Spring 2021 Chaplain Interview Series: Catholic Chaplain Lynn Cooper
Summary
TLDRIn this Tufts University interview, Catholic Chaplain Lynn Cooper shares her journey from undergraduate to chaplaincy, highlighting her passion for religious studies and community care. She discusses the essence of pastoral care as accompaniment and deep listening, addressing a spectrum of student concerns from personal to spiritual. Cooper also reflects on the impact of COVID-19 on religious practices, emphasizing the need for a reimagined sacramental experience and the power of communal solidarity. Her belief in transformation and hope is palpable, as she envisions the chaplaincy's future growth in depth and diversity.
Takeaways
- đ Lynn Cooper, the Catholic chaplain at Tufts University, found her calling in the study of religion and community care during her undergraduate years at Tufts.
- đ After graduating, Lynn explored her passion further by attending divinity school, focusing on the Master of Divinity program to understand both academic and practical aspects of religious work.
- đ Lynn's realization of her vocation occurred during her time at a Lutheran congregation, where she discovered her love for university chaplaincy and working with diverse student populations.
- đ« Her return to Tufts as a chaplain was prompted by a desire to work closely with college students, which she considers her true calling.
- đ€ Pastoral care, as described by Lynn, involves accompaniment, providing a non-judgmental space for listening, and walking alongside individuals as they navigate their spiritual and existential questions.
- đ Lynn addresses a wide range of topics with students, from personal issues like family tensions and discernment to more profound matters such as faith and identity.
- đ The COVID-19 pandemic has led to a reevaluation of religious practices, particularly the sacrament of communion, prompting a reimagining of sacramental life and solidarity within the church.
- đ” Lynn's fondest memory as a chaplain involves an interfaith moment, highlighting the significance of shared spaces and the beauty of different religious traditions coexisting.
- đ± She firmly believes in transformation and growth, both on a personal level and within the spiritual community, drawing hope from the stories of change she has witnessed.
- â The best tea on campus, according to Lynn, can be found at the Tower Cafe, specifically the black mango iced tea, which holds a nostalgic value for her as a former student.
- đ Looking ahead, Lynn envisions the chaplaincy at Tufts growing deeper in its relationships and continuing to transform, with a focus on being a multi-faith team that supports students of all backgrounds.
Q & A
What is Lynn Cooper's role at Tufts University?
-Lynn Cooper is the Catholic Chaplain and Chaplaincy Tomb Supervisor at Tufts University.
How did Lynn Cooper become interested in the study of religion?
-Lynn Cooper fell in love with the study of religion during her undergraduate years at Tufts University, where it was her first experience of deep community and care within the religion department.
What led Lynn Cooper to pursue a Master of Divinity degree?
-After living in Maine for a year post-graduation, Lynn Cooper decided to attend divinity school to pursue a more holistic study of religion that included practical application and work with marginalized communities.
What was Lynn Cooper's experience like during her fieldwork at a Lutheran congregation?
-Lynn Cooper found her fieldwork at a Lutheran congregation not as fulfilling as she had hoped, leading her to reach out to Tufts University for a field education student position.
How does Lynn Cooper describe her pastoral care approach?
-Lynn Cooper describes pastoral care as accompaniment, providing a non-judgmental space for listening, being a non-anxious presence, and walking with people through their spiritual and existential questions.
What types of issues do students typically bring to Lynn Cooper for pastoral care?
-Students bring a wide range of issues to Lynn Cooper, including housemate tensions, discernment about vocation, family issues, experiences of sexual assault, and bias incidents.
How has the COVID-19 pandemic affected Lynn Cooper's approach to pastoral care?
-The COVID-19 pandemic has led to a reevaluation of communal practices like the sharing of the Eucharist and has emphasized the need for a sacramental imagination that extends beyond traditional church settings.
What is Lynn Cooper's view on the future of the Eucharist and its reception in the Catholic Church post-COVID?
-Lynn Cooper believes that the pandemic has challenged Catholics to stretch their sacramental imagination and recognize the sacred in everyday life, suggesting a potential shift in how the Eucharist is understood and received.
What memorable moment stands out for Lynn Cooper from her time as a chaplain at Tufts?
-A memorable moment for Lynn Cooper was when a student shared his experience of visiting the Vatican, and they listened to the call to prayer from the Muslim chaplain, which was a profound example of interfaith community and shared holy space.
