Is MVCI & Beyond in trouble?
Summary
TLDRThe video discusses the cancellation of a multiplayer mod for 'Modern Warfare Remastered' called 'h2m' due to a cease and desist order from Activision. The mod aimed to enhance the game's features, resembling 'Modern Warfare 2'. The speaker compares this situation to their own modding project for 'Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite', emphasizing the difference in how companies like Activision and Capcom handle mods. They stress the importance of respecting intellectual property rights and the potential impact of mods on a game's monetization, suggesting that their project aims to promote, not detract from, the original game's sales.
Takeaways
- 🎮 A multiplayer mod called h2m was in development for Modern Warfare remastered on PC, aiming to enhance the game's features and graphics to resemble Modern Warfare 2.
- 🚫 The mod developers received a cease and desist order from Activision, preventing the mod's release and distribution.
- 💸 Activision's action might be linked to the mod's potential disruption of their monetization strategies, particularly concerning in-game cosmetics and centralized game hubs.
- 🤔 The speaker expresses understanding of Activision's protective stance over their intellectual property, drawing parallels to Nintendo's past actions.
- 🆚 The speaker contrasts their own modding project for a different game with the h2m situation, emphasizing that their project does not interfere with the current monetization of the base game's publisher.
- 🚫 The speaker acknowledges the legal rights of game publishers like Activision, Capcom, and Marvel to protect their intellectual property, including taking down mods and user-generated content.
- 🛑 The speaker mentions past instances where Nintendo aggressively pursued content creators and modders, highlighting the potential risks involved in modding.
- 💰 The speaker clarifies that their modding project is not intended to generate revenue or alter the game's monetization, aiming instead to promote and support the original game.
- 👍 The speaker expresses a desire to grow the community and player base for the game they are modding, hoping to encourage more people to buy and enjoy the original game.
- 🙏 The speaker hopes that their efforts will be viewed positively by Capcom and Marvel, aiming to enhance the reputation and enjoyment of the game rather than detract from it.
Q & A
What was the purpose of the h2m mod for Modern Warfare remastered on PC?
-The h2m mod aimed to effectively turn Modern Warfare remastered on PC into a Modern Warfare 2 remastered experience by upgrading the weapons, movement, and overall multiplayer experience, providing fans with a visual boost and additional enhancements.
Why did Activision issue a cease and desist order for the h2m mod?
-Activision issued a cease and desist order likely because the mod was seen as an interruptor to their monetization model, which relies on the sale of cosmetics and in-game items. The mod could potentially divert players from engaging with and spending money on Activision's current monetized content.
How does the speaker relate the h2m mod situation to his own project?
-The speaker relates the h2m mod situation to his own project by drawing parallels between the potential impact on the game developers' revenue streams. He acknowledges that while his project is similar in nature, it does not disrupt the cash flow of Capcom or Marvel Games, which he believes is a significant factor in the different treatment of mods by game companies.
What is the speaker's stance on the legality of game mods?
-The speaker acknowledges that game companies like Activision, Capcom, and Marvel Games are within their legal rights to take down mods and content related to their intellectual properties, and that creators of mods and content must be aware of the risks involved.
Why does the speaker believe his project might not face the same issues as the h2m mod?
-The speaker believes his project might not face the same issues because it does not interrupt the cash flow of Capcom or Marvel Games, and instead encourages people to buy and engage with the original games, which aligns with the interests of the game companies.
What are the two general principles the speaker is following with his mod project?
-The two general principles the speaker is following are: not making any characters naked, and not selling the mod or accepting any form of payment for it, ensuring that the project remains non-commercial and respectful of the original game's intellectual property.
What is the speaker's goal with his Marvel vs. Capcom mod project?
-The speaker's goal with his Marvel vs. Capcom mod project is to promote the game, encourage more people to buy and play it, and enhance the community experience by providing a visually improved and potentially more engaging version without disrupting the game's monetization.
Why does the speaker mention Monster Hunter: World's Iceborne mod?
-The speaker mentions Monster Hunter: World's Iceborne mod to illustrate that Capcom has allowed a significant mod to exist without taking it down, suggesting that Capcom may be more open to mods that enhance the community and gameplay experience without directly impacting their revenue.
