Former NZ Athlete Lorraine Moller on protecting women's sports
Summary
TLDRThe transcript discusses concerns over transgender athletes competing in women's sports, highlighting the potential loss of privacy and fairness. It features individuals like Riley Gaines and Caitlyn Jenner advocating for women's rights in sports. The conversation touches on the political implications of the issue in New Zealand, with the New Zealand First party and ACT party taking clear stances against men competing in women's sports, while other parties are seen as less decisive. The speaker urges political action to address the divisive issue, emphasizing the importance of maintaining fair competition and the integrity of women's sports.
Takeaways
- 🚺 The speaker emphasizes the need for women to have private spaces, particularly in change rooms and restrooms, to ensure their comfort and safety.
- 🏋️♀️ Instances are shared where girls have been uncomfortable or stopped participating in sports due to the presence of a transgender individual in their change rooms.
- 🌐 The discussion suggests that this issue is being confronted in the United States and internationally, with some sports bodies beginning to reconsider their policies.
- 📝 The script criticizes the practice of allowing individuals to compete in women's sports based solely on self-identification as male or female.
- 🏅 It is argued that this approach undermines the progress women have made in sports over the past century and is fundamentally unfair.
- 🥇 Examples are given, such as Laurel Hubbard, to illustrate the perceived unfairness of transgender women competing against cisgender women.
- 🤔 The speaker questions the ethics of transgender individuals competing in women's sports, suggesting it's narcissistic and indicative of moral corruption.
- 🏆 Caitlyn Jenner, a gold medalist, is mentioned as someone who supports women's sports and believes men should not compete in women's categories.
- 🗳️ The script makes a political statement, suggesting that the New Zealand First party is the only one addressing this issue, and encourages voting for them.
- 🤝 The speaker wishes for more political parties to take a stand on this issue, recognizing its divisiveness and the strong feelings of the public.
- 📈 The discussion implies that there is a growing movement against the current approach to transgender participation in women's sports, as seen in the US.
Q & A
What is the main concern expressed in the transcript regarding women's sports?
-The main concern is about the participation of transgender women in women's sports, which some believe undermines the fairness and equality that women have fought for in sports.
Why do some girls stop participating in sports when encountering a transgender woman in the change room?
-They feel uncomfortable and unsafe, which leads to them not wanting to use the change room anymore, potentially ending their involvement in the sport.
What is the speaker's opinion on the current practice of self-identifying gender in sports?
-The speaker believes it is wrong and unfair, as it disregards the progress women have made in achieving equality in sports over the past century.
How does the speaker feel about the situation of women being displaced in sports by transgender women?
-The speaker finds it extremely unfair, as it goes against the ethos of sports and the well-earned achievements of women.
What does the speaker think about the moral aspect of men competing in women's sports?
-The speaker is appalled by the moral corruption, viewing it as narcissistic and an exploitation of an unlevel playing field.
What is the speaker's view on Caitlyn Jenner's stance on men competing in women's sports?
-The speaker agrees with Caitlyn Jenner, who believes that men should not compete in women's sports, as it would be unfair and could potentially break women's records.
What political stance does the speaker believe New Zealand First has taken on this issue?
-The speaker believes that New Zealand First is supportive of women and has taken a clear and unambiguous stance against men competing in women's sports.
Why does the speaker encourage people to vote for New Zealand First on this issue?
-The speaker encourages voting for New Zealand First because they were the only party at the time of the transcript that was supportive of women's rights in this context.
What is the speaker's opinion on other political parties' stance on the issue?
-The speaker wishes that other parties would take a clear stand on the issue, as they believe it is divisive and that people's feelings on the matter are strong.
How does the speaker describe the situation in the United States regarding this issue?
-The speaker suggests that in the United States, the issue is being confronted, with individuals like Riley Gaines standing up against the participation of transgender women in women's sports.
What does the speaker hope for regarding the stance of sports bodies internationally?
-The speaker hopes that sports bodies internationally will take a stand and say 'enough is enough', implying a desire for a return to a more acceptable standard in sports regarding gender participation.
Outlines
🏋️♀️ Women's Sports and Privacy Concerns
The paragraph discusses the need for women to have private spaces, particularly in sports changing rooms. It highlights instances where the presence of a transgender individual has caused discomfort among female athletes, leading some to abandon their sports. The speaker expresses concern about the fairness and ethics of allowing individuals who are biologically male to compete in women's sports, arguing that it undermines the progress women have made in achieving equality in sports. The conversation also touches on the political aspect of this issue, with the speaker commending New Zealand First and ACT party for their stance against men competing in women's sports and encouraging other parties to take a clear position on the matter.
