

things if you don't ask you can't get

you're just going to get what you get

you're not going to get what you want

you have to have some level of dream

that's bigger than your fear that's a

t-shirt wow no Kagan welcome to the

icons by

motiversity thank you for having me this

is awesome I'm cool to be an icon right

it feels like when did that like moment

happen where the icon label got

attached ah what out of the room my mom

was like you're destined to be on this

icon YouTube channel one day and I was

like I hope so mother there should be

like a Hall of Fame I feel like and then

you would like officially know no you

know I I would

say you know a lot of the interesting

thing about success is that it's always

externalized right it's like that person

is an icon that thing is successful

they're doing well and and I really

think it's like when do we finally feel

like we're doing what we think our

potential is and that is the our own

icon our own legendary step status and I

would say around 40 is when I finally

felt more internal validation and I

stopped focusing on and so much of the

external validation like how much money

do I have do I have more than that guy

or girl did I get more views on this

video did I do the things externally

wanting versus like am I doing really

what I want and I proud of the hard work

that I'm doing for myself and around 40

I would say I'm I'm really proud of what

I've been able to do do you think that

was an age thing or do you think that

was like literally just the Tipping

Point of you've done lots of stuff that

was pretty cool

I've done a lot of things man I've been

swinging for a long time and that's

something that's available to everyone

and I do think that's missed out on that

there's a lot of ordinary people being

rich and being successful and and people

think it's an exclusive club and that's

just not true so at 40 I think I just

finally over compounding a lot amount of

time of doing a lot of things finally

getting to the doing the things I

actually really want I felt really proud

of the things I'm doing and yes it does

seem that other people are excited exed

about all this stuff which is great you

know we as any business owner the number

one thing you're focusing on is who's

that customer that whether you're

creating a video or whether creating a

lawn mowing business or a software

business and so at

40 I felt like I've done a lot of things

that have helped enough people impacted

enough people and I was really just

proud of myself and so whether I had a

million subscribers on YouTube or a

100,00 it really wasn't as different as

me just being proud of what we're

putting out that's inspiring people on

business I'm truly just proud of our

content I'm I'm my number one fan these

days I probably I you know I watch more

of my videos than anyone else and I also

reply to the comments on my videos to

all the people who do leave comments and

that's me you know that's one of the

tests we have on in our business is are

you actually watching the stuff you make

and if if you can't answer a yes to that

like that's a really good place for us

to start in terms of where we'd go next

yeah you know it's interesting if I

think back I mean even in your intro

talking about employee number 30 at

Facebook number four at mind it feels

like you've kind of had this knack to be

in the right place at the right time and

I'm guessing that's not luck like what

do you think people Overlook when it

comes to being ready for the opportunity

when it's

there there's a lot more smarter people

out there than they give themselves

credit for the only difference is that I

start that's the biggest difference

right that I get going in it so take

Facebook I was just an RA in the dorms

you know I was at UC Berkeley and I I

was helping make sure the students there

were doing well and people sent me this

Facebook thing and you know maybe how

I'm able to be a part of these things is

one I'm also observant and I'm curious

so it doesn't mean you go chase every

fat like you know today A lot of people

are chasing content creation or they

were chasing crypto last week or they

were chasing blogging years ago and now

ai everyone's chasing and so what I'd

recommend for other people out there and

I've been able to do this literally

man I've chosen so many trillion dollar

markets uh to be around and a lot of My

Success is just cuz I'm in the market

and in the market ases well but I

curious about these things number one so

I was curious about social networking

and I was like oh that's big cuz I

got onto it and I finally I was able to

see like wow you can connect with the

entire world even though there wasn't

really the entire world at that point so

curious same with mint.com I was like

man money I think worldwide it's pretty

important I I think there's going to be

something if you have a free money tool

that's going to be big same thing then

with Facebook games that was going to be

big then I did payments for games that

was big and then I did kind of a Groupon

business which is became app Sumo that

was big then we built sumo.com that was

big which is software tool so ideally

number one you're curious so I can talk

about my crypto thing because I think

that's kind of an interesting example of

it number two how do you get a part of

it today right now not how don't worry

that you don't have a website don't

worry you don't have a big social media

presence but what can you take action on

to put yourself in that space so can you

be in a community online can you

geographically move can you start

creating in that space so I think people

are curious maybe and they they couldn't

find it but they don't necessarily try

it and understand it and they don't do

anything about it so even with crypto

got involved I heard about it in

2012 didn't do anything I thought it was

stupid and then in 2016 I had to buy an

illegal uh NFL stream that's how I got

into crypto and so I bought this illegal

NFL stream on a website seasons for

you.com and I saw the power of what this

could be and then I started buying at

that point and that's where it's now

become a multi-million dollar portfolio

and I think the biggest thing for

everyone out there is what are you doing

on your phone all day there's probably

something within there that's a billion

dollar opportunity same thing on what

you're doing outside same thing you're

watching on content uh and just being a

little bit more Curious and then taking

action around that yeah it's interesting

I mean I think that that even comes

through in your content like the

Curiosity part but also maybe just that

like boldness to take a step you know I

think about some of the interviews

you're doing with some of the most

successful entrepreneurs of all time

people who you know are billionaires

millionaires I mean it comes true pretty

clearly and and part of that's you know

being able to reach that person but I

think part of it you've just been able

to almost walk up to people and get

stuff started it's it's this like first

step ability that seems pretty cool what

are you learning from those interviews

