Sebulan Ribut Soal Royalti, Ahmad Dhani dan Once Mekel Akhirnya Bertemu | Liputan 6
Summary
TLDRIn a heated discussion on royalty issues, musician Ahmad Dhani and Once Michael met on Liputan 6, moderated by Azizah Hanum. Dhani claimed that Once never sought permission or paid royalties for using songs from Dewa 19, which he created. Once, as a performer, argued that they had already paid royalties to the song creators through collective management agencies, as stipulated by copyright law. Dhani emphasized the importance of moral permission and suggested raising the royalty percentage from 2% to 10% for fairness. The conversation highlighted the difference between the creator's and performer's perspectives on royalties, which are earnings from past works, not just daily income.
Takeaways
- đ€ Ahmad Dhani and Once Michael had a meeting regarding the royalty dispute after a month of controversy.
- đŹ Ahmad Dhani believes Once never asked for permission or paid royalties for using songs from Dewa 19, which he mostly created.
- đ” Once, as a performer, feels they have already paid the song creators' royalties through a collective management agency according to the law.
- đ There is a disagreement on whether Once should have asked for permission directly from Ahmad Dhani or if paying through an agency suffices.
- đ€ The meeting was mediated by Azizah Hanum from Liputan 6, aiming to resolve the conflict.
- đ« Once has not been performing Dewa 19's songs since leaving the group in 2010, which is a logical consequence of their departure.
- đ Ahmad Dhani mentions that he always makes contracts for performances, specifying that royalty payments are the responsibility of the organizer.
- đ° There is a suggestion by Ahmad Dhani to increase the royalty percentage from the current 2% to perhaps 10%, considering the contributions made.
- đ€ The conversation highlights the difference between the positions of the presenter and the creator when it comes to royalties.
- đ Royalty is not income from the day's work but rather earnings from past work, as emphasized by Ahmad Dhani.
- đ The discussion implies a need for better understanding and adherence to the royalty payment system by all parties involved.
Q & A
What was the main issue discussed in the Liputan 6 meeting between Ahmad Dhani and Once Michael?
-The main issue discussed was the royalty dispute over the use of the songs from Dewa 19, which were mostly created by Ahmad Dhani.
What is Ahmad Dhani's stance on Once Michael's use of Dewa 19's songs?
-Ahmad Dhani believes that Once Michael never asked for permission or paid royalties for using the songs he created.
How does Once Michael justify his actions regarding the use of Dewa 19's songs?
-Once Michael, as a performer, felt that he had already paid the songwriter's royalties through the collective management agency, as per the regulations set by the copyright law.
What does Ahmad Dhani suggest should be done to improve the current royalty system?
-Ahmad Dhani suggests that the percentage of royalties collected by the collective management agency should be increased, for example, from 2% to 10%, to better consider the creators' contributions.
What is the difference between the positions of the performer and the songwriter in terms of royalties according to the script?
-The performer's position is that they have fulfilled their obligation by paying through the collective management agency, while the songwriter's position is that royalties are a form of income derived from past work and should be more fairly distributed.
What is the implication of Once Michael leaving Dewa 19 in 2010 for the use of their songs?
-Once Michael leaving Dewa 19 implies that logically, he should not be performing Dewa 19's songs without proper permission post his departure.
What is the role of the collective management agency in the royalty dispute?
-The collective management agency is responsible for managing and distributing royalties to the creators, as per the regulations set by the copyright law.
How does Ahmad Dhani describe his approach to performing with Dewa 19's songs?
-Ahmad Dhani always makes a contract for performances, specifying that the responsibility for royalty payment is through the collective management agency, in accordance with the existing laws.
What is the ethical aspect discussed in the script regarding the use of Dewa 19's songs?
-The ethical aspect discussed is that even if Once Michael contributed to the creation of the songs, he should morally ask for permission from the original creator before performing them.
What is the definition of royalties as mentioned in the script?
-Royalties are defined as income derived from the results of work done in the past, rather than income from the day's work.
What is the suggestion made by Ahmad Dhani regarding the handling of the royalty dispute?
-Ahmad Dhani suggests a constructive approach, such as negotiating a higher percentage of royalties and considering the different positions of the presenter and the creator in the royalty distribution.
Outlines
đ” Music Royalties Dispute
This paragraph discusses a dispute over music royalties between musician Ahmad Dhani and Once Michael, which was aired on Liputan 6. Ahmad Dhani believes that Once never asked for permission or paid royalties for using songs from Dewa 19, most of which were created by him. Once, as a performer, argues that they have already paid royalties to the song creators through a collective management agency, in accordance with copyright law. The conversation touches on the lack of permission from Once to use Dewa's songs and the moral responsibility involved. Ahmad Dhani also mentions that he always makes a contract for performances, specifying that the responsibility for royalty payment lies with the organizer, and suggests that the percentage of royalties collected could be increased for a fairer system.
