Trump and Johnson press conference makes ‘no sense’: Officer who defended Capitol during Jan. 6

MSNBC
12 Apr 202406:43

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses a conversation with a former U.S. Capitol Police officer, who is critical of certain political figures' actions and rhetoric surrounding the January 6th Capitol insurrection. He emphasizes the importance of truth and accountability in the wake of misleading statements and the need to honor the officers who defended democracy.

Takeaways

  • 🗣️ The interviewee, a former U.S. Capitol Police officer and co-author of 'American Shield: The Immigrant Sergeant Who Defended Democracy,' criticizes Speaker Johnson for attempting to rewrite history.
  • 🤝 The officer accuses Johnson of carrying water for the former president, suggesting his actions are more about political positioning than election integrity.
  • 🎤 The former officer emphasizes the importance of speaking out about the events leading up to, during, and after the election, and the need to hold elected officials accountable.
  • 🔍 'The Washington Post' fact-checker's analysis reveals that since Donald Trump started running for president against Joe Biden, he has made 30,000 misleading or outright false statements.
  • 📈 The belief in 'the Big Lie' is highlighted as a factor that fueled the events of January 6th, with 38% of Republicans polled believing it.
  • 🛡️ The interviewee calls out politicians like Mike Johnson and Kevin McCarthy for selectively claiming to support police officers but not taking meaningful actions to honor them.
  • 🎤 The former officer clarifies that his participation in press conferences is not an endorsement of President Biden, but rather an opportunity to share his experiences and seek truth.
  • 🥺 Only two elected officials, Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, are mentioned as having the courage to meet with the officer and listen to the experiences of January 6th.
  • 🚨 The officer warns that the events of January 6th could potentially happen again, emphasizing the danger posed by the rhetoric used by the former president and his supporters.
  • 🛠️ The interviewee is actively involved in legal proceedings, testifying and holding accountable those who assaulted him and other officers during the insurrection.
  • 🏛️ The commitment to protecting the Capitol and all its members, regardless of political views, is underscored, highlighting the non-partisan nature of the duty performed by the police on January 6th.

Q & A

  • What is the main theme of the transcript?

    -The main theme of the transcript revolves around the criticism of certain political actions and rhetoric following the events of January 6th at the U.S. Capitol, with a focus on the perspectives of a former U.S. Capitol Police member and co-author of the book "American Shield: The Immigrant Sergeant Who Defended Democracy".

  • What is the speaker's view on Speaker Johnson's attempts to rewrite history?

    -The speaker is critical of Speaker Johnson's attempts to rewrite history, believing that Johnson is carrying water for the former president instead of focusing on election integrity.

  • What was the significance of the former president's visit to Mar-a-Lago to meet with Donald Trump regarding election integrity?

    -The speaker suggests that the visit was not genuinely about election integrity but rather seemed to be planning for a future rally, potentially inciting further events like the January 6th incident.

  • How does the speaker feel about the rhetoric used by the former president?

    -The speaker is critical of the former president's rhetoric, stating that it led to the events of January 6th and that it continues to undermine the democratic system.

  • What percentage of Republicans believe the 'big lie' according to the Washington Post fact checker?

    -The Washington Post fact checker found that 38% of Republicans believe the 'big lie', which is what fueled the January 6th events.

  • How does the speaker aim to combat the spread of false statements and misleading information?

    -The speaker aims to combat false statements by speaking the truth about the events that occurred before, during, and after the election, and by holding elected officials accountable.

  • What does the speaker criticize Mike Johnson and Kevin McCarthy for not doing?

    -The speaker criticizes Mike Johnson and Kevin McCarthy for not genuinely supporting police officers, despite claiming to do so, and for not authorizing a plaque to honor the Capitol Police officers who defended the Capitol on January 6th.

  • Why did the speaker appear at a press conference ordered by the Biden campaign?

    -The speaker appeared at the press conference not because he aligns himself with President Biden, but because it provided an opportunity to share his story and experiences from January 6th.

  • What is the speaker's concern regarding the events of January 6th happening again?

    -The speaker is concerned that the events of January 6th could happen again due to the continued support for the former president and the lack of acknowledgment and accountability for the actions of that day.

  • How does the speaker describe the actions of the former president on January 6th?

    -The speaker describes the former president's actions on January 6th as sending a mob to kill the elected officials in the Capitol, undermining the democratic process.

  • What does the speaker emphasize as the primary motivation for his continued public statements and actions?

    -The speaker emphasizes that his primary motivation for continued public statements and actions is the pursuit and sharing of the truth about the events of January 6th and holding those responsible accountable.

