Which Starlink is Better on a Boat? Maritime, RV, High Performance In-Motion or Residential?
Summary
TLDRThis video script explores the viability of using Starlink's satellite internet on recreational boats, comparing four different offerings. It discusses factors like cost, performance, power consumption, and installation considerations. The script provides recommendations for different boater types, from weekend warriors to hardcore liveaboard cruisers, and touches on the potential of the maritime solution for commercial vessels. The goal is to demystify Starlink options for boaters and aid in choosing the right setup for varying needs.
Takeaways
- 🚀 Starlink currently does not have a dedicated offering for recreational boaters but has coverage up to 10 miles off the coastline.
- 📈 The script discusses four different Starlink offerings, aiming to clarify which might be best suited for various boating scenarios.
- 💰 The residential dish costs $599 for equipment with a $110 monthly fee, plus a $25 portability feature for boat use.
- 🔌 The residential dish has a power consumption of 45-75 Watts, similar to a standard radar.
- 📡 The residential dish is 11x20 inches and has a pole with motors for easy home installation, which could be problematic on a boat due to movement.
- 🌊 The residential dish has an IP54 water resistance rating and can withstand winds up to 50 mph.
- 🚤 The RV dish costs $600 with a $135 monthly fee, no wait for availability, and pause capability, but also operates on best effort speeds.
- 🔋 The RV dish has the same power consumption and size as the residential dish but can be modified for better water and wind resistance.
- 💨 The high-performance in-motion dish costs $2500 with a $135 monthly fee, supports speeds up to 300 megabits per second, and has a power consumption of 110-150 Watts.
- 🛳 The maritime dish is commercial-grade, costing $10,000 for equipment and $5000 per month, offering global support and high-performance with no throttling.
- 🔧 Recommendations are given for different boater types, from near-shore recreational to hardcore liveaboard cruisers, considering factors like performance, cost, and installation.
Q & A
What is the purpose of the video script?
-The purpose of the video script is to demystify the four different offerings of Starlink and determine which one makes the most sense for different types of boaters to use on their boats.
What are the eight areas discussed in the video to compare Starlink offerings?
-The eight areas discussed are costs, performance, power consumption, size of the dishes, water resistance rating, wind resistance rating, installation considerations, and in-motion support.
What is the cost for the residential Starlink dish and its monthly usage?
-The residential Starlink dish costs $599 for the equipment and has a monthly usage fee of $110, with an additional $25 per month for the portability feature when used on a boat.
What is the 'best effort mode' mentioned for the residential Starlink dish on a boat?
-The 'best effort mode' means that while the dish can provide great performance in low congested areas, it may be throttled down to 1 to 10 megabits per second in high congested areas or near large structures like cruise ships.
How does the phased array technology used by Starlink differ from traditional satellite dishes?
-Phased array technology electronically tracks satellites in low orbit, unlike traditional satellite dishes that need to point precisely to stationary satellites in geostationary orbit.
What is the power consumption for the residential and RV Starlink dishes?
-The power consumption for both the residential and RV Starlink dishes is between 45 to 75 Watts.
What is the difference between the RV dish and the residential dish in terms of service flexibility?
-The RV dish allows for pausing the service when not in use and does not require waiting for availability, unlike the residential dish.
What is the cost of the high-performance in-motion Starlink dish?
-The high-performance in-motion Starlink dish costs $2500 for the equipment and has a monthly service fee of $135.
What is the power consumption range for the maritime Starlink dish?
-The maritime Starlink dish has a power consumption range of 220 to 300 Watts.
What is the main advantage of the maritime Starlink offering for commercial users?
-The maritime Starlink offering provides high-speed, reliable internet access with in-motion support and is designed to support global open water usage, making it ideal for commercial vessels like cargo ships and cruise lines.
How does the video script suggest integrating Starlink with other internet connections for redundancy?
-The script suggests using a router, like a Peplink, that can combine Starlink connections with cellular data plans to provide data redundancy and ensure consistent internet access.
Outlines
🛥️ Introduction to Starlink for Boaters
Starlink hasn't released a dedicated service for recreational boaters, but coverage is available up to 10 miles offshore. This video aims to clarify the four available Starlink options for boats, considering various factors like costs, performance, and installation. The goal is to help boaters choose the best Starlink solution based on their unique needs and boat usage.