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Keywords
đĄRoyalty
đĄPermission
đĄCopyright
đĄCollective Management Organization
đĄMoral Rights
đĄContribution
đĄPerformance Rights
đĄContract
đĄIntellectual Property
đĄEthics
đĄResponsible Party
Highlights
Ahmad Dhani and Once Michael had a dispute over royalty payments for the use of Dewa 19 songs.
Ahmad Dhani claims that Once never asked for permission or paid royalties for using his songs.
Once, as a performer, believes they have already paid royalties through a collective management agency.
The legal framework and moral ethics are discussed regarding the payment of royalties to the song creators.
Ahmad Dhani emphasizes that Once never asked for permission to use Dewa 19 songs.
Once argues that they have contributed to the songs and therefore should not be morally obligated to ask for permission.
Ahmad Dhani suggests that Once should have stopped performing Dewa 19 songs after leaving the band in 2010.
Once's departure from Dewa 19 should have logically led to them not performing the band's songs.
Ahmad Dhani proposes that the royalty payment system should be reconsidered and possibly increased.
A possible increase in the royalty percentage from 2% to 10% is suggested by Ahmad Dhani.
Ahmad Dhani has communicated his concerns and suggestions to Mas Dani via WhatsApp.
The transcript discusses the difference between the positions of performers and creators regarding royalties.
Royalties are described as income from past work, not from the day's work.
Ahmad Dhani stresses the importance of understanding the difference between the roles of presenters and creators in royalty distribution.
The transcript highlights the need for a more constructive approach to royalty payment discussions.
Ahmad Dhani mentions that he always makes a contract for performances, specifying royalty payment responsibilities.
The transcript suggests that there may be challenges from the industry or promoters regarding the proposed changes in the royalty system.
Ahmad Dhani expresses his willingness to accept a system with a higher royalty percentage.
Transcripts
setelah sebulan ribut soal royalti
musisi Ahmad Dhani dan Once Michael
akhirnya bertemu dalam Liputan 6 tox
yang dipadu rekan kami Azizah Hanum
Ahmad Dhani menganggap Once tidak pernah
mengajukan izin dan membayar royalti
dalam penggunaan lagu-lagu Dewa 19 yang
sebagian besar diciptakan Ahmad Dhani
sebaliknya sebagai pelaku pertunjukan
atau performer Once merasa sudah
membayarkan royalti pencipta lagu
melalui lembaga manajemen kolektif
negara atau lmkn sesuai dengan ketentuan
yang diatur dalam undang-undang hak
cipta
etika moral memang Once nggak pernah
izin sama saya gitu dan gua bawa lagu
Dewa ya di konser gua mau satu mau dua
kan harusnya ada izin Nah kalau saya
kalau saya ngomong gitu kan bukan
berarti jelek-jelek itu faktanya memang
seperti itu gitu kan waktunya memang
seperti itu memang gak pernah izin bawa
lagu Dewa gitu dan itu nggak ada
hubungannya sama kontribusi
lagu itu milik Ahmad Dhani gitu
nggak bisa direduksi bahwa karena Once
punya punya punya
kontribusi lalu nggak izin secara moral
ngomong dulu ya gitu kalau ngomong kan
kita bisa tanya Berapa bayaran lu ya kan
Berapa bayaran lu bawa bawa lagu Dewa
gitu kan karena kan Once kan udah keluar
dari dewa jadi kembali lagi dari awal
ketika Once sudah menyatakan diri keluar
dari dewa tahun 2010 harusnya
konsekuensi logisnya itu dia tidak
menyanyikan lagu Dewa 19 itu konsekuensi
kecil logis yang harus kita pahami
bersama kalau mau nyanyi ya minta izin
minimal sama pengarang lagunya saya atau
Andra gitu itu kan moral ya kan itu kan
tidak terlaksana gitu loh jadi gini saya
setiap kali manggung saya selalu bikin
kontrak
di dalam kontrak itu pada ketentuan
bahwa tanggung jawab pembayaran royalti
itu adalah melalui eo dan itu
undang-undang kita yang berlaku ya jadi
memang tanggung jawab itu ada di pihak
io
di situlah memang sosialisasi atau apa
ini mungkin sikap dari io kebanyakan ini
belum taat
di samping itu Sebenarnya saya itu
konstruktif kok
Saya pernah bilang ke Mas Dani lewat
WhatsApp daripada nagih begitu mendingan
bilang aja mau layernya
Buatlah satu ketentuan supaya
persentase yang 2% itu dinaikkan
misalnya 10% gitu ya harus juga
dipertimbangkan untuk itu tentu ini
mungkin akan ada
tantangan dari pihak io atau promotor
tapi saya kira itu wajar-wajar saja
supaya sistem yang sedang dibangun ini
Oke dan saya bisa terima itu sistem
pengumpulan ini dengan persentase yang
lebih besar Cuma yang memang harus
dimengerti ini yang saya suka pikirin
bahwa posisi penyaji dan pencipta itu
berbeda dalam hal ini royalti itu
royalti itu bukan penghasilan yang
didapat dari hasil kerja hari itu
royalti itu adalah pendapatan yang
didapatkan dari hasil kerja di
waktu-waktu yang lalu
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