What does Lynn Cooper believe in, and how does it influence her work as a chaplain?
-Lynn Cooper believes in transformation, which is reflected in her work as a chaplain through her commitment to personal and communal growth, and her approach to pastoral care that supports individuals in their spiritual journeys.
Where does Lynn Cooper see the Tufts University Chaplaincy growing and transforming in the future?
-Lynn Cooper hopes to see the Tufts University Chaplaincy deepen its relationships and continue to grow outward while also going deep, with a focus on being part of a multi-faith team and supporting students from diverse religious and philosophical backgrounds.
Outlines
đ Journey to Becoming a Chaplain
Lynn Cooper, the Catholic Chaplain at Tufts University, shares her personal journey of becoming a chaplain. She discusses her undergraduate experience at Tufts, where she fell in love with the study of religion. After graduation, she pursued a Master of Divinity degree, which led her to work with marginalized communities. Despite initial uncertainty about her vocation, she found her calling in pastoral care, particularly at Tufts, where she returned to serve as the Catholic Chaplain after a stint at a Catholic high school.
đ€ The Essence of Pastoral Care
Pastoral care, as described by Lynn, is about accompaniment and providing a non-judgmental space for students. She emphasizes the importance of being a non-anxious presence on campus and walking alongside individuals as they navigate their spiritual and existential questions. Lynn discusses the wide range of issues students bring to her, from personal conflicts to grappling with faith and identity. She also touches on the unique care chaplains offer, which complements but differs from traditional counseling services.
đ The Universality of Pastoral Care
Lynn wishes for more students to know that pastoral care is available to everyone, regardless of their religious or spiritual background. She encourages students to reach out, emphasizing that chaplains meet people where they are, without judgment. Lynn also reflects on the impact of COVID-19 on pastoral care, noting an increase in students seeking to reconnect with their faith and the challenges of adapting traditional practices, such as communion, to the new reality.
đ” Reimagining Sacraments in the Time of COVID
The COVID-19 pandemic has prompted a reevaluation of sacramental practices, particularly communion. Lynn discusses the significance of the Eucharist and the challenge of maintaining its communal aspect during a time of social distancing. She invites a reimagining of sacraments, suggesting that everyday moments and interactions can be sacramental, embodying a sense of the holy. Lynn also expresses a sense of loss for traditional practices like the shared chalice and looks forward to new ways of experiencing communion as churches reopen.
đ± Memorable Moments and Beliefs in Transformation
Lynn recounts a memorable moment of interfaith harmony at Tufts, where a student shared his experience of the call to prayer during a meeting in her office. This moment exemplifies the power of sharing sacred space and being in community with individuals from diverse religious backgrounds. Lynn also shares her belief in transformation, drawing parallels between the changing seasons, personal growth, and the transformative potential within all people. She emphasizes a 'gritty hopefulness' and the importance of embracing transformation in both personal and communal contexts.
âïž Future Visions for the Chaplaincy and Campus Life
Looking ahead, Lynn expresses a desire for the chaplaincy at Tufts to deepen its relationships and continue growing, both outward and deep. She is proud of the multi-faith team and the opportunities for interfaith collaboration. Lynn also shares her personal preference for the best tea on campus, the Black Mango Iced Tea from the Tower Cafe, which holds a special place in her heart as a former student and current chaplain.
Mindmap
Keywords
đĄChaplain
đĄPastoral Care
đĄDivinity School
đĄVocation
đĄMarginalized Communities
đĄEucharist
đĄSolidarity
đĄTransformation
đĄMulti-faith Team
đĄResilience
Highlights
Introduction of Lynn Cooper, the Catholic Chaplain at Tufts University, who uses she/her pronouns.
Lynn's journey from being a Tufts undergraduate to becoming a chaplain, influenced by her love for the study of religion.
Decision to attend divinity school without prior knowledge of ministry, driven by a desire for holistic study.
Lynn's realization during divinity school that her true calling was to work with college students.
The importance of accompaniment and non-judgmental spaces in pastoral care.
Pastoral care as walking with people, learning side by side, and creating space for processing and questioning.
Range of issues students bring to pastoral care, from housemate tensions to existential questions.
The unique care chaplains offer, complementing counseling and mental health services.
Lynn's perspective on how COVID has affected students' faith and their need for pastoral care.
