How to Grow and Scale Your Design Business with a VA

Summary

In this webinar, Jason interviews Danae, the owner of a virtual assistant (VA) firm specializing in interior design support. Danae explains how her team of experienced VAs assists with tasks like 3D rendering, drafting, and administrative work, allowing designers to scale their businesses. She discusses the benefits of VAs, including cost-effectiveness, efficiency, and the ability to handle overflow work. The conversation also addresses common misconceptions about VAs, emphasizing the importance of clear communication and professionalism. Danae shares her firm's approach to matching designers with the right VAs based on their specific needs and preferences, ensuring a seamless and productive collaboration.

Takeaways

• 😀 The webinar discusses leveraging Virtual Assistants (VAs) to enhance design businesses, focusing on interior design.
• 📞 The guest speaker, Danae, joins via phone due to technical issues and introduces her role as a lead VA for designers.
• 🛠️ Services offered by Danae's VA firm include 3D renders, drafting, sourcing, and administrative tasks, tailored to interior designers' needs.
• 💼 VAs on Danae's team have several years of experience in interior design and are matched based on the designer's specific requirements and platforms.
• 💵 Pricing for services is transparent, with admin tasks at $40/hour and design work like 3D renders at $65/hour, on an as-needed basis without minimums.
• 🔄 VAs can assist with a variety of tasks including bookkeeping, marketing, and online business management, helping designers streamline operations.
• 🌱 Working with VAs allows designers to take on more clients, thereby increasing revenue and business growth.
• 🔗 Designers typically work with the same VA for long-term relationships, ensuring consistency and familiarity with their business.
• 🗓️ VAs are available across various U.S. time zones, and the matching process considers the designer's preferred working hours.
• 💼 The VA firm's success is built on trust and communication, aiming to alleviate designers' workload and allow them to focus on core business activities.

Q & A

What is the primary service offered by the virtual assistants (VAs) for interior designers?

The primary services offered by the VAs include 3D renders, drafting, sourcing, and admin work. These are the most popular services that help interior designers with their day-to-day tasks.

How does the VA firm match designers with virtual assistants?

The VA firm matches designers with virtual assistants based on the specific needs of the designer, the platforms and programs they use, and the expertise required. They also consider time zones and communication styles to ensure a good fit.

What is the cost structure for the services provided by the VA firm?

The cost structure is based on flat hourly rates. Admin services are charged at $40 an hour, while 3D renders, CAD drafting, and other design-related services are at $65 an hour.

Are there any minimum time commitments or contracts required when hiring a VA from this firm?

No, there are no minimum time commitments or contracts. The service is provided on an as-needed basis, allowing for flexibility.

How does the VA firm ensure that virtual assistants are up-to-date with the latest technology and software?

The VAs are matched based on their expertise with specific programs, and they are responsible for keeping up with updates and changes in their respective fields. The firm ensures they are knowledgeable about the latest technology.

What happens if a VA needs to take time off or is unavailable?

If a VA needs to take time off, they communicate this with the client and the firm. The firm then ensures a smooth transition by either having the VA train a temporary replacement or by providing another VA who is already up to speed on the client's needs.

How long does it typically take for a designer to get acclimated to working with a new VA?

The acclimation process is very quick, often following a 15-20 minute introductory call. The VAs are experienced and are able to start working effectively with the designer almost immediately.

Can designers work with the same VA on an ongoing basis even though the service is as-needed?

Yes, designers can work with the same VA on an ongoing basis. The firm matches VAs with designers for long-term business relationships, allowing for continuity and familiarity.

What are some misconceptions about VAs that the firm aims to dispel?

Some misconceptions include VAs not taking their jobs seriously or being non-communicative. The firm's VAs are professional, proactive communicators who treat their work as a career, not a side gig.

How does the firm handle sensitive information such as social media logins or backend office access?

The firm has security measures in place, including encrypted communication and legal contracts that protect sensitive information. They prioritize security and have not experienced any breaches since their establishment in 2009.

Outlines

00:00

🖥️ Introduction to Virtual Assistants in Design Business

The webinar introduces the concept of using virtual assistants (VAs) to enhance a design business. The guest, a lead virtual assistant, joins via phone due to technical difficulties. The discussion aims to explore the process of working with VAs, their costs, benefits, and the types of assistance they provide. The guest's firm specializes in assisting interior designers, offering services like 3D rendering, drafting, sourcing, and administrative tasks. The VAs are experienced and well-versed in interior design, often matching with clients based on the platforms and programs they use. The guest emphasizes the personalized matching process to ensure quality assistance tailored to the client's needs.