that has surprised you the most yeah

I've interviewed there there's 3,100

billionaires on the planet whoa which is

not that many so if you need if you want

to meet one and learn from one that's a

really great cheat code of life and

they're accessible and so taking a step

back around interviewing billionaires on

our YouTube channel and then myself

running almost a hundred million doll

year business at appsumo

decom it's the power of asking is the

most powerful thing that no one is

really improving on or really getting

started on and that's available there's

no exclusivity on it so the upside of

asking is unlimited and the downside is

a moment of dis discomfort and so

everyone can ask you know I have people

come to my house all the time I have a

multi-million dollar house which is

insane I used to have really cheap

houses for pretty much 20 years and no

one ask me like what I do even my boxing

coach he comes over or the gardener

comes over or the house cleaner comes

over I'm I'm like yo what did you do to

get

this and I just think more people should

be doing that and so with the YouTube

channel really if you start asking

people for things you can start getting

things if you don't ask you can't get

you're just going to get what you get

you're not going to get what you want

and what I mean by that is if you ask

your dentist like hey you did pretty

well in school how's it going for you do

you have a wealth

manager or if you see someone that owns

a building contact that building hey uh

I just want to know how you did this and

I think you'll be surprised what you can

get and what you can learn really which

is really interesting so that's part one

the second thing with with this YouTube

channel from interviewing billionaires

and millionaires is that there's so many

different ways of getting rich I come

from Silicon Valley my my stepfather's a

software engineer my my my father came

to this country didn't speak English he

sold copier doorto door and I just kind

of thought okay I love Tech I'm going to

want to be an entrepreneur I don't have

a day job that that seemed risky to me

and I didn't I thought that everyone

else is only you can only get rich on

the computer and on these worldwide web

I didn't know how to do it but I thought

that was the only way and so through the

YouTube channel it's been so powerful

and so special there's Larry janeski

he's making $600 million a year on

basements you have this lady Jan which I

guess it's kind of funny her name is Jan

she does Jam she got rich selling

strawberries uh there's Michael hudner

who did ships there's Rafa James who did

energy trading right there's there's

such a f a phenomenal variety of people

that are getting rich outside of just

computers and I think that's so exciting

to think about hey what is the area that

I really like is it

cooking is it doing landscaping is it

computers and and the ability in that to

to create a lifestyle and a lot of money

around areas that we're interested in so

those are definitely the two major

takeaways from the billionaire

specifically that I've gone to interact

with I've worked directly for Zuckerberg

Dustin moskovitz Matt kler these are all

billionaires Sean Parker been around

Peter teal a little bit um I think the

the two biggest kind of surprises two or

three of them one they didn't set out to

become a billionaire I've heard some of

these other YouTubers like I'm trying to

make a billion dollars I was like well

the billionaires I know never tried to

they just really cared about a

problem and yes you can probably do it

way but almost all the ones I've seen

and worked with which is more than most

have really just been interested in

solving something that a billion people

or a lot of people are interested in now

the second part of that uh which is Les

talked about is that most of them didn't

get to become a billionaire Super Rich

for 20 years

and recognizing that and being like okay

cool if I can be patient and focus on

longevity I can become a millionaire

multimillionaire maybe billionaire or

Beyond and that's what it is with all

these people and lastly all of them got

rich on just one thing I see a lot of

people with day jobs I had a horrible

day job everyone's got a it's great to

have a horrible day job everyone should

get one shitty day job and one and get

fired at least once then you realize how

good you have it I'm like thank God I

don't have a boss thank God I'm not

anyone's boss I hope to never

be but all these people specifically

Zuckerberg Warren Buffett all these

people really just did one thing but

everyone who has day jobs is like I'm

going to create four passive income

streams and I'm going to

do I'm like well that's cool but with

the the crumbs of the most successful

people on the planet are just doing one

thing so I'm I'm going to probably go

over there and copy them so for myself

it's like I just do absum mod this

YouTube thing I spent about 5 10% of my

time on and absum software deals for

entrepreneurs and that's the thing I do

everything else business wise besides

that I I kind of lose money on which is

another funny story I I mean I feel like

there's so much to unpack in that I mean

even just that where you started with

questions I

think that's like you said that's the

skill that nobody talks about the but

the power of that like what that can do

in the downside with being so negligible

like it's just it's it's mindboggling

and and I think that patience thing like

just recently we interviewed um walry

botas F1 driver and I asked him what the

number one thing is that allowed him to

get where where he is and he said

patience and I thought you know this is

the fastest sport in the world and he's

saying patience like it's just like you

know what I mean like it's that thing

where if you just try hard for a long

time at one thing that can take you

pretty darn far like it's it's it's

amazing to think about that that power

of compounding almost yeah I think

people know these things we all know it

but it's hard to do it and it's been

hard to do it for a very long period of

time so one of the my newer not even

newer in the past decade let's call it

strategies is how to set less ambitious

goals you hear all these like I'd say

fake entrepreneurs or fake coaches they

they don't actually have any real

businesses uh they're like you got a 10x

today and you got a 5x if you're not 5x

and you're failing and I was like I've

done that but it's also interesting what

if you our goals now for for appsumo

decom is to grow 10% next year and it's

been that for quite a quite a lot of

time and the reality is is when you set

less ambitious goals for yourself you

can stick with them for longer cuz

you're not burnt out you're not tired

you can sustain and then by having less

ambitious goals you also have creative

freedom because you're not stressed

about hitting a Target and that gives

you the ability to create 10x

opportunities because you're like okay

cool I'm not worried about making money

in that but I can go do things that

potentially you know be moonshots and

really driw the company for the future

it's interesting that like even just