💻 Residential Dish Overview
The residential dish costs $599 for equipment and $110 per month, with an additional $25 for portability. It offers up to 150 Mbps download speed at home but switches to 'best effort mode' on a boat, potentially reducing speed in congested areas. Power consumption ranges from 45 to 75 watts. The dish's motorized pole can be problematic for boats, causing dropouts when repositioning. Starlink's phased array technology helps track satellites, but the dish still needs to be mounted with consideration to boat movement.
🌊 Flat Dish Innovation and Water Resistance
A firmware update allows the dish to lay flat, improving performance and reducing dropouts on boats. The residential dish has an IP54 water resistance rating and a wind rating of up to 50 mph. Installation options vary from simple tripod setups to custom mounts. The dish is not officially supported for in-motion use, but it can work up to 8.5 knots before losing service, making it suitable for slow-moving vessels.
🚐 RV Dish and Modifications
The RV dish costs $600 and $135 per month, with the benefit of pausing service when not in use. It always operates in 'best effort mode,' with speeds up to 150 Mbps in low-congestion areas. The power consumption and size are the same as the residential dish. Some users modify the dish to improve water and wind resistance, though it voids the warranty. In-motion support is functional up to 8.5 knots, similar to the residential dish.
🏞️ High-Performance RV Dish
The high-performance RV dish costs $2500 for equipment and $135 per month. It offers speeds up to 300 Mbps and improved water and wind resistance (IP56 and 174 mph, respectively). The dish draws more power (110-150 watts) and is larger, with better performance due to a wider field of view. It supports in-motion use without speed dropouts, making it ideal for long passages.
🚢 Maritime Dish for Commercial Use
The maritime dish setup includes two large flat dishes, costing $10,000 for equipment and $5000 per month. It offers 300+ Mbps without 'best effort' throttling, high power consumption (220-300 watts), and improved water and wind resistance. The installation requires careful spacing to avoid interference. This solution is aimed at commercial vessels like cargo ships and cruise lines, with global open water support planned.
🛠️ Installation and Obstacle Considerations
Choosing the right Starlink dish involves considering obstacles like masts and radars that can interfere with signal reception. Testing temporary installations before committing is recommended to ensure optimal placement. Boaters should also have backup installation spots to avoid obstructions and maximize connectivity.
🏖️ Near Shore Recreational Boaters
For weekend and occasional boaters, a residential dish with added portability or the standard RV option is recommended. Simple installation methods like tripods or custom mounts are suggested. These users are generally okay with occasional short dropouts.
🌍 Extended Cruisers and Liveaboards
These users need reliable internet for both personal and limited work use, including Zoom calls. The standard RV dish with a cellular backup is recommended for redundancy. Modifying the dish for a flat mount can enhance performance and durability, though it voids the warranty.
🏝️ Hardcore Liveaboard Cruisers
For remote workers needing uninterrupted internet, the high-performance in-motion dish is recommended. Alternatively, two modified RV dishes combined with a router for redundancy can be used. This setup offers greater reliability and performance, essential for professional work on the water.
🛳️ Conclusion and Commercial Use
The video concludes by emphasizing the suitability of the maritime dish for commercial users like cargo ships and cruise lines due to its high cost and performance. Viewers are encouraged to like and subscribe for future videos on installation and integration of different internet solutions for boats.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Starlink
💡Coverage Map
💡Portability Feature
💡Best Effort Mode
💡Power Consumption
💡IP Rating
💡Wind Resistance Rating
💡In-Motion Support
💡Maritime Solution
💡Redundancy
💡Phased Array
Highlights
Starlink currently does not have a dedicated offering for recreational boaters, but coverage extends about 10 miles off the coastline.
The decision on which Starlink offering to use on a boat can be overwhelming due to the different ways boats are used.
The video aims to demystify the four different Starlink offerings by discussing costs, performance, power consumption, dish size, water and wind resistance ratings, installation considerations, and in-motion support.
All Starlink offerings come with a Wi-Fi router and operate on 120 volts.
The residential dish costs $599 for equipment and $110 per month, with an additional $25 for portability on a boat.
Residential dish users may experience 'best effort' mode on boats, leading to variable download speeds.
The residential dish draws 45 to 75 Watts, similar to a standard radar, and has a pole that can be problematic on boats due to movement.