🗣️ Public Resistance to Unfair Sports Policies
This short paragraph emphasizes the growing public opposition to policies that allow biological males to compete in women's sports. The speaker suggests that this resistance will continue to build, as more people recognize the inherent unfairness of such policies. The paragraph concludes with a call for continued activism and political engagement to address this issue.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Private spaces
💡Transgender
💡Sport
💡Equality
💡Unfair competition
💡Ethos of sport
💡Political stance
💡New Zealand First
💡ACT Party
💡Moral corruption
💡Narcissism
Highlights
The importance of private spaces for women, especially in change rooms and toilets.
Instances where girls have been deterred from sports due to the presence of a man in the change room.
The impact on sports participation when girls feel uncomfortable sharing change rooms with individuals who are biologically male.
The confrontation of these issues in the United States and the stance taken by individuals like Riley Gaines.
International sports bodies beginning to address the issue of fairness in sports regarding transgender participation.
The argument that checking a box for gender should not be the sole criterion for participation in women's sports.
The historical fight for women's equality in sports and how current policies may derail these achievements.
The perceived unfairness when a transgender woman, like Laurel Hubbard, competes against cisgender women.
The broader ethos of sports and how it is being compromised by allowing individuals to compete based on self-identification.
Caitlyn Jenner's stance on men competing in women's sports and the potential impact on women's records.
The moral corruption and narcissism involved in competing on an unlevel playing field.
The political landscape in New Zealand regarding this issue, with specific parties taking a clear stand.
The call for other political parties to address the divisive nature of the issue and to take a stand.
The potential for increased public resistance to the current policies, as seen in the United States.
The hope for a return to an 'acceptable normal' in the context of sports and gender identity.
The encouragement for people to vote for parties that support women's rights in sports.
Transcripts
I think women need to have their private
spaces and I especially think well I
know an example of a few examples of
girls who have gone into the change room
and uh there's been a man there and they
they don't want to
go under the change room anymore so you
know that's it that's it for the sport
the girls that don't want to go and
there's nothing they can do about it I
don't think any parent would want their
girl to be in a change room or a toilet
with a full grown male yeah
um Lorraine one gets the feeling in the
United States that it is confronting
these issues
and that a woman like us at Riley Gaines
are standing up and saying no and in
fact if we look internationally a number
of sports bodies
are starting to say enough's enough
let's stop being so silly about this is
it your feeling
that we're getting back towards some
sort of acceptable normal on this issue
in sport
I would hope so I would hope so
um I think
for sports to say all you have to do is
check a box male or female and then you
get to compete in it is completely
um wrong it derails everything that we
woman fought for in the last century to
get our equality in sports and I think
it's really unfair and I I think people
know it's wrong when they're watching
say Laurel Hubbard standing on the
podium with two other women and uh I
mean and displacing another woman and
her well-earned place on a team
um that's to me it's really unfair and
it goes against the ethos of sport
because sport is not about winning it's
it is certainly there's a part of it but
a man who wants to come in and win is
wanting to be a a big fish I gotta say I
the what appalls me most about the
situation theater care
is the moral Corruption of the people
who do it the men who do it how what
satisfaction can there be
in winning on an unlevel playing field
it is just so narcissistic to be honest
and in my opinion Lorraine
yes well you know Sean we've got
um Caitlyn Jenner who was Bruce Jenner
is the gold medalist the Catholic he
says you know he knows he's he sticks up
for the woman he says they should not
men should not compete in women's sports
yeah because he could have declared
himself a woman any day and he would
have blown yeah that's right every
woman's record as we're seeing you know
um
so there shouldn't be a standard for
woman that's set by a man yeah
that's not fair yeah Lorraine you've
gone one step further and I think you're
a person with a pretty good perspective
particularly on the sport issue of this
this has now been raised in the last two
or three weeks as an election issue and
Winston Peters has come out and and been
absolutely unambiguous about that the
only person to to match in in their
unambiguity is um his good friend David
Seymour leader of the ACT party National
don't want a bar of it or luxon doesn't
want to Bar of it because it's
politically risky labor I would say uh
in the other Camp they promote this sort
of thing and the greens of course is
transgender strange radical as you can
you can possibly get you have added to
your your statements about this a
political statement and that is that you
believe New Zealand first is the only
party that can deliver
in the space on this issue and you're
encouraging people to vote for them are
you a long time New Zealand supporter
how did this come about no
no and I I'm not really uh I don't
follow politics that much I never have
I've never been that interested in
politics uh the only reason that I made
that statement was that at the time the
um uh the New Zealand first party was
coming out and supportive woman and I
would like that to be a political issue
and I hope the other parties will come
to the table
they've taken very much the same
position Lorraine would you also say
good on Act
absolutely and I wish the other parties
would come out and say we're going to
make a stand on this
because I don't think they'd realize how
uh divisive this issue is and how people
really feel and uh if the US's any
indication I think you're going to see
more and more people standing up and
rallying again against it because it's
not right
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