Outlines

00:00

🗣️ Criticism of Political Rhetoric and Accountability

This paragraph features a conversation with a former U.S. Capitol Police member and co-author of the book 'American Shield: The Immigrant Sergeant Who Defended Democracy.' The discussion revolves around the criticism of Speaker Johnson for his attempts to rewrite history and his travel to Mar-a-Lago to meet with Donald Trump regarding election integrity. The former officer expresses concern about the continued use of rhetoric that led to the events of January 6th and emphasizes the need to hold elected officials accountable. The paragraph also touches on the findings of 'The Washington Post' fact-checker, highlighting the number of misleading or false statements made by Donald Trump and the impact of the 'Big Lie' on the January 6th incident. The conversation further addresses the selective support of police officers by certain politicians and the lack of meaningful gestures to honor the Capitol Police.

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📢 Upholding Truth and Police Protection

In this paragraph, the former U.S. Capitol Police officer continues to emphasize the importance of truth-telling and accountability. He explains that his motivation for speaking out and attending press conferences is not political alignment but rather a commitment to sharing his experiences and holding those responsible for the assault on the Capitol accountable. The officer details the number of people who personally assaulted him during the line of duty on January 6th and his efforts to seek justice through the courts. He also addresses the issue of politicians using police officer events as political pawns, reiterating that the Capitol Police protected all members of Congress regardless of their political views during the January 6th events. The officer expresses his willingness to share his story with Republicans as well, but notes their lack of interest in the truth.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Chaos

In the context of the video, 'chaos' refers to a state of extreme confusion and disorder. It is used to describe the tumultuous events that unfolded, particularly in relation to the U.S. Capitol on January 6th. The keyword illustrates the severity of the situation and the breakdown of order that the speaker and others faced during that time.

💡Dynamics

The term 'dynamics' here refers to the interactions and forces within a group or system that produce change or activity. In the video, it is used to describe the complex interplay of various factors and individuals during the events of January 6th, including the balance between different roles and responsibilities.

💡Capitol Police

The 'Capitol Police' refers to the law enforcement agency responsible for protecting the U.S. Capitol building, its grounds, and the members of Congress. In the video, the speaker is a former member of the Capitol Police and shares his experiences and perspectives on the events of January 6th, highlighting their role in defending democracy and the challenges they faced.

💡Election Integrity

The concept of 'election integrity' refers to the trustworthiness and fairness of an election process. In the video, this term is discussed critically, as the speaker questions the motives of certain political figures who he believes are using the rhetoric of election integrity to further their own agendas, rather than genuinely addressing concerns about the electoral process.

💡Rhetoric

In this context, 'rhetoric' refers to the use of language and discourse to influence opinions and actions. The speaker is concerned about the divisive and harmful rhetoric used by certain political figures, which he believes contributed to the events of January 6th and continues to undermine democratic institutions.

💡Accountability

The term 'accountability' refers to the responsibility of individuals, especially those in positions of power, to be answerable for their actions and decisions. In the video, the speaker emphasizes the need for elected officials to be held accountable for their actions, particularly in relation to their support or opposition to the events of January 6th and the subsequent response.

💡Police Support

The concept of 'police support' refers to the backing or endorsement given to law enforcement officers in their duties and challenges. In the video, the speaker discusses the selective nature of this support, particularly from certain Republican elected officials who claim to support the police but, according to the speaker, do not act in ways that truly honor or support them.

💡Political Pawns

The term 'political pawns' refers to individuals or groups that are manipulated or used by others for political gain. In the video, the speaker expresses concern that the events involving police officers and the assault on the Capitol are being used as political pawns by certain politicians to further their own interests, rather than addressing the underlying issues.

💡Truth

The 'truth' in this context refers to an accurate and honest representation of events and facts. The speaker emphasizes the importance of truth-telling, especially in the face of misleading or false statements. He is driven by a commitment to sharing his firsthand experiences and the reality of what occurred on January 6th, regardless of political affiliation.

💡January 6th

The term 'January 6th' refers to the date on which the U.S. Capitol was attacked in 2021. This event is central to the video's narrative, as the speaker is a former Capitol Police officer who defended the building on that day. The keyword is used to discuss the events of that day, the response to it, and the ongoing implications for American democracy.

Highlights

Discussion on the chaotic dynamics and balancing acts in American politics with two men standing side by side.

Interview with a former U.S. Capitol Police member who defended the Capitol on January 6th and co-author of the book "American Shield: The Immigrant Sergeant Who Defended Democracy".

Criticism of Speaker Johnson for attempting to rewrite history regarding the events of January 6th.

Concerns about Speaker Johnson's travel to Mar-a-Lago to meet with Donald Trump regarding election integrity.

The former Capitol Police member's view that carrying water for the former president instead of focusing on election integrity is problematic.