Starlink dishes use phased array technology to electronically track satellites, unlike traditional satellite dishes.
The RV dish costs $600 for equipment and $135 per month, with no wait for availability and the ability to pause service.
The RV dish also operates on 'best effort' speeds and has the same power consumption as the residential dish.
The RV dish can be modified for flat mounting on boats, improving water resistance and wind rating.
The high-performance in-motion dish costs $2500 for equipment and $135 per month, with support for speeds up to 300 megabits per second.
The high-performance in-motion dish has a higher power consumption of 110 to 150 Watts and is larger in size, offering a 140-degree view of the sky.
The maritime dish is a commercial offering at $10,000 for equipment and $5000 per month, with no throttling and support for global open water.
The maritime dish has an IP65 water resistance rating and a wind resistance of 174 miles per hour.
Recommendations for different boater types include the standard RV Edition for near-shore recreational boaters and the high-performance in-motion dish for hardcore liveaboard cruisers.
For commercial users like cargo ships and cruise lines, the maritime solution is the most suitable.
Transcripts
so as of right now starlink hasn't come
out with a dedicated offering for
recreational boaters but if you look at
their coverage map it's pretty clear
that there is coverage about 10 miles
off the coastline so
it really leaves it up to us to figure
out out of four different offerings
which one makes the most sense to put on
a boat and while that's exciting it's
also a bit overwhelming
all you have to do is walk down a dock
and even though we're all boaters it's
pretty simple to see that we use our
boats in very different ways which
compounds the complexity of making this
decision and it can be paralyzing so the
goal of this video is we're going to
demystify the four different offerings
of starlinks to do that we'll talk about
eight different areas including costs
performance power consumption the size
of these dishes water resistance rating
wind resistance rating installation
considerations and in motion support on
top of it we're going to drop them into
four different scenarios of different
types of boaters and how they might use
Star Lake on their boat hopefully by the
end of it
it's going to be crystal clear as to
which one makes the most sense for you
so before we jump into the differences
of these four starlink offerings let's
talk about the similarity they all come
with a Wi-Fi router so you can connect
your devices to it the other one is that
they run on 120 volts
now the first offering that we'll speak
to is the residential dish this thing
costs 599 dollars for the equipment 110
dollars per month to be able to use your
home but if you're going to use it on
your boat you have to add what they call
the portability feature for 25 a month
this is pretty cool if you already have
a starlink to be able to dip your toe in
the water so to speak to try this out
but it probably isn't an option for most
of us because most areas are already
oversubscribed for residential starlink
until they get more satellites up in the
sky to be able to take on more capacity
now with this option
um generally when you're at home you can
get up to 150 megabits per second of
download speed that's party darn good
however uh when you put it on your boat
it shifts into what they call best
effort mode and this best effort mode
means that you'll still get that great
performance unit if you're in a low
congested area but if you're in a high
congested area if you're more next to a
cruise ship or if you are in a high
density area like a city then you may be
throttled down to 1 to 10 megabits per
second it's what we've seen which is it
can be fairly disappointing and
discouraging when when you're in those
areas now switching to power consumption
it's about 45 to 75 Watts that these
draw that's about what your standard
radar would draw so that's not too hard
on your batteries through an inverter or
certainly not an issue if you're on
Shore power
now since this is a residential dish it
is 11 inches by 20 inches and it has
what can be problematic on a boat and
that is this pole that comes out the
back and it has Motors that makes it
really easy to install it on your house
because all you have to do is give it a
fairly good direct line of sight to the
North and then the dish will adjust
itself nicely to really get the best
performance of the the exposure to the
satellites in your area
however this can be problematic if you
think about a boat and you go anchor out
um you know within an hour especially
with you know tired exchanges or wins
you may point every direction on the
compass within an hour and that means
that the dish is going to have to drop
its signal and readjust over that time
and that means you have dropouts and
that can be frustrating so this is where
it's important to explain the difference
between the technology that starlink
uses and what the traditional type of
satellite dishes uh used and what I mean
by that is the traditional satellites
would have to point very precisely to a
stationary satellite that was in orbit
to be able to receive and transmit a
signal now start link because you've got
satellites zipping around all over the
place in low orbit uses what they call a
phased array and so this flat phased
array electronically tracks the
satellites up in yeah orbit
now you might say well why the heck did
they point it to the North if it's doing
that well they used to have a very thin
uh constellation of satellites and they