that goal setting because it is pretty

counterintuitive I mean there's that

idea of you know shoot for the moon and

or shoot for the stars I mean wherever

you land you're happy with it right I

mean it's it's it feels like I think the

Moon further than the star no stars are

whatever it is that's really big out

there I'm on Earth dude I'm not trying

to go out there I don't know these

people want to go to Mars send them out

there leave me to Earth I'll take it

it's that longevity game that just feels

like if you can do this for a long time

yeah there's not enough credit given to

people that make good decisions

consistently over long periods of time I

remember you know I worked for

Zuckerberg directly and the crazy part

about business this is kind of the

craziest part at the same time you only

need one

hit just one so as long you know with

with million dollar weekend in the book

one of the biggest breakthroughs for

people is just getting started because

Zuckerberg really has done one thing he

started

Facebook that's it everything else he

bought nothing else that guy's come up

with has been good so if you think about

that for choosing a husband or wife you

just if you could find one great one

you're done and you got to keep working

on it for a long period of time but the

same thing with business like I tried 24

different businesses to finally get to

appsumo to finally eventually get rich

right so yeah you're swinging you're

swinging but just one

works awesome but I think people don't

swing enough they don't even get started

swinging and that's you know they're

they're not ready on the sidelines and

it's there's never there's never a good

time best time is right now it's not

yesterday because I passed it's not

tomorrow because you don't know it's

right now I mean you touch on Zuckerberg

and kind of the early days of

Facebook did you do you think he knew it

back then like if I if I can just do one

thing fantastic like that's it was was

he that singular that

clear yes yes he he is exceptionally

gifted people think thinking one he's

weird as hell let's let's acknowledge

that uh he did do other businesses he

also built Facebook in a weekend without

investors without all these things so I

I I want to encourage people that it's

available and accessible worldwide for

free whether you're in India South

America Austin Texas Barcelona you know

Ed Edmonton doesn't matter it's

available the thing that me people miss

out on this is something that I had to

learn through business coaches in my own

business Journey his vision in the

beginning wasn't to create a massive

Empire it was like I want to I have a

problem I won't solve like I'm lonely at

Harvard you know like I'm alone in my

dorm room hoping to get a babe that's

that's a real talk from from him he

maybe not have said Babe he might have

said a different world and building a

website very quickly he copied someone

else he didn't even invent it right he

copied the Winkle vosses and did in a

weekend launched it sent an email to the

mailing list and it blew up now as

things get going your vision should

change because things change and so I

think that's what's also impressive

about him was

he did say like I'm going to build this

project let me see what happens and as

it was working he was very clear and

this was one of the most impressive and

great learnings I've been able to take

away from him was like as he as the

business got going about one or two

years in I I joined I joined 2005 he at

that point when we had 10 million people

he's like we're going to have a billion

people on this

site we had 10 million no one knew us

everyone thought Myspace was going to

crush us which now it's it's kind of

insane no one even knows Myspace but

think about in your own life and your

own businesses like what is the thing

you're looking forward to and excited

about and it could even be small like

one of my phrases I like is put it on

the

calendar what's on the calendar what are

you looking forward to and with appsumo

decom we have this vision of

Distributing software tools specifically

for entrepreneurs I'm like holy

people are like you want to sell I'm

like no I've got some to do it's on

the

calendar and Zuckerberg had this Vision

at the same time you know 24 he's like

I'm going to connect a billion people in

the years to come and that's exciting

and that was the only thing we focused

on done I was you know I'm a I'm a

bootstrapper I don't like investors I

don't want bosses I don't want to have

to you know do sales and things like

that cuz we you know just to get these

people a return at that time he was very

focused and I I went to him many times I

was like could we please try to make

money like I built Facebook ads I helped

build Facebook mobile I helped build

Facebook status updates which didn't

really no one really wanted which is now

the main thing on Facebook and Twitter

and all these sites but was fascinating

is that at that time of making money

he's like no we just care about getting

to a billion people and that level of

focus was so impressive especially at 24

and I think that's something that we can

all copy like what's the one destination

you're trying to get to and and when we

drive Tyler like when we're driving in

our daily lives no one ever is like I'm

just going to drive and see where I end

up no you're like I got to go to the

7-Eleven or I got to go to the mall I

don't know why am I choosing old school

stuff I got to go to the taco store I

don't know where do people go these days

I don't know I got to go to the pickle

ball court you're speaking my language

with malls I mean I'm I'm 43 so you're

you're right in the right wheel yeah you

know but the point is is that when

you're going somewhere in in in a car

you're like of course I want a

destination then why don't we replicate

that in business and Zuckerberg did and

that's what I do and that that seems to

be the the thing that works for

specifically for business probably also

for life like where do you want to end

up and how do you work backwards from

there reminds me of this as you're

talking about that getting in a car an

interview with Dan pink author of drive

and a bunch of other you know fantastic

uh best-selling books and he talking

about how you know

how hard it is to make decisions but

also how much you can trust the

decisions you can see he said when you

get in a car you know on a foggy night

on a Mountain Road you can't see the

Final Destination but you can trust that

your headlights are going to see every

corner in time and and it'll get you

there and it that's stuck with me so

dearly like I just feel like I I can't

you know I can't see three moves ahead

but I can see one and if I've got that

final destination in mind and I can

trust the corner in my headlights like

that's that's good enough to just keep

taking those steps yeah I think most

people are just still sitting and

they're they're if they want to be a

good cook they're just watching another

YouTube video on how to cook but to be a

good cook you have to eventually get in

the kitchen so you have to get going

right now and get going on these things