The challenge of reimagining communion and sacraments during COVID, emphasizing solidarity and sacramental imagination.
Reflection on the shared cup in Catholic communion and its significance.
Lynn's memorable moment of interfaith harmony at Tufts, listening to the call to prayer in her office.
Belief in transformation and growth, inspired by personal experiences and the current season of Lent.
Vision for the future of Tufts University Chaplaincy, focusing on deepening relationships and growing as a multi-faith team.
Recommendation for the best tea on campus, the Black Mango iced tea at the Tower Cafe.
Transcripts
good afternoon
i'm in the interfaith center with the
tufts university chaplain interview
series
i'm here with the catholic chaplain now
would you like to introduce yourself
yes my name is lynn cooper i use the she
series pronouns
and i'm the catholic chaplain and
chaplaincy tomb supervisor here at tufts
university
great um we just have a few questions
for you
today we'll start out with how you came
to be a chaplain at tufts
um well i was an undergraduate at tufts
i graduated in 2002 and when i was here
as a student i just i fell in love with
the study of religion
it just made me come alive in fact i
kind of i knew i wanted to study
religion when i was going to college
um and so that was one of the
requirements that i had not that i told
anyone but the requirements that i had
personally for the school that i wanted
to go to
and it really was my first
experience of deep community and care
within the religion department um
and after graduation
um i went to live in
uh maine for a year and during that time
i decided
no i want to go to divinity school and
um
you know i at the last second i looked
at the
uh at the different programs and i said
wow the master of divinity just sounds
so kind of more holistic you know it's
not just the academic study of religion
it's
how do you work with people how do you
show up for um
marginalized communities and folks and
like how do you
um put into practice what you're
learning in the
in the classroom and so without
any knowledge of what the word ministry
meant or pastoral
or vocation or discernment i signed up
for divinity school
for the master of divinity and i knew
from
the first probably first two minutes of
the first day that i was in the right
place
i didn't know why wow but i thought i
heard the woman who
who became my advisor i heard her speak
at the um
the opening retreat for my program and
as i said i didn't i didn't understand
why i was there but i knew i was in the
right place
um and so in divinity school i had um
i did some field work at a parish at a
lutheran
congregation and i just it just didn't
it just wasn't the kind of work that was
making me come alive and
so my last year i ended up reaching out
to the university chaplain at tufts and
kind of with my tail between my legs
very last minute
do you have room for a field ed student
and they already had two field ads that
year
and they graciously made room for me
um and while well we didn't use the
language this language then it was
really
my work and my task for that position
was
to uh work with the nuns right um
people who are don't identify with a
religious or philosophical tradition
um not um
folks who we wouldn't ordinarily see
walk through our doors
that was the work i was doing and
i loved it i absolutely loved it but
then out of divinity school i ended up
getting a job at
alboy's catholic high school which was
really wonderful
but i knew that my call was really to
work with college students
and a year later i got the call to come
back to tufts
and their catholic chaplain had left
and here i am so i began and i don't
think i really knew what a catholic
chaplain was
um but i was
learning as i went and
a lot of it was uh you know really
learning how much i didn't know
and learning how much
i couldn't have known you know i had
never
set up for liturgy before um
but i also wasn't allowed to be an altar
server as a child so how was i supposed
to know
you know there were things like that
where
the learning curve was kind of steep but
um
you know on the day-to-day the pastoral
presence the ministry of presence was
you know helped me help me
uh grow some roots here yeah
i think that's um if i can take the
questions a bit out of order here
because i think that that leads us into
a very
uh interesting question there about
pastoral care because a lot of
a lot of these interview series are set
up to try to
expose people more to the resources that
we have available with the chaplaincy in
terms of pastoral care
and in terms of in terms of ministry in
terms of resources
so how would you describe pastoral care
what does it mean to you
when i think of pastoral care the image
that really comes up to me
is uh is accompaniment
um i can provide a listening ear
in a non-judgmental space a non i could
be a non-anxious presence
is my greatest hope that i am um
on this campus and beyond um
but pastoral care you know i think we
all have different
um we connected to the different parts
of this terminology
and um but when i really think of the
work that i do
and the pastoral care that um takes
shape
in my ministry it's really one of
walking with people
and learning side by side and listening
deeply
and um and creating that space for
processing
creating that space um for asking
uh sometimes really difficult and
dangerous questions you know depending
on where you have grown up
some theological questions or
existential questions could have been
too dangerous to even entertain um
