What really happens when you tip a golf shaft!
Summary
TLDRIn this 'Cool Clubs' podcast, hosts delve into the intricacies of golf shaft tipping, revealing how it affects performance metrics like frequency, torque, and launch angle. They discuss the common misconception that shafts stiffen with tipping and share insights from a decade of research. The conversation covers a wide range of shafts, from ladies' flex to tour-level stiff, highlighting surprising findings. For instance, some shafts show minimal changes post-tipping, while others, particularly high-launching ones, can behave unexpectedly. The hosts underscore the importance of this knowledge for custom club fitting, ensuring that golfers receive clubs that meet their specific needs and expectations.
Takeaways
- 🏌️♂️ Tipping golf shafts is a technique used to alter the performance characteristics of a golf club, including stiffness, launch angle, and torque.
- ⛳️ Professional golfers often tip their shafts an inch to increase stiffness, which can also affect other aspects of the club's performance.
- 🔍 The process of tipping involves cutting the end of the shaft that is installed into the club head, with changes measured in quarter-inch increments.
- 📊 Shafts can be categorized by flex, from ladies' flex to tour-level stiff shafts, and each responds differently to tipping.
- 📉 Some shafts show minimal changes in frequency or feel when tipped, while others can experience significant alterations in their performance characteristics.
- 📈 High-launching shafts with soft tips tend to change less when tipped compared to other types, which can be important for golfers seeking specific launch conditions.
- 📉 Tipping can either increase or decrease the launch angle of a golf shaft, contrary to the common assumption that it only stiffens the shaft.
- 🛠️ Custom club fitters use precise data from shaft tipping tests to ensure that the final club meets the golfer's specific needs and expectations.
- 💾 Fitting software is being updated to consider the effects of tipped shafts to provide more accurate recommendations for golf club setups.
- 🔑 The importance of understanding how individual shafts react to tipping is emphasized for both club fitters and golfers to optimize performance.
Q & A
What is shaft tipping in golf?
-Shaft tipping in golf refers to the process of cutting and adjusting the tip end of a golf shaft, which is the end installed into the club head. This can affect the shaft's frequency, torque, and launch characteristics, among other performance factors.
Why do professional golfers tip their golf shafts?
-Professional golfers tip their golf shafts to adjust the shaft's performance to their preferences. For instance, tipping an inch can make the shaft stiffer, which might be desired for certain players or conditions. It also allows for adjustments in launch angle and other characteristics.
How does shaft tipping affect the frequency and stiffness of a golf shaft?
-Tipping a golf shaft can increase its frequency, which is a measure of stiffness. Generally, as you tip more from the tip end, the shaft becomes stiffer. However, the extent of this change varies by shaft model, with some shafts showing minimal changes and others showing significant increases in stiffness.
What is the significance of the frequency scale in golf shafts?
-The frequency scale, or flex measurement, is significant in golf shafts as it indicates how stiff or flexible the shaft is. A higher frequency number correlates with a stiffer shaft, which can influence the golfer's swing and the club's performance.
Why do some shafts not change much when tipped?
-Some shafts, particularly those with very soft tips or high-end materials, may not show significant changes when tipped. The construction and material properties of these shafts can make them less sensitive to tipping adjustments.
How does shaft tipping impact the launch angle of a golf club?
-Shaft tipping can impact the launch angle of a golf club. Generally, tipping can lead to a lower launch angle as the shaft becomes stiffer. However, this is not a universal rule, and some shafts, especially those with very soft tips, might show little to no change or even an increase in launch angle.
What is the role of Cool Clubs in shaft tipping?
-Cool Clubs is a company that specializes in custom golf club fittings. They have a machine and expertise to measure the effects of shaft tipping on various shafts. They use this data to ensure that the clubs they build for customers perform as intended after tipping.
Why is it important for club builders to know the effects of shaft tipping?