to be able to get there the other

approach that you know is an app Sumo

value is test and

invest so you don't have to go make big

production like all of our YouTube

videos now on our Channel cost around 20

to $30,000 per video to make you know Mr

Beast is a million or whatever for video

we're at 20,000 which I'm I'm like

that's a lot of money so if I'm only

doing two videos at 20 30,000 a video I

want to be pretty sure they work and so

how do you do that and this is what you

can apply in frankly in all parts of

life and what you were saying Tyler

which I love is how do you test it so if

you're driving don't just drive really

fast like Drive really a little slow and

just kind of see all right well it feels

like I'm on the right path and you keep

doing that same thing with YouTube

instead of putting out two videos a

month put out a video every day for 30

days or do 100 I call it the law of 100

stick to at least 100 and then make that

decision and you could test a lot of

these things and then find what works

and go more further with it most people

are like well I'm going to build an app

for 6 months I'm going to build a super

big V YouTube video I'm going to spend a

month on it put it out there no one

wants it you could have found that out

in one hour and if someone wants it

great you could do a lot more of it I

feel like I'm going to jump a little bit

over the place because there's so much I

want to get to with you one of it you

brought up a couple times like being a

boss or having a boss I mean a you've

had iconic bosses which is kind of cool

but B you know you made that jump from

having a boss to starting

businesses what's the biggest difference

between those two things you know being

employee versus running your own

thing it sounds strange but the best

employees are

founders you know I was just out of a

meeting with Shawn Sean's 27 years old

he runs an $80 million business unit at

appsumo which is the majority of the

company and I would say he's a CEO he's

a

founder

and if I had to boil it down to there's

a lot of different things and I'll give

you a specific mentality that really

works well but I would say the succcess

of a founder and success in as a if you

want to be an employee CEO within a

company is how are you being

resourceful how are you solving the goal

and the problems and the priorities with

the resources that are available most

people sit and they complain like oh I

don't have this like there's a lot of

people I'm not getting paid enough well

what are you doing about it did you put

together a proposal did you go look at

comparison analysis did you go create

more Revenue so it's obvious that people

should get pay you more uh that's

probably about the 98% 2% like Sean and

others at our team are saying here's all

the money I made for the company here's

comparables here's the salary you should

pay me and you're lucky to pay me this

cuz it's so less than I'm generating

from the business and let's do it in

this time frame it's resourceful he's

figuring it out and I I would say that's

probably if I had to boil it down to an

Essence then I'd say the success within

apps. common really if you look at all

the the best CEOs today the ones that I

admire almost all of them are

immigrants you know my father's an

immigrant didn't speak English came to

this

country uh satcha my Microsoft name

these companies I mean just most of them

the guy running Google

Sundar uh a lot of the ones I mean even

Elon Musk who is debatably a great CEO

you know South Africa and so what is it

with them that we can all learn from and

aum.com we have aiming from Iran my

father's from Israel Alona is from

usbekistan Shaun is from London uh

Vanessa is from Colombia like you know

what is it about immigrants that we can

all copy because that that is what's

what Built America was we all came here

from somewhere else and so the two

things that have really struck with me

and I saw this woman who exemplified it

her name was

Sharon and she kicked so much ass and

she was working basically at the Best

Western serving breakfast and I you know

if you have never been in Best Western

it should be called the okay

Western right it sucks it sucks but she

was working like she was at you know the

the Four

Seasons I could not believe it she's

like bringing me a pancake she's doing

all these things and she was acting like

a founder and and and an immigrant I

would say she is an immigrant and I

asked her I said you know tell me more

what's really going on she's like

there's two things it's my attitude and

it's my

effort that's what I I took from talking

with her it's her attitude because

that's in control that you're totally in

control of your attitude and that's what

I look for when I work with people and

we hire people at app.com and her effort

there's literally no restriction on

effort there's no law the only law is 24

hours besides that you can work as hard

as you want and I I think immigrants uh

have been very successful from

thinking I got to figure this out I can

work as hard as I want I'm going to do

at least my best attitude around that

and I think one of the things what

that's common especially for employees

is thinking that they can't escape being

an

employee right I I thought I couldn't

escape being middle class and through

you know it does take time patience and

belief and vision and vision sounds so

ominous but a dream a fantasy and

through that that you can create the

reality that you can move outside of

being the employee if that if that's

your dream which I think everyone should

be an entrepreneur whether that's a

millionaire entrepreneur billionaire

entrepreneur at least some type of

entrepreneur I find that that all pretty

grounding I mean that that ability to

control your attitude your effort that

oftentimes it's coming from certain

places it's coming from a um you know

Journey that might bring you to a new

country referencing something you've

come from you you you know you've got

those things in your control attitude

effort and and game

on yeah

it's pretty grounding you ever noticed

why some you ever when you think of

someone Tyler who comes to mind when

you're like that person I just know

they're going to succeed like who do you

think of when you think of that it's a

good question there's the one that's

coming to mind so uh my partner in at

motiversity is uh is Joel huok and I met

him I was you know kind of Prof type

figure at a university here consultant

he was just graduating and I remember

meeting him and feeling like if I could

buy Stu stock in somebody like this is

the person and I didn't know why but it

was just like there was something about

the way he processed problems his

attention to detail his kind of focus on

stuff the size of his vision and yeah

it's it's interesting and one of the

things that struck me as we've kind of

worked closer together it took us some

time to figure out how we were going to

partner and all those things but um he

just he's so willing to learn fast and

it feels like no matter what gets thrown

it gets convered into learning and as a

result something good is going to come