The Washington Post fact-checker's analysis finding that Donald Trump has made 30,000 misleading or outright false statements since running for president against Joe Biden.

The belief of 38% of Republicans in the 'big lie' which fueled the events of January 6th.

The importance of speaking the truth and holding elected officials accountable for their actions.

Claims of selective support for police officers by certain politicians like Mike Johnson and Kevin McCarthy.

The lack of meaningful gestures, such as authorizing a plaque to honor Capitol Police officers, from politicians who publicly claim support.

The former Capitol Police member's recent appearance at a press conference ordered by the Biden campaign and the reasons behind it.

The former Capitol Police member's motivation for speaking out and the concern that the events of January 6th could happen again.

The lack of Republican elected officials willing to listen to the experiences of January 6th, except for Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.

The former Capitol Police member's recollection of the fear and danger experienced by politicians during the Capitol attack.

The former Capitol Police member's commitment to truth and justice, including testifying in court against those who assaulted him and his colleagues.

The former Capitol Police member's willingness to speak to any political party that is interested in the truth.

The importance of protecting the Capitol and its occupants, regardless of political views or ideologies.

The criticism of politicians using police officer events as political pawns.

Transcripts

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DEVOLVE INTO UTTER CHAOS.

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A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIEYNAMICS,

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BALANCING ACTS AS WE SEE THESE

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TWO MEN STANDING SIDE BY SIDE.

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>> THANK YOU FOR THAT.

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>>> FORMER MEMBER OF THE U.S.

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CAPITOL POLICE WHO DEFENDED THE

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CAPITOL ON JANUARY 6th AND

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COAUTHOR OF THE BOOK "AMERICAN

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SHIELD THE IMMIGRANT SERGEANT

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WHO DEFENDED DEMOCRACY," IT'S

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GOOD TO HAVE YOU ON THE A

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PROGRAM.

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YOU HAVE BEEN CRITICAL FOR

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SPEAKER JOHNSON FOR WHAT YOU SAY

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ARE HIS ATTEMPTS TO REWRITE

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HISTORY.

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I WONDER WHAT YOU MAKE OF HIM

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TRAVEL TO GO MAR-A-LAGO TO MEET

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WITH DONALD TRUMP ABOUT ELECTION

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INTEGRITY?

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>> YOU KNOW, CARRYING WATER FOR

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THE FORMER PRESIDENT INSTEAD OF

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ELECTION INTEGRITY, IT SEEMS TO

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ME, PLANNING FOR THE NEXT STOP

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THE STEAL RALLY AT THE CAPITOL

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ON JANUARY 6th, NEXT YEAR.

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UNFORTUNATELY HE'S A PERSON THAT

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CONTINUED TO USE THE SAME

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RHETORIC THAT LED TO JANUARY

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6th.

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IT MADE NO SENSE FOR HIM TO HOLD

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THIS PRESS CONFERENCE WHEN HE

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KNOWS BETTER THAT THE LAST

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PERSON THAT NEEDS TO TALK ABOUT

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ELECTION INTEGRITY IS THE FORMER

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PRESIDENT WHO UNDERMINED EVERY

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CAPACITY, OUR INSTITUTIONS FOR

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THE DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM.

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>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THIS,

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SERGEANT, BUT THIS WEEK "THE

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WASHINGTON POST" FACT CHECKER,

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THEIR WHOLE DEPARTMENT THERE,

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DID AN ANALYSIS, AND THEY FOUND

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THAT SINCE DONALD TRUMP STARTED

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RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THIS TIME

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AGAINST JOE BIDEN, HE HAS MADE

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30,000 MISLEADING OR OUTRIGHT FALSE STATEMENTS.

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FALSE STATEMENTS.

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AND THE NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS TO

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38%, THAT BELIEF, THE BIG LIE IS

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WHAT FUELED JANUARY 6th.

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SO HOW DO YOU FIGHT AGAINST

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THAT?

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>> I MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE

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REASONS WHY I JOINED, TO SPEAK

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THE TRUTH, TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT

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HAPPENED ABOUT THE THINGS THAT

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BEGAN BEFORE THE ELECTION, WHAT

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HAPPENED DURING AND AFTER, AND

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WE NEED TO HOLD THESE ELECTED

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OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE.

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THE OTHER DAY MIKE JOHNSON, HE

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JUST LIKE KEVIN McCARTHY, CLAIMS

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TO SUPPORT THE POLICE OFFICERS

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SELECTIVELY.

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HE HAS NOT.

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TO THIS DAY, LIKE KEVIN McCARTHY

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HAD NOW AUTHORIZED AND HELD A

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COMMITTEE, A PLAQUE HONORING

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OFFICERS FROM THE CAPITOL

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POLICE, BUT YEAH, THEY GO IN

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FRONT OF THE CAMERAS AND SAY

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THEY SUPPORT THE ORDER, THE

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POLICE AND WHATNOT.

