The YouTube Civil War Has Begun

CinnamonToastKen
20 Sept 202413:47

Summary

TLDRThe YouTube community is embroiled in controversy as top creators Mr Beast, Logan Paul, and KSI launch 'Lunch Le', a product accused of targeting kids with unhealthy food. Amid backlash, they defend their venture, igniting a 'YouTube Civil War'. Old-timer YouTuber Dan TDM criticizes the move, prompting heated responses from the Lunch Le team. The community debates the ethics of influencers selling to young audiences, with some defending past collaborations and others calling for better standards.

Takeaways

  • 📈 The YouTuber community is experiencing a significant conflict, with creators turning against each other.
  • 🎥 The feud began with creators calling each other out for views but has escalated into a more serious conflict.
  • 🍕 The launch of 'Lunch Le' by Mr Beast, Logan Paul, and KSI is a significant catalyst for the unrest within the community.
  • 😡 People are unhappy with the marketing of Lunch Le to children, viewing it as unhealthy and exploitative.
  • 📉 The reputations of Mr Beast and Logan Paul are being scrutinized due to past controversies and allegations.
  • 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Concerns are raised about the health implications of Lunch Le for young audiences.
  • 🔍 The community is fact-checking claims made by creators about the health benefits of Lunch Le.
  • 🗣️ Dane 'Dan TDM' Middleton, a well-respected YouTuber, has publicly criticized the Lunch Le launch, sparking further debate.
  • 💬 The responses from KSI, Mr Beast, and Logan Paul to criticism have been varied and have further fueled the conflict.
  • 📉 The backlash against Lunch Le has highlighted broader issues with the way YouTubers monetize their channels and influence their audiences.

Q & A

  • What is the main conflict mentioned in the script?

    -The main conflict is a 'civil war' among YouTubers, triggered by Mr Beast, Logan Paul, and KSI launching a product called 'Lunch Le', which has upset many in the community.

  • Why are people upset about Lunch Le?

    -People are upset because they believe Lunch Le is being marketed to kids as a healthy alternative to Lunchables, despite concerns about its ingredients and the reputations of the creators involved.

  • What is the controversy surrounding Logan Paul's involvement with Lunch Le?

    -Logan Paul's involvement is controversial due to his past allegations of being a scammer and the negative press surrounding his brand 'Prime'.

  • What are the allegations against Mr Beast mentioned in the script?

    -The script mentions allegations of unsafe work conditions, a registered sex offender working on set, and a lawsuit for not paying minimum wages and overtime, as well as not preventing sexual harassment on the set of his game show.

  • What was Dan TDM's reaction to the Lunch Le launch?

    -Dan TDM criticized the Lunch Le launch, questioning how it benefits their fans and accusing the creators of selling products to kids who trust them.

  • How did KSI respond to Dan TDM's criticism?

    -KSI responded by accusing Dan TDM of hypocrisy, pointing out that Dan has also sold products and done sponsorships in the past.

  • What was Mr Beast's defense regarding Lunch Le?

    -Mr Beast defended Lunch Le by stating that it is a healthier alternative to Lunchables, with less calories, less sugar, and more electrolytes, and that it aims to provide a better option for those who consume pre-made meals.

  • What was Logan Paul's stance on the backlash against Lunch Le?

    -Logan Paul took an aggressive stance, arguing that they are providing a better product and that people are free to choose not to consume it.

  • Why is the community rallying behind Dan TDM?

    -The community is rallying behind Dan TDM because he is seen as a trusted figure who speaks out against what he perceives as exploitation of young audiences by fellow YouTubers.

  • What is the significance of the 'class action lawsuit' waiver mentioned in the script?

    -The waiver's significance lies in the fact that by purchasing Lunch Le products from their website, consumers are potentially giving up their right to join class action lawsuits against the company, which raises concerns about consumer rights.

  • What is the broader implication of the YouTubers' conflict as described in the script?

    -The broader implication is a shift in the YouTube community from content creation to commercialization and the ethical concerns surrounding the influence of popular YouTubers on their young audiences.

Outlines

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📹 YouTuber Civil War Over Lunchables

The script discusses a conflict within the YouTube community, sparked by Mr Beast, Logan Paul, and KSI launching a product called 'Lunchables'. Initially, creators were calling each other out for views, but it escalated to a 'civil war'. The community is divided over the ethics of marketing unhealthy products to young audiences. The video mentions controversies surrounding Mr Beast, including allegations of unsafe work conditions and lawsuits over his game show. The script also highlights public backlash against the Lunchables product, with fans accusing creators of exploiting their audience for profit.