What historical example does the speaker provide regarding Nintendo's approach to game mods?
-The speaker provides the historical example of Nintendo in the mid-2010s, where they aggressively pursued creators of gameplay videos and mods, particularly targeting the Project M mod for Super Smash Bros., to illustrate how companies can protect their intellectual property aggressively.
What does the speaker suggest is the key difference between his mod project and the h2m mod in terms of company response?
-The speaker suggests that the key difference is that his mod project does not interrupt the cash flow of Capcom or Marvel Games, unlike the h2m mod which was seen as a disruption to Activision's monetization strategies, making it more likely for his project to be tolerated.
Outlines
🎮 'H2M' Mod Shutdown by Activision
The paragraph discusses the cancellation of 'H2M', a multiplayer mod for Modern Warfare remastered on PC, which aimed to replicate the experience of Modern Warfare 2. The mod was highly anticipated as it promised to enhance the visuals and gameplay of the original game. However, Activision issued a cease and desist order to the mod creators, preventing the mod's distribution. The speaker speculates that this action was taken because the mod could potentially disrupt Activision's monetization strategies, such as skin sales and the promotion of newer titles. The speaker also contrasts this situation with their own modding project, emphasizing the difference in how intellectual property is handled by different game companies.
📚 Legal Ramifications of Modding
This paragraph delves into the legal aspects of modding games, particularly focusing on the DMCA and how it can be used by game companies like Activision and Nintendo to protect their intellectual property. The speaker shares personal experiences with Activision's legal team and discusses the challenges faced by modders and content creators. The paragraph also touches on Nintendo's past aggressive stance against modding and streaming of their games, highlighting the potential consequences for those who create and share modded content.
🛠️ Modding for Community and Game Sales
The final paragraph emphasizes the speaker's intentions with their modding project for Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite (MVCI). The goal is to boost the game's community and sales by offering a free, non-monetized mod that enhances the game's appeal. The speaker contrasts this with other mods that have been taken down due to monetization conflicts with game companies. They also mention the Monster Hunter: Iceborne mod as an example of a mod that has coexisted with its publisher, Capcom, without legal issues, suggesting that their mod aims to do the same for MVCI. The speaker acknowledges the legal rights of game companies to protect their intellectual property but expresses hope that their project will be seen as beneficial to the game's community and sales.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Multiplayer Mod
💡Cease and Desist
💡Intellectual Property (IP)
💡Monetization
💡DMCA
💡Modding Community
💡Game Hub
💡Cosmetics
💡Project M
💡Marvel vs. Capcom
💡Capcom
Highlights
An expansive multiplayer mod called h2m was in development for Modern Warfare remastered on PC, aiming to enhance the game similar to Modern Warfare 2.
The mod was about to release but was cease and desisted by Activision, preventing distribution.
Activision's action was seen as a protection of their intellectual property and monetization model, which the mod could potentially disrupt.
The mod required players to own Modern Warfare remastered, still supporting Activision financially, but this was not enough to prevent the cease and desist.
The speaker expresses understanding of Activision's stance due to the potential impact on their revenue streams from in-game purchases.
Comparison is made to Max's project, which also involves modding but for a different game, raising questions about potential legal challenges.
The speaker discusses the history of Nintendo's aggressive IP protection, which has since moderated but remains a cautionary tale for modders.
The speaker emphasizes the importance of respecting IP holders' rights and the potential legal battles that can arise from DMCA claims.
A distinction is made between mods that support the original game's sales and those that detract from the IP holder's monetization efforts.
The speaker shares their goals for their mod project, which is to enhance and promote the Marvel vs. Capcom game without interrupting Capcom's or Marvel's revenue.
The speaker clarifies that their mod will be free, avoiding any direct monetization that could antagonize the IP holders.
A comparison is made to the Monster Hunter Iceborne mod, which has not been taken down and may have even benefited Capcom by selling more copies of the game.
The speaker outlines two principles to avoid angering Capcom: not making characters inappropriate and not monetizing the mod.