and so it's really about creating
a spaciousness for
folks who are exploring and folks who
sometimes we meet people who are really
hurting um
sometimes we meet people who are just
really curious
and often it begins with i don't know
what this is supposed to look like what
am i supposed to say
which i hear all the time and it's just
a you know
i try to put people at ease and just say
this is just a conversation like let's
let's just get to know each other
um yeah
that's lovely um when when you have
those sorts of conversations you know
when people come to you
and um are are hurting or are
stuck with some sort of question uh in
their minds
what what sort of topics do you usually
come up like
what do people usually come to you with
yeah well a whole a whole wide range of
of issues anything from
um you know a housemate
uh tangles or tensions
um questions about
discernment or like you know i want to
be
um a doctor but i want to
think of this as a vocation how do i do
that when no one else is really talking
about that
or you know
students who are wrestling with family
back home whether it's you know a family
member who
is ill a family member who has passed
um or tensions within the family that
get brought out in different ways when
students leave home sometimes it's a
respite away
from it and sometimes um other things
are surface
you know i've had conversations with
students
who are seeking support after experience
of sexual assault
after bias incidents
and you know we offer a unique kind of
care
that often it goes really well with
counseling mental health
services their offerings but ours is is
of a different um a different shape
and so it really it's really a wide
range right now
um and this happens all the time
but i feel like because of covid and
because of just this moment
there's been a lot of clarifying fact
clarifying energy around and so
um there's a lot of people who are
looking to reconnect with their faith
who maybe had you know some negative
experiences with
the church or with their tradition as we
know churches hurt people better than
anybody
and so it can be a real
challenge to say okay there's this
institution that hurt me
but like my identity my religious
identity
is not is more than just the institution
like it
is something that is part of me and so
reclaiming that identity
can be a really important part of one's
formation certainly spiritual
development
so that's another another really uh big
theme that comes up
right uh issues around identity
sexuality
yeah yeah
so for those students that maybe haven't
come
to you or to any other of the other
chaplains
looking for pastoral care um
could you maybe uh say you know is there
anything that you wish that they knew
about pastoral care or even the people
that do come to you
something that you wish everyone knew
about pastoral care that you don't think
is a very
widespread piece of information hmm
that's a good question
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um
just that it can be for everyone you
know i think
you know i have friends who i call to um
sometimes you know they put on their
chaplain hat for me
and it's really helpful uh or a
spiritual director to talk to you about
these things like i
i think like normalizing it in this way
i mean our students
are so deep and so
substantive and like the things that
make them
tick and the things that drive them and
you know it's it's really demanding work
to take a step back and ask the
questions of like
why like why do i feel this way where is
this energy coming from um
and it's very counter cultural too so
like it's
i think it makes a lot of sense that
this
especially within a university
environment that's like very high
achieving
and at times like life gets really
imbalanced that
you know while we do see a lot of people
we don't you know there's tons of people
we never encounter
um and uh you know that's fine but i
would also just say that i think that um
this kind of
support could be um
you know it's so different from like
academic work spiritual
spiritual life you know it doesn't use
the
same rubric it doesn't um it's not as
linear
um so yeah we just i would just say that
the invitation is always there
you know like it's really hard to
offend us i think i don't always just
say maybe i shouldn't speak for
everybody but i feel like
you know we meet people where they are
and if someone
reaches out once and then like doesn't
follow up i'm not like
where is that person you know they left
me hanging it's like
you just call the next time or you know
like you send an email the next time you
want to
it's it's as i said it's not a it's a
non-judgmental space and i think
we try to embody that a most gracious
way because everyone's
experiencing their own challenges
especially in this moment
right of course
yeah so that's sort of like people can
reach out no matter what challenges that
they're experiencing not just
they don't just have to be struggling
with uh do i become a priest
or yeah i don't know how many people are
struggling with that particular question
in this day and age but uh
yeah all right so
moving off of the uh pastoral care
questions
um i'm curious what's uh
because you've mentioned that there's a
little difficulty involved with kovid
um and a lot and you see a lot of people
coming with
uh pastoral care with regards to kovid
or just issues that have come up with
regards to that
um so i'm wondering what is a
ritual a practice or an idea that's been
sort of on your mind lately in in it
especially with regards to covid but if
if it doesn't have to be that's been