from this and so again just like over

time that shows up in pretty positive

ways but as you as you asked the

question yeah his name definitely jumped

out yeah how about you who who did you

meet that felt like no question this

person was going

somewhere yeah I I was thinking a few

things where you know for Joel is his

name

yeah Zuckerberg had a giant vision and I

do think you have to have some level of

dream that's bigger than your fear

that's that's how you can get going cuz

we're all afraid of something whether

that's a t-shirt that's like a holy wow

yeah so your dream has to be bigger than

your fear and the dream of of what

you're excited about and then the

reality is that you can actually get

going towards that dream sooner than you

realize now the second thing you

commented on Joel which is amazing is

that you said learning but what I think

of learning I think of

failing because learning is something

you you don't know like I'm learning

Spanish and all I'm doing is failing all

the time my girlfriend's like it's poor

not para no it's para not poor I'm like

I I De Mi baby I don't know but that's

failing over and over again so that you

can get to some point that is the dream

of being able to speak fluent with my my

partner I would say Sean you know you

asked who I think of this this gentleman

Shan ato.com he came in as our Junior

salesperson 21 just out of college and

in an immigrant from the UK into America

and he was willing to have a good

attitude work hard and figure out things

and over six years he went from making

I'm not going to share his salary but

his today Sal but like making I don't

know was it 42 50,000 it's a lot of

money as a 27y old and that's that's

it's his money I'm just he's just taking

it you know I'm not it's not even mine

he's creating it I think that's a great

way to think about how you can get paid

more like a lot of people in companies

are like I want to get paid more I was

like well are you making the company

more no that's why you're not getting

paid more there's a reason we were doing

bonuses

recently engineers make you know quarter

million and customer support people make

40 to

50,000 it's like okay well you you can

be an engineer or you can be a customer

support manager or you can move around

and figure out how are you creating more

value that the company then can easily

give you more of that money so yeah Shan

would comes to mind as the person who

has done that he wanted more and he took

more he didn't wait you know I would say

with him as well he's not waiting for

someone to give it to

him whether it's going to be with us

it's going to be with someone else he's

just going to take it and I'm glad that

he's a part of it with aba.com you know

you touch on money and it feels like as

I come across your content and the

conversations you're having the people

you're meeting it feels like money's

almost like a touch point in that and I

was curious why like a is it you know

the obvious um or is there something

else about like learning from those who

have figured out money that's drawn you

in do you believe everyone wants to be

rich

no not at the deepest level no no we

want to feel good about ourselves and

proud of

ourselves and in our in our in this

Society you know maybe in the alien

Society it's different but in this

Society we have determined that the

exchange of value for money is is how

we're going to

operate and for 20 years I was just so

obsessed with creating money and getting

money and I was not really obsessed at

all enjoying life and enjoying the money

and that's something when Co happened

that that trans 180 my life and I'm

grateful for it it was definitely

unfortunate for a lot of people I was

just grateful that it brought up okay

well if this is not forever how do we

enjoy this life and so a lot of my

learnings and what I do in our channel

is to Aspire inspire people to be able

to do their own things in business

journey and that doesn't mean to be a

millionaire I will say I will I will say

with 100% certainty being a millionaire

is awesome the ability to go to the

grocery store and you're like just give

me the things I want go to the go to the

supermarket and not worry paycheck to

paycheck not worry about it like I

actually instill more like okay I should

wait more to buy things let's delay that

gratification instead of just getting

everything I

want when I go to these billionaires one

of my favorite questions is how do you

enjoy money but what do you regret about

the money and almost all of them they

will say almost they either saying it or

the what they're actually saying is they

regret not spending more time with their

family and only a very few were able to

balance that

and that's something that's stuck with

me where it's the reason I left San

Francisco I didn't want to talk about

funding and employees and uh how big

your companies I don't

care I really you know what I'm

interested in is like how good is your

life like how are you with yourself not

even neily you have to be this donor

person I think that's that's that's one

way of a great life how are you to your

partner how are you to your parents how

are to your friends how are you the

people you work with and I think money

is very sensitive and I think we're

taught a lot about how to create it but

definitely there's much more there as

well how to enjoy it and different

things that people enjoy like I enjoy I

enjoy watches and bicycles and I enjoy I

enjoy having a nice house I never did

any of these things before CU I was like

I should just keep saving and saving and

saving and with Co it was like maybe let

me enjoy a little bit in the areas I'm

spending a lot of

time and those are the areas and then

watches was also just how do I how do I

how can I represent pride in

myself like what I've accomplished in

different areas so you know me and my

partner are pregnant she's pregnant I I

did the easy work you know and so I got

a Rolex with me and two other buddies I

bought three Rolexes Pepsis to honor

that and that's super cool that I can I

can do that for us and for them and uh

money enables that would I be just as

happy without it yeah but I would say

having money to be able to have a nicer

house uh be able to have a house you

know live in Spain without worrying

about the money and these type of things

makes life so much

easier yeah I mean congratulations it's

a huge life moment yeah

um you know we worked as a as humans for

hundreds of thousands of years before we

invented money I mean like it's

something else is in our DNA but it's

also this like fascinating metric this

like one thing that is pretty clear it's

pretty darn helpful and for people who

say it doesn't matter I mean you don't

need to travel very far to to prove that

wrong in lots of ways but it doesn't

mean it's the only thing that matters

and I think finding that like

combination of how does this help my

life but really at the end of the day

it's about life like it's about a great

life I think is pretty powerful and and

even you know the fact that there's that

kind of pattern of regret that you're