05:02

💼 Services and Pricing of Virtual Assistants

The conversation delves into the specific services provided by the VA firm, including bookkeeping, marketing, and online business management, all offered at an hourly rate. Administrative support is priced at $40 per hour, while design work such as 3D rendering and CAD drafting is at $65 per hour. The service model is flexible, with no minimum time commitments or long-term contracts, allowing clients to engage VAs as needed. The guest also addresses how VAs can help designers grow their businesses by taking on tasks that allow designers to focus on client acquisition and business expansion.

10:02

🔄 Continuity and Coverage for VA Services

The discussion highlights the continuity of VA services, where designers typically work with the same VA for long-term relationships, ensuring consistency and familiarity. In cases where a VA needs time off, there are internal communication protocols to ensure a smooth handover to a replacement VA, minimizing disruption. Clients can also opt for backup VAs to ensure coverage during peak times or emergencies. The guest assures that communication is key, and any issues are promptly addressed to maintain service quality.

15:03

🛠️ Training and Technological Proficiency of Virtual Assistants

The guest explains that VAs are well-trained and kept up-to-date with the latest software and technologies relevant to the design industry. They are matched with clients based on their expertise in specific programs like 2020, Chief Architect, SketchUp, and AutoCAD. The VAs are proactive in their communication and are expected to clarify expectations and turnaround times with their clients. The guest emphasizes that any issues with VA performance are rare due to the careful matching process and the high standards of the VA team.

20:04

🔒 Security and Efficiency of Virtual Assistant Services

The final paragraph addresses misconceptions about VAs, emphasizing the professionalism and communication skills of the guest's team. VAs are not just side gig workers but are dedicated professionals. The guest discusses security measures for sensitive information, such as social media logins and backend office access, highlighting the importance of encryption and legal contracts to protect against breaches. The webinar concludes with contact information for the guest, inviting participants to reach out for more information or assistance.

Keywords

💡Virtual Assistants (VAs)

Virtual Assistants (VAs) are professionals who provide administrative, technical, or creative support to clients remotely. In the context of the video, VAs play a crucial role in aiding interior designers by taking on tasks such as 3D rendering, drafting, sourcing, and administrative work. This allows designers to focus on growing and scaling their businesses, as mentioned by the lead VA during the webinar.

💡Interior Design

Interior Design refers to the creative and systematic process of enhancing the interior of a building or space to achieve a healthier and more aesthetically pleasing environment for the people using the space. The video discusses how VAs can assist interior designers in various aspects of their work, which is integral to the design process.

💡3D Renders

3D Renders are computer-generated images that simulate a realistic view of a proposed design, often used in interior design to visualize spaces before construction. The video mentions that VAs can provide 3D rendering services, which is a valuable asset for designers looking to offer this service to their clients.

💡Drafting

Drafting in the context of interior design involves creating technical drawings and plans that detail the design and construction of interior spaces. The video script highlights that VAs can assist with drafting, which is a critical component of the design process, allowing designers to outsource this task and focus on other aspects of their business.

💡Sourcing

Sourcing in interior design is the process of finding and selecting materials, furniture, and other elements needed for a project. The video discusses how VAs can assist with sourcing, which is a time-consuming task that can be delegated to enhance efficiency.

💡Administrative Support

Administrative Support encompasses a range of tasks including bookkeeping, scheduling, and managing correspondence. The video emphasizes the role of VAs in providing administrative support to interior designers, which helps to streamline operations and allows designers to dedicate more time to creative work.

💡Cost and Pricing

Cost and Pricing refer to the financial aspects of the services provided by VAs. The video outlines the different rates for various services such as administrative support and design work, which is a key consideration for designers when deciding to hire a VA.

💡Service Customization

Service Customization is the ability to tailor services to meet the specific needs of a client. The video script mentions that VAs can be matched based on the platforms and programs the client already uses, showcasing the flexibility and customization of the services offered.

💡Business Growth

Business Growth refers to the expansion of a company's operations, customer base, or revenue. The video discusses how VAs can contribute to the growth of a designer's business by taking on tasks that allow the designer to handle more clients and offer additional services, such as 3D rendering.

💡Communication

Communication is the exchange of information and ideas between people. The video emphasizes the importance of clear and proactive communication between VAs and designers, which is essential for ensuring that tasks are completed accurately and efficiently.