grounding you
or that's been uh sort of
eating at the back of your mind sure
i mean the big one off the top of my
head is
communion you know um
which for many people is like the reason
why they go to mass is to receive the
eucharist
um and as we know like not everyone
receives the eucharist
like even in non-coveted times this is
um
there are communities all across the
globe who only receive eucharist
once a year there are people who
attend mass every week and choose never
to receive eucharist
there are people who are homebound who
don't receive
um and i think this what i've been
thinking a lot this year
is that this is a real moment for
solidarity
um around the church and a reorienting
of in kind of a
kick to our sacramental imagination from
my context as a catholic like sacraments
are big
you know there's baptism and matrimony
and
you know what is how is a sacrament
defined it's an an outward sign of god's
grace so something made
physical um and we have these official
ones
but then we have like the everyday ones
of like sitting here and talking to
you know conor elliott who i love
you know like this is a sacramental
moment of like
getting to learn from you and and and
and learn together and see where we go
um
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and i think that this moment is
challenging
us as catholics to um
stretch that sacramental imagination and
like look at our dinner tables
as holy places and look at our
walks on the sidewalk as like walking
towards communion like
and seeing jesus in the faces
of like go you want the eucharist like
go look at people's faces like there's
jesus
you know it's not he's not just
in the host um he's out in the world
um and i think that
that's especially powerful to me right
now as i'm seeing churches open up again
and people having to like get the
reserve their spaces
to be present and i know how powerful it
is to be
in person and also
um you know i'm just not ready to
receive yet
like i i don't want to receive you chris
yet i might on easter when we when we
with our community um if you know people
want to
but um yes and the other big thing i
i'd say is i think a lot about the cup
um for those of you who don't know um
in in catholic uh congregations there's
you know the uh communion there's the
body of the bread
that's distributed and then a cup of
wine the blood
and it's one cup that's shared with
everyone
so a few weeks back i was cleaning out
the sacristy
and um
and there were just so many vessels
there were so many vessels in the
sacristy of
you know sets that people have given us
i mean they're all gifts
um i've never purchased anything
those kinds of um objects
um uh in my
in my 13 years here they've always
they've always existed they already were
here
sometimes some of them have inscriptions
that they were gifts
like in someone else's name um
there were just so many
chalices and i
it just gave me pause because i thought
you know we're
we're never going back there like
they're not i don't they're not going to
be used in the same way
um and
um
and really for many catholic
congregations
they only just started receiving from
the cup like
historically only priests received that
were able to consume
um the blood and so it just
it just it you know there's just a
sadness and a sense of loss there and
also
um a sense of reality that like this is
just not tenable
um it was probably never a good idea
like public health-wise
um but you know there's something really
powerful and really beautiful about
the shared the shared cup you know it's
so embodied it's kind of so
sensuous that you're like sharing this
vessel
um and um
yeah that's just something else that's
on my mind of like how
covet and everything is gonna change our
experience of
yeah and already has changed our
experience of um
these elements of catholic tradition
which i think
yeah are important but they're not all
of it you know
and um
plenty of people have very live very
rich sacramental
lives and they don't receive communion
and we have a lot to learn from that
instead of this transactional
way of consuming you know
it's there's more to be there's more
work to be done there
than just waiting in line to consume and
then you're like okay i'm done
right yeah no i understand that
cool well it seems like we're a little
short on time i believe
but um i have a few more questions that
i do want to get through um
first of all um just a general question
what's the most memorable moment that
you've ever had working as a chaplain at
tufts
could be your favorite event could be
just a random
time like walking through campus
um i have i have one that i've i've
written about so
it's it's very uh it's something i've
reflected on quite a bit
and it was uh i was in the inter this is
a bunch of years ago i was in the
interfaith center in my office
and a student was coming
a young man who had just visited the
vatican with his family
and he wanted to tell me all about it
and often people just assume that i've
been and i've definitely never been
so like i was like i was telling you all
of it you know and
so as he was telling me this
um the it was friday and so
joomo was beginning and
the former muslim chaplain
nila balosh who began when i began we
began together the same year and we had
just
graduated from harvard divinity school
together so she's like
like a soul sister i'd say in some ways
and um
her husband was singing the call to
prayer
and it might you might make me cry
just talking about this but we were
sitting in my office and um
just and he just stopped talking