are predominantly from the equator
northward as well in their positioning
so now that there's so many satellites
up there we have got to the point where
laying a starlink dish flat
um actually has better performance lower
dropouts and has really created
um an evolution of the hardware that
makes it perfect for boats our link is
taken advantage of this with a recent
firmware update for the dish that when
it senses slight movement instead of
trying to reposition it actually takes
itself and goes completely horizontal or
flat so let's move on to the water
resistance rating this dish is an
ip54 which means it can take a direct
splash of water to it and the wind
rating is up to 50 miles an hour the
installation can be as simple and what I
consider precarious is taking the
standard tripod that ships with your
dish and just putting on your bow and
there are different implementations that
we've seen as well where people will
take the pull of the dish and put it in
a fishing rod holder all the way up to
adapters that are custom made to be able
to have your dish snap into and then
screw on to a standard Marine one inch
antenna holder
then we get into the the portability
side of the house when we think about in
motion portability means you can move it
one place to to the other but it doesn't
mean that you can use it in motion in
fact the terms of service say that it is
not supported for emotion now in
practicality we found that it's actually
functional up to about 8.5 knots before
starlink will drop the service on you
and when I say that they don't
permanently drop the service but you
need to stop moving before it's going to
pick back up now for a trawler or a
sailboat or on the hook that works out
just fine but it is something to keep in
mind
the next offering is the RV dish so this
one costs 600 for the equipment and it's
135 dollars a month cool part is you
don't have to wait for availability on
it and the other one is you can pause
the service when you're not using your
boat so that 135 dollars and I could get
nailed for that every month it's only
during the months that you're using it
the downside is this is always best
effort speeds so if you're in a
non-congested area we've seen great
performance out of this dish up to 150
megabits per second however if you're in
a highly congested area or you have a
cruise ship that's nearby you can be
capped from that 1 to 10 megabits per
second
from a power conception standpoint it is
exactly the same 45 to 75 Watts power
consumption like the residential one
because it is basically the same
equipment the same thing goes for the
size of the equipment this is exactly
the same as that residential one however
since this is a dedicated dish you do
see a lot of people that are starting to
modify them to be able to go on their
boat and make them a flat dish water
resistance
obviously why people end up doing this
type of modification is it improves the
water resistance and it also improves
the wind rating as well because it's not
on a pole getting blown around the last
thing is again the installation is
identical of what you might do with the
the residential one unless of course
you've modified it to be a flat dish in
that case uh you know you're just going
to mount it to the top of your boat
Mobility again cuts off support after
eight and a half knots
which brings us to the RV dish that has
in motion support now that seems pretty
exciting because that's a lot different
than the other two offerings that we
talked about so far but there's also
another difference that's not quite as
exciting and that's the price it's 2500
for the equipment now the good part is
it's still only 135 dollars a month for
the service you don't have to wait for
availability again you can pause the
service when you're not using it and it
is subject to the best effort speeds
however when we talk about performance
the one thing that's different is this
particular dish can see speeds up to 300
megabits per second in fact I've seen
much higher speeds in practice when
we're out in non-congested areas but
again it can be as low as 1 to 10
megabits per second if we're in highly
congested areas now the power
consumption is a big difference here too
and it's not definitely in a good way
it draws from 110 watts to 150 watts and
that's some serious draw in fact even so
much so the cable that they use for this
dish is is physically larger to be able
to deal with that additional power
consumption
now you know for a boat like ours we
have a 10 kilowatt inverter with 21
kilowatt hours of lithium phosphate
batteries so again for us it's not that
big of a deal but for an average boat
that had let has lead acid batteries or
limited wattage on their inverter this
could be this could be an exclusionary
uh type of requirement when you think
about this this larger dish and when I
say larger I'm not messing around this
thing is 22 inches by 20 inches it's
basically twice the size of the standard
RV or residential dish that extra size
gives you an upside especially when we
think about performance it has a 140
degree view of the sky so it's an
additional 40 degrees of being able to
capture the skyline and that means it
has less dropouts and it deals with
obstructions much better
so that basically equates to just
greater dependability uh when you're at
anchor or in tight anchorages and the
water resistance is another rating that
actually improves above the standard RV
or residential one
and it has an ip56
rating which basically means it can
handle a direct water spray
now if you think that's a nice
Improvement when we think about the
durability the wind rating is really a