💡Security Measures

Security Measures are the precautions taken to protect sensitive information from unauthorized access or breaches. The video touches on the importance of security when VAs handle sensitive information such as social media logins or backend office access, ensuring that proper protocols are in place to safeguard this data.

Highlights

Introduction to the webinar on using Virtual Assistants (VAs) to enhance design businesses.

Discussion on the process and benefits of working with VAs in the design industry.

Explanation of the services offered by the VA firm specializing in interior design assistance.

Details on the most popular services such as 3D renders, drafting, sourcing, and admin support.

Process of matching clients with VAs based on specific needs and platforms they use.

Insight into the VA team's background, with many having interior design education and experience.

Cost structure of the services, with rates for admin and design work provided.

Flexibility of the service with no minimum time commitments and as-needed basis contracts.

Additional services offered, including bookkeeping, marketing, and online business management.

How VAs help designers grow their businesses by taking on more clients and offering new services.

Continuity of service, with designers typically working with the same VA for long-term relationships.

Proactive communication from VAs to ensure smooth project handling and client satisfaction.

Handling of time-off for VAs and ensuring continuity by either temporary replacements or backups.

Importance of staying updated with the latest design technology and software by the VAs.

Process for designers to change VAs if needed and ensuring a good fit for their specific requirements.

Feedback from designers on the benefits of working with VAs, such as reduced workload and business growth.

Discussion on the acclimation period for designers working with new VAs and ensuring a quick start.

Flexibility in communication methods, allowing designers to use their preferred platforms.

Addressing misconceptions about VAs, emphasizing the professionalism and communication skills of the team.

Handling of sensitive information and security measures in place to protect client data.

Contact information provided for those interested in learning more about the VA services.