-It is important for club builders to know the effects of shaft tipping because it ensures that the final product matches the fitter's intention and the customer's expectations. Accurate tipping information helps builders create clubs that perform optimally for the golfer.
How does shaft tipping affect the torque of a golf shaft?
-Shaft tipping can affect the torque of a golf shaft, which is a measure of how much the shaft twists during a swing. Tipping can either increase or decrease torque, depending on the shaft's construction and material. This can influence the feel and performance of the club.
What is the significance of the S3 Flex in the context of shaft tipping?
-The S3 Flex is a scale used by Cool Clubs to measure the flexibility of golf shafts. It provides a detailed and specific measurement that helps in understanding how a shaft will perform after being tipped, allowing for more precise fittings and adjustments.
Outlines
🏌️♂️ Introduction to Golf Shaft Tipping
The first paragraph introduces the topic of golf shaft tipping, a process that significantly alters the performance characteristics of golf clubs. The discussion highlights the common misconception that shaft tipping only stiffens the shaft. However, it's revealed that tipping can also affect other aspects such as torque and launch angle. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding these changes, especially for professional fitters, and mentions the industry shift towards adjusting fitting software to account for tipped shafts. The paragraph sets the stage for an in-depth exploration of shaft tipping's effects on various types of golf shafts.
📊 Analyzing Shaft Tipping Effects
Paragraph two delves into the specific effects of shaft tipping on different golf shafts. It discusses how the frequency or flex of a shaft changes with tipping, and how this is not always as expected. Some shafts show minimal changes in flex even with significant tipping, while others experience substantial alterations. The paragraph introduces the concept of a 'playability number' and the intention to publish these numbers to help golfers understand how stiff different shafts are relative to each other. It also touches on the idea that marketing terms like 'stiff' and 'regular' can be misleading and that a more detailed understanding is necessary for proper fitting.
📉 Detailed Shaft Tipping Analysis and Findings
This paragraph provides a detailed analysis of how shaft tipping affects various golf shafts, from ladies' flex to tour-level stiff shafts. It discusses the surprising findings that some shafts, particularly those with very soft or very stiff tips, do not change as expected when tipped. The conversation includes specific examples, such as the Acura M Zero and M1, which show minimal changes in flex and torque. It also mentions the importance of this detailed analysis for custom club fitting, ensuring that the final product meets the golfer's needs. The paragraph emphasizes the value of this detailed data in improving the fitting process and the performance of the clubs.
📈 Conclusion on Shaft Tipping Insights
The final paragraph summarizes the insights gained from the detailed analysis of shaft tipping. It highlights the importance of this knowledge for builders and fitters to ensure that the clubs they create perform as intended. The discussion points out the variability in how different shafts respond to tipping, with some behaving contrary to typical expectations. The paragraph concludes with a note on the intention to share more specific information on shaft families and their tipping characteristics in future discussions, emphasizing the ongoing commitment to providing accurate and useful data for golf club fitting.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Tipping Golf Shafts
💡Frequency (FM)
💡Torque
💡Launch Angle
💡Shaft Flex
💡Playability Number
💡Tour Van
💡S3 Flex
💡CPMS
💡Thinning Matrix
Highlights
Tipping golf shafts can significantly alter their performance, including stiffness, torque, and launch characteristics.
Mark has dedicated over a decade to developing a machine and understanding the intricacies of golf shaft tipping.
Tour players often tip golf shafts an inch to increase stiffness, which can also affect other performance aspects.
Cool Clubs is updating their fitting software to consider shafts in tipped conditions for more accurate recommendations.
Shaft tipping can be done from the butt end or the tip end, and its effects are measured in quarter-inch increments.
Different shafts react uniquely to tipping, with some experiencing dramatic changes and others showing minimal differences.
Tipping a lady's golf shaft may not significantly alter its performance, contrary to common assumptions.
Cool Clubs measures and records the effects of tipping on a vast range of shafts, from ladies' flex to tour-level stiff.