significant Improvement it goes from the
50 mile an hour rating of the
residential or RV standard to 174 miles
an hour so if you're in areas that have
high winds or subject to hurricanes this
is a game changer now the reason that it
can deal with these types of differences
and has this higher rating is because it
is a flat dish and it mounts that way on
the top of your boat there's a wedge
Mount that has about an eight degree
slant to it so that it helps shed not
only rain and hail but snow as well and
we've actually seen this in practice and
it does a pretty darn good job when the
heaters are engaged on the dish
so the implementation on the
installation is a lot more elegant when
we're thinking about putting on a boat
and it has a nice watertight gland for
the cable that it goes in the only thing
that I would say that is a little
awkward is that they have the cable
entering the front of the dish which it
just
and it just doesn't look tidy so if I
had to you know give any feedback to the
engineers I think I'd have have them put
that that cable that plugs into the dish
somewhere underneath the dish or the
back or something but that that just
don't like the way that it looks now
when we talk about in motion support
this is a big change as well when we
think about the previous two offerings
in that it literally does support in
motion so there's no longer that cut off
at eight and a half knots so if you're
making long passages and to different
destinations and you need to be on
meetings or being able to leverage
connection to the Internet it's pretty
nice being able to have that and not
worrying about being dropped out
which brings us to our last offering and
this is the maritime dish
is I should say it actually has two of
these large flat dishes now when we talk
about the cost this is staggering uh and
this is the reason why I separate it
from the recreational boaters and into
this commercial offering it is ten
thousand dollars for the equipment and
it is five thousand dollars per month
um now the good side is if uh you have
this particular plan you can pause this
service so when you're doing refits or
the vessel is not in service you can
actually shut that down but that's a
pretty eye-watering difference when we
think about the actual cost the
performance
it when we think about that there is no
longer this best effort uh throttling so
these dishes can truly get that 300 plus
megabit per second download uh
performance that you would expect and
and that's the whole idea of the support
of this and why it costs so much more
um the power consumption is staggering
uh you now have two of these dishes so
you're talking about 220 to 300 watts
that's a serious draw but any vessel
that these two dishes are going to be
sitting on they have more than enough
power through having generators running
or extremely deep battery reserves and
inversion so it's not going to be that
big of a deal for them
and we think about the size like I said
these are 22 by 20 inch dishes and
there's two of them and there has to be
a consideration about how close you can
put these together because they will
interfere with one another we've seen in
practice under four feet that they will
actually block each other however the
installation manual from starlink says
that they need to be 14 feet away from
each other generally speaking any both
of these things are going to be going on
having a 14 foot differential is
probably not that big of a problem but
it is something that you're going to
have to be thinking again about the
water resistance again is ip65 and the
wind resistance is 174 miles per hour
the final difference with the maritime
offering is that not only does it
support in motion but ultimately it will
support uh globally all open water
oceans they still need to put a lot more
satellites up in the sky and be able to
get clearance from different countries
for their near shore access But
ultimately that is the goal with the
maritime solution that none of the other
Solutions will be offering
before we talk about which dish makes
the most sense for the different type of
Cruisers we do want to point out that
you really want to take into
consideration different obstacles that
you'll have on your very unique boat and
when I say that think about Hilliards
think about your masts your Radars those
types of things if you have a masked
sailboater you definitely want to move
that dish as far away from that Mast to
to minimize the obstruction that it
creates for the dish everybody tends to
have Radars if you think about Radars
they can have as much as a six degree
beam coming from that that radar and it
if your starlink is in the path of that
beam it'll block it we've seen more than
a handful of times where people have
struggled with that so think about not
only a
preferred area to put your dish but have
a couple backup areas as well because
when you do buy your dish you're going
to want to do a temporary install to
make sure that you don't have any
obstructions or issues with things like
radar
first one is near shore recreational
boaters these folks tend to go out for
the weekend maybe a couple weeks for the
year they're going to want to be able to
stream videos surf the web and be able
to read emails it's not going to be a
big deal to them if they have a few two
second to 15 second dropouts during the
day they're just stoked to be able to
have internet on their boat now the next
one is extended Cruisers or liverboards
now they not only want to have the same
access to the internet there are other
recreational folks too but they're also
going to be doing some work related