Transcripts

foreign

to our webinar of the month uh today

we're going to be talking about how to

use VA to up your uh design business and

we are joined here by the name of a lead

virtual assistants and um we have her by

phone because we had some technical

difficulties on the video side so we we

are happy to have you here how are you

doing uh today tonight I am doing great

Jason thank you so much I'm so happy to

hear or be here and um I apologize for

any technical difficulties here if I

happen to pop hop on I will hop on here

but otherwise yeah things are going well

thank you it happens technology you know

that that's just the world we live in

today

absolutely yeah I had wanted to have you

here today because this is one of the

topics that a lot of our designers and

uh in a design realm that I'm in and

then that we deal with on the client

side that they ask about is

um how to work with va's and what what

that that whole process is like and what

the cost is and what the benefits and

you know and all it is and so that's one

of the reasons I wanted to have you here

today because you actually run a VA firm

that specifically deals with designers

interior designers and the realm so if

you could just tell us a little bit

about how your business operates

with interior designers

um they let me know basically what kind

of help they need we offer a you know a

wide variety of services but the most

popular services are 3D renders drafting

sourcing admin

we do a lot of that stuff for our

clients so basically they call me they

ask me or they let me know what they're

needing and then I match them with

somebody on my team who can help them so

everybody on my team is located across

the United States they all have several

years of virtual assistant experience

specific to Interior Design so I am even

going as far as matching based on

platforms programs clients come to me

and you know they're already using

specific platforms or programs whether

it's on the creative side or the admin

side we're matching based on that as

well so they know that they're working

with a very good quality experienced

virtual design assistant who has all the

knowledge in the interior design

industry and is willing to help them

with anything that they need help with

which a lot of times is you know helping

them grow and scale their businesses

along the way so a lot of the people

that work on my team I know I always get

this question is where do you find these

people or how do they you know come

about a lot of them are actual people

who went to school to become interior

designers and somewhere along the line

decided that the client to designer

relationship just wasn't for them and

they really find joy in working designer

to designer services so they prefer

um basically just assisting other

interior designers

okay and so one of the questions that

I'm usually asked is what is the cost so

what typically for the services that you

offer what what are like the cost ranges

and and is there like contracts is there

like a minimum time that uh they need

absolutely

yep sure so the contract is on an as

needed basis no minimums so we do flat

hourly rates based on the service

um so to give you an idea if you need

admin Services backend office help

that's going to be forty dollars an hour

if you need 3D renders CAD drafting

sourcing any type of real design work

that's at 65 an hour and those are just

our most popular Services of course if

anyone needs something in addition to

that or has a question about anything

else you know I'm happy to give those

prices as well

okay and then in terms of what are I

know you had mentioned about the 3D

rendering and the drawing help what are

some other services that designers

usually use your va's for

sure besides what I mentioned already

um some people are using the va's for

bookkeeping

um I do have some bookkeepers on the

team who are very specific to Interior

Design I know a lot of interior

designers have some difficulty finding

those

um we do offer some uh marketing you

know website social media

um

trying to think of what else oh um

online business management is becoming

more popular I will have designers come

to me who really have no idea where they

need help or maybe they have an idea but

they need help streamlining processes

getting organized building templates so

they're not constantly Reinventing the

wheel every time they get a new client

online business management services are

at the 65 an hour as well and that

person comes in and just helps them

streamline all their processes gets

things in place and then also looks at

other areas where they may need help and

then would help facilitate hiring

additional virtual assistant design

assistance if they need so basically

everybody on my team kind of niches down

into the areas of the industry that they

excel in and that they enjoy so if you

hire someone to do construction

documents in AutoCAD that's not going to

be the same person who's going to do all

of your you know invoicing and proposal

in Ivy or whatever you know software

you're using for that okay one of the

things that we had on here is is how to

help your business grow with Pas how

have you seen designers grow with the

va's that they work with uh from you

a lot of times I mean the number one way

it helps is that

that take things off of the plate of the

interior designer so the interior

designer will have way more time to grow

and scale

um and work with additional clients so

maybe on their own they can only handle

a certain number of clients but once

they hire a virtual assistant to help

them they can handle a lot more clients

and then that way that increases their

revenue because you know what they're

paying their VA their their uh

up charging and charging their you know

their client for that too so the

client's paying for the VA plus the

designer is making whatever the

difference is that they're charging the

their client so that's one of the number

one ways we've seen that we've also seen

people grow their businesses by offering

additional services that they may not

offer so for example 3D renders we have

some clients that have not done 3D

renders they don't offer that service

but they're seeing a need from their

clients to have that so they start

offering that as a service now they hire

a VA to help do all their renders and

then again they you know turn around and

invoice the client for that and make

money off of that as well that makes

sense and then from the designers that

you work with do they usually work with

the same VA so if they were to take time

off so if it's on as needed as you had

talked about so if they needed them for

a month and then they may take a much

left off or take some time off if they

were to come back would they have the

same VA or would they have somebody else

almost always they will have the same VA

so we do kind of match for long-term

business relationships even though it is

an as needed service a lot of my clients

really get to know the VA and the VA

gets to know them how they like things

you know every designer runs their

business a little bit differently they

might have different turnaround times

um you know they just have different

things communication Styles different

things in place so once I match them

with

um a VA on my team they will typically

stick with that VA as they need them