The speaker hopes that their mod will promote positive community health and encourage people to buy and enjoy Marvel vs. Capcom games.
The speaker acknowledges the legal rights of Capcom and Marvel to shut down their project if they see fit, but expresses optimism that their intentions are positive for the franchises.
Transcripts
let's
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go for those that don't know what's
going on there is a uh there was a
really expansive multiplayer mod coming
out for Modern Warfare remastered on PC
called h2m effectively turning a modern
warfare remastered on PC Call of Duty
into Modern Warfare 2 remastered weapons
like everything movement the game was
effectively getting turned into from
fans a huge visual boost and a ton of
other stuff uh upgrade kind of the
Modern Warfare 2 multiplayer that we
were looking for instead of like new
Modern Warfare 2 multiplayer which was
in MW3 which was fine but not great so
it looked really exciting like wow we
get the the craziness of MW2 finally
with a good looking package and and all
of this [ __ ] that's really cool so it
was about to come out and had been
teased and people have been testing and
all of this stuff was happening and
right as it was about to come out the
makers of the mods got cease and
desisted from Activision telling them to
pull it and not distribute it at all and
that's weird because it was still
requiring you to buy Modern Warfare
remastered it was still requiring you to
pay Activision money to get a game but
it was the fact that that game was going
to be modified right so I've had a lot
of people want to hit me up because hey
Max is doing the exact same thing
I'm doing the exact same thing for a
different kind of game on the opposite
end of the spectrum uh so I respect that
I mean thank you but here's here's my
understanding of this whole situation
not everything is black and white when
it comes to this stuff not everything is
like this way or that way Activision and
the way it's handled their intellectual
IP because they are so big is very
specific they sort of have like a
similar pamil approach that it comes to
like like Nintendo properties it sort of
worked the same way why am I not
surprised I'm going to tell you granted
not not advertising it all that kind of
stuff I get it I get it but still a lot
of people were pretty excited and
granted you know don't get me wrong I'm
99% sure you can find it in some way on
a mass level distribution probably not
available why am I not surprised and why
when I saw that was I so surprised that
oh wow you're will willing to mod Call
of Duty that's crazy here's what was in
my head and I didn't want to say
anything at the time because these
things were entering my my head that
seems scary to me because modern Call of
Duties if not also Modern Warfare
remastered have worked on a specific
monetization and distribution model that
engaged skin buying that engage the
purchase of cosmetics and all of this
kind of stuff Call of Duty has actively
gone out of their way for the past
fiveish years to try to get you to
engage with a centralized Hub of
information and a centralized Hub like a
Game Hub where all of these skins and
everything are shared between stuff
they're trying to like fortnite it right
so why am I not surprised that h2m was
taken down because this literally is an
interruptor to their money flow there is
a good chance that a ton of people that
would be really really big fans of old
school Modern Warfare people like me
which is why I'm I'm excited about it
would have gone out and been like hey
you know [ __ ] a I want to check that
out in Activision's mind that is
actively taking money away from them
they want you to not engage with their
older Call of Duties as much they want
you to engage with their other stuff
that is recently monetizable and their
skins and everything like that right
they've done stuff like this before as
well so when I heard that it was taken
down it was more like God damn it cuz it
did look really exciting but I'm not
surprised because this was actively an
interruptor to their cash flow and don't
get me wrong like I think you still
needed to buy Modern Warfare which still
gives them money but they want more
money than the asking price of a game
you have to get you have to understand
the point of this stuff is that they
want you to go into to their current
games and buy skins and [ __ ] and then
they want to release a new version of
that game and take away all your skins
so that you have to buy new skins all
over again that is actually how their
[ __ ] works so getting a huge amount of
the player base or at least a chug
10,000 people whatever a few thousand
people away from their current
monetization practices seems like oh
that yep that's what they would do
that's exactly what they would do
granted I absolutely do not know what
the situation is right now but but I
guarantee you you can probably play it
but streaming it making content of it
actively engaging with a community of
some kind and like building that
community and stuff you are going to get
[ __ ] attacked by Activision so I
can't stream it I can't really make any