finding across those who have made a lot

of money that very big pattern of regret

I mean I would say that everyone should

be an entrepreneur everyone because if

you get fired today what's your backup

plan go on indeed.com and pray like

having an entrepreneurship where you can

have your own business and if you start

it right now not how you just get

started and that a lot of what what we

cover that is l a million weekend you

could do it in a weekend which everyone

has they can change your life in 48

hours you have the option and a lot of

people let's take appa.com we have a lot

of people who have very successful side

businesses and they're happy with their

day jobs and that's great and there's

other people like myself that were

always frustrated having a day job and

so I wanted to create work that I didn't

have to work at and I do believe there's

a a misconception and something that

most people get wrong is that you can't

do what you enjoy or passion or dream

about and make a lot of money doing it I

don't believe

that I mean this is I was starting to

wonder as I was looking into your story

Why YouTube like you've already had

success you've already done lots of

things if you wanted to write off in the

sunset like you've already figured that

out so why pour your time and I'm get

I'm hearing you know it's 10% of your

time but why pour it into sharing this

message with other people I'm fascinated

by that

choice

yeah I like it that's it

you know I've been doing social not

social necessar it wasn't even social

back then it was just alone

media solo media since

2000 and I love it I love putting

material out there generally around

starting businesses I love who it

connects me with because I'm social and

and putting myself public I can meet all

these really interesting people and that

and whether you're getting going or

you're established you can get that H

you can make that happen I even connect

probably more than people would expect

with up andc comers I call them pre

fluenc I just love connecting with

people who are the the Next Generation

cuz that's where I get it learned from

and yeah I I talked to my wealth

advisers this year and they're like you

know you never have to work again and

you could you could pay you get 20,000 a

month for the rest of your life and I

was like what am I dying is this next

year or is this is this longer you you

guys want me to die soon like no no no

you can live you know let's say 80 90 I

was like I'm going to try to live to it

forever but we let's take a

100 and I think that's a great way to

approach

life where if didn't have to work what

do you want to work on and my days are

pretty much set like that where mornings

I don't do till 12:00 so I can't

work or I can do nothing A lot of times

I read Journal hang out with my

girlfriend play Pinball I got an arcade

upstairs which is awesome it's it's

unbelievable I'm like I we should all

feel lucky by the way whether you're

super rich or low rich or starting rich

like if you zoom out of your lives it's

awesome you can breathe you have hot

water you have microwaves like our lives

are so much better than we this is

something I've struggled with for 20

years that's why I'm sharing the message

that our lives are so much better than

we realize and that sucks if you're if

you're small rich I don't like saying

poor small Rich then you're like ah well

I'm not rich yet and it's like well just

take a step back and how how's

everything really going just take a take

an evaluation you're healthy you can

walk you can use a toilet you can pick

up your pants like there's a lot of good

things going on and so coming forward

with that if if you don't have to work

what do you want to work on and then how

do you create some money out of doing

that and eventually yeah I can I get

paid promoting deals at great prices

that I can use myself that's great

and the same thing goes with YouTube

where yeah there there wasn't a thing

where I want to build a brand and I need

a bigger egoo uh I I think one of the

most powerful things that we can all

work on is how do we have enough and for

me with YouTube it was just like I got

excited to put out videos and I didn't

do it with a videographer I didn't do it

in a studio I did it with my camera

shirtless right and I'm not trying to be

like Mr Beast and be the world's biggest

YouTuber or be Zuckerberg and be a

billionaire I'm trying to be Noah Kagan

never should figure out how to be

themselves and so being myself I like

making content I like getting to meet

John Paul Doria I like trying to do some

stupid challenges sometimes I like doing

them sometimes I don't I'm always proud

of myself afterwards and it's something

that I I get excited connecting with the

audience and seeing them be inspired in

their own Journeys and it's just been a

great process so now you know I talked

about a million dollar weekend if people

are interested in that getting going now

and how do you stick law of 100 do 100

videos and then you can quit and what

happens after 100 you're like ah maybe I

don't want to quit and that's what I did

and for myself now and this is what we

talked about with billionaires early on

I'm trying to do 10 years of

content so I want to do this for 10

years most if you ever see like content

creators most of them give up really

early they give up after like one video

or the super popular people give after

three three years or maybe and they're

like ah I just I was tired of making

videos for others it's like well start

making videos for yourself and I'm

really excited about the content we make

you know we're trying to uh today I got

I saw that the In-N-Out founder is this

woman I'm like super excited or Sheila

Johnson the founder of bet I'm like oh

that's super cool let's go talk to her

can we make that happen I want to talk

to Dave pornoy guy's a psycho seems

super interesting and by the way you

know I have these dreams we have these

visions of who we want to meet and it

takes a lot of time in sticking with it

and persisting you know with asking and

asking and asking just like I teach in

the book to eventually get them and at

the end of day if people want to think

about what they want to do with their

lives you know we ask about YouTube what

do you want to work on for free work on

it really hard

and and no matter what if the outcome's

not your trillionaire you're getting a

lot of views or no views generally

you're pretty proud of yourself and I

look at our videos over the past two

years I'm like damn I'm proud I'm just

proud of our team I'm proud of the the

customers and audience that likes to

enjoy our content so one thing that

anyone could do right now go to your

phone and just scroll scroll down two

years and look where you were and every

time people do that they'll be like holy

I'm so much better than I was and I

like that with my YouTube stuff where I

look two years ago I'm like oh that was

cool and I'm really proud of where we

are now and it's exciting to think where

I'll be in the next two years so in in

general it's just I like

it do you do you feel like you I mean

you talk about that kind of you know