and and we listened to the call to
prayer
and then we listened to the silence
after the call of prayer the call to
prayer
and and we had been called to prayer
you know it was this
profound gift um and just such
such kind of like a concrete example of
like what happens when you share holy
space and like what happens when you're
in community
with um you know people from other
religious traditions and philosophical
traditions and
you know this person from a very very
catholic family traditionally catholic
family talking about the back
like moved to tears you know he
he had never experienced jima before he
didn't know arabic he didn't it didn't
matter
like he heard the call to prayer and um
it's my favorite memories
that's really lovely
yeah i i actually last year i worked
fridays here
in the ifc so i got to hear the call to
prayer
every week and i'm really missing it now
as it happens
um all right
uh
so what this is a random
off the completely off the cuff question
what's something that you believe
oh i believe in transformation
that's what i believe
um you know we're in this season of
transformation in spring
um those little flowers that were just
poking up
a week or two ago now are opening on our
i can see on my walks and
um you know i've seen human beings in my
life
and myself uh transform our way of
living in the world and being and i've
seen relationships
transform i see you know we're in this
season two of lent and heading towards
easter which is
the resurrection you know new life being
possible
um and i feel like i carry with me all
those stories of
whether there are stories in the
scriptures or stories from my life or my
friend's life
and um all those
kind of inform my
my sense of hopefulness you know like a
gritty hopefulness
like a kind of a big picture hope not
like a particular
i've got a laundry list of hopes i want
to see in action but
like kind of a just a big picture
posture towards hope um also my son's
obsessed with transformers
and so throughout the day so many times
he does the
i probably have one like on the table oh
they're all over there but
um throughout the day you know he does
the sound like
and and he'll yell transform
and it's like um it's like an imperative
like that's how i
hear it i hear it as he's kind of
declaring it into
being like calling out to me to
transform like it's
it feels like it's you know i'm being
called from another
plane to always remember the need to
transform and grow
and um
yeah and it's just one of like something
i'm thinking a lot about right now
as i look across the room you can't see
but it's
all filled with transformers and they
all have their own stories and like in
different shows and whatever
but um yeah spirit's calling us to
transform
whether it's a four-year-old boy or
someone else in your life or
the trees
well speaking of a transformation and
uh growth um do you have
do you have an idea of where you would
like to see the tufts university
chaplaincy go in the future how you
would like it to transform and grow
well if it's transformation in the past
if it is anything like
you know is going to tell me anything
it's that this
i trust that it's going to continue to
happen you know it's been i've been here
for 13 years and have seen
you know the the approach and
and methods change dramatically and
always you know have that student center
core
but um i'm excited to see
where we're gonna grow i think
um i think the big thing for me would
would be to deepen
some of the relationships that we
already have
um and that takes time and it takes
people and it takes commitment um
i think we've just kind of like
scratched the surface of some of that
um but i am so delighted that we
you know our chaplaincy team is is
growing and
um with our new hindu advisor an
afrikaner spirituality advisor
and um you know i'm really proud to be
part of
a multi-faith team that's a team
that's like really rare you know often
it's
um you know people can be kind of siloed
and i think
that the way our our infrastructure is
built and our kind of connective
tissue is is is built it's uh it's just
gonna get deeper so that's my hope
i would say to continue to grow outward
but to go
deep
oh well i think that's a really good
note
uh to end on uh i just have one
final question for you uh which is
what's the best coffee on campus
ooh
well the res cold brew
or nitro is pretty good but i gotta say
i don't drink that much coffee anymore
um which is too bad for me but i love
tea
and the best tea on campus though the
best tea on campus
i love because it just takes me back
takes me back to being a student because
they've had this
forever whether it was at um brown and
brew or now at the tisch
the tower cafe is the black mango iced
tea
i don't think i've had that i'll have to
try it or or black tea
peach or whatever it is but any either
one of those will do
on like a just getting warm spring day
yeah well that's the perfect timing
because uh by the time these interviews
are out well it's already spring but
it'll still be just getting warm early
spring
awesome lovely well thank you so much
um for your time and
thank you so much for being with us here
in this space
and if anyone wants to contact you
or is looking to
receive pastoral care or just wants to
talk
where can they reach you oh they can
reach me
by my email which is just lynne.cooper
at tusk
lynnn.cooper or my
extension which is 2044.
wonderful well thank you so much awesome
thank you so much connor
great to be with you it's wonderful to
be with you too
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