The Acura M Zero shaft, despite being very soft, shows minimal changes in frequency and torque when tipped.
Some shafts, like the Graphite Design CQ, experience a full flex change when tipped, indicating a significant alteration in performance.
High-launching shafts with weak tips, such as the Platinum shaft, show little to no change in flex when tipped.
Cool Clubs' detailed approach to shaft tipping ensures that each golfer receives a club tailored to their specific needs.
The frequency (FM) of a shaft does not always increase when tipped, contradicting common expectations.
Some shafts, like the Ventus Blue TR, may launch higher when tipped, which is counterintuitive and important for golfers to know.
The Ventus Blue 8 shaft, designed for high swing speeds, shows significant changes in frequency and torque when tipped.
Cool Clubs' database includes extensive tipping data on over 4,500 shafts, providing valuable insights for club building.
Builders at Cool Clubs utilize the shaft tipping data to ensure the final club matches the fitter's intention and the golfer's expectations.
Transcripts
welcome back to cool clubs this is our
technology explained series uh this
first section is going to be about
tipping golf shafts I think people are
going to be pretty blown away when they
see what happens to aventus golf shaft
yeah that's really interesting isn't it
so Mark
um Mark you've done all the hard yards
on this you've done 10 years of work
well 10 years of work on this one
machine itself and many other years in
the industry let's run down maybe give
everyone just a heads up straight away
like what is shaft tipping and then
explain how we're going to kind of talk
about where we got to today and then
some specific products so if people hang
in there they're going to start learning
about some golf shafts throughout this
this podcast right well we've always you
know always everyone kind of understands
that your tip of shaft to get stiffer
right so you know everyone just assumes
you tip in an inch and it gets quite a
bit stiffer and you tip it a quarter
inch it does less and and all that and
uh so you know we always kind of
understood that to some extent um but
you know as recently you know we heard a
lot of guys on tour tip everything an
inch uh pretty common on tour actually
and basically that's making it stiffer
but it does other things than that so
we're actually changing our fitting
software to look at all the shafts as
they're tipped not just when they're
going up in frequency and getting
stiffer but what else are they doing are
they going lower they're changing the
torque and they change a lot of things
yeah actually it's not a funny we're
gonna saw a track real early I always
wondered in my head like why does the
tour van tip everything an inch yeah and
I don't do that every all the time but
it's pretty prevalent out there to be
honest with you but I heard a good
answer for it right so when they they
say right here's a new golf shaft let's
let's say xpga Tour player wants to try
this shaft they tip it an inch they give
it to them they play if they want it
softer well they can make it softer
that's a good point
yeah I hadn't thought about it that way
it was very very it was interesting
that's a good answer yeah I'm not sure
that's all the reason they do it but
they do tip a lot it would make sense
right right
um okay so just going backwards a little
bit tipping golf shaft when you get them
blank they are uncut you can tip from
you can trim from the butt end which is
where the end you hold or the tip end
which is the end that is installed into
the golf club right so this is just
talking about what happens when the end
installed into the head is is cut and
we've measured quarter of an inch
increments right and you've got some
examples here and you've picked
hand-picked some examples of golf shafts
that some people may know some people
may not but it's just a big array of
them basically I picked some shafts from
from ladies Flex up to like you know
really stiff double x's on tour type
stuff and uh you know it's interesting
to see what happens with them all some
of them change dramatically uh even
change the launch characteristics from
low to mid to mid to high whatever uh
and some of those change at all which is
really interesting and we never knew
that you know that's kind of an
interesting part of it so um I guess
we're we're super into detail you know
what cool clubs do is is different to
many other companies so we're dialing in
even when the lady golfer the junior
golfer comes in we're making sure that
the final product they receive works
well so people think I why am I
bothering tipping a ladies golf shaft
well let's start there yeah well