videos on it the literally come after us
Project M style because that encourages
people to go out and find the files and
download it they nuked it dude and
that's what's [ __ ] is that it'll
it'll be aggressively hard to build
communities and make videos and do that
kind of stuff cuz it is impacting their
intellectual property granted when all
this other stuff happens when mods get
pulled down did it prevent everybody
from playing Project M 10 years ago no
people were still playing it you can
still play it but could you stream it
could you make videos of it no dude
Nintendo was down your [ __ ] throat
couldn't even play it on Twitch without
people literally getting banned off the
site it was like wa that's the kind of
situation we're in right now I have
dealt with Activision legal before I'm
not getting into that [ __ ] again it's
all complete [ __ ] it's absolute ass
because they were still making money I
was about literally go buy Modern
Warfare remastered on PC I was about to
go buy it bringing this back around why
is this relevant to me polish well uh
hey we're doing the exact same [ __ ]
thing to a different game we're quite
literally doing the exact same thing on
the opposite end of the Spectrum in the
gaming sphere so a lot of people as soon
as this was cancelled immediately were
hitting me up and saying oh there goes
Max's project too it's over and I would
say that yes yes on a on an outside
level uh it would be kind of scary that
like our shit's going to get taken down
but as I said uh these projects are not
black and white one gets taken down the
others get taken down y Yad y there's
one big difference we are not
interrupting the cash flow of Capcom or
Marvel games we're not in fact I've been
trying to emphatically tell people you
need to go buy mvci you got to go buy it
you have to go buy the DLC you have to
go buy the base game you need to you
need to purchase the core game of NBCI
if you want to enjoy our mod uh and a
lot of people have you know a lot of
people have there is no discernable
active monetization on Old Marvel versus
Capcom games anymore there really is it
you can either just buy it or not buy it
in my head when we were first talking
about how we would distribute this mod
and how it would work granted the things
I'm saying could suddenly be complete
horseshit and not true and we can get CN
DED at any time however I would also
like to tell you that any videos I make
about any video game anytime I stream
any video game anybody streams any video
game anybody makes content about [ __ ]
anything I'd like to tell you that the
people that own the properties and are
the IP holders of all of that [ __ ] are
complete with completely within their
legal right to take you down anything
you make literally anything you make
which is the problem with dmca which is
why it's old AR archaic [ __ ] from the
'90s that you make anything you just
create a a general game playay they are
completely within their legal right to
take you to court and take your [ __ ]
down you can go back to court and argue
it and argue fair use but you have to
convince a jury that the fair use
actually applies here and not all the
time does that [ __ ] win not all the time
does that eventually go through
ultimately a lot of these companies stay
away from that and I'd like to remind
people that there was a company that did
this [ __ ] to its audience early in the
mid-2010s in the mid-2010s a company was
aggressively going after everyone that
was making gameplay videos or any kind
of gameplay featuring characters from
their properties and they were
absolutely huge yes I'm glad I'm not the
only one that forgot this it was
Nintendo Nintendo you could not make
videos of Nintendo games at the time
Nintendo had an agreement where you
became like a Nintendo partner and you
would share Revenue with them of their
IPs and stuff any kind of videos
anything that featured that stuff that
still can happen mind you that still
could happen but you had to be a partner
and you got a portion of the revenue
that video earned for anybody that
doesn't know that didn't fly super well
it did not go over in in a in a very
good way so they kind of like steered
away from that and and didn't go as hard
at the exact same time they were also
going nuts over Project M trying to take
everything Project M down so whatever
the hell was happening at NOA or
Nintendo Japan around that time frame 10
years ago they were were going super
hard on their intellectual IP properties
protection people were really like oo
we're coming after you type [ __ ] it's
like whoa okay and Nintendo is still
very weary about this stuff all over the
place they're still not like you know
easy to work with in this regard but at
least you can put up videos of Smash BRS
and [ __ ] and modded Smash and be fine
with it again I have to remind people
about something smash mods I have to
remind people that this [ __ ] exists and
like uploaded literally daily over the
past year multiple years the era of
people playing Smash Brothers and having
severely modified Smash Brothers either
on their own Hardware or through
emulation has been a thing that has been
going on for so goddamn long it will