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🔥 Dan TDM's Critique Ignites Debate

Dan TDM, a well-respected YouTuber, publicly criticizes the Lunchables product, calling out creators for selling unhealthy food to children. His statement gains significant traction, leading to responses from KSI, Mr Beast, and Logan Paul. KSI accuses Dan of hypocrisy, pointing out his past collaborations and product promotions. Mr Beast defends Lunchables as a healthier alternative to traditional lunch snacks, while Logan Paul takes a more aggressive stance, arguing that creators have a right to build businesses from their content. The script suggests that the conflict has become a significant event within the YouTube community.

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🍕 The YouTube Community Reacts

The script describes the YouTube community's reaction to the Lunchables controversy. It mentions how the conflict has led to a 'civil war' among creators, with many taking sides. The video script also discusses the business practices of Mr Beast and Logan Paul, including their product launches and the potential legal issues with Lunchables. The community's response ranges from support for Dan TDM to criticism of the creators involved with Lunchables. The script ends with a call to action for viewers to engage with the video and a reflection on the temporary nature of such controversies.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡YouTubers

YouTubers are individuals who create and host content on the video-sharing platform YouTube. In the context of the video, YouTubers are portrayed as turning against each other in what is described as a 'civil war'. The script discusses how these content creators are involved in controversies and disputes, which is a central theme of the video.

💡Civil War

In the script, 'civil war' is used metaphorically to describe the conflict and unrest among YouTubers. It suggests a situation where there is significant discord and disagreement within the community, leading to public disputes and arguments, which is a key narrative of the video.

💡Content creators

Content creators are individuals who produce various forms of content, such as videos, blogs, podcasts, etc. The video discusses how these creators are now involved in promoting products, which has led to controversies and backlash from their audience.

💡Lunchables

Lunchables is a brand of pre-packaged lunch products, often targeted at children. In the video, Lunchables is mentioned as a point of comparison for a new product launched by YouTubers, which has sparked controversy due to its marketing to a young audience.

💡Mr Beast

Mr Beast is a popular YouTuber known for his philanthropy and large-scale stunts. The video discusses his involvement in launching a product called 'Lunch Le', which has become a focal point of the controversy among YouTubers and their audience.

💡Logan Paul

Logan Paul is a controversial YouTuber and boxer. The script mentions him as one of the figures involved in launching 'Lunch Le', and his response to criticism is highlighted, showing his role in the unfolding drama.

💡KSI

KSI is a British YouTuber, rapper, and boxer. The video discusses his involvement with 'Lunch Le' and his reaction to the backlash, which includes accusations of hypocrisy and a defense of the product.

💡Dan TDM

Dan TDM, also known as Dan Middleton, is a well-known YouTuber famous for his Minecraft content. In the video, he is portrayed as a figure of integrity who speaks out against the commercialization of YouTube content, particularly the targeting of children with certain products.

💡Community Notes

Community Notes are a feature on YouTube that allows users to add context or corrections to videos. The script mentions how Community Notes are being used to fact-check claims made by YouTubers about their products, adding a layer of public scrutiny to the controversy.

💡Class action lawsuit

A class action lawsuit is a type of lawsuit where a large group of people collectively sue a defendant for similar harms. The video discusses how 'Lunch Le' has a policy that may limit customers' ability to join such lawsuits, which is a significant legal and ethical issue raised by the controversy.

💡Memes

Memes are cultural symbols or ideas that are transmitted from person to person, often humorous in nature. The video suggests that the controversy has led to the creation of memes by the internet community, showing how the situation has become a part of internet culture.

Highlights

YouTubers are turning against each other, causing unrest within the community.

Mr Beast, Logan Paul, and KSI launched a product called 'Lunchables', causing controversy.

People are unhappy with the marketing of the product to kids.

Dan TDM criticized the product, calling it 'selling crap to kids'.

KSI responded to Dan's criticism by accusing him of hypocrisy.

Mr Beast defended the product, claiming it's a healthier alternative to Lunchables.

Logan Paul took an aggressive stance, telling critics not to eat the product if they don't like it.

Community notes highlighted inaccuracies in the product's claims about health benefits.

There are concerns about lead content in the product.

Dan TDM's criticism sparked a larger discussion about the responsibilities of YouTubers with large audiences.