items as well as some limited Zoom calls
having those dropouts for two to two
seconds to 15 seconds a few times during
the day again isn't going to be a big
deal for them and that brings us to the
third type of boater these are hardcore
liverboard Cruisers so these folks tend
to work remotely they need to have
access to the internet not only for
personal reasons but they're doing a lot
of work they're super dependent on video
conferencing and they can't have those
dropouts at all during the day because
it creates a non-professional experience
for their team members that they're
working with and their clients as well
that being said here are our
recommendations by the four different
voter types number one the near shore
recreational weekend boater again lots
of stream video have a connection to the
internet and be able to check email I'm
not worried about some 2 to 15 second
dropouts a few times during the day if I
had a residential dish already the
easiest thing to do is add portability
buy an additional cable
and a router
and just put it on the bow with your
tripod and call it quits yeah you're
you're in good shape
um you know obviously not all of us have
that option so that puts us into
recommending the the standard RV option
personally I would buy that and I would
get a permanent out for it
um the fishing pole one or putting on
the tripod it works but in the long run
putting a nice proper adapter on that
the starlight can snap into screws into
a standard Marine one inch antenna mount
and running your wires in your boat like
you would any of your electronics makes
the most sense
in our perspective
which brings us to
the extended cruising or liver boarder
group they want to be able to stream
video
have access to the internet as well as
be able to do some Zoom meetings but
we're again not worried about a few
dropouts of 2 to 15 seconds per day
our recommendation but again
B to get the standard RV Edition
I probably would complement that with a
router that has a cellular data plan and
can combine the network connection to
the internet with the starlink and the
cellular plan that creates a higher
level of redundancy between the two of
those the other option that I might go
with is to modify that dish so that it
is a flat Mount improving not only the
consistency of connection the waterproof
rating as well as the wind rating it
does void your warranty but you know at
the end of the day it's probably going
to be a more robust and elegant solution
for you when you think about mounting it
on the boat I will say uh moving into
the the next category which is our
hardcore liverboard Cruisers and those
who are working remotely and just can't
have the the dropouts and that others
can have in the the previous two
categories because they're so highly
dependent upon video conferencing in
this instance I I have two maybe three
options that I'm going to recommend so
the first one is get the high
performance in motion dish you increase
the the performance you reduce your
dropouts
it's still 135 dollars per month but it
really increases the durability of the
dish I think the trade-off is is
worthwhile when you think about the
price
another option is to get two of the
regular
RV offerings
have the The Backs cut off of those and
mount those independently you'd probably
be into those with the modifications for
about a thousand dollars per dish here
at two thousand dollars now
you're still 500 in the black but what I
would do then is I would buy a router
like a pep link that would be able to
combine those two internet connections
again and have redundancy between the
two dishes which would really help out
with consistency of connection again you
give up your warranty there's that
trade-off so it might make more sense to
just get the the single uh high
performance wedge Mount flat dish
I'm sure the question is going to be
what the heck have you done well on the
Lei we have gone with that hardcore
liverboard implementation that has a in
motion high performance RV Dish as well
as a map modified flat mount
standard RV dish and that is fully
integrated with three Cellular
Connections to be able to provide data
redundancy as well so that means if we
are in a highly congested area that our
starlinks are not able to to perform
because of the data throttling and best
effort that means we have great coverage
and redundancy with our cellular data
plans the farthest reaches of British
Columbia and desolation sound which has
no cell coverage whatsoever and with our
redundant
starlink offerings going through a
solution that that binds together both
of those internet connections we have
great redundancy that way as well is it
going overboard no pun intended yeah for
most absolutely but there is no way that
we would be able to continue to work the
way that we do and be able to cruise
to the places that we want to without
this type of solution which literally
means a year and a half ago this was
even a possibility which brings us to
the last and final
type of user and that is the the
commercial uh user and so if you think
about cargo ships you think about Cruise
Lines uh the maritime solution makes a
ton of sense so hopefully this is
valuable to you
um don't forget to like or subscribe
we're going to be coming out with
additional videos of how we installed
the different dishes we'll be talking
about our implementation of how we bring
together all these internet connections
through our peplink solution as well and
the different types of antennas that we
use in some upcoming videos
have a great week thanks a lot
safe sailing
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