apparently there's not much reason to do
in a lot of cases because it doesn't
change it much okay great so so let's
kind of go through the list here I've
got a bunch of shafts on a big list here
um and we'll kind of go through them
they start with the lady shafts and
basically what we did is we took all
these different shafts and every shaft
that we sell actually it's in our our
thinning Matrix and we tipped them you
know basically zero quarter inch half
three quarters and an inch and we have
that in our database so we're actually
doing a fitting here at cool clubs we're
looking at you know specifically which
tip shaft is best so each shaft
basically becomes five different shafts
right yep
um and they all do slightly different
things and some do more and some do less
so the first ones I got up are here was
an Acura a real popular accurate shaft
this is an m zero so ladies Flex
um and on the old frequency or FM chart
you know it's like 1.0
um a five five was but back then was a
regular and a six five was a stiff
um but you know so obviously it's a very
soft shaft and what we got in this
column here is actual S3 Flex uh which
we go in you know ones right so 54 55 56
all the way up but we're publishing you
know the nearest ten and that'll be
another video we're coming out with
we're gonna basically give a list to the
industry anybody wants to look at it on
how stiff all these short shafts are
relative to each other because you
really can't just look at you know one
says stiff and one says regular I mean
they're literally stiffs that are way
too soft from any swing and they're
stiffs that are way too stiff for me
that's a huge variety stiff doesn't mean
anything it mostly means relative to
that brand you know the stiffest stiffer
than the regular it doesn't mean that
the stiff in this you know line of clubs
is stiffer than the stiff in that one
it's just terminal it's confusing yeah
it's a bit different and honestly it's
it's partially a marketing term 100 yeah
right I mean I remember years ago a big
OEM uh you know I was talking to that
does a lot of business in Japan and
stuff and we were talking about the
shaft flex and stuff and they told me
they're they're regular in the U.S is
labeled stiff in Japan just an ego thing
it's a different marketing thing no it's
just that's the marketing over there
they just Market them differently so
they actually same shaft right so which
one's right is it regular stiff well it
depends what Market you're in yeah
that's really not the way to look at it
in my opinion but but that's what
happens well and that's why you know
we've got luxury we've got this machine
we've got your knowledge we've got all
the fitter knowledge here we don't have
to abide by those rules anymore no no we
don't we go by our own scale basically
which is S3 playability number and like
I said we're going to publish those to
the nearest ten so you get an idea of
how stiff some are to another so watch
the website we'll have a lot of those
posted up there but you know we go into
detail on single numbers for what we do
for fitting so let's look at FM and and
like I say uh FM isn't the be all in
indoor it's just an understanding but
people would expect and when you say
tipping a golf shaft do you expect the
FM to increase which means you expect
the golf shaft to get exponentially
stifferent as you trim it off the tip
you typically think the the frequency or
FM is a version of that gets stiffer as
it gets tipped and some of them do but
some of them really don't so this light
itself literally doesn't really change
at all no no so it goes from 1.1 to 1.2
basically which is you know a tenth of a
flex almost nothing uh and you can see
by our published numbers you know we
publish this as a zero shaft Flex
um it's a low mid launching shaft
um you know relative to that Speed Most
everything's gonna be launching if
you're not bending it that much
um and obviously the the launch angle
goes down about a half a degree as you
tip it but as far as that the flex
really didn't change much the torque
went down a little bit uh the frequency
didn't change hardly at all so the
torque didn't even go down half a degree
no not not that much
um so not that big a change uh here's
another one the Acura is the M1 in the
same shaft just to see the difference
um this didn't change much either it
actually changed enough to change it
from a mid-launching shaft to a low
launching shaft accept it but as far as
its playability and how stiff it plays
it really didn't change much it went
from 2.3 to 2.3 tipping it and the talk
literally didn't adjust the tool so the
player can't really feel that either
yeah no that's not even noticeable so