The YouTube community rallied behind Dan TDM, showing solidarity against the criticized YouTubers.

Past controversies involving Mr Beast and Logan Paul were brought up in the discussion.

The debate raised questions about the ethics of YouTubers promoting products to their young audiences.

The YouTube 'Civil War' metaphor was used to describe the conflict between creators.

Memes and jokes about the situation spread across the internet.

There are allegations that by purchasing Lunchables, consumers waive their right to class action lawsuits.

KSI's past promotion of a food subscription box to his young audience was highlighted as a double standard.

The YouTube community is divided, with some supporting the criticized creators and others against them.

Transcripts

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it's the beginning of the end YouTubers

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are turning against each other it's an

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allout Civil War it started out we were

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just calling each other out and exposing

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each other for views but now it's become

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even more it's just we're just literally

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trying to eat each other and it's ready

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to explode I can't wait what has

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happened to cause all this unrest and

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all this anger within the community on

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YouTube to turn YouTubers and content

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creators and fans against each other

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well you probably already guessed it

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Mr Beast Logan Paul and KSI launched a

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Lunchable called lunch Le and people

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aren't happy about it and so I thought

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to myself what what's the what's the

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problem it's just it's just YouTubers

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doing what YouTubers do you know

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YouTubers our whole business plan

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basically is to try to sell you stuff it

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might not be directly because if you

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watch the videos you probably got served

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ads you know or uh I I got a whole

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company that literally just tries to get

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brand deals to creators so they can say

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like bye

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this from ex company and they and they

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pay him money or Mr Beast uh has uh his

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his feasable like the chocolate and

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Logan Paul's got Prime like what this

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this seems pretty par for the course

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really but then you start reading like

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the replies and why people are so mad

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about it and and the reason after I

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thought about more I I I do I do

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understand it's it's kind of like the

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whole thing with prime uh like over the

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previous years being like yes uh healthy

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you know electrolytes and all that and

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even South Park made an episode about it

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and uh and Logan Paul's allegations of

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being a scammer you know but then prom

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is still successful but it's got a lot

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of bad like press just Logan Paul does

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uh then KSI is there but you know

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everybody everybody seems all right with

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KSI and Mr Beast having all of his

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things going on right now like uh like

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people have been trying to get him for

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what happened with uh uh the guy who

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worked with Chris and like the alleged

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dude that that works with them on set

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that was a registered sex offender which

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I don't know I never know what came of

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that I never heard anything else about

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that um uh like Rosanna she went on she

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went on NBC to talk about like Mr Beast

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unsafe work conditions and even to add

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more to it Mr Beast also has uh him and

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Amazon have a I think they're getting

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they're getting sued they're getting

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sued by contestants of their upcoming

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Beast game show because they failed to

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pay minimum wages and over time failed

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to prevent sexual harassment

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participants weren't provided uh

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uninterrupted meal breaks and rest

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breaks uh several contestants ended up

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hospitalized yeah so

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there's a lot of thing like all of

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that's built up and and on top of that

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feasable or not febles um lunch Le is

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being that they're saying that it's

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healthy it's like a healthy alternative

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to Lunchables and obviously these guys

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all have very young audiences because

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that's you you do whenever you're like

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the biggest people on the platform your

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primary audience is younger so people

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don't like that they marketing these

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things to kids it's like yeah eat this

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it's great yeah and the kids like oh my

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God I love you yes I so they're they're

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mad about

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it which all seems reasonable you know

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it probably have some backlash and

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they'll keep on going and then a year

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from now no one will care and they'll be

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a billion dollar company and know

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huzzah but people started speaking up

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and that's where it starts getting juicy

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D people started speaking up and and

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some claims started getting getting

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Community noted okay like uh let's see

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like Logan Paul tweeted about you know

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lunch Le versus Lunchables and then here

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he gives like the C the versus calories

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and all that stuff uh you know they're

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counting the electrolytes but it's

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almost like it's being replaced to

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sodium in the community notes Here is

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the 400 milligrams of electrolytes in

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the chart appears incorrect the 12 ounz

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of strawberry banana Prime of the fiesta

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and of the fiesta nacho excuse me and

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the 12 O ice pop prom of the turkey

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stick stickums both have 500 milligrams

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of potassium not 400 uh this is not even

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include the other electrolytes so so

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people are like what what what do you

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mean what was going on here then there's