ongoing so like you said they're more

than welcome to take a month off two

months off whatever it is and then they

are welcome to reach right back out to

that person when they need them again

okay and then now what happens on the

opposite end if the VA needs to take

time off uh is there internal

communication that helps to uh alleviate

the time to ramp up to see what the VA

was handling for the designer so there's

no drop-off time there yes absolutely so

if uh VA has to take time off they would

let myself and their client know and we

would get somebody else in place that VA

could help you know make sure they're up

to speed

um you know if it is a middle of a

project which is rare you know they

would make sure that they had everything

they needed so that the new VA could

could take over and then I also have

some clients who will

um just from the get-go they run with

their regular VA that they like to work

with ongoing but then they have a backup

so they themselves know in a pinch they

can just reach out to the backup even to

help do you know a project or whatever

maybe sometimes my clients get super

busy and they need more than one person

to help with you know whatever it may be

um and so then that way they they have

those couple of people to go to in a

pinch if

you know things come up and

and they need help right away then they

know they have that option but they can

always reach out to me at any time too

um and communication is huge

um that's the number one thing with our

va's is the communication is there all

my clients always know what's going on I

never want them to have a question on

their invoice

um it's extremely rare there are

questions on invoice because of the

communication between the va's and the

clients but if there is any I'm I'm

accessible I'm easy to work with I want

to know about it I will take care of it

so that's awesome and then now how about

on the training side because I know with

a lot of the programs you know

especially on the rendering side they're

forever changing 2020 a Chief Architect

or whatever they always have updates are

the va's keeping up on what's happening

in the technology world

yes they are so that is why I do match

based on program because if somebody is

using 2020 I match them with some you

know a VA that's using 2020 and keeping

up on that and that is where their

expertise lies they they work in 2020

all day every day and Chief Architect is

another popular one

um SketchUp AutoCAD uh there's a you

know a variety of platforms out there

but yes they are keeping up on those all

the time

okay and then if there's any issues and

then a designer needs to change what

does that process usually look like

right

um basically they would just reach out

to me and let me know that for whatever

reason their VA is not working out and

then I would match them with somebody

else I do like to know you know the

reasoning it is rare I've been matching

people since 2009

so I'm typically really good

um occasionally though it does come up

and usually it might be either

availability issue or or a timing issue

which time zone issue which I try to

match People based on time zones if that

is going to be

um you know a saying I know again every

designer runs their business a little

bit differently and some designers are

more particular on the times of days

days of the week that maybe their

assistant is available so those types of

things we try to work out right away so

when I'm matching we don't run into

issues but if there is ever an issue

down the road the designer just needs to

come to me and let me know what it is so

then that way I make sure that I get

them a better fit

a second time around

okay and so with all of this time and

all of these years what have you heard

from designers that they that has most

benefited him from working with you and

the va's what what have you heard from

the designers that you've been working

with

right A lot of them that I work with

have just said it's just such a weight

off of their shoulders that they have

someone else that they can trust to kind

of Outsource and offload some work

um they just feel like they can kind of

breathe get organized and and go out

there and get more clients or be able to

take on everyone who's coming to them

because I get a lot of calls from a lot

of clients who say I've got X number of

clients that are kind of waiting and I

don't want to make these people wait

this long or I'm worried that if I make

them wait too long on a waiting list

they'll go elsewhere

um you know or I am ready to hire

somebody so that I can take on more so a

lot of it is just the growth part of it

um sometimes they just

maybe their business is where it's at

but they're just working way too much

and they would like to reclaim their

evenings or their weekends and it's just

been so nice to be able to Outsource

some work for that as well uh but yeah a

lot of it is just the admin admin

drafting sourcing and renders that's

some of the I mean the top requests we

get that people just need help with

one of the other questions that we had

here is so from a designer standpoint

since you actually have a lot of

designers that are working with you what

have you seen in terms of how long it

takes for them to actually get

acclimated to the designer that they're

working with like is that usually a few

hours a few days a few weeks how long is

that process

right that process is extremely quick

because all the va's on my team are so

experienced they've been doing this for

a really long time so what they do is

they'll have a phone call with interior

designer and I do that anyway

um initially they will always have a

phone call just to make sure the

designer is comfortable with who I match

them with as well

um you know so that they can talk to

them and make sure this is a good fit

and then yeah it's usually an extremely

short period of time after that you know

15-20 minute call designers are already

going to be sending work

um to their assistant to do so I mean I

it is so quick and easy and that's

another reason why designers love it is

because there's not a long turnaround

you know kind of turnaround time to get

up or set up time to get up and going

it's pretty immediate

I also tell everyone that works through

us is the communication is however the

designers are most comfortable

communicating we don't have a special

portal that they have to log into or

anything like that which the designers

love because a lot of them may already

have things in place where they're

communicating with Asana or slack or

whatever it may be that's how they'll

communicate with their assistant if

that's how they like it so I'm not

um you know forcing them into another

portal or or making them do more work

just to work with somebody that's

supposed to help alleviate that we try

to make everything as easy and simple as

possible for

for the designers that was actually you

you actually answered one of the other

questions I I had from one of the one of

the designers is there a certain type of

program that you use like like you just

mentioned usually it's on the designer

but they ask do they have to use slack

or Asana or any of those type programs

right nope it is

they already have something

designer doesn't have anything in place

but they want to set something up then

the assistant and them will just set up