basically these two shafts if you give
you one tipped an inch and one tipped uh
you know not at all you probably
couldn't even tell the difference the
machine basically almost can't tell and
it measures in hundreds of flexes yeah
it's an interesting thing okay uh next
shaft we got up here is kind of we went
into some senior shafts so this is the
new graphite design CQ
really high launching shaft which is
interesting because what we're kind of
seeing is these high launching shafts
with the very weak tips
um don't seem to change as much as some
of the other ones but this changes a
little bit so it goes on our scale
almost a full Flex actually right from a
15 all the way up to a 25 tipped it in
so this one does move a lot actually so
to give someone some context there you
know when you're jumping up a whole you
know 10 yeah that's like basically going
from a five five which you used to call
which was regular back then to a 6'5
it's a completely different Flex it's
like a whole different player and it
changes quite uh quite linear so you
Nick a little bit off and you get you
get the same amount as you trim it yeah
and most of that seems to happen
obviously you have a decent Club
different shafts made with decent
materials you know as you start tipping
off you know same same amount each time
similar sort of thing starts happening
yeah right it's not like you're taking a
quarter off there and a quarter off the
middle you know it's all coming from the
same spot so yeah so that shaft does get
you know goes for 15 to a 25 which is a
full Flex okay
um yeah and that then the cpms went up
almost the same so 2.8 up to 3.4 that's
a pretty substantial change yeah 0.6 is
you know six tenths of a flex uh it's
moving more than that because the torque
actually went down you know 0.4 which is
pretty substantial yeah it's almost a
half degree of torque that makes it play
quite a bit stiffer
um so the combination of the cpms going
up and the torque going down uh makes
this play quite a bit stiffer uh it's
still a high launching shaft it's a
super high launching shaft anyways it's
one of our highest protection shots yeah
it is actually Great Fairy with shaft
um so it's kind of maxing out on that
two number there but uh that's kind of
what happens then you've got this uh so
it basically goes from 15 to 25 in that
particular shaft
um here's another shaft that's uh
uh Platinum this is a Japanese Chef the
shaft we do really well with it's a
super high launching shaft really soft
it's actually again to kind of show you
the difference it's saying it's a stiff
yeah uh we're categoring as a senior
right so uh you know it's stiff relative
to the other ones in the Set uh but this
is a you know sub 50 gram some 40 gram
shaft yes um so it's super soft and the
tip's very soft so it's a super high
launching shaft uh but overall the flex
doesn't change at all it's basically a
25 all the way across the board you know
you're rounded to 30. uh and the cpms
don't change at all so it's just one of
those shops that you could you might as
well just have it straight in yeah it
doesn't make a lot of difference what
you do with it okay
um you know then we've got the next
shaft we got on here we got some regular
Flex shafts
um this is a cool Club shaft that we use
it's called a blue 50. this is basically
a blue board and the reason I put it up
here is everyone kind of knows the blue
board Mitsubishi yeah Mitsubishi kind of
in the middle it's not a high launch not
low launching it's a mid-launching shaft
this is a regular Flex so it's right in
the middle
of the specs you can see the uh
you know torque goes down a tiny bit so
it goes up almost about a half a flex
when you tip it an inch goes from a 39
to uh 42 so that's a little less than
half so it does move but not a ton
um and it definitely changes
um it's still mid-launch you know as as
you tip it more and more
um you know actually goes
that would be a little bit higher
actually which is interesting yeah as
you've tipped it in should essentially
go in a quarter of a degree higher than
what it did straight in right so yeah
it's a little different right and you
assume most every shaft goes lower and
they don't well and here's the thing I
think people should really know like
this is our secret sauce right so what
we're going to yeah exactly this is what
we get out this is why we don't get
returned to My Fit chats and the people
and they work right
um because we know what they actually do
when you do all this stuff and we're
just learning more and more in this last
year that we've been messing with
tipping we're learning a lot more about
what happens enough to change their
entire fitting system to to basically
look at all these tip shafts and what