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like a there's talk about lead within uh

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within the food there's there's a video

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here he's like we spend a lot of money

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to put all meals to X-ray and metal

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detection to ensure no foreign materials

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are in lunch Le to which uh oill quoted

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it it's like Loca Paul thinks 0 or

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0.0000001

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14175 grams of lead will show up on a

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mail Detector by the way this would be

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two times what's allowed legally

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oh but but this this is where this where

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the like aside from just all the things

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you kind of expect right all that's

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within expectation what's not

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expected the real the what the thing

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that really kicked it off Dane Dan

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TDM old school YouTuber

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Minecrafter very successful guy very

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nice guy me and Felix have played games

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with him and uh very pleasant and

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everyone loves him he quoted the the

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announcement they made and said what

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happened to YouTubers man I can't not

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say anything anymore this is selling

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stuff for the sake of making money

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simple how does benefit their fans this

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is selling crap to kids who don't know

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better than to trust the people who are

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selling it to them do better to which

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this got you know 36 you know 37 million

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views at this time you know 500,000

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retweets like it kind of took off it

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kind of is your responsibility right

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like it should be your responsibility as

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as someone with a platform that being

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you know what I'm saying and then and

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then so when he said that all three of

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the faces of lunch Ley had responses and

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all three were very very

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different okay KSI responded with looks

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like crap to me and linked pictures of

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like Dan's toys and things he sells uh

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like you and things like that uh to be

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like you're also selling junk that you

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know you're doing the same thing what a

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hypocrite right and it got community

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noted and said not only has KSI worked

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with them before the CEO of you's Austin

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long got his start by managing the sidan

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and was an executive producer on their

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YouTube Red show and being like yeah

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you're that that that one goes both ways

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that's really not a thing and you know

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he went that way okay and then um Mr

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Beast Mr Beast went the way of trying to

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tell like what good of a product it is

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lunchable sells hundreds of millions of

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units and countless people eat it our

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goal is to give people a a better for

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you alternative to it our turkey meal

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for example is 80% less calories 60%

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less sugar more electrolytes we use real

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cheese uh they they use cheese product

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cuz they can't call it cheese which the

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the truth of that I think it's got to be

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like 51% cheese like like to actually be

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called cheese but anyway uh higher

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quality meat Etc obviously eating fresh

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chicken and broccoli is healthier but if

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someone's going to eat pre-made meal

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with this which millions of people do

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through launchables then I think giving

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them a higher quality version at roughly

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the same price is a net good in my

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opinion and while we uh we launched

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lunch Le also we get economies of scale

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it can get things cheaper we'll only be

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improving the product more and more he's

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like very PR like we're going to go in

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there it's it's it's it's good it's

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better it's a better it's just an

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alternative then Logan Paul went the um

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a little more aggressive right uh okay

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he's like I'll tell you what happened to

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YouTubers we spent our lives creating

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content building Our Brands now we want

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to build a business you don't see any

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you don't say anything when lb's faces

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bans for allegedly containing lead but

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then we create a better version you're

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upset then don't eat it which this got

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community noted and said missleading

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saying that Lunchable faces bands for

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allegedly containing lead that they

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created a better version it implies

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lunchable doesn't contain lead the ice

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pop Prime hydration found found in the

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turkey stack Stacks also has report uh

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reports of lead contaminants from the

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ERC oh my which he's replied to it's

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like Consumer Reports ores us dat to

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remove Lunchables from you know and then

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you know kind of goes in the offensive

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like nuh-uh you know and so this was

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this is this was the event Dane this was

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like our Ground Zero event

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now people feel like Dan has been

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attacked and you don't attack Dan DTM

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you don't attack dant TDM okay in front

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of everyone you don't do that got right

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here Jack Septic like you mess with Dan

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TM you mess with YouTube you mess with

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one of us you mess with all of us here

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we

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go and everyone's just like yeah don't

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mess with them Robert Ross here if you

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told me 10 years ago that the YouTuber

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silver war was going to be started over

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what kids are eating For Recess would

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have believed it immediately and people

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are like you were correct about Mr Beast

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the whole time you're a hero because

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there was an interview kind of or a

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video jacket did a while back while he's

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doing like a the law detector test and

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they asked him like what do you thought

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Mr Beast or whatever he said basically

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said that Mr Beast wasn't good for

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YouTube because of the content that he

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creates not that the content's bad but

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like the bar he setting kind of thing