most billionaires you know focused on a

problem when you look back through the

you know you said you've been creating

content since 2000 like do you feel like

there's one problem that's kind of tied

all your stuff

together so long 23 years most of your

viewers are not as old as my

content

um you know and and this is the thing

that's it's really relevant for

especially if you're getting started

right I dis wrote I wrote about the

girls I was meeting and my friends in

high school on my blog my blog now is

nen.com but it was called okor and I was

just writing I just got

started and I enjoyed it I was like and

by the way if you don't want to be

putting in public which I think everyone

should you could be behind the scenes in

public so jery who ran the channel from

100 to a million Subs you don't ever see

his face once or twice and he likes that

and now he's building a 67 figure agency

helping others do it and so for me it

took time to get to find what worked in

YouTube now but even with my content in

general uh it was starting in 2000

writing about I love import cars so one

of my businesses was Evers speed.com

still alone the domain and I just liked

import cars and import car girls so I

would like go to the shows and take

photos and put them online made a little

bit of money maybe $100 but I was like

okay let me keep posting these

things and by doing all that eventually

led me to figure out okay how what do I

like to do in my career by trying a lot

of stuff out I found that the the

underlying free line this is what I like

to call is my free line what am I going

to do for free is promoting things I am

a promoter like people ask me like hey I

have this Pharmacy website how did you

promote it I was like I wouldn't because

I don't know about Pharmacy and I

don't care this guy uh two weeks uh two

weeks ago I helped him start a golf

business I don't care about golf I care

about margaritas so if he's starting a

margarita business I can help him but

golf business I was like I can help you

you should always start businesses in

your zone of influence in the problems

you're excited about and see who you

have access to to make yourself easier

for you to succeed and so coming back

from my own Journey was going doing

operations at Intel which sucked then I

did product management I was like a this

is kind of okay but I don't like you

know working for someone else then I did

marketing at mint even though I never

did marketing before and then I noticed

that every time I'm doing things it's

really just like getting the word out

about things I like and that's available

for everyone to figure out for

themselves so you can just think what

would I do for free tomorrow if I could

do anything or if I have $10 million in

my account what am I going to do and

then just make that your career

and that's what my career is and it took

time to get there though and I I think

that again coming back full circle it

does take patience to find out the

things we want to do I you know if we're

not an expert day one we're like ah it's

too hard it's like no it's day one give

it some time yeah that combination of

get started and patience I just think

like that's like ringing in my in my

mind you talked about Zuckerberg getting

started you know in a

weekend what was it like I mean go back

to the early days of Facebook like what

was like the thing that would would

shock us the most or kind of surprise us

the most whether it's like actually

shocking or just something about the

experience that what was it like back in

Facebook I'm trying to think what would

be most

shocking there's a lot of shocking

things but probably the most shocking

was just how much conviction we all had

about the

mission all of us I don't know if I

would kill people but I would have gone

to jail for a long time for

Facebook and that was everyone who was

there we were willing to kill for what

we were doing you know we're not Navy

sales we're a bunch of tech nerds you

know that could barely do nothing and uh

there's a lot of crazy stuff around it

but really I would say what was most

shocking is just how con convicted we

were about what we were working on and I

think that's something to think about

for everyone like do you care a lot of

people that work at abo.com love

entrepreneurship they strongly believe

that everyone can be an entrepreneur and

we can provide accessibility through

great software deals that anyone could

buy a great tool to help them with their

business doesn't be so

prohibitive and I think that that's you

know anyone could copy that whether it's

in a you know restaurant whether it's in

a making candies whether it's a software

business whether it's e-commerce

whatever that is content you know if you

look at some of the people who create

content that like Mr bees I will say I

give him a lot of credit for that that

guy loves making

content uh and there was crazy stuff at

at Facebook at the time I mean some of

the crazy stuff Zuckerberg was ahead of

his time and uh you know we he paid they

paid for all of our parking tickets cuz

he's like I don't care like it's more

valuable for you to be at the computer

than we're about where you parked they

just paid for all of our tickets and he

would do a lot of things like that where

you know maybe the crazy part is like

what's really your goal and how are you

really ignoring everything else and if

the goal is to get to a billion users

which was our goal Let's ignore

everything else at all cost so he did

they had free laundry they paid for your

housing if you lived within five miles

paid for free tickets free food free

drink which was it was early for people

to do that now it's more common but it

was how do we remove everything except

what's important at all cost and no

exception and he was ruthless around

that I'd say the other thing that was

probably most shocking and I I I in your

20s especially or if you have the

ability like go be around

Excellence like I was around the highest

standard on Earth in specifically in

business at a very young age and I feel

very lucky to be there Shawn Parker

Peter teal Mark Zuckerberg Dustin

moskovitz Mark andreon was an investor

uh the guys from Benchmark uh who's it

Charlie chever

Andrew Bosworth Adam

D'Angelo GL all these people are Elite

Aaron um GLE celeo like these people are

the best in the world and figure away

whatever it takes whatever it takes this

again we come back to resourcefulness to

be around that and understand what the

standards can be and there is something

beautiful about how much higher that you

can hold yourself to higher stand just

understanding what levels of Standards

there

are and I'm talking standards of like

how much they care about the font the

fact that Mark would go through the

website and he'd find a a link incorrect

on the help section at 3 am. and send it

to you and you'd be like all right let

me get that fix right now wow I mean the

I think about the environment you were

in the opportunities around lessons you

had to

learn what's what's the hardest lesson

you've learned I mean at the time for it

was about a 10year depression is that

everyone's