they are individually not as uh you know
same shaft just tipped yeah like you
know you know bucketing everything into
this is what happens with high launch
regular and a live launch regular it's
just everything whatever happens that
particular shaft is is that changes the
software and what we recommend for
people so kind of interesting there and
then we've got uh here's another
Platinum the Platinum Four again it
doesn't move at all um it's still a
regular okay
um well I put this up too because this
is actually a platinum four stiff and
earlier we talked about Platinum three
stiff they both say stiff on them one
measures on a frequency scale about five
five and one's four oh so I mean they're
not the same shaft senior regular and
that's their volume one yeah exactly so
we're calling it a regular and it says
it's stiff on it and the other one with
the stiff we're calling them seniors I
mean you know what what it says on it
again kind of goes out the window so the
stiff tipped an inch in that golf shaft
the torque is that am I right they're
looking at the torque increasing
a little yeah I did actually a little
bit
um basically this must be some low
torque stuff in there to change a bit
yep the launch increased a little so
that's a really weird golf shaft yeah it
is a stranger off Jeff it's very soft in
the tip and it's super good materials
right this is a platinum this is their
high end of high-end so some different
things happen when you put really high
modulus material and light shafts and
it's something to think about as a
fitter when you're out there like
if you're trying to increase ball flight
this is really good information it's
like well if I'm trying to increase ball
flight don't tip tip this thing I need
to drop down an entire Flex I need to
keep it straight in you know there's
certain things
don't assume that you know tip in an
inch and it gets a half Flex zipper or
whatever because that's not the case
Okay um and then we've got some stiff
shafts in here again I used our cool
clubs blue because it's a blue board
it's very similar uh and you can tell
actually you know from from it's a
mid-high launching shaft once you get up
to about an inch it becomes a
mid-launching shaft okay so it does
change that but good few Cycles too it
went quite a few Cycles so it goes from
basically a 59 to a 65 so it goes about
a half a flex as you tip in an inch uh
and the frequency goes up about five
which is about a half a flex and um that
was kind of very unexpected talk went
down a little launch went down a little
right and you'll see that and the kind
of the standard looking EI curves you
see out there you know which a lot of
shafts are you know graphic design for
instance all of them are very similar
somewhere higher launching low but
they're all pretty traditional Eis as
you tip them they go up and they get
slowly stiffer and they go slowly lower
from the most part okay
So speaking of we've got another
graphite design we've got another
graphite design here we got a DI an
iconic shaft the reason I pulled this up
is you know everybody knows this one
tiger played it for a while the orange
shaft out there uh they even made a
Black Version now it's been around for a
while but it's still a great shaft and
so something we sell quite a bit of
actually and uh that goes down you know
if you look at the torque it goes from
2.9 down to 2.5 2.5 torque is a pretty
damn low slow there's a big field change
for it yeah that's a big feel change so
it gets quite a bit stiffer feeling for
sure
um you know the launch angle stays
pretty much the same it's neutral you
know this is uh basically zero so it's
right in the middle this is kind of
their version of the blue board you know
it's you know one of the most popular
shops out there uh and you'll see some
of these iconic shafts all have a
similar kind of very traditional looking
EI curve yeah
um and it goes up quite a bit stiffer
right goes from a 62 in our scale to a
69 so it goes up a little over
um
you know half a flex almost three
quarters of Flex from tipping it
um and obviously the frequency goes up
from five five to six two so that's you
know seven Cycles which is almost two
flexes as well yeah as far as just the
Cycles itself but all those things kind
of interact with it so that's pretty
traditional that's when a Club Fit is
messing with that one they're gonna get
what they think they're gonna get yeah
and that's what happens you know when
you get kind of standard shafts that you
know are
kind of a a normal looking EI curve you
know like a blue board or
a DI you kind of get what you think
you're going to get yeah and some of the
extremes they're really stiff tip stuff
or the really soft stiff stuff that