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what you kind of that stuff is where he

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going like it's it's uh yeah it's taking

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it away from like people sitting in

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their their rooms making content and

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going more further into production and

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and it's it's a valid take so yeah

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people are going back and like oh yeah

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and then this also goes into the whole

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lots of people have been jumping on Mr

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BEAST's case like even I was going

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through the the earlier stuff like all

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the allegations and stuff about Mr Beast

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and I was like ah the dude literally

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doesn't have to say anything he can just

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just ignore it and keep going nothing

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will ever happen right right but then

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you launch something with uh he just

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something something new targeting kids

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you know and it's got Logan Paul

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involved and everyone's big mad then you

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then you then you clap back at

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Dan all right K officially what side are

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we taking there's only one side to take

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we stand with Dan all right we stand we

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stand with Dan Dan the man I've never

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actually spoken to any other guys Mr

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Beast follows me and I I sent him a

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message one time tell him that his email

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was hacked and whoever answered it said

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thanks but uh other than that you know

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but Dan you know talk Dan's good he's a

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dad fellow

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father don't mess with him don't do it

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then of course the internet's taken and

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making memes about it you got people

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people comparing it you got launchables

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on the left launch on the right one has

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Pizza Capri Sun actual candy the other

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one has pizza Prime crap Feast tables

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crap ooh fe uh it's like I think I think

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it's his chocolate he's got like a

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chocolate bar he he's been like trying

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to get in like production of stuff so

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like I think it started out with him

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doing like the like the ghost kitchen

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stuff on like like Uber Eats and things

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you could get like Beast burgers and

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stuff and then uh launched like you know

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the candy bars which like doing this is

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it's it is normal like launching things

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when you have you have people behind you

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like I even have ideas of things that I

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would like to launch and leverage my

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popularity to make the business

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successful but um it kind of comes into

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you know just previous practices and

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like is it is what people say yeah

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people are looking at it as they should

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suspiciously you know I always kind of

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even thought like the whole Burger thing

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was weird like I can get a Mr Beast

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burger from my local Italian place and

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that was really weird to me like

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apparently that caused some issues too

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like some kitchens were like being shady

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and stuff but his name was on it yeah

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got that got that got weird I don't I

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was just looking here I don't know if

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this is true but this guy uh Jeff here

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says looks like Mr Beast is trying to

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nip the class action lawsuit problem in

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the bud with lunch Ley if you buy any

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products from their website you wave a

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lot of Rights apparently Source their

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policies and terms they took a picture

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of this

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section 21 is this no way you shall not

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join any action with claims of any other

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person or entity or bring join to

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participate in class actions against

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lunch Le so if you buy the product on

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the website you're waving your right to

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class action lawsuits

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goodness no way is that really on there

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hang on yeah yeah there it is right

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there it's on the website oh my goodness

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wow I wonder if that's like a normal

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like I wonder if this isn't a lot of

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stuff when you go and agree to it and

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you don't even know what's in there huh

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if you got any questions you can email

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them

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apparently jeez KSI also had another

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reply it says he was talking about food

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he was sponsored and promoted and made a

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whole video on Munch pack a monthly

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subbox full of food and Candy to his

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Minecraft audience full of kids now what

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which has also been Community noted and

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it's like the reference videoos over 9

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years old on Dan DTM second or TDM I

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keep saying DTM TDM's second Channel

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more TDM uh this was a one-off sponsor

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ship where Dan was given a free food

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package from Munch pack to try unique

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foods from around the world this is

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clearly different from ksi's partnership

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with lunch

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Ley and it's like he keeps going on no

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you and everyone's like dude it's it's

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completely different situation when you

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have like a steak in the

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company my God oh my God children's fit

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no

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oh this the realid dangers of a yeah

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Dane oh my

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God hilarious and then this one goes

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back to like Logan Paul's post about

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like uh them scanning for foreign

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objects and he's like I was not lying

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they blasted radiation into lunch Ley oh

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there's going in oh goodness

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gracious we're YouTube and you're dead

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ah some of the choices of people they

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have in this are not okay anyways just

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okay anyway yeah the YouTube Civil War

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is beginning we're all turning against

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each other apparently this will all be

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over soon and no one will care but yeah

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until then please leave a like on the

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video leave a comment do all that cool

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stuff today's your birthday happy

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birthday say t my friends I love you

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we'll see you next time bye-bye I love

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how you looked at that picture and then

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change teams again

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