replaceable I was grateful to learn that

early on my life that was a very hard

lesson to learn that we all think that

we're special and that you know if you

have a day job that can be taken away

from you and I lived with six people my

phone was Facebook my friends were

Facebook and to have that all removed to

go back I worked at Intel before and I

moved back in on my friend's couch who

worked at Intel and I felt really

ashamed and that that was the moment I

would never again let that happen

wow that was hard yeah think a lot about

the difference between like a job in

your life's work and a job that can be

given to you and taken away by someone

else versus that thing that you want to

do that nobody can take from you and you

can give yourself full permission

on you know you spoke about 40-year-old

Noah what about 20-year-old Noah like

what advice would you give your

20-year-old self yeah hey there little

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uh a few

things I would focus a lot more on

positive selft

talk I I was very externally validating

like Facebook fired me I'm so angry I

suck these guys are better I'm never

going to make it how am I going to get

rich I'm not rich yet everyone else is

Rich so I really would have liked more

optimism and just positive selft talk

and how do how you can do that now is

that anytime you criticize yourself say

a positive thing this is borrowed from

my buddy tinan and he's something I've

worked on by 40 so if you're like oh I

sucked at this thing why don't you you

could say that that's good to say fine

the next thing you say is oh I'm

learning learning that's okay you're

learning hey you didn't do a good job

with that okay well I can do better next

time great just more and you do that

over time and time again that builds up

your self-confidence and your selfworth

so that would be number one see number

two would be patience and optimism again

optimism so just

patience we're so all these cliches are

so true like oh the destination not the

journey you know don't worry about and

and I was like shut up dude I'm poor and

I want to get rich so I don't care about

your your shitty joury

journey and I made it much harder on

myself and more frustrating when that is

the whole experience the whole

experience is the journey and so I would

have liked to been hey you have a vision

you have optimism that it'll work out

you're talking positively let's be

patient that you will get there and I I

do think I ended up at similar

destination regardless but I definitely

made it a lot more un unsatisfactory

along the

way I think the last thing I would tell

myself is and probably more surprising

as well is the importance of partner

selection so your mate selection

specifically I never took myself very

seriously and I never took that

seriously as well where I just dated

whatever I got I didn't dated what I

wanted and so I wasted a lot of time

around that so for 20-year-old Noah be

talk more talk more positive to yourself

be patient and have be optimistic around

the future that'll work out and be more

intentional about what you want and who

you're dating think I would just be like

oh you'll date me sure I'll take it

please don't leave me and then I like

got older I was like what do I really

want not what I what am I getting and

the best way to get what you want you

got to ask so I ask for a woman and

she's amazing but that that took time

and I would have I would have preferred

doing it in 20s and 40s but I'm glad I

got there now you know you talk about

full circle we started with kind of

40-year-old Noah we're talking about

20-year-old Noah the you know externally

validated all sorts of stuff and

somewhere between that you know came up

this word icon that you know you've

you've done something extraordinary for

a long

time shaping an industry and I think you

know what we get to ask icons is what do

you hope your legacy

is

yeah I don't believe in

Legacy I know I know you want an answer

and I'll make one up but I just don't

believe in it what I think the question

that's that's powerful for me is like if

there's no Legacy then how should I

behave while I'm

here right and I think a great way to

live life where if there's not going to

be some bench that people you know a

bird shits on with my name on a

plaque and all the things I do are

erased afterwards how do I do my best

while I'm on this planet now I think one

way that everyone can think about it for

themselves is that if you want a legacy

which is I think the best way to leave a

legacy is how are you leaving a

blueprint of how you behave and your

preferences so that other people can

replicate it so at abs.com we have a

thing called Mom Master operating manual

and the same thing for the YouTube

channel so this is are the ways that

whether no is around how we do our

annual planning this is how we behave as

teammates this is how we test things

this is how we double down on things and

so for the Legacy I'd love to leave some

blueprints for the way I've lived my

life that ideally if others are

interested in it that's what a million

dollar weekend is for business like if

you're interested in making a lot of

money and getting going soon without

spending a lot of time and money on it

like this is my blueprint uh so that

would be around the legacies I want to

live

I mean I think I think that's the

answer that I was hoping for that real

answer that feels like that's that's how

you make sense of this word and and to

not believe in it but to pour your

energy into this moment is really

clarifying you know for the guy who was

number 30 at Facebook number four at

mint starts two massive

companies has touched millions of lives

around the world it's a big question to

ask but what's next

what is next is more of the

same as I've turned 40 I'm less obsessed

with what's new and I'm more obsessed

with what

works and so what's next is more of the

same and what I mean by that is is that

I love running appa.com there's a lot

more software tools we can help promote

for entrepreneurs this book comes out

million dollar weekend and you know I do

think if people want to start businesses

they'll be able to to do that and I Look

to spend some of my time uh making

YouTube videos that 5 10% a week I love

doing that but i' would say the biggest

next is my family so reducing the amount

of time on all these things so that I

can be present as a father so more of

the same and really reducing time

delegating so that mornings and frankly

whenever and luckily being an

entrepreneur like I want to be available

for my partner and for our kid as much

as I

can not even as much I can as much as I

want maybe it maybe I won't want it I

like dude these guys are these kids are

tough o v I'm going to hire a lot of

Staff practice my leadership skills but

no really just uh I had I did have great

parents my father was in and out and so

I want to be able to be the parent my

dream parent but the combination of all

my parents plus some uh and be able to

be that no Kagan I feel like I've

learned a lot from this conversation I

want to thank you for joining us thanks

for having

me