blow your mind 1.1 million views from
the Smash Brothers mod that will destroy
your Wii like this is a thing that has
been going on for a very long time did
Nintendo take all of this [ __ ] down they
didn't this is just existed for the
longest time Nintendo knows this [ __ ]
existed this is something that I have to
remind people of all we're doing with
our relationship with Capcom and Marvel
all I want to do with my relationship to
Marvel versus Capcom with mbci as well
as the people that own the properties in
these games Marvel and Capcom all I want
to do is sell copies of your game that
is the goal I want to build the mvci
community that is so poultry and small I
want to get more people playing their
game buying their game buying the DLC
for their game and get them online
fighting each other that is the whole
point and I also have to remind people
that another mod exists for a Capcom
game that has been around for a very
long time and that mod sely changes the
way the whole game works the way the
entire game Flow exists and is also a
mod that only works online with other
people that have the same mod and is for
capcom's best best selling game of all
time it's Monster Hunter world and it's
called Monster Hunter ice mod it is
still distributed it has never been
taken down it just runs guess why it
just runs because icod might have
actually sold more copies of the game it
might actually be making Capcom money in
the long run so again capcom's gotten a
lot of flack for their mod stuff but
there's two general rules that I I am
following with this project as well as
how I understand Capcom mods to work I'm
not making any characters naked I'm
sorry and I have no plans to sell this
[ __ ] we don't have a patreon I am
funding everything of anyone doing any
work myself and when it's distributed
it's going to be completely free so no
money involved no Chun Ley naked no
Marvel characters naked all those things
are very important because when you
suddenly have naked Capcom characters
and their own IPS showing up oh that
pisses people off in Japan really hard
so anyway those are two general
principles that as I understand are the
stuff that have pissed Capcom off in the
past when modders go out and they're
like hey you got to pay me pay me pay me
pay me you got to do this you got to do
this I have a patreon for Capcom mods
Capcom mods specifically to make naked
characters that's where Capcom goes what
what are you doing you are taking money
from people to change the way our
characters look in our game and mass
Distributing it excuse me that [ __ ] will
will immediately grab the attention of
Capcom Big Wigs across seas and locally
what I'm trying to explain is that these
situations are not the same and I truly
hope that I'm not stepping on the toes
and really pissing people off at Capcom
or Marvel I'm I really hope I would like
to think that they would look at someone
like me and a project like this and this
just benefits positive outlook and good
health for Marvel versus Capcom as a
franchise in the whole that's that's all
I hope my goal is just to get people to
like every facet of MVC I love Marvel
versus Capcom it is my it is my baby
next to Killer Instinct you know so all
I want is for people to love MVC games I
like them I like them to play the old
ones we're getting that Capcom is
literally giving us that Marvel 3 cap
dude Marvel 3 modding scene has existed
for five plus years and they've added
like 50 to 100 characters to the game
dude so if they're going to take our
thing down they would have taken that
down ages ago that would have gone away
ages ago we're adding new Marvel
characters to it and [ __ ] Marvel's not
cool with that but it still exists EXs
all this is doing is promoting good
Community Health all it's doing is
promoting people to go buy copies of
Marvel 3 so again compared to h2m these
are very different situations these
games are not actively monetized in a
modern-day situation I would like to
think that Capcom and Marvel games would
be thrilled they would just be thrilled
that more people are buying their
properties and looking at the stuff that
they made and finding more people find
getting enjoyment out of its gameplay
systems and the cool stuff that's my
whole goal man my whole goal is to make
mvci [ __ ] cool my whole goal is to
remind you guys hey this game was
actually kind of sick it didn't look
great but what if it looks great maybe
you'll actually see that it's kind of
sick and it's already happening okay
it's already happening so all I have to
say at the end of this entire thing is
that Capcom and Marvel games are
completely within their legal right to
take my [ __ ] down and to stop us from
working on this project immediately they
absolutely can they also have the right
to stop me from streaming their games
they also have the right to stop me from
making videos of their games as well as
every other company that distributes
anything they are completely in their
legal right to stop me from making
videos about their stuff and I would
have to go to court to argue that I'd
like to say I think we're going to be
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