sometimes you don't get what you're
looking for so well let's look beware
there the stiffer stuff here then we're
going into x-flexes yep we're going to
Netflix's now and we've got like an
Acura here
um this goes from uh 71 to a 77 so it
jumps three quarters with flex
um which is quite a bit
he goes from 6.5 to 6.9 so half a flex
there
um pretty normal stuff there uh here's
some of the different ones there's a
Ventus blue TR so this is the lightest
version that is the latest one yep uh
second generation Ventus and let's see
this was a lot of people are going to be
thinking about putting this in the bag
or have this in the bag so really
popular shaft on Dora too CR and then
they're all probably dipped an inch but
the launched the launch indication there
is that it's actually going the other
way a little when you're trimming this
one the launch is it's definitely not
going down any lower it's almost no it's
actually going up going upwards yep and
I've had this experience so I had this
golf shaft and I thought oh can I get it
on tip it next time get a little lower
right no it just didn't do really
anything right it almost almost felt
like it was a bit it was a bit higher in
my hand and I was like oh okay that
didn't really work out as I wanted to
yeah so someone do opposite right so you
assume all shafts when you tip them are
going to go lower this one doesn't this
actually goes a little bit higher a
little higher and then the Ventus blue
eight yeah this is a beast right so this
is something else on 90 in our scale
which is a true 4X give someone a swing
speed you know it's 115 120 miles an
hour 25 maybe I mean this is about to
drive up yeah the driver yeah
um you know it's a real low torque shaft
it's 2.4 to begin with it goes down to
2.2
um this you know playability numbers are
90 on ours you know overall in the shaft
and you know this is a really beefy
shaft it goes from six seven to seven
seven so it goes up 10 Cycles
um so it does change this shaft quite a
bit that's amazing and it's funny thing
again again though with these vintage
products well at least aventus blue
stuff that we're looking at here right
is the launch
goes almost backwards on itself a little
bit Yeah the more you tip it the more
you almost get a little bit oh yeah just
one of the reason is that you know
that's such a strong material they've
got the tip there but Bella core stuff
they got wrapped and you know it's a
very stiff stiff tip shaft uh most of
the really low launching for the most
part even the red is not really a low
launching shaft
um but yeah that's that's really what
happens it gets so you're trimming out
all the uh the good stuff taking off the
really stiff tip and all the really good
material land tip and it actually does
the opposite it makes it go higher
because you're taking that part out of
it so someone someone might be playing
that in a in a fairway wood and it would
be good to increase the sorry to
decrease the torque a little bit for a
fair way I would but if you you know
you're trying to knock the ball flight
down in the driver or straight in is
going to be your best a little lower
yeah exactly
crazy stuff interesting stuff right I uh
I'm glad that I'm on this side of the of
the uh of the coin here and I've got all
the information to know how to build
these golf clubs like this is this is
pretty cool and obviously this is just
such a small selection we've got this
data on everything yeah 44 500 chats or
so on the database and stuff so we have
this on I haven't done tipping on all of
them but all the ones we carry that we
stock and sell yeah we're definitely
tipping them all now see what they do
yeah and I guess like a wrap up here is
that for your peace of mind after a
fitting our Builders have this
information so they know that what the
intention of the fitter was is what the
builders are going to see and they know
how to build the products the best way
yeah um that's what's going to turn into
the club that you receive is going to do
what you thought it was going to do yeah
and that's that's the most important
thing so let's reconvene we're going to
talk about some specific shaft families
maybe some tipping within those specific
shell families to see what they do and
and yeah just hang in there for for more
information about government in general
zipping the standard shafts the kind of
middle ones seem to do what they kind of
think but some of the extreme shafts the
high launching ones and low launching
ones watch out when you tip them they
can do some different stuff is anyone
want to find out let's uh come see us
yeah yeah that's about it right thanks
Bob all right cheers
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