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BUT THEY DON'T.

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A MEANINGFUL GESTURE, THE LEAST

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THEY COULD DO IS AUTHORIZE THE

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PLAQUE TO BE HONORED AND PLACE

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AT THE CAPITOL ENTRANCE WHERE I DEFENDED THE CAPITOL THAT DAY.

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DEFENDED THE CAPITOL THAT DAY.

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>> CONVERSELY, YOU WERE RECENTLY

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APPEARED AT A PRESS CONFERENCE

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ORDERED BY THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN.

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THERE MAY BE CRITICS WHO SAY YOU

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OBVIOUSLY ARE SUPPORTING.

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WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM ABOUT

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YOUR MOTIVATION, AND I WOULD

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LIKE YOU TO ADD TO WHAT YOU JUST

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SAID WHICH IS YOUR CONCERN THAT

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THIS JANUARY 6th THAT HAPPENED

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IN THE LAST TIME COULD HAPPEN

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AGAIN?

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>> I MEAN, THE REASON WHY I HAD

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GONE TO THE PRESS CONFERENCES IS

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NOT BECAUSE I ALIGN MYSELF WITH

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PRESIDENT BIDEN.

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HE'S ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAS

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GIVEN ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO TELL

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MY STORY.

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HOW MANY REPUBLICAN ELECTED

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OFFICIALS HAVE SAT DOWN WITH ME

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WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LIZ CHENEY

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AND ADAM KINZINGER.

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THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO

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INDIVIDUALS, ELECTED OFFICIALS

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WHO I RISKED MY LIFE FOR ON

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JANUARY 6th, TO DEFEND THEM, AND

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NOBODY ELSE BUT THEM TWO HAD ITT

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COURAGE TO SIT DOWN WITH MYSELF

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OR MY COLLEAGUES AND LISTEN TO

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THE EXPERIENCES THAT WE DID ON

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JANUARY 6th TO GIVE THEM THE

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CHANCE TO ESCAPE, TO RUN FOR

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THEIR LIVES.

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BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THEM,

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JANUARY 6th DID NOT HAPPEN.

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IF IT DID HAPPEN, IT WAS NOT AS

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BAD AS WE SAY, BUT ON JANUARY

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6th, THEY WERE RUNNING FOR THEIR

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LIFE IN FEAR FROM THE MOB THAT

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THE FORMER PRESIDENT HIMSELF

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SENT TO KILL THEM.

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THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE DID.

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AND HERE WE ARE, THREE YEARS

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LATER, SUPPORTING HIM AS A

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CANDIDATE.

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THEY SEEM TO FORGET THAT THEY

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WERE RUNNING FOR THEIR LIVES ON

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JANUARY 6th, 2021, AND THAT'S

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UNFORTUNATE.

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HOW THEY TALK TO ME, HOW THEY

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REACH OUT TO ME, I WOULD BE

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TELLING THEM THE TRUTH, AND ALL

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I CARE ABOUT IS THE TRUTH.

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THAT'S WHY I CONTINUE TO SPEAK.

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THAT'S WHY I CONTINUE TO GO TO

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THE COURTS, TO ATTEST AND HOLD

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UP PEOPLE WHO ASSAULTED ME

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PERSONALLY, WHICH ARE MORE THAN

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40 PEOPLE THAT ASSAULTED ME ON

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JANUARY 6th IN THE LINE OF DUTY

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THAT I WAS PERFORMING MY JOB,

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PROTECTING THEM, INCLUDING NANCY

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PELOSI, MIKE JOHNSON, KEVIN

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McCARTHY.

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I PROTECT ALL OF THEM THE SAME,

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AND HERE THEY ARE TRYING TO USE

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THE POLICE OFFICER EVENTS AS

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POLITICAL PAWNS.

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BUT WE PROTECTED EACH MEMBER OF

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CONGRESS ON JANUARY 6th,

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REGARDLESS OF OUR POLITICAL

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VIEWS.

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REGARDLESS OF THEIR POLITICAL

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IDEOLOGIES, WE WERE PROTECTING

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THE CAPITOL NO MATTER WHO WAS

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INSIDE BEHIND US AND THAT'S WHYA

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I CARE ABOUT.

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THAT'S WHY I TAKE THE

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OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE

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HARRIS/BIDEN CAMPAIGN.

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IF THE REPUBLICANS WOULD HAVE

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CALLED ME, I WOULD HAVE DONE THE

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SAME THING, AND TELL THEM, BUT

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THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN THE

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TRUTH WHATSOEVER.

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>> REGARDLESS OF THEIR POLITICAL

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