whatever that is but yeah I do not have

a a special portal that I make all of

the clients and the design assistants go

through I want the communication between

the assistant and the designer to be as

open as possible and I want them to work

together as they would a normal team

member and so that's why and like I said

a lot of clients that come to me already

have things in place and they don't like

the idea of having another

you know portal or something like that

to have to go through

to work with someone

that makes sense we don't want to make

it more cumbersome yes

yes that makes sense and and then with

the hours are they usually on the hours

of the designer or is it hours on East

Coast time Pacific Time what are usually

the hours that the va's work

sure so um again all the va's are

scattered across the United States so if

I have to match based on hours I will

match that

um way based on how the designers work

so for example if I have a designer on

the East Coast

she doesn't maybe want to work with an

assistant on the west coast because it's

a three-hour time difference and the

designer is going to be up and going at

least three hours possibly you know

before the assistant is available so I

do when the designers when I talk to

them I do ask if that makes a difference

what we also do is if they're not in the

exact time zone the assistant will still

work

that that the time zone of the hours

that the designer needs them to if that

makes sense so

um that's not ever been an issue because

they usually tell me up front like okay

I'm on the East Coast I I prefer not to

work with somebody on the west coast it

usually the West Coast designers you

know love working with East Coast

assistants because they're already up

for three hours this will work the

opposite way

um but yeah so that's one of the things

we always ask or you know want to know

is you know do you have a preference on

the hours and some designers quite

honestly will let me know okay my most

productive time is early in the morning

I need somebody available or in the

morning or my most productive hours or

are after hours maybe evening I don't

mind if my assistant's going to be

working evenings so we try to match

based on that as well okay okay this is

a question here from one of the

designers that are on live what are some

misconceptions that you've heard about

va's that is not true for the va's that

you usually deliver

sure yeah so some misconceptions about

va's that I've heard

um are that they

don't take their jobs seriously and are

just kind of

non-communicative I guess I would say

um and and it's some unfortunately there

are out there in the world some va's

where it is a little bit more difficult

to work with

the va's on my team are not like that I

had said earlier communication is huge

they're proactive

I I mean everyone must be proactive I

don't want anything falling through the

cracks they they're going to be reaching

out to the designer if they see

something if they need something

um unfortunately the misconception with

some va's out there is you hand them an

assignment and then you don't hear from

them for two weeks and then you have to

follow up and say hey what's going on

that won't happen with the people on my

team

um they want to know you know when is

expected turnaround time when would you

like this done even if it's admin tasks

um right up front they'll ask you know

how do you like this stuff done is this

you're going to send me a weekly task

list and I get it done by Friday are you

sending me a daily task list and I'm

getting it done by the end of the day I

mean that communication is so clear and

up front

um everyone on my team this is their

profession this is their career this is

what they do for a living they're not

just side gig va's and I think that's

where a misconception is with va's out

there

in other Industries okay and this is

another question from one of the

designers that are on how do you handle

if an assignment is handed to a VA and

they do not know how to complete it

how's that handled

sure

um number one that would be extremely

rare just because of how we match them

in the beginning as far as

you know if it has to if you're needing

somebody to do full-on construction docs

in a certain program that it would be

rare they would get an assignment they

wouldn't know how to complete but let's

say in the rare instance they do that

assistant would immediately let the

designer and myself know so if I need to

get somebody else on that I would get

somebody else on that but again that

that would be rare just because of how

we

match people in the beginning so those

things don't you know we we try to avoid

those things

okay and here's another question from

one of the designers that are on what

are some security measures that are in

place for sensitive information like for

instance social media and did I'm just

adding this on because they didn't have

in particular what the sensitive

information is but say for instance if

there's like social media logins or if

they have logins to the back end of

their office how is that handled if

there's a breach of any kind or what

what are some security measures that you

have in place

sure so as far as security measures

um obviously if there's any encrypted

things that the designers are are

needing to have encrypted or whatever we

do that

um but our Contracting and the legal

team has been done a great job as at

making sure obviously those things are

well thought out and written out so that

those things don't happen again I've

been doing this since 2009 we've never

once had a security breach or or any

issues like that my background's in the

financial industry so with compliance

and all of that I brought that into my

work with interior design and we just

make sure that

I guess that we don't have those I mean

our you know my business is Word of

Mouth

um these design assistants get that work

through me

um they most all of them are long-term

members of the team and I guess as far

as you know we don't would never want to

do anything that would tarnish our name

or or the profession okay that's that's

awesome that's awesome and I that is all

of the questions that we had live and

that that's actually all of them that I

had it's if anybody that's here live or

that's watching on the recording if they

want to get in contact with you to find

out more information how do they do so

sure so there's a couple different ways

they could go to my website at Elite

designassistance.com

and from there there's a contact form

they could fill out that goes directly

to me

um there is a scheduling link that they

could schedule an appointment the

scheduling link on my website does go to

my assistant Brandis and she takes those

calls if somebody specifically wants to

talk to me since I was on this webinar

I'm happy to talk to anyone who is who

is on live or watching the recording

personally

they can shoot me an email at Danae at

elitedesignassistance.com and I will

email them my personal calendar link

okay we appreciate your time here Danae

and that will be the webinar for this

month next month we're going to be

talking about how to sneak

sustainability into your next project

so we hope to have you all here next

month on the webinar of the month and uh

we hope you all have a great day thank

you Jason